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What attracts dorks to prog rock?
It’s technical like math and all about numbers or or something lame like that it doesn’t require a heart to do it so nerds like it
Good response. Nerds like meticulously piecing together complex things in unconventional ways, even if the end product is a useless, ugly piece of shit (like prog rock songs)
Dumbfuck retard response.
yup agreed. and there are clearer standards for what is "good" in the genre (whatever is more technical/difficult/advanced), vs. having to discern an aesthetic or stylistic judgment. it lets people chart things easier in a way that seems more objective, instead of floating around inside personal taste.
I don’t know what this means
big prog rock fan eh?
I don’t know what that is
autism
homosexual.
also allows them to daydream about other people being very impressed by their refined taste
>it doesn’t require a heart to do it
t. never listened to a prog album in their life
go wash your hair
the music. aka the only thing that should matter to anyone listening to music.
Simple music disguised as something deep and intellectual
>Simple music disguised as something deep and intellectual
Sounds like most conscious hip hop
What attracts degenerate losers to punk rock?
too insecure about their looks, they feel driven towards being perceived as intelligent, which is what progressive rock is perceived as, however, they are not actually intelligent enough to appreciate proper art music (aka "classical music")
This is a pseud take. Classical music can be simple or complex. Take this piece of classical music for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU
And take this prog song for example (this one is fairly complex, but it's not a virtuoso-level song; simple enough for prog): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0jMPI_pUec
>the gymnopedies are fairly simple
lol
>Aqualung is fairly complex
lol
spoken like someone who doesn't know any music theory whatsoever
is fairly complex
>lol
oh man, you really have to be an idiot to use shady sites with no methodology behind it like "hooktheory.com" as a source lmao
those numbers are literally taken out of their ass, just shut up you illiterate retard
>too lazy to look up their methodology on the website
You're clearly not interested in an honest dialogue
they don't have a methodology in the first place, dipshit
and just from looking at their homepage you can see it's a shady site that wants to sell you stuff instead of educating you
i don't care if you think i'm interested in honest dialogue or not, because i know that even if you wanted to engage in honest dialogue, you wouldn't be able to contribute anything relevant to a music discussion, because you are musically illiterate as you just demonstrated by posting those meaningless screenshots
fucking moron
So what's your methodology for determining if a song is complex or simple? Because gymnopedies sounds pretty simply to me.
>Because gymnopedies sounds pretty simply to me.
i don't care what you think because you are musically illiterate
learn music theory if you want to ever have an educated opinion on music
goodbye
>refuses to elaborate on why gymnopedies isn't simple
Goodbye, indeed. I spoke well when I said that you aren't interested in an honest dialogue.
i insist
>i don't care what you think because you are musically illiterate
stop wasting my time
then stop replying. If you're posting on an anonymous website, your time can't be that valuable in this instance.
>>the gymnopedies are fairly simple
>lol
>handpicking a short mood piece from the entirety of classical music
so this is the progtard level of argumentation
His argument was that classical music doesn't need to complex.
Yes, and it obviously went over your head. It's called a counterexample and you only need one to prove a general point, pseud. Basically what
said
The backbone of songwriting for lots of prog bands is LOTR, which naturally attracts a lot of nerds. Lol it's not just that though, lots of themes of fantasy and folklore, not necessarily about girls or depression like a lot of songs are about.
The musicianship is usually pretty good and often include lots of cool instrumentation. The music is less conventional in general. The songs are long but they often have a variety of styles to them. It's music that's not afraid to be "extra." That's what I think is appealing about it, but maybe others feel differently.
>posts a picture of Steven Wilson
he's neither a dork nor a prog rocker lol
It’s rock and roll’s attempt at emulating classical music.
The bands will name their songs things like “Symphony” or “Movement” and use the whole album to tell a story instead of just being a collection of songs. Sometimes a single track will take up the entire side of a record, and tell some historical or fantasy story. The album covers often resembles (or straight up steal) classical artwork.
It’s literally just rock music emulating classical.
>classical
>artwork
lmao
You’re telling me this King Crimson album isn’t trying to look like a 14th century illuminated manuscript?
>inb4 “that’s not classical”
I think you should've dropped the "al" at the end
seething samefag
>>inb4 “that’s not classical”
you said it yourself lol. Not to mention this kind of cover would be way more fitting for a band trying to add elements of traditional folk music to their sound
>trying to look like a 14th century illuminated manuscript?
mutton dressed as lamb
why don't girls like prog?
Prog is too soulless, pretentious, and alien for girls to be into, let alone most people in general.
Spokeon like someone who does not listen to prog
Well then why don't any girls listen to prog then? lmao
I spent all of my teens listening to prog. I think most of it is pretty wacky, pretentious stuff now that I find quite boring, and I can definitely see why it doesn't appeal to girls.
You have literally never interacted with a girl in your life LOL
Girls only listen to whatever is popular in the radio and prog is not very commercial
Most people in general just listen to whatever's popular. Have you seen those videos where they ask people off the street what they're listening to? Guys always say some generic hip hop shit.
People are cattle
Kind of. But people tend to listen to current music, whether that be less popular or more popular. Back in the 70s there were women and more people in general who were into prog bands. Now you could rarely find anyone who listens to it. No, I don't believe "1/10 dudes would fuck with prog," it would be more like 1/25.
>actually listening to pwog or whatever that is
Your a weird creep
Try to show prog rock to a dude, like 1 out of 10 of them will fuck with it and want to hear more. 0/10 of the girls you show prog to will want to hear more.
>I personally don't know any, so they don't exist
pic related, 4 of them at a porcupine tree concert
>everyone there is ugly
4gaask
Porcupine Tree are hardly prog, and their breakthrough album, In Absentia was very girl-friendly, both in its sound and themes. Didn't some teenage girl who was a big PT fan kill herself so they made a tribute to her?
>Porcupine Tree are hardly prog
They have multiple 10 minute songs with different sections
Also both my mom and sister enjoy their music
wow, you're really mean you know that?
most people in general just listen to what's presented to them in everyday life, it has nothing to do with the bs you just spouted
Listen to Supper's Ready, Musical Box, and Thick as a Brick and tell me that those songs are "soulless". Women aren't into prog because they're hyper focused on vocals and lyrics, which is why artists like Taylor Swift and Adele (both are great singers, but their songs have very basic compositions) have such huge female fan bases. Hell, even the majority of men are like this.
Way to assume they don't exist because they do.
it takes one to know one
Too intelligent for chad rock fans to be into. Too low-brow and unsophisticated to be real classical music.
You end up with a bunch of mid-wit virgins with long receding hair pretending they’re sophisticated and thinking they’re smarter than everyone else when they’re really just dorks.
It's music made for musicians and people who care more about substancwe than style unlike punk or indie which attract critics and posers
50 years later and people still treat prog rock like alien music because it experimented just a little more than contemporary rock did.
Prog is music for people who don't care about image, why do you think all of the musicians looks so plain?
Also original 70s prog is very british, especially VDGG and Genesis
If you look at the generic "nerdy" things of Star Wars and Dungeons and Dragons, you'll notice the similarity that they both adapt something of a past format (opera and fantasy stories, respectively), adapt them into 20th century formats (film and role-playing games) and implement a variety of foreign influences (Japanese samurai films, the extensive literary influences of Dungeons and Dragons). These all apply easily to prog, with many of prog's most famous adapting classical formats into the modern day concept of popular music and bringing foreign ideas into it. This explanation ignores a lot of post-80's prog and anything more "inventive", but I find it's an understandable explanation.
>Why are you comparing Star Wars and Dungeons and Dragons to prog? They're both for basedboys while prog's for cool people like me.
I'm using them for the sake of comparison, since, like prog, they are both considered "nerdy". I am not arguing that somebody who enjoys those are likely to enjoy prog, nor am I arguing that prog is as culturally relevant as those two.
I'd argue most fans of prog rock (who pay attention to the structure and content of songs) have a capacity to enjoy classical. They both share the ideas of musical structure over catchiness, varry wildly in mood, and embrace virtuosity. If you're a prog fan and looking for a place to start in classical, I'd suggest Holst's "The Planets" suite, it has an overarching "concept", has beautiful, violent, and soft moments, is album length, modern and has influenced several members of the prog canon (Robert Fripp and Keith Emerson particularly).
Also I'd like to note I'm not arguing classical or prog are inherently complex. I am arguing that both appreciate the complexity of something, rather than the complexity being antithetical.
One of my earliest memories was of my dad putting Rush's album Hold Your Fire after a day at the park. I've just been raised on it. It gave me an appreciation of the skill required to be a musician, one that after 7 years on the bass is close but still far away. RIP Peart
I raised myself on lamb of god
lol at the zoomers and lefties being filtered eternally by prog for years to come
you people have garbage fucking taste
>you people have garbage fucking taste
>posts CGI man
lmao
#1 Reason I like prog: It surprises me sometimes. Lots ot music out there, I'll predict where it's going when I've never even heard the song. idk about you guys but I hate that.
I believe music should be JUST original enough that it has at least the smallest degree of unpredictability. It's easier to find that with bands that diversify their sound a little more...
I also don't like so much of it that it's contrived and therefore pretentious. there needs to be a balance.
I just want powerful music that has its own identity and comes from a real place, be it Prince or Steven Wilson or Bee Gees.
We're smarter so we like more complex, in-depth stuff that challenges and changes our perceptions. You'd have to be retarded not to figure that out. Stick with Ed Sheeran and Lil Pump or 'whatever is on.'