Grunge was shit, the individual bands were good
Mudhoney, Melvins, Nirvana, Soundgarden all great bands
Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam were good too
But the moment you put them together by a ''genre'' they start sucking
i was going to call you retarded but you're right, making a grunge playlist is going to be dogshit unless you omit 90% of the bands that are supposedly grunge.
Grynge was culturally relevant for the entire 90s decade up until the early 2000s. Not just the music, but style and aesthetic of the movement shaped everything in media, movies, fashion, art design, etc.
the record industry killed hair metal by trying to force grunge as the next big thing
which is ironic because grunge is supposed to not be commercial, but it was definitely a cash in when the record companies took notice
Excuse me if I get the timeline wrong, it was a long time ago. Hair metal was declining in popularity and the record companies were purging their back catalogs and dropping bands off the labels en masse. Thrash and "alternative" rock (read: metal) were killing hair metal. Grunge wasn't forced, as it doesn't rightly exist, but a lot of alternative that already had traction was dressed up in flannel.
A couple other things to keep in mind regarding why hair metal bands were getting dropped: Lots of coporate mergers and buy-outs resulted in the suots and bean counters dropping the bands that weren't selling as well as they used. And by this time they knew what was actually selling because Soundscan started keeping accurate track of album sales, whereas in the past companies would just call up record stores, ask the clerk what's been selling well and just take their word for it. By the end of the '80s record companies knew for a fact the hair metal trend was in decline while this new fangled alternative rock was on it's way up.
I think independent college radio charts were also taken seriously by the 90s after some breakthrough successes from the underground. REM and contemporaries, mostly.
Also, alternative rock was a label created by labels and promoters so that metal and *-punk offshoots would get radio play on rock stations and better concert venues.
I have a half brother 15 years older than me who was into hair metal in the 80s. It wasn't forced.
As a little kid I listened to the Alice in Chains 1990 album with Man in the Box a shit ton of times the year before Nevermind. Metalheads were moving to a darker direction, leaving hair metal and glam metal behind. Even without Grunge, the biggest bands of the early 90s would have been Metallica, and Guns & Roses who never considered themselves metal and was wearing Charles Manson shirts.
The music industry is quick to jump on new fads, but not very good at imposing them. The same happened in the late 90s when alternative rock was replaced with nsync, backstreet boys, britney and christina.
>Metalheads were moving to a darker direction, leaving hair metal and glam metal behind.
This plays into why Van Halen went on tour with Alice In Chains.
Grunge as a genre that includes Nirvana, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden isn't real. There wasn't a musical genre that included every Seattle band.
Nirvana was a punk rock band. Soundgarden were a hard rock band like Led Zeppelin. Alice in Chains was a metal band.
Grunge only makes sense, as a genre, as music that imitates the sound of Pearl Jam, be it early Stone Temple Pilots or Creed. Grunge = Imitation of Pearl Jam
If you want a common denominator - it was time for the 70s revival, and that's what it was by and large in sound and look. The usual retro cycle 20 years after.
One small hitch with that argument is that the glam bands had operated with the 70s shtick all along, never given up on very specific 70s rock sensibilities in their excesses.
I'd say the new thing with grunge, and what made it so powerful was it's accessibility. The 70s put in the regional punk scene pots that were created in the 80s.
Truly The 70s For the People. No need to move to LA anymore.
Alice in Chains is the only grunge band that stands the test of time. Nirvana is for children, and thats coming from an ex-nirvanafag who still owns every CD. Pearl Jam is pretty good too
Grunge was great in the time it was relevant, but it also birthed post-grunge. So in the same way that Green Day lead to endless shitty pop punk bands, The Smiths lead to endless shitty emo bands, bands like Pearl Jam ultimately created bands like Creed and Seven Mary Three. Was it worth it? Debatable.
god she’s so fucking hot, rip
Grunge was shit, the individual bands were good
Mudhoney, Melvins, Nirvana, Soundgarden all great bands
Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam were good too
But the moment you put them together by a ''genre'' they start sucking
i was going to call you retarded but you're right, making a grunge playlist is going to be dogshit unless you omit 90% of the bands that are supposedly grunge.
>Pearl Jam were good
Their first 2 albums were good, everything after is mediocre dad rock
A good cultural reset
a million times better than the contemporaneous garbage
Grunge was invented by Bam Bam, fronted by a black woman who died in obscurity, Kurt was a fucking hypocrite.
anon, this shit sucks ass, and is indistinguishable from just generic shitty punk.
quit being retarded
The Melvins were active before Bam Bam.
Plus Tina didn't even play an instrument - she just sang and wrote the lyrics- white boys did the rest.
It was based
he was telling us about the DEA secret Geffen experiments but we didn't listen
Grynge was culturally relevant for the entire 90s decade up until the early 2000s. Not just the music, but style and aesthetic of the movement shaped everything in media, movies, fashion, art design, etc.
Yes. I've seen grunge-influenced porn, food, kids' toys, and israeliteelry. I'm not exaggerating. Fucking grunge was an aesthetic juggernaut.
is that style of dress rally grunge though? its just general 90s alt look
> general 90s alt look
A larger way to say grunge
but i mean that look is as much indie or riot grrl or slacker rock or whatever than it is grunge
Riot grrl is lady grunge. Indie is college/trust fund grunge. At least, fashion-wise.
grunge was always shit but thank god it killed the faggy hairmetal genre
the record industry killed hair metal by trying to force grunge as the next big thing
which is ironic because grunge is supposed to not be commercial, but it was definitely a cash in when the record companies took notice
Excuse me if I get the timeline wrong, it was a long time ago. Hair metal was declining in popularity and the record companies were purging their back catalogs and dropping bands off the labels en masse. Thrash and "alternative" rock (read: metal) were killing hair metal. Grunge wasn't forced, as it doesn't rightly exist, but a lot of alternative that already had traction was dressed up in flannel.
A couple other things to keep in mind regarding why hair metal bands were getting dropped: Lots of coporate mergers and buy-outs resulted in the suots and bean counters dropping the bands that weren't selling as well as they used. And by this time they knew what was actually selling because Soundscan started keeping accurate track of album sales, whereas in the past companies would just call up record stores, ask the clerk what's been selling well and just take their word for it. By the end of the '80s record companies knew for a fact the hair metal trend was in decline while this new fangled alternative rock was on it's way up.
I think independent college radio charts were also taken seriously by the 90s after some breakthrough successes from the underground. REM and contemporaries, mostly.
Also, alternative rock was a label created by labels and promoters so that metal and *-punk offshoots would get radio play on rock stations and better concert venues.
I have a half brother 15 years older than me who was into hair metal in the 80s. It wasn't forced.
As a little kid I listened to the Alice in Chains 1990 album with Man in the Box a shit ton of times the year before Nevermind. Metalheads were moving to a darker direction, leaving hair metal and glam metal behind. Even without Grunge, the biggest bands of the early 90s would have been Metallica, and Guns & Roses who never considered themselves metal and was wearing Charles Manson shirts.
The music industry is quick to jump on new fads, but not very good at imposing them. The same happened in the late 90s when alternative rock was replaced with nsync, backstreet boys, britney and christina.
>Metalheads were moving to a darker direction, leaving hair metal and glam metal behind.
This plays into why Van Halen went on tour with Alice In Chains.
grunge is good when it's actually metal and not grunge
This. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden are top notch when they show their black sabbath cocksucking
It was good. The last time there was a feeling of freshness and a legitimate scene in the air. Spin did a lot to cover and publicize it.
Grunge as a genre that includes Nirvana, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden isn't real. There wasn't a musical genre that included every Seattle band.
Nirvana was a punk rock band. Soundgarden were a hard rock band like Led Zeppelin. Alice in Chains was a metal band.
Grunge only makes sense, as a genre, as music that imitates the sound of Pearl Jam, be it early Stone Temple Pilots or Creed. Grunge = Imitation of Pearl Jam
If you want a common denominator - it was time for the 70s revival, and that's what it was by and large in sound and look. The usual retro cycle 20 years after.
One small hitch with that argument is that the glam bands had operated with the 70s shtick all along, never given up on very specific 70s rock sensibilities in their excesses.
I'd say the new thing with grunge, and what made it so powerful was it's accessibility. The 70s put in the regional punk scene pots that were created in the 80s.
Truly The 70s For the People. No need to move to LA anymore.
>No mention of Mudhoney or Melvins
It's in the second post you penis swallower
Alice in Chains is the only grunge band that stands the test of time. Nirvana is for children, and thats coming from an ex-nirvanafag who still owns every CD. Pearl Jam is pretty good too
why is Kurt's old and unreleased stuff his best?
Grunge was great in the time it was relevant, but it also birthed post-grunge. So in the same way that Green Day lead to endless shitty pop punk bands, The Smiths lead to endless shitty emo bands, bands like Pearl Jam ultimately created bands like Creed and Seven Mary Three. Was it worth it? Debatable.
grunge is like barely a genre, its more fashion than anything
it's a "movement"
The best grunge band is objectively Stone Temple Pilots.
Fight me.
no, 2000's kino like The Walkmen and Hot Hot Heat destroy grunge, even post grunge shit like Local H and shit destroy grunge