What causes there to be this certain demographic of cis (het?) white men (usually fat with beards and glasses for some reason) to be viscerally obsessed with trans people in a usually fetishistic way and for him to excessively try to label himself as an "ally" despite constantly talking over trans people?
tldr why are there a group of cis men who are obsessed with associating themselves with trans people but do it more for looking good rather than actually being good
Bincels trying to get laid
Simple as
>for him to excessively try to label himself as an "ally" despite constantly talking over trans people?
Lol what? No, he doesn't.
maybe, but the most rich and famous ones...
i would absolutely trust contra more than him, i think shes got a good record of actually nuanced and honest responses to issues rather than just going with whatever "looks the best"
She's just being stupid, he just made an edgy joke and she literally exposed him in her video.
they are both being shitty tbh
1. vaush is correct in saying that quality of argument should be prioritised over who speaks (however i doubt hes correct about a thing given his track record)
2. contra just used her womyn card that like “hurr durr because men are often incorrect when doing X that means vaush is also incorrect”
they are both shitlords and if you are not a radical you shouldnt listen to any of them
also they love blaming capitalism when capitalism is not to blame, that should be a major red flag
>Also they love blaming capitalism when capitalism is not to blame
If it weren't for capitalism people like you wouldn't exist in the first place.
> If it weren't for capitalism people like you wouldn't exist in the first place.
i know bro
>I know bro
I'm not even kidding consumerist retards like yourself couldn't hack it in any other system but capitalism. Capitalism is the reason why a spic like you is even allowed to work, yet alone live in Australia in the first place.
>1. vaush is correct in saying that quality of argument should be prioritised over who speaks (however i doubt hes correct about a thing given his track record)
>2. contra just used her womyn card that like “hurr durr because men are often incorrect when doing X that means vaush is also incorrect”
except natalie has the objectively higher quality argument. vaush is speaking in a shitty way to jk rowling and thus making trannies look worse, nat is just being pragmatic and considering the broader issue
blah blah blah eceleb retardation who actually likes any of them theyre all extremely retarded
blah blah lack of reading comprehension
sneed
Also, Vaush being misogynistic to JK rowling and not connecting the dots on why Contra would be mad at him kind of literally proves he doesn't see her as a woman
this is an absolute W post from nat, and i don't see how anyone could interpret otherwise. she's literally right, why are men talking over women about what misogyny is or isn't?
Because some women get too emotional because of their personal investment and can't rationally engage with the topic.
Based Natalie
ps. cis opinions should be instafiltered
This looks like a W alone but the vowshster really was in the right in that whole debacle
rare natalie w, vaush needs to go fuck himself with this reddit tier ‘logically sound argument’ bullshit already. he always reminds me of that one loser cis chaser guy that’s just kind of there and making everyone uncomfortable in every other lgbt friend group.
>vaush needs to go fuck himself with this reddit tier ‘logically sound argument’ bullshit already
This is incredibly retarded of you and points out that it's just people being mad that what they believe by feeling is wrong when examined
>making an argument i can't refute is reddit
lol. lmao, even
>the concept of making good arguments is "reddit" now
I IMPLORE ANTI-INTELLECTUALS TO STOP MAKING ME DEFEND THAT RETARDED FUCK VAUSH
vaush has a ukranian flag in his pfp and in his username. he is deeply obsessed about one group of people, but those arent trans people
that being said he does have a lot of retarded takes on trans issues
What are his retarded trans takes?
hes way too extreme on trans issues. he believes that its more ok to teach lgbt shit in schools and that kids should be allowed to get puberty blockers, and that banning either is "fascist". in general he views any "anti-trans" law as fascist and fearmongers that trans people are in deep danger because of the dumbest of shit like not being able use the correct bathroom (which i think is dumb, but not the end of the world)
he also thinks its somehow optically good to not speak about a lot of the dumb shit from the left. like how he (rightfully) mentioned that kink doesnt belong at public pride events, before later saying how he wouldnt talk about such stuff now because it somehow makes right wing sound correct. or how he made a video siding with the retards when the whole balenciaga shit happened. i agree that shoe shouldve called out the retards who took the balenciaga thing as "the lgbt trying to groom kids", but to say that calling out the balenciaga thing as bad was damaging to the lgbt was the worst thing he couldve said. the correct reaction to retards thinking balenciaga was a part of some satanic lgbt child grooming shit was to ask those retards what the fuck does the lgbt even have to do with what balenciaga did, not to get angry at shoe because some retards took what she said not only out of context, but added context that was never there to begin with
im not saying that because im a big shoe0nhead fangirl or anything, but because as a tranny it makes me so tired. to not only see fuckers like vaush not being able to take "adults are allowed to transition" as good enough, and instead you either have to allow schools to talk about it and kids to take puberty blockers and all that shit, or its literally 1933 germany, but to also see then dance around bs thats optically damaging to the lgbt. he makes it seem to his audiance like calling out all that shit is dogwhistling
kys, trans kids should get to have their desired puberty.
>hes way too extreme on trans issues. he believes that its more ok to teach lgbt shit in schools and that kids should be allowed to get puberty blockers, and that banning either is "fascist". in general he views any "anti-trans" law as fascist
Waow
(based based based)
Trans female voices should be talked over by cis allies unless they have voice trained
Tranny here who needs to voice train. I'm okay with this.
Agps in the closet
bi incels and closet agps
theyre basically the same thing and there is a pipeline but yeah them
>despite constantly talking over trans people
desu, just because your trans, doesn't mean you are more correct on the issues. (obviously its hard to pull from experiences that way, but still)
also not to say op picrel is any more correct
vaush isnt anything special, he does that to everyone
Idk but considering the alternative, I'm chill enough with them. I dislike Vaush in particular doe
those are just desperate men and they come in all shapes
some of them become an outspoken trans ally to get bussy
some of them become obnoxiously feminist to get pussy
some of them become race-baiting wokescolds to get ethnic pussy
A lot of white, het liberals consider trannies and black people to be subhumans just like conservatives do. But they consider themselves to be virtuous for supporting these subhumans kek. They don't really believe that you're equal to a heterosexual couple with children.
Exactly why I prefer conservative transphobes to these people
it's funny that no matter what he will always be that fatter neckbeardier version of himself in most people's mind
He's kinda handsome now
everytime I see him I just think 'yeah, it's the midaged catman at the bar'
Genuinely why do so many moids refuse to ever shave?? You think your beard fucking means something?
Most of them can't pull it off either. It's just so pathetic, it's like "look everyone i'm a big boy with my big boy beard!!!111!!"
wdym, he has a good beard
I think most beards are actually good unless they're severely unkept or patchy and pubey, they're like man-makeup for the jaw
his beard is nice. he brushes it and its shaped/ styled.
>Genuinely why do so many moids refuse to ever shave?? You think your beard fucking means something?
I saw this image and my first thought was along the lines of "he finally trooned out" lmao
If he lost weight he'd be a decent twink
I mean he probably is a little chubby under there but it wouldn't be that bad, the filter puts fat face to the width of the beard on everyone when it's obviously gonna be less wide after
>excessively try to label himself as an "ally" despite constantly talking over trans people?
Some trans people just need to be talked over by someone that knows better than them, simple as that.
literally me
t. manmoder
I love how troons and terfs unite in their disdain for this creep
I'd never call myself an ally because I'm not a fag but trannies need to be talked over. The more voices drowing out the stupid shit trannies say the better.
funny that he's extremely anti-e-boicon but said this
Through a certain lens, I can *kind of* see the logic there, but what a stupid thing to say. Especially with his reputation.
He didn't get popular until a year or two later covering the election cycle
He was like mildly known as a commenter in someone else's community until then, which is where he said most of his wild shit I believe
>leftwing chasers are gross gocksucking wolf in sheeps clothing sexual predators
>rightwing chasers respect their princesses
Same as it ever was
why don't you ask this about all of the transphobes?
Transphobes are less interesting.
Vaush is basically pseudo-transphobic on account of talking over actual trans people and not listening to them half the time, he just has a fetish for them.
Contrary to popular belief, most transphobes do not have secret feelings for MTFs, so in Vaush's case it's special
>talking over actual trans people and not listening to them
Meaningless wokescold bullshit
Lots of people are retarded and should not be cowed to because of some concept of elevated identity importance
Fuck off with that
"wokescold" is the new "sjw" soooooo opinion discarded ^_^
No, rightoids screaming about pronouns are the new sjws
The type of person who does something for example like completely derail the conversation of the murder of a trans teen because the hashtag people used for her should be reserved for black solidarity, that's a wokescold, it's a real issue and not as catty as sjw optics screeching of the past
>transphobes do not have secret feelings for MTFs
Aren't a surprisingly large portion of (male) transphobes secretly attracted to MTFs?
That's pure copium. Cis transphobes hate us because they think we're disgusting.
Ask the average cis man what he would do if he found out his date is trans.
It's the same as "lol homophobic politicians are all secretly gay"
The penile circumference trials, they do not lie
>talking over actual trans people and not listening to them half the time
go back to traaa
idpol is fucking stupid
Have you guys ever listened to Vaush besides the few no-context clips that make the rounds online? He continually makes better arguments for trans rights than most people
he still said those things? He still yelled at a black woman and accused her of wanting to kill whites, he's openly talked nsfw about horses on discord and talks about trans people in a fetishistic way (talks about banging ftms but call them "trans boys" instead of men)
and he openly talks over the people he claims to be for
I just want him to fucking disappear. as a trans person i do not want him to speak anymore. he should just jack off to hentai and work a boring job. that's what he was meant for. he's not even smart
it pisses me off that people like him and natalie basically got rich off of nothing but making shitty videos, but vaush is way worse
I hate him because he's ugly and soi
She would turn into a phat poggg if she went on hrt. Delicious mommy milkers too. Id pay to see her fat ass get BLACKED
Please I beg you go to bed and stop posting
This is my first post in this thread you tard. Its also only 7pm when I live so get fucked
Your posts have been deemed too low quality, as punishment you must be in bed with your teeth brushed and face washed by 7:45
The disconnect between the pictures of Vaush people always use and his current appearance is incredibly funny.
He looks handsome and gay now, pretty based
Gay men look way better, more like part of a dnd polycule where he gets cucked by tyrone