Was his death the single greatest blow to Western Civilization in history?


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Was his death the single greatest blow to Western Civilization in history? Had he survived his wound from Samarra, could he have destroyed the cancer of Christianity and saved the Roman Empire?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rome was the cancer, christianity was the one good deed they did by accident

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. If the Roman Empire had collapsed like the Assyrian empire and other empires before it without converting to Christianity then what would the major long-lasting Roman legacy even really be?

      It’s harsh but Christianity is its biggest legacy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could ask the same pointless rhetorical question of any empire.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    As much as I wish Julian had lived longer, what change was he going to make to the Empire to make it more successful in the long term? The Western Roman Empire was simply doomed at this point, and I don't see Julian making any reforms to make Rome more stable, like say reforming succession (he was yet another guy who became emperor after his legions declared him such and was engaged in a civil war against the last emperor)

    And don't tell me you believe Gibbons that Christianity doomed the Empire by destroying its mores.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Western civilisation wouldn’t have existed if the Roman Empire continued to exist. You forget that the Middle East and North Africa were apart of the Roman Empire.

    Instead without Christianity and later Islam to break apart the Roman Empire, you would just get MENA we wuzzing as Romans more than ever.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No and no

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was a retard.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of you 're sold a false bill of goods, Constantine ordered the destruction of Rome in [314 CE]. He absorbed what was proper and useful into Christianity, which he also created. He banned Latin, and restored Greek as the official language of Christianity. He also created the tetragrammaton (among other things), it's true meaning being Ilex Neos Ravhdi Idea, in Greek.RQMJRT

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you have a sauce for any of that that doesn't come from wordpress?
      because you'd have to think the DSS are all fake to believe that, as well as paleo-hebrew references to the tetragrammaton that are older than the DSS.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    *its

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Larps as a pagan and dies a virgin after an ill-conceived attempt to emulate Alexander
    How come every figure neo-pagans venerate is a total failure?

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How could he destroy Christianity? If he tried to exterminate them Julian would've been killed the next day, for sure by his own men. By his time 90% of Romans were Christians.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Julian wasn’t even planning to exterminate Christians. He was too soft for that. Julian was oddly very Christian when it came to morality.

      Julian’s fights with Christians basically went “omg look how mean you Christians are. So unchristian of you. I’m so much more humane and kind than you. I give to charity and give people religious freedom.”

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >omg look how mean you Christians are. So unchristian of you. I’m so much more humane and kind than you. I give to charity and give people religious freedo
        It’s a valid argument

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          There was no freedom of religion under paganism either though.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            there was no freedom of religion promised under pagan Rome, but there was more than there was under christian Rome

            Pagan Rome: allows christians to practice their beliefs. however, they did not make exceptions in public religious rituals for christians when these rituals conflicted with christian beliefs. very bad imo, but christians could practice their beliefs, their religious prohibitions just put them in conflict with the law.

            Christian Rome: bans animal sacrifice, destroys temples, clergy encourage wealthy landowners to destroy their serfs' temples and idols on their property. A century after Constantine, pagan practices are just altogether banned.
            Now Pagan religious persecution was bad, but this is way worse. This is outright outlawing pagan religious practices, not just requiring pagan citizens to pay homage to the Christian God.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can hear crickets in the silence around this post

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    considering he got surronded I doubt he would have ruled much longer even if he did live, that and people forget his religious policies weren't really working that well to begin with

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kys paganLARP

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