I would think very low until you reached a point of cost effectiveness and mass production. Lose a soldier on the battlefield and you are out some rando rank and file + cost of training + gear.
That thing gets stuck or slightly knocked over you are out millions that can be reused.
I think these things are supposed to be force multipliers and not replacement for soldiers.
>government spends 500 quadrillion dollars making it immune to all damage even nuking it directly wont hurt it >sprays paint over the camera
its easier to destroy than to create. us humans are destruction demons and if they make us act that way, it will be easy and it will be fun
I would think very low until you reached a point of cost effectiveness and mass production. Lose a soldier on the battlefield and you are out some rando rank and file + cost of training + gear.
That thing gets stuck or slightly knocked over you are out millions that can be reused.
>The purpose of war is to sell expensive shit and make money
Why do you think all of the "money" we give Israel every year is contractually obligated to be spent on US weapons?
They don't get "money" btw they get gift certificates to buy weapons or jets from the US military industrial complex. They can't use it for ANYTHING else, not even fuel.
This is why our politicians keep mindlessly saying "praise israel!"
It has nothing to do with religion, it's a bunch of paid off politicians.
This is why no other country in the world gives them "aid", despite Europe having more Christians.
That's not entirely true, US aid to Israel takes a lot of forms. For example they can borrow from US banks at reduced interest to invest in housing, infrastructure, whatever, and the difference in interest is paid for by the US taxpayer. You're right though, most of the US aid does benefit the MIC, but at the end of the day it's still the US taxpayer footing the bill.
>For example they can borrow from US banks at reduced interest to invest in housing, infrastructure, whatever, and the difference in interest is paid for by the US taxpayer
The subsidized interest paid by US taxpayers is going back into US economy via US banks though. Israel does not get that money, it's just a discount... a little off the tip.
This still categorically falls under the idea israel "gets no money" from US. The only thing they can "spend" at their discretion are gift certificates for US weapons. >inb4 israelites still get it because US banks are israeli
lol sure but not the point
The point is /misc/ needs to be more specific in how israelites are scheming us and which non israeli groups in the US are profiting by doing so. The average retarded anon thinks US gives them cash money because evangelicals love them so much. That is not true at all. We give them weapons because MIC (along with plenty of israelites controlling MIC) has paid off our politicians.
That's not entirely true, US aid to Israel takes a lot of forms. For example they can borrow from US banks at reduced interest to invest in housing, infrastructure, whatever, and the difference in interest is paid for by the US taxpayer. You're right though, most of the US aid does benefit the MIC, but at the end of the day it's still the US taxpayer footing the bill.
I mean you're partially correct but it doesn't explain the Israel obsession. If this was the main driver then they'd do this with every country they can. They only do it with Israel as standard practice.
>If this was the main driver then they'd do this with every country they can
They do: there's only one country where they can...
How many other countries spend $900 billion a year on the military?
None
No other country has a military industrial complex. It's just a US thing.
US has stared 80% of the wars in the last century, and has been involved in wars even more.
China and Russia have no private ownership of military contracting companies. The companies don't need to pay off politicians for government spending, they ARE the government.
The point is automatic targeting is good enough nowadays it doesn't need to move much. Think of it as a moving turret you place it where you want an if any baddies get close it blows them up.
>$10 esp32 and 433mhz tx/rx boards >$10 soldering iron >$10 webcam >$30 2x servo motor >$50 of sheet metal >$50 stick welder >$50 electric motor >$50 go-kart wheels >$100 battery >$100 gun
it only costs ~~*millions*~~ when your country is israeliteed to the core.
the funny thing is there are shithole countries starting to crank out 50 dollar drones in large numbers now. so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/30/1067348/mass-market-military-drones-have-changed-the-way-wars-are-fought/
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/11/06/from-hypersonic-missiles-to-undersea-drones-the-pla-is-making-leaps
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/14/7428651/
It'll be interesting to see how US military bases respond to getting droned. Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it. Your typical American soldier, while waiting in line at the base's Mc Donalds, isn't going to like randomly having a grenade dropped on his head from a $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius by fuck knows who. The US can't force project if it's forced to squirrel everything away into trenches, if you leave your F-22s, B-2's etc out in the open and it gets taken out by a little robot making a hole in the wing, you're fucked if that happens enough. Your casualties are nothing but you start running out of the resources you need for air support, your entire doctrine goes out. >Yeah we know your training involved using air support but uh, we ran out of planes soooo... good luck?
But building millions of the drones themselves isn't going to work, because it isn't like Achmed is hiding his Su-27 with his goats for you to send your drones to take out to deny him air support. You don't even know if Achmed is sending drones out in the first place.
a bubble of drones floating around waiting for enemy drones to blow up at
I've thought about both of those, and they might be possible, but I don't think so. Directed energy weapons are in their infancy and tracking and taking down a toy drone without mistaking, for example, the COs head, is very difficult.
Some sort of guardian swarm is also difficult to implement. I guess they idea would be that if they perceive anything approaching they intercept and detonate, again that detection and identification is difficult. Both of these ideas are theoreticals, while grenades strapped on to shit you can buy from a supermarket is a reality. They need to get whatever countermeasure tech working before going into whatever the next conflict will be or it'll end badly, but I don't think they've actually thought about that. I think the solution is a complete change in doctrine. Military bases as a way to force project are going to be a thing of the past.
The really based thing is that if you imported a fifth column for a cheap workforce over the last 30 or so years, that decentralized easy access warfare comes home.
>Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone
Firstly, yes they most definitely are. They can hit incoming mortars traveling hundreds of times faster and they are smaller.
2ndly, wash out civilian radio frequencies used to control them. That would eliminate 99.99% of the belligerents who would use them. The remaining 0.01% with the electrical engineering know-how to make them operate on another frequency band would probably be busy doing other stuff.
Anything beyond "toy" level would still rely on electronic warfare tactics, ie frequency skipping and all that.
It'll be interesting to see how US military bases respond to getting droned. Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it. Your typical American soldier, while waiting in line at the base's Mc Donalds, isn't going to like randomly having a grenade dropped on his head from a $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius by fuck knows who. The US can't force project if it's forced to squirrel everything away into trenches, if you leave your F-22s, B-2's etc out in the open and it gets taken out by a little robot making a hole in the wing, you're fucked if that happens enough. Your casualties are nothing but you start running out of the resources you need for air support, your entire doctrine goes out. >Yeah we know your training involved using air support but uh, we ran out of planes soooo... good luck?
But building millions of the drones themselves isn't going to work, because it isn't like Achmed is hiding his Su-27 with his goats for you to send your drones to take out to deny him air support. You don't even know if Achmed is sending drones out in the first place.
Oh yes, drones are certainly easily intercepted, but if you're not using them in a swarm you're using them wrong. Of course anti-air can take a drone, but not a hundred before one strike (which might not even be enough, but just keep swarming) and the drone side will still be on a cost advantage
Toy drones problem is solved by just jamming. The moment they get into range they drop due to no control from operator. Only inconvenience in such scenario is having enough jammers and people to turn them on/off and relocate at short intervals because jamming is simply shitposting radio waves and if you are sending radio signals out, doesn't matter if it's radar, drone control antenna or jammer, you can get detected and shelled by artillery. At least that's what happens on Ukraine right now. Only drones that operate in such conditions are ones with jamming detection mechanism which is simply hardcoded procedure of changing trajectory to increase distance the moment drone detects problems with control signal or someone is trying to fry them. Also those which can have route programmed because then even if you lose control, it should be able to continue on pre-planned route which should include coming back.
Notice how a single sandnagger managed to absolutely btfod an entire US army base all by himself.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/11/05/the-mass-shooting-at-fort-hood-was-10-years-ago-on-nov-5-2009/
literally this, they're simple except for the aiming servos
the funny thing is there are shithole countries starting to crank out 50 dollar drones in large numbers now. so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/30/1067348/mass-market-military-drones-have-changed-the-way-wars-are-fought/
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/11/06/from-hypersonic-missiles-to-undersea-drones-the-pla-is-making-leaps
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/14/7428651/
>so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
pic related is finally beginning
What do you mean? They're extremely cost effective. You could build one at home from readily available parts and for less than people spend on all sorts of hobbies.
In Gundams defense, their generators create "waves" that bork the signals of tracking weapons. That's why almost every weapon they use are dumbfire guns and rockets. Once missles enter this shield the suit generates, they become blind and all it has to do is keep moving.
Once you get close enough to it, your RC weapon just stops working.
An IRL mech could use similar jamming devices to thwart tracking weapons.
From the looks of it it's essentially an rc portable mounted medium MG. Depending on the caliber that box can hold a few hundred rounds, so it can suppress for a few minutes or serve as a deterrent. I doubt it's effective at room clearing or anything like that.
>I reckon you could jam their reception pretty easily and reclaim them.
End War videogame showed a good solution to this, you have one command vehicle flanked by a bunch of drones that have limited autonomy and are essentialy bodyguards to the command post. This is the only shit I see working and could probably use more foolproof anti-jamming equipment. Same thing the US airforce does with that loyal wingman shit. One plane with stealh capabilities and 2-3 drones who actually sling the missiles and bombs and protect the pilot at all costs.
the funny thing is there are shithole countries starting to crank out 50 dollar drones in large numbers now. so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/30/1067348/mass-market-military-drones-have-changed-the-way-wars-are-fought/
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/11/06/from-hypersonic-missiles-to-undersea-drones-the-pla-is-making-leaps
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/14/7428651/
>copying the enemy instead of using foolproof concepts that already work
These are all RC drones, jamming the fuck out of them would work. People get all worked up with their drone swarm fiction fantasies, disregarding any pragmatic approach.
It'll be interesting to see how US military bases respond to getting droned. Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it. Your typical American soldier, while waiting in line at the base's Mc Donalds, isn't going to like randomly having a grenade dropped on his head from a $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius by fuck knows who. The US can't force project if it's forced to squirrel everything away into trenches, if you leave your F-22s, B-2's etc out in the open and it gets taken out by a little robot making a hole in the wing, you're fucked if that happens enough. Your casualties are nothing but you start running out of the resources you need for air support, your entire doctrine goes out. >Yeah we know your training involved using air support but uh, we ran out of planes soooo... good luck?
But building millions of the drones themselves isn't going to work, because it isn't like Achmed is hiding his Su-27 with his goats for you to send your drones to take out to deny him air support. You don't even know if Achmed is sending drones out in the first place.
> $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius >Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it.
The MIC actually needs to put in work instead of producing NEXT LEVEL CANCEROUS SUPER WUNDERWAFFE for 600 billion. These grifting cunts will have to repurpose some of their budgets and look at those Rheinmetall SHORAD point defense systems, miniaturize them (if necessary) and slave them to high rate of fire machineguns or miniguns. This shit is all incredibly novel and it just boils down to doctrine and political decision making. All they need to do is take existing shit and re-purpose it. They'll have to mix magic BVR-AA shit with VSHORAD solutions. Israeli's already showed everyone how not to intercept shitty WW2 tier missiles with guided missiles, you just need to sling some lead downrange.
It wont be land based. It's far easier to travel in consistant air than an ever changing terrain. Technology that can bounce/reorient drones into the air will solve issues of them getting downed (which is rare anyway). Usually the first tech tree to get unlocked is the one that people stick with because its the easiest
I could see it being useful if deployed in droves to just surround a fortified area and wait the enemy out, assuming they're stealthy.
I don't see much use for them on rough terrain, or in urban environments full of obstacles, where they'd get picked off easy.
This isn’t “next-gen”. It’s a useless budget-sponge created by repackaging an old idea in a new, more expensive form factor, with the intent to give the illusion of innovation to clueless boomer generals.
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
Free robot parts/weapons crate mobile delivery to your door, all you have to do is say the gamer word (nagger)!
>Free robot parts/weapons crate mobile delivery to your door, all you have to do is say the gamer word (nagger)!
this fren gets it
won't be getting hilux unfortunately but pew pew maker supply crates
it's fucked.
even a zogbot might have a soul somewhere deep inside.
a robot has zero remorse, zero hesitation - just an automaton responding instantaneously to every order
Why the rotary barrel on that puny of a robot?
I know it looks cool but it doesn’t have enough ammunition capacity to make good use of a rotary barrel setup.
Yea, not sure how that makes sense logistically. Maybe just an intimidation and morale thing. Or they'll just never go far enough or be used long enough for it to matter. There is always that too. The big dogs can afford to me a little less economical and use things a bit differently.
This thing will never actually see deployment, it's a mock up slapped together to show off to investors to keep SIG's stock price up. MIC companies whip this shit out all the time.
Same thing with the dogs that everyone memes over, they're both retarded. The future of drones are fliers and little cars that kamikaze attack. Little cars that kamikaze have already been used by police in the US.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-dallas-robot-20160708-snap-story.html
What about wheels and caterpillars beign not covered in protective sheets of steel? What about little battery capacity? What about reloading and targetting that thin neck homosexualry?
you know they can't actually see through stuff right? not even glass. live operators can only suspect your whereabouts based on the temp of the structure your in, if your hiding
thermal is good for moving/fleeing targets that are not thermal shielding themselves in some way. a regular umbrella can hide your thermal signature as it's not directly against your body and absorbing your body heat. good for drones. future drone defense might be umbrellas with local camouflage or some type of lenticular sheeting.
the point is if your relatively quick you could absolutely Snake it in a box that is the same temp as your surroundings
And how many of the components in that tank rely on global supply chains to be manufactured that are likely to become much more unstable in the near future?
>robot controlled by humans sent to annihilate humans >robot controlled by humans sent to fight other robot >missile strikes against operation centers become fair game >controlling the robots becomes dangerous >automation of robots explored >other side automates too >need more advanced AI to automate your robots to defeat the other side's smart robots >create large, hyper intelligent force of killer robots >lose control of the AI >robots turn on their handlers and annihilate humanity
like that
The cost of war goes up.
After all the human soldier, retarded though he might be, is still the equivalent of a versatile self-healing supercomputer built to last in most environments this earth features.
The only reason you would want a robot is for propaganda purposes, avoiding human casualties or fighting in inhuman conditions like outer space.
>super fucking fragile
Those are super fragile. I got chinese M41 Bulldog tonk on RC, which have not any outside of hull wirings. It is were ocasionally dropped, kicked, i have played with it for years, removed original RC, made my own, it still moving with all parts.
Those are super fragile because ~~*humans*~~ are still afraid of RC teletonks.
I wasted tens of dollars in 1993 money on the Terminator 2 rail shooter game. After that, I spent even more REAL money beating Time Crisis 2 multiple times.
I can shoot robots in completely formulaic fashion, easily. It's me vs. the big tech pajeet shit naggers, that I hate. I will win.
If not manufactured en-masse, completely worthless. Cheap drones used as improvised munitions are way more effective because they're cheap enough to be used en-masse. Whomever is not doing the same is just funelling taxpayer money for contractors.
if this thin necked homosexualry ever gets deployed it'd be used as a force multiplier and thus embedded in an infantry squad
I mean, you could spray paint their goggles, I guess...
these things will be controlled remotely by some whore sitting in a cushy office miles away while men get blasted away >*teehee I'm a war veteran sweety xD* *presses button*
those things need self-destruction capabilities just in case it breaks down in the middle of war or battle and then it ends up in the hands of the enemy.
weve seen so many "AI´s going rouge" headlines in the past few years that I dont think the great uprising will be as dire as you try to paint it.
It will most likely be AI trying to eradicate israel and every genetic trace of the israeli ppl.
dats a fact
Why weren't RC vehicles being used 30 years ago? We had the tech to remove 90% of soldiers from the line of fire decades ago.....but the satanic forever war israelite needed his blood sacrafice.
I have seen vids of an hostile sand nagger sniper doming some poor zog bot shmuck because some retarded, possibly black or brown superior officer told him to stand still in a watchtower and guard a corner of the fob...... Why the fuck can that not be done by a 400 dollar go pro on a 1200 dollar gun and a 2000 dollar turret/gimbal system while the operator is in a safe location eating Doritos? Why do young men need to die for Israel when we are more than capable of constructing robotic golems to do the synagogue of Satan's biding?
The only reason is because retarded hicks signed up for below minimum wage to serve the army for near free for decades at their total physical and psychological detriment, because they thought war was fun and cool and came with a superiority badge. Nowadays people see real images and video and know 99% of what a modern battlefield is like and stay the fuck away at all costs.
So, now they're just doing what they could have done decades ago, but didn't because in the end they don't care about you the people. They care about money and costs.
It's like it has always been, they would never give soldiers armor or good pay or proper equipment like they did before the pure evil of the nation state manifested itself. They didn't even give naval soldiers fucking helmets for ages. They didn't even give men helmets until WWI after the nation state manifested.
To the nation state you are just draft meat that wields a weapon and presses buttons/pulls triggers. You don't need anything more than the bare minimum according to your gay and fake "nation."
they should make extremely low profile gun robots, ideally low enough to hide in grass, maybe even shaped like an assault gun, except preferably wheeled for simplicity, built from as many already available parts as possible. Designed to be cheap and thoroughly expendable, no armor, and too light to trigger mines, ideally with quiet slow motors and simple improvised weapons attached (like a pipe gun). intended for costless probing attacks against entrenched positions. The idea being they are hard to notice, and even if you do find them, they are too expensive to waste artillery on.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon_(episode)
Yes, you could say aTASTE
that toy isn't next generation, some people have this shit in the garage already.
>government spends 500 quadrillion dollars making it immune to all damage even nuking it directly wont hurt it
>sprays paint over the camera
its easier to destroy than to create. us humans are destruction demons and if they make us act that way, it will be easy and it will be fun
>its easier to destroy than to create
True, but why you keep saying this?
It's also why it is better to be for something than against.
I would think very low until you reached a point of cost effectiveness and mass production. Lose a soldier on the battlefield and you are out some rando rank and file + cost of training + gear.
That thing gets stuck or slightly knocked over you are out millions that can be reused.
I think these things are supposed to be force multipliers and not replacement for soldiers.
This
Why waste 4 men to clear a barricaded enemy when you can send a rc killbot from a safe position
I don't nknow. They should test it in Gaza to make sure it works.
Because 4 drafted retards are cheaper.
The purpose of war is to sell expensive shit and make money. Being impractical or effective is irrelevant.
>The purpose of war is to sell expensive shit and make money
Why do you think all of the "money" we give Israel every year is contractually obligated to be spent on US weapons?
They don't get "money" btw they get gift certificates to buy weapons or jets from the US military industrial complex. They can't use it for ANYTHING else, not even fuel.
This is why our politicians keep mindlessly saying "praise israel!"
It has nothing to do with religion, it's a bunch of paid off politicians.
This is why no other country in the world gives them "aid", despite Europe having more Christians.
>Receive goods for free, allowing your budget to be spent elsewhere
>This is somehow not being given money
A gift certificate is not money you midwit.
>For example they can borrow from US banks at reduced interest to invest in housing, infrastructure, whatever, and the difference in interest is paid for by the US taxpayer
The subsidized interest paid by US taxpayers is going back into US economy via US banks though. Israel does not get that money, it's just a discount... a little off the tip.
This still categorically falls under the idea israel "gets no money" from US. The only thing they can "spend" at their discretion are gift certificates for US weapons.
>inb4 israelites still get it because US banks are israeli
lol sure but not the point
The point is /misc/ needs to be more specific in how israelites are scheming us and which non israeli groups in the US are profiting by doing so. The average retarded anon thinks US gives them cash money because evangelicals love them so much. That is not true at all. We give them weapons because MIC (along with plenty of israelites controlling MIC) has paid off our politicians.
That's not entirely true, US aid to Israel takes a lot of forms. For example they can borrow from US banks at reduced interest to invest in housing, infrastructure, whatever, and the difference in interest is paid for by the US taxpayer. You're right though, most of the US aid does benefit the MIC, but at the end of the day it's still the US taxpayer footing the bill.
I mean you're partially correct but it doesn't explain the Israel obsession. If this was the main driver then they'd do this with every country they can. They only do it with Israel as standard practice.
>If this was the main driver then they'd do this with every country they can
They do: there's only one country where they can...
How many other countries spend $900 billion a year on the military?
None
No other country has a military industrial complex. It's just a US thing.
US has stared 80% of the wars in the last century, and has been involved in wars even more.
China and Russia have no private ownership of military contracting companies. The companies don't need to pay off politicians for government spending, they ARE the government.
Why do you think this shit will be ineffective? One of these is like having a sniper machine gun that can headshot 10 targets in a split second.
>a sniper
>this fucking thing bumbling through the undergrowth like a dunk nagger
The point is automatic targeting is good enough nowadays it doesn't need to move much. Think of it as a moving turret you place it where you want an if any baddies get close it blows them up.
>$10 esp32 and 433mhz tx/rx boards
>$10 soldering iron
>$10 webcam
>$30 2x servo motor
>$50 of sheet metal
>$50 stick welder
>$50 electric motor
>$50 go-kart wheels
>$100 battery
>$100 gun
it only costs ~~*millions*~~ when your country is israeliteed to the core.
the funny thing is there are shithole countries starting to crank out 50 dollar drones in large numbers now. so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/30/1067348/mass-market-military-drones-have-changed-the-way-wars-are-fought/
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/11/06/from-hypersonic-missiles-to-undersea-drones-the-pla-is-making-leaps
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/14/7428651/
It'll be interesting to see how US military bases respond to getting droned. Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it. Your typical American soldier, while waiting in line at the base's Mc Donalds, isn't going to like randomly having a grenade dropped on his head from a $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius by fuck knows who. The US can't force project if it's forced to squirrel everything away into trenches, if you leave your F-22s, B-2's etc out in the open and it gets taken out by a little robot making a hole in the wing, you're fucked if that happens enough. Your casualties are nothing but you start running out of the resources you need for air support, your entire doctrine goes out.
>Yeah we know your training involved using air support but uh, we ran out of planes soooo... good luck?
But building millions of the drones themselves isn't going to work, because it isn't like Achmed is hiding his Su-27 with his goats for you to send your drones to take out to deny him air support. You don't even know if Achmed is sending drones out in the first place.
Directed energy. We already have high energy lasers on vehicles the size of a Polaris.
I've thought about both of those, and they might be possible, but I don't think so. Directed energy weapons are in their infancy and tracking and taking down a toy drone without mistaking, for example, the COs head, is very difficult.
Some sort of guardian swarm is also difficult to implement. I guess they idea would be that if they perceive anything approaching they intercept and detonate, again that detection and identification is difficult. Both of these ideas are theoreticals, while grenades strapped on to shit you can buy from a supermarket is a reality. They need to get whatever countermeasure tech working before going into whatever the next conflict will be or it'll end badly, but I don't think they've actually thought about that. I think the solution is a complete change in doctrine. Military bases as a way to force project are going to be a thing of the past.
a bubble of drones floating around waiting for enemy drones to blow up at
Decentralized easy-access warfare is based
The really based thing is that if you imported a fifth column for a cheap workforce over the last 30 or so years, that decentralized easy access warfare comes home.
>Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone
Firstly, yes they most definitely are. They can hit incoming mortars traveling hundreds of times faster and they are smaller.
2ndly, wash out civilian radio frequencies used to control them. That would eliminate 99.99% of the belligerents who would use them. The remaining 0.01% with the electrical engineering know-how to make them operate on another frequency band would probably be busy doing other stuff.
Anything beyond "toy" level would still rely on electronic warfare tactics, ie frequency skipping and all that.
Oh yes, drones are certainly easily intercepted, but if you're not using them in a swarm you're using them wrong. Of course anti-air can take a drone, but not a hundred before one strike (which might not even be enough, but just keep swarming) and the drone side will still be on a cost advantage
Toy drones problem is solved by just jamming. The moment they get into range they drop due to no control from operator. Only inconvenience in such scenario is having enough jammers and people to turn them on/off and relocate at short intervals because jamming is simply shitposting radio waves and if you are sending radio signals out, doesn't matter if it's radar, drone control antenna or jammer, you can get detected and shelled by artillery. At least that's what happens on Ukraine right now. Only drones that operate in such conditions are ones with jamming detection mechanism which is simply hardcoded procedure of changing trajectory to increase distance the moment drone detects problems with control signal or someone is trying to fry them. Also those which can have route programmed because then even if you lose control, it should be able to continue on pre-planned route which should include coming back.
Notice how a single sandnagger managed to absolutely btfod an entire US army base all by himself.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/11/05/the-mass-shooting-at-fort-hood-was-10-years-ago-on-nov-5-2009/
Dumb. Jamming the drone signal is better.
literally this, they're simple except for the aiming servos
>so the US is very likely going to shift to mass producing fucking swarms of these things to maintain an advantage
pic related is finally beginning
+$10m boeing lockmart sig tip and gets jammed by any retard who can whip up a spark gapper in his garage
Obviously military grade items are made from better components but everything is still a few dozen times overpriced.
You could probably make the thing in the picture for 5.000$
I ll never understand how tans are tens of millions when they could probably be made for 2 million $ even if you include all the gadgets
What do you mean? They're extremely cost effective. You could build one at home from readily available parts and for less than people spend on all sorts of hobbies.
Each deployed US servicemember costs well over $100k per year between pay, training, the gear, and housing them.
They also serve a useful function of keeping young men from doing anything threatening or uncontrolled through golden cuffs.
I always knew that legos were for scumbags.
>filtered by Technics
>gets shot by a robocop terminator
Such is life
Let me know when my Gundam suit is ready.
This.
Nay, Gundams are retardation. RC tonks are good, RC swarm drones are good, RC grenade cars are good.
Robot suit are just retardation.
In Gundams defense, their generators create "waves" that bork the signals of tracking weapons. That's why almost every weapon they use are dumbfire guns and rockets. Once missles enter this shield the suit generates, they become blind and all it has to do is keep moving.
Once you get close enough to it, your RC weapon just stops working.
An IRL mech could use similar jamming devices to thwart tracking weapons.
From the looks of it it's essentially an rc portable mounted medium MG. Depending on the caliber that box can hold a few hundred rounds, so it can suppress for a few minutes or serve as a deterrent. I doubt it's effective at room clearing or anything like that.
2A means I get one.
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
Getting btfo'd by fpv drones
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
don't feel bad when you kill them for one
I reckon you could jam their reception pretty easily and reclaim them. Surprised at how piddly it is. Looks very easy to damage or trap.
>I reckon you could jam their reception pretty easily and reclaim them.
End War videogame showed a good solution to this, you have one command vehicle flanked by a bunch of drones that have limited autonomy and are essentialy bodyguards to the command post. This is the only shit I see working and could probably use more foolproof anti-jamming equipment. Same thing the US airforce does with that loyal wingman shit. One plane with stealh capabilities and 2-3 drones who actually sling the missiles and bombs and protect the pilot at all costs.
>copying the enemy instead of using foolproof concepts that already work
These are all RC drones, jamming the fuck out of them would work. People get all worked up with their drone swarm fiction fantasies, disregarding any pragmatic approach.
> $200 robot launched from some village in a 50 mile radius
>Anti-air, CIWS, etc, isn't capable of taking out a low flying toy drone with a grenade strapped to it.
The MIC actually needs to put in work instead of producing NEXT LEVEL CANCEROUS SUPER WUNDERWAFFE for 600 billion. These grifting cunts will have to repurpose some of their budgets and look at those Rheinmetall SHORAD point defense systems, miniaturize them (if necessary) and slave them to high rate of fire machineguns or miniguns. This shit is all incredibly novel and it just boils down to doctrine and political decision making. All they need to do is take existing shit and re-purpose it. They'll have to mix magic BVR-AA shit with VSHORAD solutions. Israeli's already showed everyone how not to intercept shitty WW2 tier missiles with guided missiles, you just need to sling some lead downrange.
It wont be land based. It's far easier to travel in consistant air than an ever changing terrain. Technology that can bounce/reorient drones into the air will solve issues of them getting downed (which is rare anyway). Usually the first tech tree to get unlocked is the one that people stick with because its the easiest
Looks like shit, ngl
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I could see it being useful if deployed in droves to just surround a fortified area and wait the enemy out, assuming they're stealthy.
I don't see much use for them on rough terrain, or in urban environments full of obstacles, where they'd get picked off easy.
Invention of liquid metal
This isn’t “next-gen”. It’s a useless budget-sponge created by repackaging an old idea in a new, more expensive form factor, with the intent to give the illusion of innovation to clueless boomer generals.
i frequent LULZ and LULZ these things dont bother me cause im pretty sure i can capture one and turn it into an automated security turret
now post the webm of the ai chatbot that roamed around nagger neighbourhoods
fuck yea mechanized wall-e
EVE is more SEEEEX as egg.
My Sig Sauer but my Swisher Sweet
>Explosively pumped emp device set off nearby
>Toy has been rendered unusable
Or just wide spectrum jamming
I knew johnny 5 wouldn't look as friendly irl
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
Free robot parts/weapons crate mobile delivery to your door, all you have to do is say the gamer word (nagger)!
>Free robot parts/weapons crate mobile delivery to your door, all you have to do is say the gamer word (nagger)!
this fren gets it
won't be getting hilux unfortunately but pew pew maker supply crates
isreal is already using these
it's fucked.
even a zogbot might have a soul somewhere deep inside.
a robot has zero remorse, zero hesitation - just an automaton responding instantaneously to every order
They will use them against us.
Endless battle bots?
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
That if American Sig makes it we're totally safe because it'll be a flaming piece of shit
Why the rotary barrel on that puny of a robot?
I know it looks cool but it doesn’t have enough ammunition capacity to make good use of a rotary barrel setup.
Yea, not sure how that makes sense logistically. Maybe just an intimidation and morale thing. Or they'll just never go far enough or be used long enough for it to matter. There is always that too. The big dogs can afford to me a little less economical and use things a bit differently.
This thing will never actually see deployment, it's a mock up slapped together to show off to investors to keep SIG's stock price up. MIC companies whip this shit out all the time.
Well, there's that too. I feel a little silly for even considering that this might actually be used in some way now...
Same thing with the dogs that everyone memes over, they're both retarded. The future of drones are fliers and little cars that kamikaze attack. Little cars that kamikaze have already been used by police in the US.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-dallas-robot-20160708-snap-story.html
What about wheels and caterpillars beign not covered in protective sheets of steel? What about little battery capacity? What about reloading and targetting that thin neck homosexualry?
Might be a revolver style weapon? Rather than some full auto contraption.
AI powered UAVs are going to be the end of surface war, future of war is underground kamikaze tunnel boring machines
metal gear solid box stealth tactics will actually work.
>what is a thermal camera
you know they can't actually see through stuff right? not even glass. live operators can only suspect your whereabouts based on the temp of the structure your in, if your hiding
thermal is good for moving/fleeing targets that are not thermal shielding themselves in some way. a regular umbrella can hide your thermal signature as it's not directly against your body and absorbing your body heat. good for drones. future drone defense might be umbrellas with local camouflage or some type of lenticular sheeting.
the point is if your relatively quick you could absolutely Snake it in a box that is the same temp as your surroundings
your body would heat up the air inside of the cardboard box and heat up the box itself, retard
> $1 emergency blankets enters the chat
And how many of the components in that tank rely on global supply chains to be manufactured that are likely to become much more unstable in the near future?
>robot controlled by humans sent to annihilate humans
>robot controlled by humans sent to fight other robot
>missile strikes against operation centers become fair game
>controlling the robots becomes dangerous
>automation of robots explored
>other side automates too
>need more advanced AI to automate your robots to defeat the other side's smart robots
>create large, hyper intelligent force of killer robots
>lose control of the AI
>robots turn on their handlers and annihilate humanity
like that
Fucking James Cameron
what is the benefit of this thing over a drone which is smaller, cheaper and able to move anywhere due to flight?
More money to politicians. Teлeтaнки этo тeхнoлoгия пepвoй миpoвoй вoйны, a тyт пpocтo кopoбoчкa c пyшeчкoй.
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Пpoщe вoздyшнyю пoдyшкy тoгдa и poккиты, гpaнaтy пpиклeить cлишкoм дopoгo выйдeт. Дaвaй coтpyдничaть, y мeня мacca идeй.
dig ditch
robot fall into ditch
win
The cost of war goes up.
After all the human soldier, retarded though he might be, is still the equivalent of a versatile self-healing supercomputer built to last in most environments this earth features.
The only reason you would want a robot is for propaganda purposes, avoiding human casualties or fighting in inhuman conditions like outer space.
Would be a shame of someone shot out that thing rubber track.
looks more shit than ED-209 but that's probably the point
>What are the ramifications of having the same robotic design for like 30 years?
FTFY
Means Armor piercing incendiary Bullets need to be legalized for sale again
where's the camera at the back? looks like i could run up on it and tip it over. gg nore
Do they self destruct like P320s?
>Single piece of shapnal cuts even the smallest wire.
>No longer able to rotate, change elevation, or use optic.
The reason why robotic shit has not taken over is because its super fucking fragile.
>super fucking fragile
Those are super fragile. I got chinese M41 Bulldog tonk on RC, which have not any outside of hull wirings. It is were ocasionally dropped, kicked, i have played with it for years, removed original RC, made my own, it still moving with all parts.
Those are super fragile because ~~*humans*~~ are still afraid of RC teletonks.
>a fucking tank
>2023
Get droned, homosexual.
I wasted tens of dollars in 1993 money on the Terminator 2 rail shooter game. After that, I spent even more REAL money beating Time Crisis 2 multiple times.
I can shoot robots in completely formulaic fashion, easily. It's me vs. the big tech pajeet shit naggers, that I hate. I will win.
Robot soldiers won't look like this they'll be swarms of quadcopters with small bombs attached to them.
Slaughterbot drones are two weeks away.
Over-priced garbage, buy 1k dj drones instead at 1k each and 100x more effective while still probably cheaper and doesn't get stuck on a rock.
If not manufactured en-masse, completely worthless. Cheap drones used as improvised munitions are way more effective because they're cheap enough to be used en-masse. Whomever is not doing the same is just funelling taxpayer money for contractors.
Didn't Gundam Wing explore the ethics of autonomous fighting robots in war like 30 years ago?
Only 17 years after the Koreans too!
man drones really ruined everything. even infantry are obsolete and a liability in a battlespace filled with micro-kamakazis
I think a can of spray paint would defeat it
if this thin necked homosexualry ever gets deployed it'd be used as a force multiplier and thus embedded in an infantry squad
I mean, you could spray paint their goggles, I guess...
>shoots your rubber treads
heh, nothin personnel kiddo
>What are potential ramifications of robotic soldiers?
I'd say nets would become a pretty viable weapon against something that doesn't have hands to untie itself with.
Ah yes, the tiny net is a death sentence.
Its the cops that you have to worry about using drones like those.
Tactical mobility scooter for obese 'merican troops.
Pure kino. If you've played any of the future call of duties you'll know robot soldiers are kino.
these things will be controlled remotely by some whore sitting in a cushy office miles away while men get blasted away
>*teehee I'm a war veteran sweety xD* *presses button*
Nah, it will be some fat nerd who is liking vidya. Just like YOU
After a while it would just use ai albeit
albeit what?
Million $ intricate device that can be disabled from a 500$ drone with an RPG round mounted on it.
those things need self-destruction capabilities just in case it breaks down in the middle of war or battle and then it ends up in the hands of the enemy.
SKYNET WILL KILL US ALL.
weve seen so many "AI´s going rouge" headlines in the past few years that I dont think the great uprising will be as dire as you try to paint it.
It will most likely be AI trying to eradicate israel and every genetic trace of the israeli ppl.
dats a fact
robotic comfort women
Why weren't RC vehicles being used 30 years ago? We had the tech to remove 90% of soldiers from the line of fire decades ago.....but the satanic forever war israelite needed his blood sacrafice.
I have seen vids of an hostile sand nagger sniper doming some poor zog bot shmuck because some retarded, possibly black or brown superior officer told him to stand still in a watchtower and guard a corner of the fob...... Why the fuck can that not be done by a 400 dollar go pro on a 1200 dollar gun and a 2000 dollar turret/gimbal system while the operator is in a safe location eating Doritos? Why do young men need to die for Israel when we are more than capable of constructing robotic golems to do the synagogue of Satan's biding?
The only reason is because retarded hicks signed up for below minimum wage to serve the army for near free for decades at their total physical and psychological detriment, because they thought war was fun and cool and came with a superiority badge. Nowadays people see real images and video and know 99% of what a modern battlefield is like and stay the fuck away at all costs.
So, now they're just doing what they could have done decades ago, but didn't because in the end they don't care about you the people. They care about money and costs.
It's like it has always been, they would never give soldiers armor or good pay or proper equipment like they did before the pure evil of the nation state manifested itself. They didn't even give naval soldiers fucking helmets for ages. They didn't even give men helmets until WWI after the nation state manifested.
To the nation state you are just draft meat that wields a weapon and presses buttons/pulls triggers. You don't need anything more than the bare minimum according to your gay and fake "nation."
Expensive toys, drone targets
they should make extremely low profile gun robots, ideally low enough to hide in grass, maybe even shaped like an assault gun, except preferably wheeled for simplicity, built from as many already available parts as possible. Designed to be cheap and thoroughly expendable, no armor, and too light to trigger mines, ideally with quiet slow motors and simple improvised weapons attached (like a pipe gun). intended for costless probing attacks against entrenched positions. The idea being they are hard to notice, and even if you do find them, they are too expensive to waste artillery on.
dead humans
ai trained on https://thispersondoesnotexist.com to ignore israelites