Were Roman patricians actually descended from Anatolians?

Were Roman patricians actually descended from Anatolians?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes. both romans and etruscans had anatolian elites

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based Turks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These anatolians were similar to today Spanish and north Italians.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        turks are turbomutts
        modern south euros are genetically closer to ancient anatolians than roach mutts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ancient Anatolians are much closer to modern Cypriots and Greek islanders than to Turks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That makes sense given that Christfags packed Anatolia with every bizarre meme ethnicity in the Roman Empire for almost a millennia, whereas Greek Islanders are just Anatolian Farmers plus Steppe/WHG from the Mycenaeans. You'd have to do a more granular exploration of Turkish DNA to see anything past "Byzantine mutt".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Greek Islanders are just Anatolian Farmers plus Steppe/WHG from the Mycenaeans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >non IE, non Semetic speaking
      so what did they speak?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        something related to minoan or basque

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >non IE
        They were IE actually. They spoke Luwian, a dialect of Hittite.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cranial evidence
      fuck off. genome or it's meaningless.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. The patricians were the descendants of Troy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the people from Central Italy were Indo Europeans so in that sense sure. Otherwise not really.

      That doesn't even make sense by their own standing considering most Patrician Clans came to Rome well after its founding and came from different regions of Central Italy like the Claudii who were Sabines. The last clan admitted to the Patricianate was in the early 5th century.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Weren't Etruscans, among others, admitted?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No 🙁
    DNA evidence has disproven it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Etruscan elites and the vast majority of Roman patricians cremated their dead. We cannot extract uncontaminted aDNA from cremains. No upper class Etruscan or Roman patrician has ever had their dna sampled and analyzed. All the big “research papers” on aDNA of Iron Age Italy are sampling Roman and Latin plebeians and other Italo-Celtic peoples who lived amongst them who preferred inhumation, though most of their elites would eventually turn to cremation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are some east med admixed outliers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Levantines/Phoenicians. The earliest outlier comes from Praeneste where some tombs yielded several Phoenician and Assyrian silver and gold bowls and cauldrons

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Neolithic Anatolians who colonized much of the the Mediterranean and Europe

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, it's a just fucking myth copied on the greek model.
    It's exactly like today with all those crazy fundamentalists who believe their ancestor lived in wakanda or in samaria

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Radiochan

    no, it was we wuzzing
    like how the germanics claimed that they were also descendants of aeneas

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What haplogroups did anatolians have?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      J, I2, G, R1b

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Owners of hijra dalit slavshit

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It seems unlikely they were from a specific ethnic group. The split between patrician and plebian probably came much later in Roman history than it projected backwards when it told its own history.

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