25 thoughts on “what are some black leather shoes that are business casual but also are not overly narrow and uncomfortable to wear?

    • Anonymous says:

      boat is super casual
      horsebit/strap/penny loafers would be business casual

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      Boat shoes are similar to loafers but they have laces and the laces run around the shoe. They also have a different sole with thicker threading on the toes area. It’s these features that make them too casual. A penny loafer is about non-casual as you can get that is still appropriate for business casual, other than those hideous sort of sneaker-loafers that boomers wear that is. I wear penny loafers to my office 99% of the time, whether with khakis or a suit.

      Boat shoes are too casual. Black wingtips, black loafers, even black split toes would work.

      >that guy who unironically wears loafers to the office
      lmfao

      • Anonymous says:

        You better not be the guy who wears boat shoes to the office because you’re already the guy who posts SpongeBob memes.

        • Anonymous says:

          my boss dresses even more casually than I do, an untucked button up shirt, jeans, and sneakers
          join the 21st century, boomer. you don’t need to wear suit to the office anymore

          • Anonymous says:

            I know this will be hard to understand for a zoomer gay like yourself but certain businesses and offices around the world still have a dress code.

      • Anonymous says:

        yeah anyone in here is being super autistic re: the differences. no one gives a shit irl

        Boat shoes are similar to loafers but they have laces and the laces run around the shoe. They also have a different sole with thicker threading on the toes area. It’s these features that make them too casual. A penny loafer is about non-casual as you can get that is still appropriate for business casual, other than those hideous sort of sneaker-loafers that boomers wear that is. I wear penny loafers to my office 99% of the time, whether with khakis or a suit.

  1. Anonymous says:

    How narrow/wide the show is isn’t determined by the style but by the last. You can have extremely narrow boat shoes and extremely wide oxfords

  2. Anonymous says:

    I think the other guy responding to you in this thread is autistic. I have a relatively high end corporate job where people wear business casual unless doing client visits and boat shoes are extremely common in the office. The difference between boat shoes and the other shoes in this thread vary a bit. The real answer is the more simple and glossy the shoe, the more formal. Boat shoes are a little busy with the string bullshit and have an inherently more causal matte leather. You can find hybrids of all of these because they’re all for the most part just moc toe shoes.

    • Anonymous says:

      People get away with it in offices because most people are basically plebs that don’t know what they’re doing. If you wore boat shoes into the office a NYC asset management office or law firm or something you’d get laughed at for being a pleb or possibly even sent home. You certainly wouldn’t be allowed to meet clients. It’s stupid and elitist, but it’s about a standard which matters in some circles. So if you want to nail business casual, or business general really, just get some black and dark brown penny loafers and wear them most of the time. If you walk to work and there’s snow or rain on the ground, carry your loafers and wear some blundstones or something until you get to the office.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am a management consultant at a top 3 firm in a Manhattan office. Business casual is the norm and boat shoes are business casual. The senior partner in my practice wears boat shoes half the week and a polo shirt. Most lawyers don’t dress like they’re going to court everyday, or at least ours don’t. Bear in mind, while the clothes are “business casual,” they’re extremely expensive or bespoke. That partner wears a AP Royal Oak everyday and all his polo shirts are from Italy. Walking around I can tell you none of the guys in investment banking wear anything more sophisticated than a blue oxford, chinos, and their embarrassing Patagonia vests everyone makes memes about. If you’re wearing a suit, you’re probably a front desk attendant for an apartment building, or someone’s town car driver.

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