Was Liberia a good idea?

Was Liberia a good idea?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What do I need to say to convince everyone we need to try it again? By force.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to know more about how early Liberian society worked. For instance, how well/poorly were the native black population treated by their 'civilized' black overlords?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the AmeriBlack person ruling class were freemasons so native Liberians are some of the most viscerally anti-mason people in the world today

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not very well. The leaders of the returnees were relatively well educated and inspired by the enlightenment ideals of the time.

      Unfortunately, they were dumped in a jungle with sort of hostile natives who didn't invite them or ask for their leadership, and a core of illiterate former slave labourers.

      Liberia's status today should tell you how well it worked out. The elite, if they can be called that, bred amongst themselves for 150 years, while the locals and other dumb former slaves duked it out.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >hostile natives who didn't invite them or ask for their leadership
        Like they didn't asked for your "civilization" when you came to Africa?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          obviously. that's the point.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Bull, this board sees it as good thing but yet bad when we do. We both agree that your presence have been a disaster.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there are many anons here, I am not American.

            Liberia is a shit hole because it's governance is corrupt and short-sighted, it's people uneducated, and it's also in a bad neighbourhood. Africans just can't get their shit together.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Liberia is a shit hole because it's governance is corrupt and short-sighted
            Has nothing to do with Americo-Liberians all Natives.

            Any attempt of some semblance of stability Whites will destroy it and then blame us for what they did. Like Grenada, Faso, Libya even the Congo.

            Africans can get their shit together when they get rid of tribal differences, religion and cut all relations with NATO, EU states.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You can even include all of central america to. Who remembers the banana wars

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I know and Asia and even Russia and Yugoslavia, I just specified Africa cause it's an African thread.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >and a core of illiterate former slave labourers.
        This isn't true

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but it should've been mandatory nor voluntary

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the mistake was making it so small, not sending all African-Americans to the colony and not have said colonists genocide the existing natives.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It is a good experiment in revealing the true nature of mankind. Racism is a fool's game, and any oppressed minority would do the very same as their oppressor if they had the opportunity.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, I get that this is the go-to way to hate Africans, but it's only 80 years ago whites stopped the endless slaughter of each other that had started from the Reformation at the latest. If being bloodthirsty morons is what qualifies you as subhuman, then Europeans win by a large margin.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We're not bloodthirsty, we're just good at war.
        Black folk are bloodthirst and really REALLY bad at war

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we're just good at war
          >*freezes to death trying to invade a country three times your size*

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            One fat white guy with a Mi 24 ended the entire rebel faction in Sierra Leone

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >it's different because I hate Black folk

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Europe = purposeful violence
            Black folk = mindless violence

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            WWI was pretty mindless.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >kill each other for 2,000 years over some israeli preacher that got ACK'd

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you clearly don't know what Liberia and it's neighbours have gone through. It's a much more truly barberous form of violence.

        Anyway, Asians are the most bloodthirsty by body count. Mao and his buddies, Stalin (a caucasus mountain ogre), Lenin (a mongrel russo-mongol), Tojo, Geghis Khan, Taiping and various Chinese civil wars, etc.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A large part of why Liberia is a shithole is because it was just another settler-colonialist colony that used the locals as slaves, just with African-Americans as the ruling class instead of Europeans.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No

        Not very well. The leaders of the returnees were relatively well educated and inspired by the enlightenment ideals of the time.

        Unfortunately, they were dumped in a jungle with sort of hostile natives who didn't invite them or ask for their leadership, and a core of illiterate former slave labourers.

        Liberia's status today should tell you how well it worked out. The elite, if they can be called that, bred amongst themselves for 150 years, while the locals and other dumb former slaves duked it out.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Slavery was not unusual in that part of the world at the time. In fact, it was more common than not in most places in the world at the time.

        It's a shithole for many other reasons, too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He ignores the coup that cause pic rel
      I have a copypasta from one Liberian shill on /misc/ that explains it perfectly.

      "African-Americans did not, in any capacity ruin Liberia, nor are the to blame for the shithole-tier state Liberia is currently in today.
      The reason why Liberia is poor is because of a lack of African-American immigration, hostile and mentally moronic natives, and US involvement in both of Liberia's two civil wars and coups.

      Under President Tubman, and later, Tolbert, the young nation of Liberia experienced peak economic growth and development. To quote one study by the name of "the Open Door Policy, Economic History of Liberia", "The author has analyzed the capacity of the Government of Africa’s oldest republic to effectively deal with the foreign investors it had invited and to supervise the resulting investments. Furthermore, the financial contribution of foreign companies to the Liberian Treasury and the use of these financial means by the Liberian Government have been analyzed. The consequences for the Liberian economy and society of the activities of foreign investors have also been studied.

      Liberia’s foreign investments boom was at its zenith during the 1960s. As a result, the economy grew spectacularly and with a two-digit rate the country even shortly belonged to a small group of countries which had the fastest growing economies in the world.

      Since the publication of this study on foreign investments and economic development nearly twenty years have elapsed. This period brought tremendous changes to Liberia and its population. The increasing political chaos which followed the 1980 coup culminated in the civil war that raged during the 1990s. "

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        "But didn't the Black folk enslave the natives? Explain that!"
        Yes. The Americo-Liberians enslaved the natives, however, it was completely justified. For starters, the natives set out on a mission to antagonize and attack the new settlers from the very beginning. It is important to note that there was an immediate lack of ANY African-American immigrants, let alone skilled African Americans or generally anyone with an IQ over 78. What makes this WORSE is that the natives were still (illegally) practicing slavery even whilst living among Americo-Liberians who themselves are descendants of slaves. The natives had proven time and time again that they were incompatible with Americo-Liberian civilization and proved this in 1980.

        "B-But if Liberia was so good, why is it so shit now"
        Simple. The Natives and the CIA. You see, while many anons know of the shitshow that was both of Liberian civil wars, many don't know why they happened It is important to note that, as earlier, the natives proved themselves to be incompatible with civilization and were angry with the "oppressive" regime the Americos created. Furthermore, in the 70s the president of Liberia had developed a pro-Palestine viewpoint, whilst also seeking cooperation with communist African nations. This led to the CIA supporting terrorist Native groups hell-bent on destroying anything the Americos had created. And since the natives were always a minority despite attempts of attracting Afro-Americans, they were powerless to stop the onslaught.

        So what ruined Liberia? Savage Natives, lack of Afro-American immigration, and CIA-funded rebels.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >attack the new settlers from the very beginning

          And they were completely in the right to do so. If some foreigners pull up on a ship and declare themselves your master are you going to just sit back and let it happen?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >And they were completely in the right to do so.
            Bullshit they attacked them first and try to not only re enslave them but even went as far as to ask British and France for weapons. Also when you crackers get to leave South Africa what you said is true?

            I always find it hypocritical(but I'm talking to whites so it's their nature) them b***hing about the so called Natives being oppressed by Black Americans without a shred of irony or self awareness or the so called Bantu expansion that somehow killed alot imagery ethnic tribes in SA despite neither the Bantu nor the Khoi/San themselves mention and yet they ignore the countless recorded genocides they have done in Africa and American Natives.

            You don't get to say that shit cracker after all the dirty laundry you have done then and now.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And especially since you whites set it up in the fricking first place, essentially American protectore and we had to lease some of our resources to your shit private company firestone for decades. Only when we decided to separate and control our land is when you CIA destroyed it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Can't bite the hand that feeds you. Euros, chinks and russgolians are no different.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We feed America more than reverse. We tried to end your welfare dependency but like all addicts you try to take it by force.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            that's some real teary-eyed cope my friend.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why did the Americans turn on the Liberian colonists? They'd been pretty close allies since essentially the beginning, what changed the Americans' attitude?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            cold war

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Why did the Americans turn on the Liberian colonists?
            Cause they wanted independence and control of their resources, they wanted friendlier relations with USSR and finally they were planing an legit political union with their African neighbors and I believe the last two was the reason they set a coup.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mano_River_Union

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            his /misc/ always leaves out the cia coup when talking about Liberia. I wonder why.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cause like the accuse Blacks they don't take responsibility as well. Have you ever seen them admit that they were just as guilty for the actions that backfire in their faces long term?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't realize I was in the CIA.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Consider their MKUltra programs, I wouldn't be surprise if you were.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >they wanted friendlier relations with USSR

            Uhhhh... Yeah that'll do it, when you do that shit in the 70s that's exactly how you get killed and mutilated and your ministers shot on the beach

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cozying up to the Soviets was always well known to be the geopolitical equivalent of the shit in this video.

            It's like when you do that, you are going to get fricked up by the CIA, were the Liberians not paying attention to what happened to Lumumba? The glowies don't play around.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            To be honest in that case I would just made Liberia Soviet base go all the way.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was til 80s and CIA plant a coup.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There was never much of a chance that millions of people would go across the ocean to a malarial jungle with no clue of what lay ahead. No chance unless they faced possibly lethal danger otherwise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly the fact they not only did all that but survive, more or less thrive and built a country that was relatively stable for a 100 years or so is probably evident against the idea Blacks can't into society with all that going against them and they're former slaves with less help, that's impressive at least the Diaspora Black.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Liberia isn't even ran by Americo liberians anymore plus they barely make up 5% of the countries population

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the funny thing about liberia is that while the Americo liberian were oppressive, liberia was one of the most prosperous countries in Africa while they were in charge and then the cia funded a coup and they country went to shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In what way were they oppressive compare to any other African country pre-post colonization.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mean I don't really care, but I just find it funny that the cia coup that destroyed the country is always left out when talking about liberia on this site. People just assume the country was shit from the begning

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I met a Liberian guy, his name was Photogenic and his dad's name was Photosynthesis. Is it normal for Liberians to have weird ass names?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I had a friend in school named Wood and his older brother was named Brick. We used to run around playing confederates in Ohio and scare the neighbors. He was a based moron, I hope he did well in life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Knew a Liberian man in college whose name was Cepheus, which is substantially less weird than those names.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    unironically the collapse of Liberia was from them fricking like rabbits, something like 50% of the entire colony was below the age of 16

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That was probably normal for 1820

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they assimiliate the natives?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They try to? In fact they try to assimilate with them first saying they were all one Kongo people as solidarity.

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