Ways to become a married priest

Hypothetically, what are legal routes in order to end up as a married priest within the Roman Catholic Church? What kinds of loopholes are there, exactly? I know that almost all of the priests are unmarried, and that celibacy is basically required for all clergy in the Latin Rite. I am also aware that there are some exceptions allowed to exist, so what defines these? The Roman Catholic Church did not always require mandatory celibacy for almost all of its priests. There was a change that happened during the Middle Ages, though which year that was escapes me.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Sharath

    Catholic priesthood is for groomers only, stop asking the barber to fix your bike, you are in the wrong place.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot. Catholic priests are statistically less likely to be groomers than the average person.

      • 2 years ago
        Sharath

        So what percentages are those according your statistics? And how you get those numbers?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >What kinds of loopholes are there, exactly?
        Married protestant (I think only from particular denominations like Lutheran and Anglican) clergymen who convert and join the priesthood can remain married. Many Eastern-rite Catholic churches let their priests marry before taking holy orders

        >Idiot. Catholic priests are statistically less likely to be groomers than the average person.
        Nope
        https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/07/14/the-catholic-church-should-scrap-the-requirement-for-priestly-celibacy
        >Estimates from around the world, from a variety of scholars, have found that 6-9% of priests and members of celibate orders, such as monks, may be abusers. Statistics on the general population are hard to pin down, but Britain’s National crime Agency estimated that 1-3% of adult men have urges to abuse children; a much smaller share act on their urges.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > one source from the [[[economist]]] lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's one more than you gave, moronic mutt larper.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well, here’s my shitty Internet proof like yours then

            > 1. No empirical data exists that suggests that Catholic clerics sexually abuse minors at a level higher than clerics from other religious traditions or from other groups of men who have ready access and power over children (e.g., school teachers, coaches).

            > The best available data reports that 4 percent of Catholic priests sexually violated a minor child during the last half of the 20th century with the peak level of abuse being in the 1970s and dropping off dramatically by the early 1980s. And in the recent Pennsylvania grand jury report only two cases were reported in the past dozen years that were already known and dealt with by authorities (thus the grand jury report is about historical issues and not about current problems of active clerical abuse now).

            > Putting clergy abuse in context, research from the US Department of Education found that about 5-7 percent of public school teachers engaged in similar sexually abusive behavior with their students during a similar time frame. While no comprehensive studies have been conducted with most other religious traditions, a small scale study that I was involved with found that 4 percent of Anglican priests had violated minors in western Canada and many reports have mentioned that clerical abuse of minors is common with other religious leaders and clerics as well.

            https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction?amp

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing you posted proves Catholic priests are statistically less likely to be groomers than the average person. In fact it proves the opposite. 4 percent went through with it whereas only 1-3% on average want to do it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That’s cause the average person doesn’t constantly have ready access and power over children. There’s a reason why 70% of child sexual abuse happens within the family. Is it cause families are bad or is it because there’s greater access and control over children within the family unit?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >that 1-3% of adult men have urges to abuse children; a much smaller share act on their urges
            >that 4 percent of Catholic priests sexually violated a minor child
            No that's not the reason. Your own data disproves you. You just turn a blind eye to the most hideous crime when politically advantegous to you. You are actual trash.

          • 2 years ago
            Sharath

            You ever heard about what is dubbed the lavender mafia? Its the Catholic church being accused for childsex trafficking.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > estimated that 1-3% of adult men have urges to abuse children; a much smaller share act on their urges.

          Something is not lining up

          > In a recent study of Adverse Childhood Experiences among almost 250,000 participants across 23 US states, 16.3% of females and 6.7% of males reported experiencing sexual abuse before the age of 18 years (Merrick, Ford, Ports & Guinn, 2018).

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You need to be ordained as a priest for the Eastern Rite. You will be a legit Roman Catholic priest and you can wiggle yourself out of the Eastern Rite later and join some SSPX gang and do the Latin Mass and stuff.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Priests don't marry their Altar boys 'cause
    gay marriage isn't allowed. Plus most
    parents won't allow their children.
    So it's a lose-lose proposition.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Become a married Orthodox priest and then switch over to Roman Catholicism. Orthodox priests who are married are allowed to remain married if they choose to convert.

  5. 2 years ago
    OP

    I think you would have to wait until the kingdom of heaven blooms within you and you enter heaven. The. You could have a consort. But marry a woman while you're a priest, eh that's iffy.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Eastern-rite Catholic clergy can marry. It's the same religion/church.

    • 2 years ago
      Sharath

      I think its funny how you people actually try and help this guy finding loopholes in a religion so he can indulge in his flesh.

      Don't you realize how subversive this is, for him to ask and for you to answer? Do you think God is to be fooled or that he doesn't care?

      You many Christians are a lost people.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Would you prefer to move away from God? What's wrong with being close to God, serving God, and being married under God at the same time?

        • 2 years ago
          Sharath

          >Matthew 19:12
          >and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.

          You can't eat your cake and have it, just like one cannot serve two masters, either you serve the kingdom or your family.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't you realize how subversive this is, for him to ask and for you to answer? Do you think God is to be fooled or that he doesn't care?
        In this specific regard, it's 100% irrelevant actually. The catholic church has always upheld the belief that the incompatibility of marriage and ordination is NOT a theological issue.

        • 2 years ago
          Sharath

          I see, you people serve churches and not God.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We render unto Caesar, proddie.
            There's literally nothing wrong with following man made laws that do not run against God's, and you'd be going straight against Jesus's word by saying otherwise.

          • 2 years ago
            Sharath

            >Matthew 4:10
            >Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

            And serve him only...

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >incompatibility of marriage and ordination is NOT a theological issue.

          The OT background is very illuminating.

          Per Ratzinger, the impossibility of marriage for priests arose from the daily celebration of the Eucharist, which required a permanent state of service of God:
          >[1] In the Book of Deuteronomy, priests do not receive any portion of land in the Holy Land - they live of God and for God. They did not attend to the usual work necessary to sustain daily life. Their profession was to "stand in the Lord's presence." In the New Testament, this privation is transformed and renewed: priests, since they are radically consecrated to God, renounce marriage and the family. The true foundation of the priest's life, the salt of his existence, the land of his life is God himself.

          >[2] In the common conscience of Israel, >**priests were strictly required to respect sexual abstinence during the periods in which they exercised worship**
          >and were therefore in contact with the divine mystery. The relationship between sexual abstinence and divine worship was absolutely clear.
          >Recall the episode of David who, fleeing from Saul, prayed to the priest Ahimelek to give him bread: “The priest replied to David: 'I have no common breads at hand, I have only sacred breads for your young men, if they have at least abstained from women. ' David replied to the priest: 'Of course! We have abstained from women for three days' ”(1 Sam 21:5f). Since the priests of the OT were not to devote themselves to worship except during certain periods, marriage and the priesthood were compatible.

          >BUT because of the regular and often daily celebration of the Eucharist, the situation of the priests of the Church of Jesus Christ is found to be radically changed.

          >By now, their whole life is in contact with the divine mystery. This requires on their part exclusivity in regard to God.

          >This excludes as a result other bonds which, like marriage, embrace the whole of life.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Source: http://choosing-him.blogspot.com/2020/01/more-from-bombshell-book-of-ratzinger.html

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick the Catholic church, man. If OP wants to join and come up with stupid loopholes to avoid the law like a Pharisee then he'll be in good company.

        • 2 years ago
          Sharath

          Except there are no loopholes within God, but alas one cannot force understanding upon a man.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I think its funny how you people actually try and help this guy finding loopholes in a religion
        >Don't you realize how subversive this is
        >Do you think God is to be fooled or that he doesn't care?
        laughs in lo ba shamayim hi

        • 2 years ago
          Sharath

          With funny i meant peculiar, not exactly haha. It is pityful really to set the ways of God aside for your own understanding.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's the same religion/church
      No, it's not. RCC is in communion with EC, but they shouldn't be. The fact that EC are in communion with RCC proves that RCC's doctrines are false.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Huh? That's irrelevant. I'm not even a fan of Jay Dyer. I'm not even Christian LOL.
          You just posted a random video exposing Dyer instead of responding to my post. You are as moronic as Jay Dyer lmao

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hypothetically, what are legal routes in order to end up as a married priest within the Roman Catholic Church?
    Be ordained within the byzantine rite and you basically get orthodox family life but in communion with Rome.
    Various frickery involving getting married at specific points in your diaconate and getting dispensations (I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to frick your wife afterwards).
    There might be other churches sui iuris that allow it, don't remember.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Step 1: Become an Anglican or Orthodox priest
    Step 2: Get married
    Step 3: Defect to Catholicism
    That is the only legal way to be a married Catholic priest.
    But honestly if you strongly disagree with clerical celibacy then why be Catholic?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Also the Eastern Rite route.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What about joining the Old Catholics? They allow marriage.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Catholic_Church

    Join the Old Catholic Church

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Knock up a nun. Marry her, voila.

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