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What are the best vegan boots? I want to dress like the goose without compromising my values
What are the best vegan boots? I want to dress like the goose without compromising my values
What are the best vegan boots? I want to dress like the goose without compromising my values
only vegan boots I’ve owned are military style new rocks and I haven’t had any issues with them
>new rocks
And what values would those be?
Neoliberal consumerism, petrochemical exploitation, and complete distain for the environment?
There are brands that develop vegan materials that are also environmentally sensitive. I love pic related as an extreme example; I’m sure you can find something similar in a more traditional style of boot.
The only "vegan" materials are textiles derived from plants like cotton and hemp. People will advertise "mango leather" or something like that. The process is to bake the natural material into a dehydrated jerky. The the sneaky part is that they add a binder. And they wont say what the binder is but it’s actually polyurethane. Because you didn’t actually think that mango jerky would actually hold together for any amount of time did you?
>Plastic shoes like what you posted release more microplastics as they wear and age which harms the reproduction of animals. When they’re worn out they also wont decay. Natural boots will disappear in a year. Plastic ones wont.
didn’t mean to greentext that. I need to go to bed
Sorry to break it to you, but this guy here is right. Any vegan leather product not only is worse for the environment than a leather equivalent (which are already pretty bad themselves, I admit that) but will be severly inferior under any metric.
If you wanna live up to your values you should dress in 100% natural fabrics like hemp, cotton and wool. You’ll look like a hippy instead of the Goose, but that’s your choice.
>wool
>vegan
You don’t kill sheep to get wool
Anything that exploits an animal is not vegan. Honey is not vegan, for instance. Don’t offer advice if you don’t know the basics.
It’s not an exploitation, they need to be sheared or the wool won’t stop growing. If you don’t cut their wool off regularly they end up like this, which is definitely not humane.
Wild sheep do not grow large excesses of wool like that. The sheep you mention are only in existence because of their history of being exploited for their wool. The act of shearing an animal may not inherently be "inhumane" but some don’t see it as humane at all to keep an animal around for simply a transaction, one that it doesn’t really benefit from other than "Well it wouldn’t have existed if we didn’t breed it into existence"
Our choices are to exterminate every single domestic sheep or to shear them.
Or to stop breeding them and when the current population dies out you stop the practice altogether.
So, extermination.
Yeah sure if you wish to phrase letting a breed that is naturally unsustainable take it’s course die out as extermination, then yeah. We can use that word. I still think that’s the better alternative. What does domestically bred sheep gain from us? We take from it and what, we give it the luxury of having lived it’s life to begin with?
you’re an insufferable gay.
bro what are you doing don’t try to reason with him
he already told you he’s a vegan lmao
No but by the strict vegan ruleset you aren’t to consume any product that is a result of an exploitation of an animal. Wool farms can get rough. Farmed sheep are so genetically different from wild sheep/ram that they cannot survive without human intervention, which creates this circular logic of justifying their existence. When neglected they suffer, which can and does happen in wool farming practices, regardless of if they die as a result. It’s why a lot of vegans don’t care about free range or the "humane" label because they do not view any extraction of a material from an animal as human, as they do not see it as theirs to take.
I’ve met many vegans and not two of them follow the same exact ruleset. I guess a case could be for how hard is for the average person to 100% adhere to a strict vegan ruleset in today’s world. The stricter ones I’ve met wore woolen sweaters so I assumed it was fair game.
I know a "vegan" who wears leather.
That’s the thing, it doesn’t seem to be a universality adopted ruleset, so nitpicking on my previous comment because wool was mentioned among other options was a bit surprising to me.
I’m not vegan and have no issues regarding wool or leather, but I guess at least a subset of vegans and environmentalists could help pressure the industry to move towards more natural fabrics, broaden the market and maybe lower the price for us all. Better fabrics, less polution and better prices look like a win for everyone.
It’s an established ruleset, but I agree not universally adopted. I wasn’t meaning to nitpick or be hostile address the common counterargument to "You don’t kill sheep to get wool" that you would get from most vegans. I would not count the consumption of newly produced wools as vegan, mostly on account that there is plenty to go around. We have such a surplus of clothing produced with animal products that has historically been sent to landfills because it wasn’t sold quick enough and new stock was brought in.
>A subset of vegans/environmentalists could help pressure the industry to move towards more natural fabrics
I agree, but I also think it’s worth considering that as long as factory farming exists for diets, that the excess materials of those animals like wool/leather will always be utilized. That’s not me suggesting anyone to change their diet, I don’t care how others eat. But unfortunately the fashion industry gets a lot of surplus leathers on account of farmed food. Unless if the animal farming industry disappeared, there would be no lasting incentive for those fashion industries to not use their products.
Do you live in a house? Because the production of just about every single construction product annihilates massive swaths of animal habitat, which exploits and causes suffering in entire ecosystems of animals. You should probably just kys so you don’t accidentally exploit a bee.
Don’t bother
Veganism boils down to "we care about the pretty animals not the ugly ones"
Vegans have no clue about crop rearing practices, the mass slaughter of insects via pesticides, and the brutal slaughter of pest animals by gun, dog, trap, poison, and thresher required to sustain crop production
Strictly speaking the only way to avoid exploiting animals is to immediately commit suicide, an option for vegans that we can all agree with
The eco warrior should live in harmony with nature as a whole, taking his rightful place among it as predator at the apex, not try to artificially separate himself from it
You’re talking out of your ass dude. Vegans are well aware of all the shit you mentioned. Doesn’t alter the function of making consumer choices as a vegan. Our function as humans is not to sit atop the food chain but is in fact to break apart from it. Our uniqueness as a species gives us the opportunity to act beyond the natural order (which is expressly not an order set up by reason or ethics) and break the chain of violence, illusion and ignorance.
You’re absolutely right. It’s why I wish we didn’t have single family detached houses and remained in mixed use and multiple family housings. The goal is to stay within our means and avoid unnecessary consumptions if we (reasonably) can that cause unnecessary harm to others. Unfortunately for us to live we cannot do it without it pushing around nature a bit, but we can always do our best.
Sorry you feel this strongly about it. I’m not looking to antagonize you.
Well, it’s food for thought, that’s for sure. I will keep reviewing my compsumption habits. Nice chat.
leather is biodegradable and a byproduct of the meat industry
No, a lot of us don’t follow the exact same rules. The hard and fast rules are no animal product consumption of any kind, regardless of if the animal is dead. I eat a purely plant based diet and I buy everything in used condition as far as clothing goes. Some products unfortunately are hardier than others. Used leather products when cared for (Some like my belt I’ve had long before I ever went vegan) last lifetimes. For myself, I’d rather buy a used leather good that will outlast me and pass to the next person than buy a few dozen pleather items in my lifetime that will fall apart and pollute with microplastics (and on top of that pollute by the nature of it’s new production)
Veganism often crosses with environmentalism in which a lot of the times, hairs can be split on the "lesser of two evils". I don’t want to cause what I perceive to be unnecessary harm to animals when I can survive without their products, but I also don’t want to buy items for life and not contribute to fast and cheap fashion that will fall apart. Evangelical vegans (which I respect) will look down on that. But it is what it is. I also wear woolen sweaters because I’ve had them and for the aforementioned longevity issues above. They are unfortunately much higher quality than acrylic ever could be
What boots are those for real tho
get used leather boots, plastic is a plague
>vegan boot
If you’re concerned about supporting animal products just buy a vintage pair. Like everyone ITT said a real leather pair will be better for the environment and hold up way better.
I’m vegeterian and I’m perfectly fine with wearing leather goods.
Rate.
Just buy used leather boots.
>It still props up the leather industry
Sure, but you removing a used pair from a local economy isn’t going to do anything negatively impactful
>Wearing leather holds up the socially-calibrated desire for animal goods
I could wear mock leather/fur and people would still assume it’s real and then that would influence their purchases. I could eat a plant based burger and someone see it, not realize it’s fake and go oh I want a burger now. You are not responsible for the mindless consumerism of others.
I’ve been vegan for two years and I bought a secondhand pair of old docs last year. You take care of them and they last infinitely longer and cause less environmental suffering with an already long dead animal than you do the process and exploited labor of the individuals who recently produced the new vegan-compliant shoes you want. Pleather falls apart and microplastics are awful (assuming you care about that)
Man I’m glad I’m not vegan
I’m glad you’re not forced to be, it’s an individual choice
I think you should be killed by firing squad for holding degenerate unsustainable beliefs under the guise of environmentalism.
I wish you guys enough happiness one day that you don’t feel the need to act so miserable on an imageboard
you’re too pure for this hellhole
shut the heck up gay
https://www.ground-cover.com/collections/shop/products/4301-20-123?variant=40904181907621
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>vegan boots
god you guys are such pussy gays it’s unreal
Leather is based, vegans are cringe.
>I am personally responsible for the deaths of the animals I consume because it would be cringe to have principles that are difficult to uphold in common socialization
>I am personally responsible for the deaths of the animals I consume
Yes, that’s why I hunt. If you’re not willing to atleast once kill an animal to understand what goes into making meat for consumption then you shouldn’t eat meat while criticizing vegans. At least a vegan knows he can’t kill an animal and doesn’t pass that on to someone else.
Hunting doesn’t help you understand what goes into making the meat that you buy at the grocery store. I’m not the anon you’re replying to, I’m a random ruralfag. I hunt too, and I’ve worked in large scale agriculture. I don’t eat meat from the store, only what I hunt, which means I really don’t eat much meat. But it’s a sacrifice I’m happy to make because what goes into raising thousands of pigs for slaughter is utterly horrific, and disgusting. It’s not the killing part that I object to, when we kill those pigs it’s literally the best thing that ever happened to them. There’s a documentary called Dominion, you can find it on youtube. It’s 100% real, I’ve worked in places just like those and worse.
I’d never tell someone they shouldn’t eat meat, but don’t eat grocery store meat anon. If for nothing else, it’s pumped full of hormones and chemicals, and the massive scale of meat production always allows a lot of product to slip through the cracks health/safety wise
Kill your meat yourself, or buy meat from a trusted local small farm. Don’t buy the genetically enhanced, hormone pumped hebrewmeat at the wal-mart
I worked as a butcher which is what convinced me to abandon store bought meat as soon as I could. For me it was the amount of meat that’s just wasted and for what? It’s disgusting.
>What are the best vegan boots? I want to dress like the goose without compromising my values
who the heck eats boots
Donner Party core
God being attractive is the key to it all. Literally normal ass fit and if anything it’s worse cause he’s wearing a polo and he still looks based.
I hecking love the goose Bros
Waxed canvas boots, eg. palladiums.
Will’s make the best vegan leatherlike boots I know.
It’s petty strong pleather, yet breaks in fairly quick.
https://www.wills-vegan-store.co.uk/collections/vegan-mens-sustainable-fashion/products/vegan-chukka-boots-mens?variant=39851837030564
Buy a used pair. Vegan boots aren’t a thing. There are only boots and plastic boots. Don’t be a victim of marketing
you are a giant gay and you should be ashamed.
https://www.ground-cover.com/collections/shop/products/4301-20-123?variant=40904181678245
these are made from cactus
Lems
Don’t think I’m saying anything that hasn’t already been said, but I’m vegan and buy non vegan shoes second hand. To me there is no ethical problem with this. If I buy something new it’ll be mostly vegan and if that what you want I might tentatively recommend ahimsa or brave gentleman boots if you don’t mind spending a lot for something less durable. Really, I’m a cheap ass who likes getting a good value so thrift shoes everyday