what do women mean by "you don't know how to date" ?
I just used to have some friendly conversations with her, nothing emotional or sexual at all then she stopped talking to me all of sudden and after a year this bullet comes
she's without any doubt 8/10 and I have always considered her out of my league there's no way she's throwing herself cz she has no chance in the dating market
You're boring and probably have no personality.
how can I solve this?
female hands typed this
>how can I solve this?
Get a personalty?
Keep in mind that going to the gym is NOT a substitute for a personalty
>going to the gym is NOT a substitute for a personalty
Worked for me.
No, it didn't.
If they think you had no personality before, they still think that now. The only difference is maybe now you look good enough to make up for it.
keep moving that goalpost. Gym only helps people, whereas your advice is pretty much trash
>Gym only helps people
I agree. So when did I tell anyone not to go to the gym?
>whereas your advice is pretty much trash
What advice? I didn't give any you fucking retard.
> Keep in mind that going to the gym is NOT a substitute for a personalty
>... you had no personality... now you look good enough to make up for it.
retardanon...
>female hands types this
Funny you mention that because when I wrote my post I had the feeling I’d get this response. Wanna know how I knew this? Because I am correct of my observation. You regurgitate these same tired mantras. ‘dating market’, ‘x/10’, ‘female hands typed this’, ‘redpilled, blackpilled’, ‘cope’—all buzzwords you picked up from this website. You’re one-dimensional and it shows, whether you care to admit it or not. For the record, I am male. I got a cock and balls.
That is what both men AND women say. And the women you date get disgusted. Not women as a whole—the women YOU attract/are attracted to. You’ve normalised bullshit, put up with bullshit, expect bullshit, and all you seem to see and date is bullshit.
I’ll put it bluntly: People like OP are neurotic. Internalising everything. Extremely stuck in themselves and completely unaware of the unconscious forces at play that keeps them despairing over whores. Great women exist in abundance, but OP couldn’t see it if it was presented to him. He is like a chicken whose beak is stuck on a chalkline that reads “Alpha male, chad, stacy, is it over? blackpill, blackpill, 8/10 dicklet manlet roastie dating market cock carousel bing bing wahoo” and its embarrassing.
I've found women often live up to your expectations of them. Just expect better.
>I've found women often live up to your expectations of them. Just expect better.
What do you do when they don't meet your expectations? I can't think of an example right now, but let's just say you told her you expected something of her, and at some point she failed that. Maybe 2 or 3 times even
Move on. You're a high quality male, you deserve better.
You sound gay as fuck.
>no personality
Define personality.
>herpa derp
I hate when you fags try to play coy with your "define X" crap.
Personality is not some obscure big word. This is not the first time you heard it. You already know what it is.
No seriously: what is it.
I am not OP, nor do I side with him.
I just have lvl 2 ASD so it is very difficult for me to understand these concepts.
Personality:
1. the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual's distinctive character.
2 seconds on google would have answered this question for you anon. Go ahead, punch it in and see for yourself.
Google it.
>Personality describes the unique patterns of thoughts, feelings, and behaviors that distinguish a person from others. A product of both biology and environment, it remains fairly consistent throughout life.
How can you acquire one if you actually cant?
Also, "unique patterns": if its unique you cannot acquire them. Their uniqueness makes them unlearnable. Unless you argue for a stereotype: you may try to behave as such, but it would feel and be fake. Except rare exceptions, every tranny is a hon no matter what they try to do with their... "personality".
What "personality" means is, maybe, a likeable personality. But in such case... a likeable personality is a likeable stereotype. A likeable stereotype is likeable, but also forgetable: it is "boring" (as
said, when he talked about OP). If you dont believe me, read some Vygotsky or just https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_proximal_development.
If the stereotype is likeable, it is defined, therefore not unique. Uniqueness, of course, is not repeatable, because it would be a stereotype. If it is defined and not unique, means it was already present in the person's mind, and the process of learning about a person becomes a process of consulting basically just a mnemonic device (i.e. the stereotype).
In other words, this is not the personality that these anons were refering to.
Maybe it is "introduce less common elements into your personality".
But in this case, what elements are more interesting because of their rarity? Going to the gym, and more broadly, isnt a rare yet intriguing element of personality? Yet some may disagree. The rarity must stem from CHAOS, not from achievements (hence going to the gym isnt a "personality", for it's inherent repetitive nature). But in this case, is it a personality anymore?
1/2
Holy autism.
>and more broadly,
>and more broadly, the achievement of goals
2/2
Chaos may be the answer, but wouldnt that make you a "jack of all trades, master of none", a "personality" which is that of a person who is interesting, yes, but not lovable: who am I loving, if not an ever changing reality? Even Nature is an ever changing... repetition. Is that what "personality" means? In that case you dont acquire it, you build it.
"distinctive personality" then. A distinctive stereotype, that is. Rare, yet attractive. A phenomenal cocktail of common places and novelty. Vygotsky is and will always be the Mozart of psychology.
I think I came to the same conclusion of yours. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic!
>In that case you dont acquire it, you build it.
No one told you to "acquire a personality" though. A personality is generally built up, as you said, through a person's combined experiences and how they react to them and let them mold him as a person.
So, when we say "get a personality", that is merely an extremely flippant and reductive (but ultimately, no less accurate) way of telling someone that they have no experiences, that they have no convictions or strong reactions, and they probably need to start really living their life to even have any idea of who they really are. Let alone to be able to show that to anyone else.
Yeye, I got it. I am an ESL, so I understood it as "pick".
I am not op, I am this
.
Now I'll stop post in this thread because I derailed it too much. Thanks for the replies.
It's fine anon. Your "derailment" actually made the thread interesting.
What experiences? Everything is a fucking "experience" or way or another.
NTA but to me, personality would mean the sum of the following:
>how you respond to unexpected situations and stressors
>your sense of humor
>introversion/extroversion and how you handle relationships
>your values
>your dreams and goals
Basically, the parts of your identity that affect what decisions you make and how you act around other people. And when people say you have "no personality," they usually mean that you don't express any of those traits clearly. So, they couldn't tell based on your behavior what values you have, what sense of humor you have, how you feel about other people, etc. You just act pretty flat and boring. Or you talk about concrete/niche facts without saying what's important to you on an emotional or values-based level.
I need to know what it is to even try to fix it. Come on, it's advice board
Well, now you know. And if my answer was too clipped for you,
gave a very detailed breakdown (that I couldn't be bothered to do).
So, no more excuses going forward, ok? You have the info, time to put it in practice.
You have the temperament of a woman. Stop using twitter
jfc will you shut the fuck up with the bitchy attitude, that is not a personality.
Great way to avoid revealing you dont know any of the shit you spout, fag.
>Great way to avoid revealing you dont know any of the shit you spout, fag.
That's what I'm talking about. Sick of people always pulling that fucking shit. The time it takes them to write their cunty response could have just as easily been spent explaining whatever term it was
Ohh no, they can't do that shit though. Fucking half (or more) of the people on this site are convinced something is wrong with them, or they're autistic, retarded, lack social skills, a failure, incompetent, etc.. and I wouldn't be surprised if a big part of that is these fucking homosexuals who would rather do this subtle bullying/demeaning cocksucking bullshit instead of just admit THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EITHER!
There's a special place in hell for fucking cocksuckers that'll do that to people. Ball-less, soulless, spiritless, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them
?t=9
>Sick of people always pulling that fucking shit.
>Asks question
>You turn into a defensive little shit
>Won't even bother to demonstrate you actually know you're talking about
Gee I wonder Why people think you're full of shit.....
If you're the guy I was responding to, then I'm pretty sure I was on your side there lol
>I hate when you fags try to play coy with your "define X" crap.
>Personality is not some obscure big word. This is not the first time you heard it. You already know what it is.
THIS guy is the cocksucker, and those like him
My bad though, I shoulda made that more clear
>I literally posted the definition of personality (not that I needed to) right after that. Seethe harder homosexuals.
Fair enough, you're alright too then but the point stands for the other cocksuckers who do that shit!
>If you're the guy I was responding to, then I'm pretty sure I was on your side there lol
I'm not him but I realized my fuck up lol. I thought you were going on some tirade acting like anyone that doesn't have your innate knowledge on what a personality is was an idiot or something
>I thought you were going on some tirade acting like anyone that doesn't have your innate knowledge on what a personality is was an idiot or something
Naw, I don't know what people mean with half the words they fucking use nowadays. I'm still confused as fuck what people are talking about when they say dominant and submissive when they're talking about relationships/gfs and bfs. That shit only applied to sex back in my day, now apparently a girl is dominant if she texts you back first or whatever. Wild
Oh and she's clearly masculine because of that too, whatever masculine means
>Naw, I don't know what people mean with half the words they fucking use nowadays
Skill issue.
>I'm still confused as fuck what people are talking about when they say dominant and submissive when they're talking about relationships/gfs and bfs
Easy, dominant means whoever takes the lead in the relationship and the submissive one just goes along with whatever the dominant one wants.
Those are the actual definitions of the words in a social/relationship context, the sex stuff came later and based the usage of the words on what we already see.
>Easy, dominant means whoever takes the lead in the relationship and the submissive one just goes along with whatever the dominant one wants.
See, even ~10 years ago those words didn't refer to any sort of "social/relationship context." Dominant and submissive was talking about sex
?t=89
That kinda stuff
>the sex stuff came later and based the usage of the words on what we already see.
Riiiiight well I dunno when that was but in my lifetime (almost 30 years), people didn't use dominant/submissive when talking about relationships and shit until like.. yesterday lol
What the hell does it mean to take the lead in a relationship, btw? I ask that one all the time and never get a decent answer
nta, but dominant/submissive has been used to describe relationships outside of sex for longer than you think. I'm older than you and it's been around at least as long as I have.
>nta, but dominant/submissive has been used to describe relationships outside of sex for longer than you think. I'm older than you and it's been around at least as long as I have.
I really think it would have been like.. frowned upon to talk about relationships in terms of dominant and submissive for the last, I dunno, 30 years at least? I've never heard anyone talk like that IRL, never seen it in movies or shows, it's pretty much just on the internet and recently
And I think it's right to frown upon that shit too. There is no dominant and submissive in a relationship, that is fucking ridiculous. Who would want to be in deal like that? Since when is that shit alright?
It's not a thing people really talked about in everyday life using those terms. You're right about that.
The concept of there being dominants and submissives in relationships is definitely not a new one though. It's a feature of just about any field of study that touches on social dynamics.
>There is no dominant and submissive in a relationship
There is a dominant and a submissive in every relationship and always has been.
>There is a dominant and a submissive in every relationship and always has been.
Okay so who is the dominant and who is the submissive out of your parents?
Neither of my parents are submissive or dominant
>>i don't know honey, where would YOU like to go eat?
>>i don't care, we can go wherever you want!
>Not taking the lead, submissive.
That's not submissiveness, that's indifference lol
How can something so completely insignificant somehow determine who is submissive and who is dominant? Does this stuff actually enter people's minds in these situations? Like does he think "I am the submissive in this relationship, so I'm going to tell her that we can go wherever she wants!"
>That's not submissiveness, that's indifference lol
Dominance and submissiveness is about power. In that anon's example one person is giving the power of choice to the other person.
It might be more accurate to say that there's a dominant and a submissive in every situation, rather than every relationship. The balance usually isn't static.
I feel like you're thinking about it like one person has to be ordering the other around and the other has to let them for their relationship to be described that way, but that's not the case.
>Dominance and submissiveness is about power
Great.. Yeah, I don't do that power shit, and I would never stay in a relationship with someone who thinks in terms of "power"
>In that anon's example one person is giving the power of choice to the other person.
They don't have to give it to them, they just have the power to choose
>The balance usually isn't static.
If it's not static then how do you say who is the dominant one and who is the submissive one? People say that shit all the time, right? Usually the man is dominant, woman is submissive, blahblahblah
>I feel like you're thinking about it like one person has to be ordering the other around and the other has to let them for their relationship to be described that way, but that's not the case.
So what's the case?
?t=89
So you learn the meanings of words from sex comedies?
>Riiiiight well I dunno when that was but in my lifetime (almost 30 years),
I don't know where you spent your lifetime, because I'm 42 and it started long before yesterday. Seriously, look up the actual definition of the words. I already posted the definition of personality, like I said. It's all out there, literally a google search away.
>What the hell does it mean to take the lead in a relationship, btw? I ask that one all the time and never get a decent answer
Simple. Here's an easy example:
>ok, we're going to restaurant xyz that just opened this friday night
Taking the lead, dominant.
>i don't know honey, where would YOU like to go eat?
>i don't care, we can go wherever you want!
Not taking the lead, submissive.
I literally posted the definition of personality (not that I needed to) right after that. Seethe harder homosexuals.
As if women do.
>the dating market
She’s right. You have no idea how to date. Dating requires being emotionally with it, letting down your guard, being open, and feeling it rather than thinking it.
You’re pathologising it. Whittling it down to abstracts and particulars. It’s why you regurgitate that bullshit concept of a ‘dating market’, and, ultimately, why you suck at dating.
That's what women always say but they always get disgusted by male being in vulnerable state or showing his true emotions.
So many males adapting "strong silent type" stereotype, so many relating to Gosling character etc, this is all no accident. Females like if you are chad + mysterious
being in the moment and feeling it in an early dating stage is not the same as being vulnerable or showing weakness by bursting out crying. What he means, and he's right, as that you need to get out there with the mindset of enjoying the time you spend with these women, regardless of the ultimate goal.
>Whittling it down to abstracts and particulars.
I think you don't know what particulars mean...
Yeah she's just a dumb woman trying to use big words, what did you expect?
> requires being emotionally with it, letting down your guard, being open, and feeling it rather than thinking it.
You do this and roasties ghost you for "being too attached too early" which is amn "ick" or whatever subhuman terms women come up with nowadays
Letting your guard down around females is always a bad plan.
>nothing emotional or sexual at all
Well there you go, answered your own question OP.
This. You weren’t dating. You were chitchatting. You gotta flirt, throw in some slightly sexual remarks that can be taken multiple ways, take small digs at her in a lighthearted manner, and then occasionally get her attention, gently touch her hand, look her in the eyes and tell her emotional bullshit like how you enjoy spending time with her
Sounds like she thought you were dating and you didn’t pick up on it
>I just used to have some friendly conversations with her, nothing emotional or sexual at all
You're there to fuck her, remember?
OP why care about this?
>Never do anything dating related with girl
>Suddenly sends text OP cant date
Maybe she did want you to make a move on her or something?? Anyhow this seems stupid
help
She wants that hatefuck
She's very immature, blaming you for not being psychic or her best possible match who intuitively understands and caters to her needs and whims.
i'm sure theres a psychology term for her but shes nothing but a massive pain in the ass as far as dating goes. she will always blame you first, for anything. she shows very little internal insight.
Literally. First switch your time stop being so defensive than you blaming her for dumb shot or asking her questions. Hate ducking her will work in this situation
Apple doesn't want you cussing. Be better.
Translation: during this time she's had a fling with some guy who dumped her and now she's taking it out on you for not saving her from her (self chosen) fate. She's not an 8/10 by any metric, I'm convinced that she's the definition of average in looks too, but you're too desperate.
Out of the same desperation, you will ignore what I've said and go for it anyway. You will most likely regret it in the long run.
>She's not an 8/10 by any metric, I'm convinced that she's the definition of average in looks too, but you're too desperate.
Yeah. This feels like the case most times.
She isn't worth your time if she just stopped responding to you dude, zero respect for you.
Dating is skill developed through knowledge and experience. You do not possess this skill or any awareness of your aptitude at this skill.
Regarding this
First, don't be defensive.
Two, don't argue. You're not winning a debate for points, you're trying to connect to another human being.
Third and a huge core of it: Fucking listen.
>why didn't you ask?
You responded by admitting that it was ego, which might be good (but was weirdly in caps which strikes me as argumentative)
But then you immediately tell her what you assume she probably would have done. Instead of, you know, ASKING!
She literally JUST told you that you need to ask more and instead you're dismissively telling her about herself.
You really need to study and lear to Active Listening. Which is a real thing and more involved than just "paying attention". Asking questions is a big part of it.
By never asking you demonstrated a lack of caring or concern.
To be fair, it does take two people to stay out of contact. She could have reached out earlier too. But she reached out now and I'm willing to bet you're one that needs to learn more.
>MKG
Machine kun gelly?
That's what they call me
>help
Here she "really hates you now" because you actually had a decent answer to why you didn't ask. I mean a believable answer, and one she has to accept, even though I'm shaking my head in disappointment at you for being a little bitch and not just asking her what was up, OP. What a pussy..
Anyway, she has to accept that answer because you were honest and reasonable, therefore she really hates you now
>Why did she wait a whole year to tell him this?
Oh I just saw that part. Yeah that's weird but she prolly had a bf or something and now they broke up. Or she moved out of town and now she's back, or she saw something that reminded her of him or had a fucking dream about him, goofy woman shit
Or maybe I'm completely off the mark and she means something different like if OP has had 20 failed relationships in the last year and she noticed this on his social media? Put I think it's pretty much what I said the first time lol
>Oh I just saw that part. Yeah that's weird but she prolly had a bf or something and now they broke up. Or she moved out of town and now she's back, or she saw something that reminded her of him or had a fucking dream about him, goofy woman shit
>Put I think it's pretty much what I said the first time lol
So she got mad that he stopped talking to her after she stopped talking to him but she actually liked him but she had a boyfriend? Doesn't make sense.
>So she got mad that he stopped talking to her
Well yeah because he was supposed to text her and ask why she wasn't talking to him lol. I'm not saying she makes any sense, but that's what it seems like she wanted, right?
>I'm pretty sure your understanding of women is lacking. How long was your longest adult relationship?
~3 years
>Well yeah because he was supposed to text her and ask why she wasn't talking to him lol. I'm not saying she makes any sense, but that's what it seems like she wanted, right?
Why did she want to talk to him when she had a boyfriend? She came off as aggressive and attacked OP for essentially "not having sex." She attacked his character as well.
>Why did she want to talk to him when she had a boyfriend?
No no no, this happened at some point after she stopped talking to him. She was sitting around waiting for OP to text her asking why she wasn't talking to him anymore, and then some guy came along and kept her busy for a year, then they broke up, then she remembered "oh yeah, OP!"
>She came off as aggressive and attacked OP for essentially "not having sex."
I dunno about aggressive but yeah, bitches be like that pretty often lol. I don't think you're meant to take it seriously. Like, she says she really hates him, but she doesn't really hate him, you know?
>She attacked his character as well.
She did? Where?
I'm pretty sure your understanding of women is lacking. How long was your longest adult relationship?
Dude fucking WOMEN
Man I'd drop her like a bad habit.
>Stops talking to you
>Why didn't you say something!!!
You’re both fucking retarded
>I’m sorry I’m such a cowardly little bitch
>Reeee why didn’t you chase after me when I gave you the silent treatment?!
>i hate you too, come over
The only actual good reply in the thread.
I'd say teach me your ways senpai but I don't like approaching women, but I can tell this is a great reply. Does it come naturally to you or have you had to put effort into it?
Tell her to fuck off and come back when she is in a better mood.
She’s going through something and she’s taking out her anger on you. Tell her to fuck off and stop responding. It’s going to piss her off even more, but at least she’ll know you’re not a pussy retard that she can speak to however she wants.
It means shes unhappy with you. It carries little more meaning than that; women arent overly philosophical.
Not OP but what's her fucking problem? OP didn't do anything to her, does she just feel like shitting on him because some chad pumped and dumped her?
>le personality meme
OP you did nothing wrong here.
Women :coffee:
>I'm sorry
Lmao for what?
>Women :coffee:
I don't get it.
>She was sitting around waiting for OP to text her asking why she wasn't talking to him anymore, and then some guy came along and kept her busy for a year, then they broke up, then she remembered "oh yeah, OP!"
So if she got another boyfriend and he dumped her, why is she mad at OP all of a sudden? Why doesn't she go for other people?
>I dunno about aggressive but yeah, bitches be like that pretty often lol. I don't think you're meant to take it seriously. Like, she says she really hates him, but she doesn't really hate him, you know?
So why did she say she hates him?
>She did? Where?
She said he doesnt know how to date and judging by the texts she probably made some othet comments about how much of a loser he is.
>why is she mad at OP all of a sudden?
She's not mad at him, she is pretend mad at him lol
>So why did she say she hates him?
Because his answer made sense!
>She said he doesnt know how to date
Ohh that's not attacking his character, it's just saying
>"grrr, why didn't he just fucking kiss me?!?! He's so stupid! He totally doesn't know how to date! We could have gotten together instead of me wasting a year with that douchebag I got with!"
There's a whole fucking lot of guessing/speculating going on here, by the way, so at this point I'm totally not saying I'm right or anything. If OP told us the whole story and gave us all the texts he's gotten since he made the post, that'd be nice
>and judging by the texts she probably made some othet comments about how much of a loser he is.
Oh, what? What makes you say that?
>She's not mad at him, she is pretend mad at him lol
>Because his answer made sense!
>"grrr, why didn't he just fucking kiss me?!?! He's so stupid! He totally doesn't know how to date! We could have gotten together instead of me wasting a year with that douchebag I got with!"
Is she actually mad at him or not? Why does she write these things then? So what does she want him to do now?
>Oh, what? What makes you say that?
Just her general attitude. OP made a joke in the first post and she's like "that's totally not funny you incel."
>Is she actually mad at him or not?
Sort of a complicated question, strangely.. Simple answer would be no, she's not actually mad at him, not in my book at least
Like if someone gets you the wrong flavor of slushie from Sonic even though you didn't even tell them which flavor to get, but you "get mad at them" for getting the wrong one anyway? Do you consider that actually mad? I don't lol
I'm sure there's way better examples but that's the best my lazy ass could come up with
>Why does she write these things then?
Hmm, I think OP is supposed to respond by asking "why?" basically. He's living out a whole 30-40 mins of conversation in there, the bastard, but I bet after she said "not funny at all," he said "alright, why did you say I don't know how to date?"
And they talked for a while, and then she asked "why did you stop talking to me?!" and that's where the second screenshot begins, with "I just thought you wanted some space.."
But you mean why's she act mad when she's not really mad? Goofy bitch basically, but it's not that out of the ordinary
Is English your first language or no? Just curious lol
>So what does she want him to do now?
Magically make things go back to how they were before she ghosted him, probably. She prolly doesn't even know what she really wants, she's just bored and lonely and "wanted to reach out" (I hate when people say that)
>Like if someone gets you the wrong flavor of slushie from Sonic even though you didn't even tell them which flavor to get, but you "get mad at them" for getting the wrong one anyway? Do you consider that actually mad? I don't lol
She's annoyed then instead of mad?
>Hmm, I think OP is supposed to respond by asking "why?" basically. He's living out a whole 30-40 mins of conversation in there, the bastard, but I bet after she said "not funny at all," he said "alright, why did you say I don't know how to date?"
>And they talked for a while, and then she asked "why did you stop talking to me?!" and that's where the second screenshot begins, with "I just thought you wanted some space.."
She wanted a valid reason to be annoyed at him and he didn't give it to her so now she's even more annoyed at him and herself probably?
>But you mean why's she act mad when she's not really mad? Goofy bitch basically, but it's not that out of the ordinary
Because when I'm mad I don't pretend not to be mad and vice versa. It seems deceptive.
>Is English your first language or no? Just curious lol
Yes it is.
>Magically make things go back to how they were before she ghosted him, probably. She prolly doesn't even know what she really wants, she's just bored and lonely and "wanted to reach out" (I hate when people say that)
Should OP just ignore her then instead of wasting his time?
>She's annoyed then instead of mad?
I guess but she has no more right being mad than you would have a right being annoyed at the guy getting you the wrong flavor, you know? Same idea with both, they're not fucking mind readers
Though annoyed with herself? Maybe it could be that, yeah
>She wanted a valid reason to be annoyed at him and he didn't give it to her so now she's even more annoyed at him and herself probably?
>and herself probably?
Now you're gettin it lol
Yeah see she prolly assumed that he wasn't talking to her because he didn't really care about her or some shit, therefore she never bothered texting him, because "if he really cared, he would text me first!" And then when he gave her a fairly legitimate answer, she realized.. oh fuck, that was really stupid of me. Granted OP basically did the same fucking thing, the retard
>Because when I'm mad I don't pretend not to be mad and vice versa. It seems deceptive.
Right, when I'm mad is probably when I am the most straightforward and clear with what I say to someone
>Should OP just ignore her then instead of wasting his time?
Lots of people act this way, guys and girls. This looks bad because it's just two screenshots, it prolly makes more sense if you could read everything they've said to each other
Should he ignore her.. I dunno, like if I was in his position, I think I'd already be over there fucking that girl lol. That is, unless she is a total bitch or something, but even then, might still have to fuck her
Like, the second I saw her name pop up on my texts, my first thought would be: "oohh, she must want some dick!"
Thanks for your analyses. I hope OP posts more stuff so we can get a clearer picture of what's going on.
no that's dumb, we've seen enough, op only wins by not engaging further
>op only wins by not engaging further
Yeah I agree
Oh yeah, she's mad/frustrated because you didn't/haven't done something that she wanted you to do. This is mostly frustrating because she can't tell you what she wants you to do because she's a retarded woman, so she's just stuck in this state, getting all sorts of stupid like "grrr, why won't he just fucking kiss me?!?! He's so stupid! He totally doesn't know how to date!"
Why did she wait a whole year to tell him this?
>I just used to have some friendly conversations with her, nothing emotional or sexual at all
if you never flirt or show her any passion you're basically just a friend. if she really liked you she'd probably get upset and wonder why you aren't into her even though she's giving you all these hints
its really nothing to do with "having a personality" or whatever other rubbish people are talking about here. you can be charming and interesting and funny all you want but if theres no sexual undercurrent its all for nought
>huh, Stacy or Anne haven't mentioned that.
OP update pls
I pretended to be the one that made the wrong decision for a couple of hours to calm her down, we are magically doing well now, however I don't know what to do later
>wanna go eat something outside? or you can come here too if you want me to cook something
probably would have been better
Jesus christ just do this
>Fruits? I was hoping you'd be hungry for THIS DICK
I'd probably actually say that too, but definitely not saying that's a good move lol
>as that you need to get out there with the mindset of enjoying the time you spend with these women, regardless of the ultimate goal.
That's true, but like.. my #1 most enjoyable way to spend time is by fucking, so I get a little bit confused if we're not fucking, you know?
>Fruits? I was hoping you'd be hungry for THIS DICK
That could work as long as you know the other person will take it with humor (and it depends a lot on the degree of trust as well).
It's best to drop subtle hints and see how she reacts. If you don't get the expected reaction, just keep the conversation going as if it was a joke
>That could work as long as you know the other person will take it with humor (and it depends a lot on the degree of trust as well).
Shit I don't care if it "works," I wasn't trying to make anything work anyway. I'd almost rather her not take it with humor, the shocked reaction amuses me more. Just shrug your shoulders and say "hey, it's the truth, Iunno" and carry on
>It's best to drop subtle hints and see how she reacts. If you don't get the expected reaction, just keep the conversation going as if it was a joke
Mehh subtle hints, guess they can be okay but if I didn't get the response I was hoping for, I'd be like "that meant that I wanted to fuck you, if you didn't catch that, by the way.."
In my experience, the ideal is to escalate the conversation a little at a time if you really want to get sure results. That girl is replying quickly, so there's no need to act so desperate
>so there's no need to act so desperate
Is my way acting desperate? Cause I see it the other way around. I don't care about "results," your way you do care about the results, meaning you're desperate, right? lol
Me, I almost want the bitch to be appalled at what I say, that way maybe she'll stop fucking talking to me for a while, especially if she is the type of girl to get appalled by that. Like, I don't even fuckin.. want to deal with that?
I hate when they pretend they don't wanna fuck, and then if you hint at in, they still give you no clue, then if you're like me and you just straight up ask them they'll maybe give some goofy answer like "I'm looking for something more than just sex." Okay bitch, that's cool and all, but did you wanna fuck or not?
Jesus christ, why can't they just say it? I wanna know if I should shave my nuts or not before I come over, shit
You're a sperg, you don't ask someone "do you wanna fugg" and a woman won't tell you "let's fugg."
If you're so certain she wants it, you get her alone and make a move, simple as. You act like you need her to say "anon make a move in horny." That's not how it works, women love being swept up in the moment, talking it out like you suggest makes women very dry, no wonder you don't get laid.
>You're a sperg, you don't ask someone "do you wanna fugg" and a woman won't tell you "let's fugg."
Actually works out way better than you'd expect
>If you're so certain she wants it, you get her alone and make a move, simple as
Yeah, well I'm not so certain, that's the point. Or, I may be pretty certain that she WANTS the dick, but I'm not certain that she is going to be down to fuck, you know what I mean? Could be a hundred different reasons for that, I'd just kinda like to know if I should shave my sack or not
>You act like you need her to say "anon make a move in horny."
Why not? Also why can't she make the move, she's the damn horny one, shit
>That's not how it works, women love being swept up in the moment
Well, look, there ain't gonna be a moment with me if she don't answer whether or not we gonna fuck, I dunno what else to tell the bitch
> talking it out like you suggest makes women very dry,
Lol you think talking about sex with a woman makes her "dry?" You don't think talking about sex makes a person horny? Builds the anticipation? It actually relieves some of the stress and uncertainty and replaces it with fucking excitement and.. fuckin whatever good stuff I don't know, I just know it's better that way, trust me
Like, forget what the bitch wants for a second, what would you prefer? Would you like to know beforehand if you're gonna fuck or not? Or would you rather play the games and be "swept up in the moment?"
actually explicitly talking about fucking only works with really damaged nut case women, even using clear euphamism jokes is better then literally explicitly asking or telling her to have sex with you.
women like to be gatekeepers of sex, they want to feel like they are the final say in whether or not it happens. if you joke around, theres that plausible deniability that gives them the option to say no now, but maybe yes later.
but if you are like "will you have sex with me yes or no", if they say yes it feels like they are being coerced, and if they say no then it is really ackward to say yes at a later point and makes them seem like a frigid bitch.
the only times where it maybe kind of works to give them an ultimatum is if you've given them a few dates and you seem amazing from being rich and having your shit together and then you comminicate somewhat indirectly, and charismatically, and without seeming sad, actually seeming happy, that in order to make this worthwhile, how much time and attention your giving, your gonna need something back.
even then, its really easy to fuck off and come across like not a man while doing this and it still makes a chick feel ackward and it still puts them on the spot and if it does work it can more likely work on ratchet bitches.
ultimately women actually do want to have sex, so if its really hard to make them want to have sex with you even if your doing everything right, they are just not interested in you and just like the attention you give them.
>actually explicitly talking about fucking only works with really damaged nut case women, even using clear euphamism jokes is better then literally explicitly asking or telling her to have sex with you.
Actually it's the other way around, for sure. In fact, this is a good way of telling if a bitch is sane and worth keeping or if she's batshit crazy and going to be nothing but trouble
Crazy bitches = can't/won't talk about sex. Sane bitches = can talk about sex just fine. And if they lose their fucking shit because you dared to mention sex to them, how could you? They're completely out of their god damn mind
>a friend of mine has a place with a pool, he goes to bars and he'll find a chick who has just been dancing like crazy with gay guys all night
This is like a totally different fucking world to me, and probably most people? Especially here? I'm thinking more like.. normal life kinda shit? lol
>She says "i don't have a swim suit" and he says "bra and panties is fine"
See, I would say "no fucking shit, Sherlock, why would you have a god damn swimsuit? We were just at a bar"
Or instead of that maybe just "I know," and then you go get in the pool (naked obviously). Smooth as ice
>you need a place, and/or a car, thats nice and presentable, that she can feel comfortable in
Comfortable huh? How bout her place then? Which is even better cause then I don't have to figure out how to get the bitch to leave my place later, I can just leave her place whenever I'm ready. Also I can rob her refrigerator before I leave
>the chick wants to fuck the dude, but she's considering all the different ways it might make her look bad, like a slut, and he's giving her an out
I won't do it. If I detect that shit going on, I will straight up refuse to fuck her unless she gets over this shit and admits she wants it. Trust me, this shit didn't come from nowhere, it came from too much experience with that shit right there
damn bro you're literally spending all day on LULZ because of this chick get a job lol maybe then you'd have something to offer women lmao
>damn bro you're literally spending all day on LULZ because of this chick get a job lol maybe then you'd have something to offer women lmao
Don't be mean 🙁
If a woman wants to fuck, they will fuck. Horniness trumps all this mind game bullshit they think they are so clever with.
absolutely correct
you have to put them in scenarios where having sex would be quite easy to really see if they want to have sex or not.
a friend of mine has a place with a pool, he goes to bars and he'll find a chick who has just been dancing like crazy with gay guys all night, she's revved up and really horny but the guy she's with isn't available to him, then my friend has a drink with them, then she lets them know that he has a pool at his place.
She says "i don't have a swim suit" and he says "bra and panties is fine"
so then she's at his place, alone, in a safe environment, in a bra and panties, in a pool. the rest is pretty much on auto pilot.
you need a place, and/or a car, thats nice and presentable, that she can feel comfortable in, and you create a pretext for her to come over that doesn't seem like its explicitly about sex.
consider the song "baby its cold out side". its not actually rapey, the chick wants to fuck the dude, but she's considering all the different ways it might make her look bad, like a slut, and he's giving her an out, an explanation for all those things "baby its cold out side", she should stay not to fuck hahaha what thats crazy, she just shouldn't go out becuase its unsafe cuz of the blizzard.
and then they fuck which she wants to do.
your a push over and you give her a constant and reliable stream of attention, this makes her feel mildly good, but isn't enough for her to consider you boyfriend material and give you pussy. you are acting like a "bestie/brother/bitch/simp"
the number one thing that girls care about is how you make them feel, people in general really.
people will respect you if you have boundries and self worth.
you ironically, paradoxically, have to have the courage to be disliked, you have to have walking away power, there has to be certain behaviour that you won't do becuase its degrading.
if you can not do self depricating things when she tries to get you to, she will then shit test you where she will not talk to you for a little while, but then she will cave and try being nice to youa gain,.
you have to ignore behaviour you don't like, or if you MUST address it, be boring when you address it. and then you have to be passionate about behaviour that you do like, but not in a way where it comes across like you are weak or unmanly.
then this will make you basically her dopamine dealer and she'll be fucking addicted to you.
also if you try to get her to be sexual for you, beat around the bush, you can tease about it, you can imply it, you can coax it, but never be explicit in what your suggesting her to do, let the tension build and build and build and build. she will be like "what are you talking about...:)?" and still never ever cave and be like "you should suck my dick", keep on increasing the tension and creating more and more scenarios where she can do something sexual until she initiates. thats how its done, its instantly a turn off when you put a girl in a situation where they have to say yes or no. women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are the gatekeepers to marriage.
everything i said is correct becuase you didn't talk to her for a while and then out of the blue she initiated talking to you but she tried to save face by starting out being "mad"
this roughly translates to
>"I am a poor communicator and expect you to carry the weight when it comes to making this relationship work but will act as if that is not the case because social expectation would have us appear otherwise to be normal"
OP, question: how old are you?
>after a year
Women are retarded ignore anything they say more than 3 days after you break up
update
>update
Pssshhhhhftttt oh man OP, even I'm struggling not to give you shit for this one, if this is actually you
RIP, my nigga, RIP
both of you have autism
I kinda like this shit. If she's into you then it'll be some significant moment for her. If she's not into you then she's not into you anyway.
So did you call her?
Noice.
Strong follow up into actually talking. I like it. Good work, OP.
And I always appreciate an update.
So this woman just texted you out of the blue after a year? She probably got dumped and is trawling through old numbers looking for sex. Guys do the same thing.
Incompatible. Nothing new OP, find someone smarter who can take care of themselves, logic should work out on that.
Just tell her to fuck off. "Personality" is irrelevant, if she thinks you are hot she'l call you funny no matter how bad and autistic you are.
Its clear she isnt into you. Tell her that she wouldnt be single if she was any better, and that passive aggressive snarky commentary isnt a original or unique personality.