And when did you realize you weren't as smart as you thought you were?
What are signs of genuine high iq/intelligence?
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Solving major open problems? good place to start?
> flip flops
> socks
> long hair
> long beard
> male gender
> bad hygiene
> linux user
> obese or severely underweight
> spergy
> glasses
> part of radical leftist movements in the past or current
>Made up bullshit
gee I hate worthless LULZzophrenic college kiddies
>seething about getting called out in his own bait thread
lol, lmao even
I can't grow a beard and I hate wearing socks
ackshually I got a haircut a month ago
>Autists are smart
>Insecurity is smart
>Autism is smart
>Anger is smart
>Anger is smart
>Addiction is smart
Misanthropy and alcohol rule, you're just fucking gay dude
Straight. I'd wager I've had sex with more women than you.
Why would you lie on the internet?
A positive integer is greater than zero. That's not a lie.
No need to lie
In order to have sex one must lie with a woman.
Which you haven't done
Whatever helps you sleep at night hombre.
is sexual success a sign of high intelligence?
No. Sexual success is more of a sign of sociopathy than anything. Men who sleep with a lot of women tend to use manipulation/coercion either consciously or subconsciously to get what they want. Of course women are attracted to that, but the men who do it best do it instinctually rather than skillfully. The rapiness of it all trips up guys who can empathize with the girl.
But does that lead to actually higher reproducctive sccess? You might dsire mo0re offspring but thyeir individual survivability might lead to poorer reproductive fitness than a male who invested more in their offspring with a limited number of females?
Clearly the obvious solution would be cuckholdry but sensitivty to cheating and offspring recognition would temper it.
no nagger.
sleeping with a lot of women will only get you one more kid in exchange of both of them having a 1100% bigger chance of dying, human babies are born underdeveloped and even one day of not taking care of them can kill them and one person taking care of a kid causes them to fail completely thanks to how daunting the task is, it needs to be done for 10 years at least and women just have the specific job of feeding the baby for six months, something that is only an small part of caring a kid and women got helped by other women, most kids were separated by one year so this isn't even a concern or something that wastes the entire life.
this is the reason we have a gene ratio 1-1.26 for men and women.
reproductive success is based around the number of offspring you raise and if they reproduce, not on how many women you slept with, the only people who say otherwise use it to justify male infidelity and women infidelity by proxy.
cuckoldry just causes people to kill each other, even more when it's inefficient, destroys good gene propagation, causes diseases by lack of genetic diversity and destroys choice and thus the development of loving and caring relationships which are needed for good genetics and good child caring.
the kids of cucks die 1100% more, have awful diseases and in general aren't taken care by anyone, dying in the process.
kys cuck.
you deserve to live, telling people to die is bad and wrong.
stop being a cuck.
Kys bugman.
Don't forget virginity. Intelligence is highly correlated with virginity. Intelligent people are rare and have difficulty in establishing intimate relationships with lower IQ plebs. Intelligent folk also realize the meaningless of sex and choose to pursue higher pursuits. Bigger brains with bigger neocortexes helps with self-control and planning. Being a leftist is also a sign of high intelligence.
Uncertainty
I am very dumb.
Let's be honest, the most intelligent among us will have solved all issues regarding toilet paper and bathroom habits, to the same effective optimization.
So, find some high IQ individuals, survey them on how much toilet paper they use.
The true geniuses will have a number, and it will be consistent across all geniuses, as it will be the most optimized methodology.
Alright, now if you want to be 5-head, take that logic and apply it to any trait.
Find the commonality between geniuses, that they share, that you only find noise in the rest of the same data, for the rest of the populace.
Use that as a differentiator, and it can be more precise in it's identification than even direct IQ measurement methods, as it just takes into account a general high intelligence, enough to consciously or subconsciously optimize an every day task, that the average homo-sapien can not find optimization for, organically.
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The way to wipe using a single sheet of toilet paper is all in the prep. I'm talking about your diet. Eat a good balanced diet, plenty of fruit and greens but also meat and carbs too. Exercise is important, so is staying hydrated. Keeps everything moving.
Timing is also key, you need a schedule really. Be regular. Once a day is probably ideal, just find a time that works best for you.
Get comfortable and relax. NEVER STRAIN. Your body will tell you when it needs to go, you should listen to your gut.
When I'm living really really good, I can actually go through phases of doing shits that smoothly come out as one single healthy log that slides straight down the pipe, and then the paper comes up clean on the first wipe. I have to ask myself "did i even just shit?".
I'm serious too. It's fucking transcendent.
This anon knows his shit.
Shitting is real important. Everyone does it, we may as well enjoy it. Bad shits are the absolute worst, and nice shits are a good way of checking your general health.
Agreed, Anon. I'm a big fan of whole psyllium husk.
One piece when I pee. Why do men just shake their dick and then let the last drops stain their underwear and get crusty dried piss everywhere? Some kind of macho "oh, I can't use toilet paper when I piss like a woman!" nonsense, I suppose. Idiocy.
Five pieces when I poop/pee. Three are for sitting on top of the water so it doesn't splash as much, because my diet makes my shit basically into rocks and I'm raised up a little higher than normal in a squat position (the natural position for the human animal). One for the ass, folded into quarters with a glob of spit to form a wet-wipe (actual wet wipes do not dissolve in water and can clog your pipes), one again to dry the dick. On rare occasions I may need a second piece for the ass if it's a little dirtier than normal, but if it's more than that I'll just wash in the shower.
If I had a proper squat toilet and a bidet, I could eliminate TP altogether.
>136 IQ
>take like 15 minutes to wipe
Anon's, please help.
I mean, I get that I'm germaphobic, but is everybody just walking around with their asses full of shit?
On top of that, I have colitis and I take like 3 dumps a day minimum. So this has been an increasing problem.
You just smear shit around your ass?
>biday full power jet
>followed by shower and asshole soaping and rinsing
Cant believe i have to live on this planet with your shitty asscracks
These dry-ass people disgust me. Let's leave and start our own society of only people with truly clean assholes.
they surely don't post generic succesful man in a suit photos on the internet
They know a conclussion of a simulation done with the linux clock is invalid and need to be revisited
Signs of hig intelligence, two main types:
1 Observable intelligent behavior (performs well in intellectual challenges)
2 Correlations:
Big head (Head size correlates +0.2)
Big brain (+0.45)
Wears glasses is myopic (+0.25)
Has big pupils (+0.35)
Tall (height correlates with iq)
Healthy bodyweight (Low BMI correlates with iq)
Levels of education completed.
Amplitude of vocabulary.
No early marriages.
No illegitimate children.
Not big stretches out of work.
Never incarcelated.
Now you take the iq distribution of races and genders and you get your stereotype:
More likely to less likely
East Asian, ashkenazi israelite, caucasian, asian, african.
Male more likely than female (less variability in women).
So, you can use these correlations and characteristic to estimate if someone has high intelligence.
As for your question first year in college was brutal because it shattered my whole I can just study the night before mentality.
For the first time in my life I failed exams while people who looked up to me for help during class and doing exercises were doing fine.
The calculus teacher who saw me getting the highest grade in the class in a midterm and then almost fail the final exam called me after class one day and told me if I kept not putting any significant effort I wouldn't graduate but if I worked hard I had a shot of being at the top of the class.
I realized a lot of those kids were way smarter than me because they never had to be told that and still got higher grades than me.
I changed majors, lost touch with everyone and never saw that professor again, but I am really gratefull to him.
There was a girl in the class who about as smart or smarter than me and I believe she teaches engineering students now.
>I realized a lot of those kids were way smarter than me because they never had to be told that and still got higher grades than me.
You don't know that though. Everybody has their own issues that they need to overcome.
>For the first time in my life I failed exams while people who looked up to me for help during class and doing exercises were doing fine.
I hit that point in real analysis 1, but luckily I realized it in the first week.
The Hate towards everyone else
Hates naggers
This and drinks inbetween and after classes
Why it is so beautiful?
Old world charm
Big nose.
no degree
reads textbooks for pleasure
You think about how much you hate naggers 24/7 of course
Anyone that does extremely well in STEM without the need for any real studying. There was a guy like this at my college, guy would do the minimum and get high marks on his exams. So in other words, extremely high learning rate/retention.
Laziness
Quick test : if you can't point to at least 3 people in your social entourage that are smarter than you, you're a dumbfuck.
Wow, you must be a genius, since everyone both inside and outside your social entourage is clearly smarter than you
What made you feel so offended ? Did you think you were the smartest ?
No need to get so emotional. I was merely laughing at the fact that your criterion for intelligence is clearly both retarded and self-serving. It gives you a way to feel pride in your inferiority.
You can tell if someone is dumb within 5 minutes. But the difference between a semi smart person and a genius takes more time.
I think when you get into these IQ jerk offs though the character of a person matters more beyond a certain IQ level. I have met people with confirmed 140 IQ that were complete retards or autists outside of their area of interests and not at all enjoyable to be around a 115 IQ guy who works hard would be way more successful then them in life
IQ matter a lot within 1-2 SD away from the norm. Every IQ point is giving you thousands more a year but past 120 its not going to reliable make you better.
IQ has a diminishing returns effect think of a trait like height for example will a 6'1 guy really be much worse off then a 6'4 guy? Height would matter more the closer you are to the average and eventually it will stop having significant effects or even make you worse off.
Every inch taller then 5'9 will help you a lot but every inch smaller will hurt you same thing is true with IQ but this only applies when you are within 1-2 standard deviations of the norm
Lol well that's the only advantage IQ gives people in the rat race because those who are smart enough are too smart to play the game in the first place. Life is too short to only care about money and status. That is such a depressingly shallow way of viewing things.
Well I just meant that IQ won't inherently make your life better beyond a certain point. Wealth is a good metric but I suppose there are others.
Also I hate this notion that your too smart to play the game. If your so smart then find a way to make money quicker and retire at 30 on a farm...
I did
Well good on you then anon. But do you get what I meant? There are a lot of neets on LULZ claiming they are just too smart and deep to be apart of society.
People make excuses a lot that's my goal at least to get over a certain amount and retire on a farm with a wife and kids maybe some cattle too. If I need to also having some online stream of money to supplement every now and then
>There are a lot of neets on LULZ claiming they are just too smart and deep to be apart of society.
NTA but being a NEET and retiring to a farm at age 30 aren't mutually exclusive.
I think being a NEET and a retire can be very different. Most NEETs on LULZ aren't crypto millionaires they are dependent on their parents and they have very unhealthy lives.
This society sucks but I think being a poor NEET is worse unless if your parents are rich and give you money to live on your own then its really a shitty existence this is coming from an ex Hikikomori.
>I think being a NEET and a retire can be very different
They can be different, but they aren't necessarily different. If you're retired, you aren't in Employment, Education, or Training, so you're technically a NEET. There's also (in the US) the "work til 30 then collect social security disability payments" route, which results in NEETdom but is also compatible with owning a bit of rural land, or a place in the 'burbs - it's not millionaire, but it is retired, and significantly more comfortable than living in mom's basement.
I guess by definition they are but it is different if you worked to the point where you do not need to work anymore or can live off some income generating investment.
The neets I am referring to are completely dependent on their parents which is a bad existence unless your parents are very rich. You should also at least work a year just so you understand how bad it is then give up. If you don't even try then that is a bit shameful too.
Lol, I said too smart to participate in the rat race. That means giving up all of your time to make chump change from some employer because it's the only way you have of making money. You still have to make money somehow, and you can still be a part of society. But people who are smart enough will figure out how to make money with the least amount of effort.
I say that highly intelligent people are lazy because it's true. Laziness and intelligence go hand in hand. They try to find the most elegant solutions to problems, and they try to find the easiest way to make a living. They only work hard on things that matter to them. Sometimes that's making a lot of money. Usually it's not.
Yeah I have come to the conclusion that beyond a certain amount of money you are just wasting your time.
Depends on your goals if I didn't want a family I could probably already retire. But its much harder to be a complete minimalist with a family.
Once you realize you are working for a resource that our elites can print infinitely then you realize how worthless it is. Money is not true power it can go hand in hand with power but its not true power a banker working 80 hours a week with no life outside of work is a slave
>IQ matter a lot within 1-2 SD away from the norm
Will this always be the case? Say your average population was the equivalent of 2sd above or below the current reference frame?
In a what we would consider a 70 iq average population how does the 115 or higher fit in?
Well I mainly meant in Western or Asian countries where the average of somewhere around 100. For context 1 SD of IQ is about 15 points. If your 115 your already in around the top 20% give or take.
I am not completely sure if you are asking will this still apply to countries with low IQ average IQ?
>you are asking will this still apply to countries with low IQ average IQ?
Yes that is correct.
Well my point was targetting the very high iq 3sd+ group Since I thought that was the flow of your conversation, but we can incorporate the 2sd+ group since they make up a larger chunk of population.
I was curious how this might play out in a population with considerably higher or lower iq.
I can somewhat imagine how most of the 70 group would be illiterate so the capacity to simply read or interpret mildly complex instructions maybe as much as the ability ro remember to store food? I don't know what 70 Iq people are capable of so it's hard to really gauge. Years ago I saw a document here that presented the results of I think a carpet fitting survey and the number of people physically able to do somethig as simple as measure out how much carpet they would need for a room or other related tasks.
Well IQ distrubtions in the 3rd world would probably be a bit different. Since most high IQ people are apart of the wealthy upper classes.
Look at India for example the Brahmin class who primarily end up in the West are all relatively smart. But the average Indian is 85 IQ. So even within the 3rd world there still are often large demographics of smart people who form enclaves.
But your question is sort of difficult to answer
>But your question is sort of difficult to answer
Yes, I'm really scratching my head over how to figure it out.
I'm reminded of the scene in idiocracy where he escapes prison by saying he's actually meant to be getting out today not going in and the guard tells him to get in the other line.
It's obviously a ridiculous idea, how could a functional legal system even maintain itself in that state.
Well there's a reason societies tend to form around the mean IQ of its inhabitants.
Although even in places like India the Elite upper class still have many smart people. I think its more like that society will sort of have different castes wealthy people will live in 1st world areas and low IQ or poor people will live in slums. This the case in California today with many very smart or rich people being there but also areas with borderline 3rd world standards.
Just imagine Brazil but rich Elite enclaves still
But this elite group I assume would only be 2-3sd higher than the population unless they are entirely reproductively separated?
Well Brahmins in India are a separate race compared to other Indians they even have rules against caste systems marrying outside of this.
But your question like I said earlier takes a lot of speculation to answer and its not at all clear we will have to wait and see what happens.
I don't think idoicracy will occur because more then likely society would collapse and then competition would reoccur.
>This the case in California today with many very smart or rich people
you irrationally connect wealth with intelligence. the nba has a lot of rich people too, most of them couldn't learn how to read. of all of the great scientific discoveries in recent memory, which ones were made by people who were unusually wealthy? which ones were made by people of modest means?
Well wealth and IQ do correlate quite a bit the average self made millionaire is 118 IQ. Thats the top 20% of IQ. That would be like if a sport had an average height of 6'1 it would clearly mean height is a major correlation.
https://www.thehealthyjournal.com/faq/what-is-the-average-millionaire-iq
Also the reason I said smart was because silicon valley probably has a lot of abnormally smart people. IQ is certainly a huge factor how many 90 IQ people become basketball stars? But then how many 120 IQ people could end up in a white collar field like coding and save up a million after 10 years of working...
If those athletes had been born without significant talent they would be in retail or on welfare so its really luck and they are outliers. A 120 IQ person becoming a self made millionaire is not really an outlier situation
Now the tough question how succesful they are if they have no empathy
and is emotional intelligence useful for anything?
Being neurotypical is probably as important as IQ on some levels. An autistic person with 145 IQ will probably do worse then a very social hard working 115 IQ person.
These traits exist in a balance although its harder to measure these traits but I would assume they both matter to varying extents
learning is super easy for me.
i see people take notes for math and try hard at school while i can breeze by
Please learn how to study, even if you don't need to right now. Maybe it will help you in college, maybe you won't need it then either. But at some point not learning how to learn above your level will eventually limit you. Have the capability to put effective effort into learning so you don't give up when something finally challenges you.
The fact of the matter is that people with extreme, genius-like intelligence (160+ IQ) are completely different than people who are "high-IQ" (130-145 IQ).
People with high IQ's in the 130-145 range can be found in business, science, technology, music/creative work, etc. They are the "smart" and "gifted" people that everyone knows. These people tend to know a lot about or be good at one or two things.
Exceptionally intelligent (160+ IQ) people are a different breed. They are very rare, so you aren't likely to encounter them. When you do encounter them they are tricky to understand because they are so creative and original in their thinking. They don't typically have professions like "high-IQ" people because they think and learn too quickly for the pace of the work involved, which makes them easily bored and frustrated working in such environments.
They tend to appear lazy because they are not very interested in worldly things like status and prestige. They tend to have their own moral beliefs and not care what other people think. They tend to be very funny in an effortless way.
I only met one 150 IQ person and he was in an Ivy League program for Math.
I also attended an Ivy League and obtained a math degree. I didn't pursue education any further because I realized that the only thing that could come of it is a career in academia, and academia is gay as fuck.
I feel like at least in math things would be objective. Most of academia is utter shit beyond jumping through hoops like a well trained dog.
academia is gossip
sadly it's not objective
it's arbitrary, emotional bullshit
Yeah I would never do a PHD but I think undergrad may be worthwhile if you pair it with engineering or CS
Undergraduate is definitely worth it if you have a scholarship or a grant. Don't go into debt to pay for it. It's a once in a lifetime experience that you will never have again.
The problem with pursuing a career in academia as a mathematician is that the mathematics involved is extremely deep and difficult to understand regardless of one's intelligence. The material is so dense and requires so much time and effort to understand. The workload is just insane. You have to have a level of passion and commitment to your field that allows you to basically forego anything else in life. I met a lot of graduate students studying math, and none of them really had a life outside of pursuing that degree. Then they would have to move to some random city for postgrad then from city to city for work at random universities until they could finally hope to land a tenured position somewhere. It is a difficult life only fit for someone who loves math so much that he doesn't care about anything else. I could never do that myself. Seeing firsthand what it means to get a PhD and pursue a career like this was an eye-opening experience that changed my outlook on life and what I wanted to do after college.
Yeah I don't really want to go to grad school so probably would either not take math or pair it with engineering. I for sure don't want to be in academia my whole life
white skin
Intelligence literally doesn't matter. It's completely irrelevant to success. What matters is discipline, resilience, emotional maturity, real talking/listening skills, honesty, and presentability.
Without those things, "intelligence" past a certain point becomes a liability. And that point is relatively quite low.
When I was in elementary school there was a boy who was genuinely smart. At first I thought he was simply a nerd and that's why he got good grades, but from what I can recall today, I don't think this was the only thing going on for him. Even when dealing with a new situation, that person was quick to get a grasp of the situation and give a coherent response. He had excellent memory and clear thinking, so it wasn't only a matter of acquiring and storing information well, that person also processed the information well. That said, I didn't like him because he was an asshole. There was also a girl, but she struck me as the type that just studiest a lot and isn't genuinely high iq.
During my college days I've also met at least 2 people that I'd consider to be genuinely smart. One was a friend that was interested in philosophy and the other was an older woman in her 30s. Both had similar patterns to what I previously mention: good memory, fast thinking and were particularly good at processing information. Eventually I dated the girl, but she dumped me.
Then again in grad school, there was another guy. He was still and undergrad but was attending to the classes, and he was leagues above literally everyone else. This one was probably smarter than the previous ones. Extremely fast thinking and way ahead of the curve. One could assume he just had studied more math than the rest, which is true, but again, even when dealing with new stuff he was quick to understand it and process the information well. There was also female colleague who was also genuinely intelligent, albeit not as smart as the guy I previously mentioned.
I also had a few professors who were clearly high IQ, but it's harder to assess because of the gap in knowledge between me and them and the fact I didn't get to know them well.
Aside from what I already said, a common trait in most of them is that they all did some pretty retarded life choices, like changing majors multiple times and stuff.
What are these people doing now? Did they peak in academia? Did they ever publish anything great?
Only one of them stayed in the academia. The smartest one works with finance. The others have alright jobs.
As for very high intelligence, the biggest marker is effortlessness. They kinda just glide through all the tasks of their life without seeming to notice or care. They often appear like they aren't paying attention, because they can do tasks that take most people all their mind with only a small fraction. Probably, they're thinking about several other things at once, while accomplishing tasks almost by rote.
The difference between a person of high intelligence and one of average is like the difference between an adult and a young child. Think about a problem that would be relatively simple for you to solve, effortlessly, and handing that to a six-year-old. Oh sure, they might get it right eventually, but they'll have to struggle with it for a while. That's what everyone else looks like when you're of very high intelligence. Problems you encounter day-to-day that other people struggle with seem so simple and easy for you to solve that you barely even need to consider it. You wonder why the fuck they were incapable of seeing the solution.
A person like this will grasp things immediately, and master them extremely quickly. It doesn't matter what it is; it doesn't have to be something academic or cerebral. Put a new video game in front of them, and they'll have played it to its logical extreme in a week or two. Drag them to a frat party for their first time ever, and they will dominate every party game there from the beer pong to the charades, despite just learning how to do it five minutes ago. Hand them a broken machine and they'll figure out what's wrong in minutes and know how to fix it. Present them a logistical or spatial challenge and they'll crack it right away.
A very intelligent person isn't a Hollywood Genius. They don't go around applying calculus to every problem and quoting physicists. Your reaction to them would probably be, "How on Earth are you so good at EVERYTHING?"
disliking computer games and other repetitive pastimes
>not browsing LULZ
>not worrying about some arbitrary metrics
>not being such a colossal insecure homosexual with a ego as to always try and compare yourself to other monkeys
There is your answer OP, straight strike out in your case
High IQs are overhyped. High IQs will get you far in life, but its not as good as people think it is. Somebody could have $10 million in lottery winnings and have an iq of 94, while someone that has an iq of 150 is broke. Which one if better off?