Failed at deMENAfy their culture and society, Granada today would be an horrid Marrakesh tier shithole if wasn't for ethnic cleansing and castilians doing reforms throughout the city to adapt it to the latin culture and architecture in spanish inquisition standards about how a catholic city should look like.
The only relevant buildings in Greece are stuff built by Italians unironically: Corfù, Crete, Zakyntos,... Peloponnese Is literally Africa outside of ports and castles built by Venetians: ancient Sparta is just a pile of rocks.
while greeks may not be genetically turks they sure are memetically turks.
being under ottorat rule for 600 year
Turks
turkey doesnt look like the shithole greece is, not even close, you ever been to istanbul? athens is not even comparable, holy frick what a shithole, you cant just keep blaming your problems on others and then not deal with them
M8 most of the Greeks got TURKED forcefully they had their capital taken from them the second rome tldr they got royally fricked I don’t really blame them for there defeationism going through that much shit much scar you deep
>be Iberia a b***h to the foreign Vishigoth invaders >get colonized and ruled by Muslims for long centuries >the you get independence and reclaim all your lands back with your own hands >build one of the biggest empires in history conquering the new world >become a rich and powerful superpower in Europe
VS >be Greek >a b***h larping as Roman since the day the real Romans conquered your land >get colonized and ruled by Muslims for long centuries >get independence with the help of European powers then become arrogant and full of yourself you wage a war against the weak man of Europe hoping to take back Constantinople and Anatolia but you fail miserably and get BTFO by the Turks >WW2 and instead of rebuilding your shithole you break into a devastating civil war with commies >get BTFO again by the Turks in Cyprus >you go through one of the most hilarious economical crisis >have the third biggest government debt in the world you became >it's been over a 100 years since your independence and you are still an irrelevant third world shithole
no outsider to blame, the fault is with the Gayreeks themselves
Dubrovnik was "built" by the Italians in the same way the Kingdom of England was "built" by the French. Actually even less so, considering at no point did actual Italians collectively displace the local ruling class.
>The official language until 1472 was Latin. As a consequence of the increasing migration of Slavic population from inland Dalmatia, the language spoken by much of the population was Croatian, typically referred to in Dubrovnik's historical documents simply as "Slavic". To oppose the demographic change due to increased Slavic immigration from the Balkans, the native Romance population of Ragusa, which made up the oligarchic government of the Republic, tried to prohibit the use of any Slavic languages in official councils.[40]
>The Italian language as spoken in the republic was heavily influenced by the Venetian language and the Tuscan dialect. Italian took root among the Dalmatian-speaking merchant upper classes, as a result of Venetian influence which strengthened the original Latin element of the population.[41][42]
Also, Italianshits were literally seen as foreigners just as Slavshits, in fact, Venetians and the likes were despised rivals and enemies.
Demographically, the city was majorily Slavshit already by the 14th century, just when it starts being of any relevance anyway.
Also, Latin as official isn't an argument in your favor you fricking imbecile
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dalmatian is not Balkan/Eastern Romance, dumbass. It's basically a dialect of Italian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>posting a map from 600AD
Really can't do better, huh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seething slav(e)
>The Italo-Dalmatian languages, or Central Romance languages, are a group of Romance languages spoken in Italy, Corsica (France), and formerly in Dalmatia (Croatia).
It's literally as Italian as Venetian is. If Dalmatians aren't Italians, then neither are the Venetians
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope. No romance-speaking Ragusan felt any degree kinship with a Milanese or Calabrian that is characteristic of fellow co-ethnics. You can claim Venetian history on the fact that they've (largely) assimilated and adopted the Italian identity that was imposed on them post-unification, but no such process existed for the Dalmatians, and it was not guaranteed to happen had they survived. Ergo, not Italian. Ethnicity is more than a similar language or superficial similarities.
But it will keep your women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals, Miroslav.
>European family of nations.
Lol. By all means keep your privileged status in the "European family of nations" all to yourselves. In fact, please consider us as alien as possible.
But it will keep your women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals, Miroslav.
>women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals,
Your country is in a demographic death spiral and economically stagnant. Croatia is fricked but people who ditch this place go for greener pastures, and that is Germany, Ireland, and Scandinavia, not similarly decaying dumps with no future.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who the frick wakes up at thinks ah yes i want to move and work in italy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nigerians.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Albanians if you scratch the 'work' part
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nope. No romance-speaking Ragusan felt any degree kinship with a Milanese or Calabrian
Neither did a Venetian feel more or less kinship with Calabrian or Milanese back then. The Situation is exactly the same with Dalmatians. If the language still existed, or the territory was unified with Italy during the Risorgimento like those other places they would identify as Italians today as much as a Tuscan.
>In fact, please consider us as alien as possible.
By grace of geography and occupying former Italian territory Croats can at most be afforded subordinate status.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Croats should cross the adriatic and finish this fricking pesticide they started 80 years ago following ww2. All of you wannabe romans need to be burned alive. Covid was a gift from god considering how hard italy got hit
2 years ago
Anonymous
> If the language still existed, or the territory was unified with Italy during the Risorgimento like those other places they would identify as Italians today as much as a Tuscan.
Only the latter is true. But since the process never happened, and it was perfectly possible that Dalmatian Romance people would have considered themselves their own separate ethnicity, there is 0 reason to assign them the status of Italian based upon a conditional hypothetical in which they *might* have ended up identifying as Italian. There are plenty of examples of different ethnic groups with just as if not more similar languages than Italian and Dalmatian Romance, and I'm not just talking about the Balkans. At the end of the day, without a strong collective sense of "us" and "them", there simply is no ethnicity to speak of. "What could have been" is irrelevant. >By grace of geography and occupying former Italian territory Croats can at most be afforded subordinate status.
I possess 0 care about having anything to do with a dying continent that resigned itself to be a permanent constellation of vassal states to America with its talent pool being drained or simply dying off due to demographics, its youth mentally colonized, its innovation lagging compared to its peers, and its future fated for irrelevance. There is no appeal in that.
Being European was extremely appealing in the 19th century. Today I'd much rather wewuz about being Iranian based on the Tanais tablets. Whatever category you or any other Europeón puts us in is something I couldn't care less about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>resigned itself to be a permanent constellation of vassal states to America
This is 100% true, and I'm sick of europoors pretending otherwise. Euros ARE our b***hes. Euros WILL remain our b***hes. Your kids WILL mimic all of our moronic trends. Your languages WILL be butchered by Anglicisms. It is OVER for eurocucks. All you have is your history to jerk off over while loyally serving your betters
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If, if, if, if, if...
Slav(e) cope. Italian was the official language of Dalmatia from the 15th century to 1909, when your Austrian slave masters decided to Croatize the land. That's the eternal fate of the Cro*t: eternal slave to the Germans, Anglos and israelites. Now go back washing toilettes in Vienna. LOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you're fricking moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wikipedia
Everyone knows that Dalmatian Romance belongs to Eastern Romance. Shittalianse editing pages to fit their cope won't change the truth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure, Dimitru Gypsescu.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>African romance >Aramaic >Coptic
VVVVVVGGGGHHHH, damn arabs and their goatfricker pedo prophet
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dalmatian Romance is absolutely not an Italian dialect you moron lol
Bullshit. Even the Tito goons admitted that the italians were the majority in all the coastal cities from Trieste all the way to Ragusa, while slaves dominated the rural areas, but had to deny it so they could claim all the land
Motherfricker, Zara, the largest Dalmatian city, is recorded as being a Slavic city already by 1277.
By the late 15th century, even most islands were Slavic.
For fricks sake eastern Istria was Slavic already by the 11th century.
Literally the only area with an Italian majority was western Istria.
Italian moggs truly are pathetic with the wewuzzing, and the insults towards Slavs here are just the tip of the seethe.
Croats took a coastline far more beautiful than your own and you are just pissy about it.
I travelled both countries far and wide, and Croats are far, faaar more civilized and European than anything south of Firenze, and northern Italos are on par with Croats at best, if slightly beneath.
Fricking mumbo jumbos
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shut the frick up ujko Split looks like a provincial town in the Sahel that just happens to have electricity. Italy is by no means any good but at least it has some sense of order and cleanliness. Ive done a roadtrip from Denmark to Turkey and crossing from Slovenia into Croatia was surreal, it was like crossing from a nice alpine country into the worlds blandest shithole, at least Bosnia and MonteBlack have some kind of charm and novelty to it, Croatia is like the ranch dressing of countries.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Someone is a bit pissy Zdravko mate pressed his highschool crush when she came to Sibenik on ferragosta
Though yeah, considering how Croats treat Italian girls as they swarm their dicks in thirst every summer it is no wonder Itamanlets are so pissy against 182cmroatians
2 years ago
Anonymous
Im not an Italian you purger, I dont understand why you projecting when your women are severina tier prostitutes all over northern europe.
The fact is you're just a slimey people thats all, not racist or mad just dont like you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I knew you were a Serb,
I am projecting for the purpose of pulling actual Italians because Serbs have become too predictable to be entertaining.
Though, the very fact you engaged despite this not being about you, just so you can fuse about Croatia, is worth the slick enough
2 years ago
Anonymous
Im not a serb why are you still projecting? Im not even from Europe m8, its just that Ive been all over Europe and your people are simply the most sleezy, youre so full of yourself that everything in your country is way too expensive yet the quality is piss and the service is even worse, everything is dirty and unkept and its the closest thing to Africa in Europe. Albania and Turkey are no joke much cleaner and friendlier than Croatia.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are lying,
you gave yourself up with 2 little details in your replies that non-balkanites would not comment
2 years ago
Anonymous
>implying purger and ujko are some esoteric hidden terms when you people shitpost arguments all over chans at all times
You just keep proving what self centred people you are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not those,
less obvious
Next time do better
2 years ago
Anonymous
Serbs are so fricking miserable it's not even funny anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao. Do your family a favor and have a nice day.
Im not a serb why are you still projecting? Im not even from Europe m8, its just that Ive been all over Europe and your people are simply the most sleezy, youre so full of yourself that everything in your country is way too expensive yet the quality is piss and the service is even worse, everything is dirty and unkept and its the closest thing to Africa in Europe. Albania and Turkey are no joke much cleaner and friendlier than Croatia.
>your people are simply the most sleezy, youre so full of yourself that everything in your country is way too expensive yet the quality is piss and the service is even worse, everything is dirty and unkept and its the closest thing to Africa in Europe
Holy based. Hopefully the waiter spit in your meal too but unfortunately we're not quite as cool as you make us out to be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well that wont change anything, however your nation is killing itself dont you guys have like one of the lowest replacement rates in Europe? I read in the news recently youve been outbred out of Bosnia and are crying to the EU to protect you. Feels good to be an actual first worlder and see ujkos get what they deserve. I legitimately had no beef with you so called people until i visited croatia and read about your history and for all its worth the coast you stole just means you have to wipe the asses of germans and swedes, then so be it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Your country is declining demographically faster than mine is
Lol, okay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dont live in a demographically declining nation. Why are Croats so full of themeselves even tho they are literal flatland gypsies? Imagine fighting a war for territory and then just leaving it because your women wont have kids and want to live in germany lmao. All those dead u for nothing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I dont live in a demographically declining nation.
Post native TFR for 2021.
2 years ago
Anonymous
1.61% population increase compared to your loss of what -0.5%?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ask native TFR >Get population change
Certified moron. If you're going to boast about your host country outsourcing reproduction to the third world, by all means do so.
>implying purger and ujko are some esoteric hidden terms when you people shitpost arguments all over chans at all times
You just keep proving what self centred people you are.
Certified diaspora.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao imagine being this moronic, not even being able to check which country this is. This is the croat mind. Here women have kids unlike Croatia.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol. Illiterate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dunno why you so butthurt about the truth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Post native TFR.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2.28
Sorry, cant hear you over your land being locked
My country has a larger coastline than you
2 years ago
Anonymous
The only 1st world country with an above replacement fertility rate is Israel at 2.99. The next closest one is France, but it's at 1.90.
Either you're living in a third world country or (almost certainly) you're full of shit, which is it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Im Saudi bro, and I live better than the average Croat yes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry, cant hear you over your land being locked
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that tiny bit of Romance in South England
???
Do they have any evidence for that, or did they just put it there to symbolize some hypothetical Romance-speakers who could've survived the Saxon invasions?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no pictish in Scotland
shit map
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bullshit. Even the Tito goons admitted that the italians were the majority in all the coastal cities from Trieste all the way to Ragusa, while slaves dominated the rural areas, but had to deny it so they could claim all the land
2 years ago
Anonymous
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH probably the most moronic bait ive ever seen
Almost like dubrovnik was a republic focused on trade with italian language being THE trade language acrosd the mediterenian. 99% of population still spoke croatian in general and everyday life including the nobility
This its all a croat land grabbing cope, they do this all over the place, settle it with piss poor laborers from slavonia and then somehow claim its Croatian as soon as the opportunity arises, Croats are way worse than israelites in every regard, they did this to Bosnia, they did this to Slovenia even going so far as to try and bribe international courts and then when the decision was against them just fricking ignore it, they did this in srem to the serbs and in slavonia to the native hungarian population. There is no greater israelite than the Croat even the israelite fears being outjewed by them. Croats are a cespool of slavic mutts that just steal whatever they can. I fricking hate Croats.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they do this all over the place, settle it with piss poor laborers from slavonia and then somehow claim its Croatian as soon as the opportunity arises, Croats are way worse than israelites in every regard, they did this to Bosnia, they did this to Slovenia even going so far as to try and bribe international courts and then when the decision was against them just fricking ignore it, they did this in srem to the serbs and in slavonia to the native hungarian population. There is no greater israelite than the Croat even the israelite fears being outjewed by them. Croats are a cespool of slavic mutts that just steal whatever they can
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is a more accurate picture as you give up your HRT boipussi to the turks or magyars, italians or germans and then scheme against them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's over, you made us sound incredibly based. You don't get to backtrack from your own post, moronic frog.
Equally pathetic that Italians claim the same from Romanized non-Italians on a far, faaar greater degree.
At least the Slav scum were actually there, and sctually lived and participated in the city, unlike shitalianz
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Slav scum were actually there
The Slavshits that lived there were nothing more than shit-eating rustics, their presence amounted to nothing more than squatting on Italian land as a result of gradual encroachment over the centuries following their invasion.
The Italians were the nobility, the merchants, artisans, and the high clergy. The Slavscum "Croats" were barbaric little apes indistinguisable from the other Slavoid invaders in the Balkans. Their culture and identity is a modern fabrication now falsely celebrated as an ancient tradition.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All this seething won't bring your bisnonna back from the bottom of a foiba, Giuseppe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But it will keep your women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals, Miroslav.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm actually French. I just can't stand these subhuman Balkan Slavshits pretending that they stand equally among the European family of nations.
That city was already there centuries before the first proto-slave crossed the Danube. You people occupied the city like Black folk nowadays invade cities built by burgers
>at no point did actual Italians collectively displace the local ruling class
Holy mother of cope, the fricking city literally had its official name in italian and italian mayors all the way to the late 19th century.
Last time slavoids gor uppity about something italians got ethnically cleansed from dalmatia. We need to finish this pesticide now and send you gothshits back to germany where you came from
Aside from the obvious cherrypicking, Greece always had it the hardest out of all the European nations as they were held down the most and the longest by Muslims. When you're the closest in proximity to all of Islamic Asia you're going to have more problems.
I think a lot of modern European history is Western Europeans arriving in Greece, taking a look around, and being like "you were supposed to have invented us!!!" and then coping and seething about it and then building some knockoff neoclassical buildings.
Orthodogs
the Protestant countries are the most civilized countries on Europe followed by the Catholics and then at the very bottom you have the Orthodog shitholes
Slovenia and Croatia are better than shitholes like Serbia and Macadonia, why? they aren't Orthodogs
Germany and Austria are better than Pooland and Hungary, why? they aren't Orthodogs
even in the fricking Caucasus Azerbijan is far better than Armernia and Georgia, why? because they aren't fricking savage barbaic Orthodogs
>Westerners destroying orthodoxcountries and allowing muslims to destroy orthodox countries >Heh why are you so backward
Dont apply here for a refugee once muslims kick you out
Weird how it's Orthodogs moving to non-Orthodogs countries and not the other way around. You keep dreaming for the non-existent future when people will want to move to your shithole though.
They did, DID.
Dont let the border patrol hear you saying that ok?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>talking about past wrongs to explain why your countries can't function for shit today (perennial turd world cope) >fantasizing about some distant future where westerners start applying to be part of your worthless shithole
Literally Wakanda tier delusion. Your countrymen will be stewing in their own shit 100 years in the future just as you are today, if not worse.
haphazard building "programme" after greeks were dislocated from t*rkey
Failed at deMENAfy their culture and society, Granada today would be an horrid Marrakesh tier shithole if wasn't for ethnic cleansing and castilians doing reforms throughout the city to adapt it to the latin culture and architecture in spanish inquisition standards about how a catholic city should look like.
The only relevant buildings in Greece are stuff built by Italians unironically: Corfù, Crete, Zakyntos,... Peloponnese Is literally Africa outside of ports and castles built by Venetians: ancient Sparta is just a pile of rocks.
Its impressive how turks hold the richest regions of West Eurasia and did absolutely nothing with them, didn't built anything.
Rich in what exactly?
turkey doesnt look like the shithole greece is, not even close, you ever been to istanbul? athens is not even comparable, holy frick what a shithole, you cant just keep blaming your problems on others and then not deal with them
M8 most of the Greeks got TURKED forcefully they had their capital taken from them the second rome tldr they got royally fricked I don’t really blame them for there defeationism going through that much shit much scar you deep
>be Iberia a b***h to the foreign Vishigoth invaders
>get colonized and ruled by Muslims for long centuries
>the you get independence and reclaim all your lands back with your own hands
>build one of the biggest empires in history conquering the new world
>become a rich and powerful superpower in Europe
VS
>be Greek
>a b***h larping as Roman since the day the real Romans conquered your land
>get colonized and ruled by Muslims for long centuries
>get independence with the help of European powers then become arrogant and full of yourself you wage a war against the weak man of Europe hoping to take back Constantinople and Anatolia but you fail miserably and get BTFO by the Turks
>WW2 and instead of rebuilding your shithole you break into a devastating civil war with commies
>get BTFO again by the Turks in Cyprus
>you go through one of the most hilarious economical crisis
>have the third biggest government debt in the world you became
>it's been over a 100 years since your independence and you are still an irrelevant third world shithole
no outsider to blame, the fault is with the Gayreeks themselves
Greece never had much to begin with, they probably have more after Turk rule than before it
while greeks may not be genetically turks they sure are memetically turks.
That "croatian" town was litterally built by italians.
Dubrovnik was "built" by the Italians in the same way the Kingdom of England was "built" by the French. Actually even less so, considering at no point did actual Italians collectively displace the local ruling class.
Slav(e) cope
>The official language until 1472 was Latin. As a consequence of the increasing migration of Slavic population from inland Dalmatia, the language spoken by much of the population was Croatian, typically referred to in Dubrovnik's historical documents simply as "Slavic". To oppose the demographic change due to increased Slavic immigration from the Balkans, the native Romance population of Ragusa, which made up the oligarchic government of the Republic, tried to prohibit the use of any Slavic languages in official councils.[40]
>The Italian language as spoken in the republic was heavily influenced by the Venetian language and the Tuscan dialect. Italian took root among the Dalmatian-speaking merchant upper classes, as a result of Venetian influence which strengthened the original Latin element of the population.[41][42]
>language
>language
>language
Proving my point, dumb Black person.
>Balkan Romance
>Italian
his/frickians are truly fricking moronic
Also, Italianshits were literally seen as foreigners just as Slavshits, in fact, Venetians and the likes were despised rivals and enemies.
Demographically, the city was majorily Slavshit already by the 14th century, just when it starts being of any relevance anyway.
Also, Latin as official isn't an argument in your favor you fricking imbecile
Dalmatian is not Balkan/Eastern Romance, dumbass. It's basically a dialect of Italian.
>posting a map from 600AD
Really can't do better, huh?
Seething slav(e)
>The Italo-Dalmatian languages, or Central Romance languages, are a group of Romance languages spoken in Italy, Corsica (France), and formerly in Dalmatia (Croatia).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-Dalmatian_languages
Cool. Still not Italian.
It's literally as Italian as Venetian is. If Dalmatians aren't Italians, then neither are the Venetians
Nope. No romance-speaking Ragusan felt any degree kinship with a Milanese or Calabrian that is characteristic of fellow co-ethnics. You can claim Venetian history on the fact that they've (largely) assimilated and adopted the Italian identity that was imposed on them post-unification, but no such process existed for the Dalmatians, and it was not guaranteed to happen had they survived. Ergo, not Italian. Ethnicity is more than a similar language or superficial similarities.
>European family of nations.
Lol. By all means keep your privileged status in the "European family of nations" all to yourselves. In fact, please consider us as alien as possible.
>women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals,
Your country is in a demographic death spiral and economically stagnant. Croatia is fricked but people who ditch this place go for greener pastures, and that is Germany, Ireland, and Scandinavia, not similarly decaying dumps with no future.
Who the frick wakes up at thinks ah yes i want to move and work in italy
Nigerians.
Albanians if you scratch the 'work' part
>Nope. No romance-speaking Ragusan felt any degree kinship with a Milanese or Calabrian
Neither did a Venetian feel more or less kinship with Calabrian or Milanese back then. The Situation is exactly the same with Dalmatians. If the language still existed, or the territory was unified with Italy during the Risorgimento like those other places they would identify as Italians today as much as a Tuscan.
>In fact, please consider us as alien as possible.
By grace of geography and occupying former Italian territory Croats can at most be afforded subordinate status.
Croats should cross the adriatic and finish this fricking pesticide they started 80 years ago following ww2. All of you wannabe romans need to be burned alive. Covid was a gift from god considering how hard italy got hit
> If the language still existed, or the territory was unified with Italy during the Risorgimento like those other places they would identify as Italians today as much as a Tuscan.
Only the latter is true. But since the process never happened, and it was perfectly possible that Dalmatian Romance people would have considered themselves their own separate ethnicity, there is 0 reason to assign them the status of Italian based upon a conditional hypothetical in which they *might* have ended up identifying as Italian. There are plenty of examples of different ethnic groups with just as if not more similar languages than Italian and Dalmatian Romance, and I'm not just talking about the Balkans. At the end of the day, without a strong collective sense of "us" and "them", there simply is no ethnicity to speak of. "What could have been" is irrelevant.
>By grace of geography and occupying former Italian territory Croats can at most be afforded subordinate status.
I possess 0 care about having anything to do with a dying continent that resigned itself to be a permanent constellation of vassal states to America with its talent pool being drained or simply dying off due to demographics, its youth mentally colonized, its innovation lagging compared to its peers, and its future fated for irrelevance. There is no appeal in that.
Being European was extremely appealing in the 19th century. Today I'd much rather wewuz about being Iranian based on the Tanais tablets. Whatever category you or any other Europeón puts us in is something I couldn't care less about.
>resigned itself to be a permanent constellation of vassal states to America
This is 100% true, and I'm sick of europoors pretending otherwise. Euros ARE our b***hes. Euros WILL remain our b***hes. Your kids WILL mimic all of our moronic trends. Your languages WILL be butchered by Anglicisms. It is OVER for eurocucks. All you have is your history to jerk off over while loyally serving your betters
>If, if, if, if, if...
Slav(e) cope. Italian was the official language of Dalmatia from the 15th century to 1909, when your Austrian slave masters decided to Croatize the land. That's the eternal fate of the Cro*t: eternal slave to the Germans, Anglos and israelites. Now go back washing toilettes in Vienna. LOL
Holy shit you're fricking moronic
>Wikipedia
Everyone knows that Dalmatian Romance belongs to Eastern Romance. Shittalianse editing pages to fit their cope won't change the truth.
Sure, Dimitru Gypsescu.
>African romance
>Aramaic
>Coptic
VVVVVVGGGGHHHH, damn arabs and their goatfricker pedo prophet
Dalmatian Romance is absolutely not an Italian dialect you moron lol
Motherfricker, Zara, the largest Dalmatian city, is recorded as being a Slavic city already by 1277.
By the late 15th century, even most islands were Slavic.
For fricks sake eastern Istria was Slavic already by the 11th century.
Literally the only area with an Italian majority was western Istria.
Italian moggs truly are pathetic with the wewuzzing, and the insults towards Slavs here are just the tip of the seethe.
Croats took a coastline far more beautiful than your own and you are just pissy about it.
I travelled both countries far and wide, and Croats are far, faaar more civilized and European than anything south of Firenze, and northern Italos are on par with Croats at best, if slightly beneath.
Fricking mumbo jumbos
Shut the frick up ujko Split looks like a provincial town in the Sahel that just happens to have electricity. Italy is by no means any good but at least it has some sense of order and cleanliness. Ive done a roadtrip from Denmark to Turkey and crossing from Slovenia into Croatia was surreal, it was like crossing from a nice alpine country into the worlds blandest shithole, at least Bosnia and MonteBlack have some kind of charm and novelty to it, Croatia is like the ranch dressing of countries.
Someone is a bit pissy Zdravko mate pressed his highschool crush when she came to Sibenik on ferragosta
Though yeah, considering how Croats treat Italian girls as they swarm their dicks in thirst every summer it is no wonder Itamanlets are so pissy against 182cmroatians
Im not an Italian you purger, I dont understand why you projecting when your women are severina tier prostitutes all over northern europe.
The fact is you're just a slimey people thats all, not racist or mad just dont like you.
I knew you were a Serb,
I am projecting for the purpose of pulling actual Italians because Serbs have become too predictable to be entertaining.
Though, the very fact you engaged despite this not being about you, just so you can fuse about Croatia, is worth the slick enough
Im not a serb why are you still projecting? Im not even from Europe m8, its just that Ive been all over Europe and your people are simply the most sleezy, youre so full of yourself that everything in your country is way too expensive yet the quality is piss and the service is even worse, everything is dirty and unkept and its the closest thing to Africa in Europe. Albania and Turkey are no joke much cleaner and friendlier than Croatia.
You are lying,
you gave yourself up with 2 little details in your replies that non-balkanites would not comment
>implying purger and ujko are some esoteric hidden terms when you people shitpost arguments all over chans at all times
You just keep proving what self centred people you are.
Not those,
less obvious
Next time do better
Serbs are so fricking miserable it's not even funny anymore
Lmao. Do your family a favor and have a nice day.
>your people are simply the most sleezy, youre so full of yourself that everything in your country is way too expensive yet the quality is piss and the service is even worse, everything is dirty and unkept and its the closest thing to Africa in Europe
Holy based. Hopefully the waiter spit in your meal too but unfortunately we're not quite as cool as you make us out to be.
Well that wont change anything, however your nation is killing itself dont you guys have like one of the lowest replacement rates in Europe? I read in the news recently youve been outbred out of Bosnia and are crying to the EU to protect you. Feels good to be an actual first worlder and see ujkos get what they deserve. I legitimately had no beef with you so called people until i visited croatia and read about your history and for all its worth the coast you stole just means you have to wipe the asses of germans and swedes, then so be it.
>Your country is declining demographically faster than mine is
Lol, okay.
I dont live in a demographically declining nation. Why are Croats so full of themeselves even tho they are literal flatland gypsies? Imagine fighting a war for territory and then just leaving it because your women wont have kids and want to live in germany lmao. All those dead u for nothing.
>I dont live in a demographically declining nation.
Post native TFR for 2021.
1.61% population increase compared to your loss of what -0.5%?
>Ask native TFR
>Get population change
Certified moron. If you're going to boast about your host country outsourcing reproduction to the third world, by all means do so.
Certified diaspora.
Lmao imagine being this moronic, not even being able to check which country this is. This is the croat mind. Here women have kids unlike Croatia.
Lol. Illiterate.
I dunno why you so butthurt about the truth.
Post native TFR.
2.28
My country has a larger coastline than you
The only 1st world country with an above replacement fertility rate is Israel at 2.99. The next closest one is France, but it's at 1.90.
Either you're living in a third world country or (almost certainly) you're full of shit, which is it?
Im Saudi bro, and I live better than the average Croat yes.
Sorry, cant hear you over your land being locked
>that tiny bit of Romance in South England
???
Do they have any evidence for that, or did they just put it there to symbolize some hypothetical Romance-speakers who could've survived the Saxon invasions?
>no pictish in Scotland
shit map
Bullshit. Even the Tito goons admitted that the italians were the majority in all the coastal cities from Trieste all the way to Ragusa, while slaves dominated the rural areas, but had to deny it so they could claim all the land
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH probably the most moronic bait ive ever seen
Almost like dubrovnik was a republic focused on trade with italian language being THE trade language acrosd the mediterenian. 99% of population still spoke croatian in general and everyday life including the nobility
This its all a croat land grabbing cope, they do this all over the place, settle it with piss poor laborers from slavonia and then somehow claim its Croatian as soon as the opportunity arises, Croats are way worse than israelites in every regard, they did this to Bosnia, they did this to Slovenia even going so far as to try and bribe international courts and then when the decision was against them just fricking ignore it, they did this in srem to the serbs and in slavonia to the native hungarian population. There is no greater israelite than the Croat even the israelite fears being outjewed by them. Croats are a cespool of slavic mutts that just steal whatever they can. I fricking hate Croats.
>they do this all over the place, settle it with piss poor laborers from slavonia and then somehow claim its Croatian as soon as the opportunity arises, Croats are way worse than israelites in every regard, they did this to Bosnia, they did this to Slovenia even going so far as to try and bribe international courts and then when the decision was against them just fricking ignore it, they did this in srem to the serbs and in slavonia to the native hungarian population. There is no greater israelite than the Croat even the israelite fears being outjewed by them. Croats are a cespool of slavic mutts that just steal whatever they can
This is a more accurate picture as you give up your HRT boipussi to the turks or magyars, italians or germans and then scheme against them.
It's over, you made us sound incredibly based. You don't get to backtrack from your own post, moronic frog.
That's one cute boy
It's pathetic when these Slavs with no history try to appropriate the achievements of their betters.
Equally pathetic that Italians claim the same from Romanized non-Italians on a far, faaar greater degree.
At least the Slav scum were actually there, and sctually lived and participated in the city, unlike shitalianz
>Slav scum were actually there
The Slavshits that lived there were nothing more than shit-eating rustics, their presence amounted to nothing more than squatting on Italian land as a result of gradual encroachment over the centuries following their invasion.
The Italians were the nobility, the merchants, artisans, and the high clergy. The Slavscum "Croats" were barbaric little apes indistinguisable from the other Slavoid invaders in the Balkans. Their culture and identity is a modern fabrication now falsely celebrated as an ancient tradition.
All this seething won't bring your bisnonna back from the bottom of a foiba, Giuseppe.
But it will keep your women to come here hoping to landing an italian husband and/or working as prostitutes, and your men to "work" here as petty criminals, Miroslav.
I'm actually French. I just can't stand these subhuman Balkan Slavshits pretending that they stand equally among the European family of nations.
That city was already there centuries before the first proto-slave crossed the Danube. You people occupied the city like Black folk nowadays invade cities built by burgers
Ignoring that the city in its 7th century form didn't look like anything like today, none of that is irrelevant in making the town Italian lmao.
*relevant
>at no point did actual Italians collectively displace the local ruling class
Holy mother of cope, the fricking city literally had its official name in italian and italian mayors all the way to the late 19th century.
>language
No one denied the use of Italian in the republic, moron.
>cherry picking.jpg
Paris does NOT look like that tbh
It does, of course we have modern shithole but the old Paris looks even better
And so does Old Athens.
It's just that Paris didn't double in size in a single year due to a catastrophe.
Nearly everything in Athens was only built after mid 19th century. Before that it was a tiny and irrelevant village populated by Albanians.
Socialism causes poverty which causes the high-IQ to leave, which causes more poverty which causes more high-IQ to leave, which causes more poverty...
being under ottorat rule for 600 year
Haha yeah, whoever heard of there being picturesque coastal town and hillside views of Greece?
Racism against Slavs ITT
We need more of it, just in case these Slavoids get uppity again.
Last time slavoids gor uppity about something italians got ethnically cleansed from dalmatia. We need to finish this pesticide now and send you gothshits back to germany where you came from
Last time slavshits got uppity they committed genocide against another identical neighbouring ethnic group.
Such are these ape-brained "people"
Cope and seeth wannabe roman
Dementia
Turks
>France
have you ever been to france? it doesn't look like that one bit, sure might be in our granddad/dad time but definitely not now
From Ottoman rule
delirious
Aside from the obvious cherrypicking, Greece always had it the hardest out of all the European nations as they were held down the most and the longest by Muslims. When you're the closest in proximity to all of Islamic Asia you're going to have more problems.
I think a lot of modern European history is Western Europeans arriving in Greece, taking a look around, and being like "you were supposed to have invented us!!!" and then coping and seething about it and then building some knockoff neoclassical buildings.
Orthodogs
the Protestant countries are the most civilized countries on Europe followed by the Catholics and then at the very bottom you have the Orthodog shitholes
Slovenia and Croatia are better than shitholes like Serbia and Macadonia, why? they aren't Orthodogs
Germany and Austria are better than Pooland and Hungary, why? they aren't Orthodogs
even in the fricking Caucasus Azerbijan is far better than Armernia and Georgia, why? because they aren't fricking savage barbaic Orthodogs
>Westerners destroying orthodoxcountries and allowing muslims to destroy orthodox countries
>Heh why are you so backward
Dont apply here for a refugee once muslims kick you out
Weird how it's Orthodogs moving to non-Orthodogs countries and not the other way around. You keep dreaming for the non-existent future when people will want to move to your shithole though.
They did, DID.
Dont let the border patrol hear you saying that ok?
>talking about past wrongs to explain why your countries can't function for shit today (perennial turd world cope)
>fantasizing about some distant future where westerners start applying to be part of your worthless shithole
Literally Wakanda tier delusion. Your countrymen will be stewing in their own shit 100 years in the future just as you are today, if not worse.
That they have SOVL? They're southern Europeans, the Europeans who built western civilization