Volkswagen is bringing back the International Scout brand as a line of ultra utilitarian affordable electric utility vehicles with the option of onboard generators for unlimited range.
I'm thinking based.
Volkswagen is bringing back the International Scout brand as a line of ultra utilitarian affordable electric utility vehicles with the option of onboard generators for unlimited range.
I'm thinking based.
imagine giving money to vw after all the shit they pulled. also
>ev
>utility
Electric vehicles are objectively more utilitarian than ICE vehicles. Cost of operation is a major factor (I'd argue the most important factor) in determining a vehicle's utility.
you're really working overtime today, aren't ya chang?
You can strap a million Jerry cans to an ICE vehicle and significantly extend its range with minimal added weight and delay for refueling. You can't exactly slap an extra 1,000 lbs of battery onto an EV and don't even come at me with "muh solar power", it take 40 hours to fully charge a Tesla under ideal condition. That is leaving out how impractical EVs are for basically every industrial application. Face it it is a psy-op, greenwashing meme that you bought into. The good new is that you can still take the red pill. Long live big oil! (They aren't going anywhere.)
This is literally a thread about an ev with an onboard generator, so your argument is moronic.
It cost so much more than ice it would take a decade to make up for the extra cost.
>Source: trust me bro
Heard you talk shit about utility of EVs.
>Aw yeah, that's just my daily. I got it fer mah wife so she wouldnt keep banging up our F-350 by hitting curbs and mailboxes.
obsessed
obesed
>2033 Ford F-150
>with the option of onboard generators for unlimited range.
so, in other words, it's a hybrid? not an Euthanasia Vehicle? what a cope
Hybrid but a clever way to cheat the tax man. Germans up to their old tricks again.
>build simple cheap frame with edgy styling panels and slap on a beloved US brand name
>install catless German inline diesel Ölmotörenjüdengässer88000 to pollute US soil and gas hapless Americans
>get Mexican government subsidies to have your $8 an hour Mexican laboreruntermensch develop a local "within NAFTA" cheap battery pack for you
>ICE mill is technically a stand alone generator just there to feed the the battery pack which drives the wheels
>claim juicy US government EV subsidies to recoup development costs
>it's a new brand so the EV credit cap resets and customers get a fat incentive for this new "electric" truck
Never trust a German. They still haven't gotten over getting their shit kicked in 80 years ago.
Wholesome post
you're not getting enough appreciation for this one
The whole EV thing is a grift, can't blame em for getting in on it. Still, pretty infuriating though.
>Volkswagen is bringing back the International Scout brand as a line of ultra utilitarian affordable electric utility vehicles
Nice.
>with the option of onboard generators for unlimited range.
Yuck.
>onboard generators
Ah yes, fueling your car with diesel to dunk on ICE cucks
>Ultra-utilitarian
>Electric
Do you think it's easier to extract and refine petroleum than to generate electricity?
midwit
If I'm a midwit you're a dimwit.
whatever helps you sleep at night, i'm sure its hard when you have all those 110iq brainwaves racing through your head
Do you think energy storage devices can only be made with hyper special super duper hard to find elements?
do you think refining crude oil requires some hyper special super duper secret knowledge?
If I'm a dimwit you're a nitwit.
I love how when anti EV people are presented with an argument they devolve into using ad homenims and name calling.
>asking someone a rhetorical question is an argument
moron lol
>ad homenims
Well you're an homo. Gotteeem
my brother, how do you think batteries are created
>how to make battery
1 part Tesla
1 part space x
3 parts govt subsidy
>3 parts govt subsidy
Name some.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml
Why are you so eager to eat the bugs anon?
Look at you being all clever, except you're a moron. The money does not go to the automakers but to the consumers for a tax rebate. It was something GM lobbied for.
Yes, and here is why:
Steps to extract and refine petroleum:
1. Extract and refine petroleum
Steps to generate electricity:
1. Extract and refine petroleum
2. Use petroleum products to make solar panels, wind turbines, and generators
3 (in most cases). Burn the petroleum and use the generator created in step 2 to capture the energy from the petroleum being burned. This step is optional if you used refined petroleum to create a solar panel, windmill, or other source of "renewable" or "clean" energy.
Steps to generate electricity:
1. Use solar panels on my house to charge car
Steps to extract and refine petroleum:
1. Build oil rig in wilderness
2. Build 1000km long pipeline
3. Send it through pipeline to oil terminal
4. Ship it half way around the world
5. Build oil refinery
6. Refine oil into exact grade of fuels for different engine types
7. Ship it half way around the world again
8. Truck it to local service station
9. Use petroleum powered vehicle to drive there and pick it up
Now include the steps to design, extract the resources, & manufacture the solar panels and EV. Oh wait I forgot EVucks think electricity and EV's grows on tree's, my bad carry on.
Now include the steps to design, extract the resources, & manufacture the oil rigs, pipelines, refineries and ICE cars. Oh wait I forgot ICEkeks think petroleum and combustion engines grow on tree's, my bad carry on.
>NO U
That's all you lefty ev Black personbrains can do
>extract the resources
Literally possible with 1800s tech, has been actually documented as far back as 13th century
Not to mention gasoline cars can be readily and easily converted to ethanol
Good luck making a lithium battery in your garden shed though
>Now include the steps to design, extract the resources, & manufacture the oil rigs, pipelines, refineries and ICE cars.
Already done a century ago, try again tesla troony
What a moronic image.
t.city cuck
There is some inefficiency in the system, mainly because our government doesnt allow new petrol plants to be constructed. Also corruption, daytraders on the commodity market and so fourth
You forgot use electricity to keep the lights on at the gas station and run the pumps to put the fuel in the tank.
All the electricity spent in production and upkeep for fossil fuel infrastructure is nearly enough for everyone to drive 4 mile a kWh BEVs.
There are 6+kWh BEVs on the road now.
Most electricity comes from coal or natural gas, not petroleum products.
you forgot the massive amounts of infrastructure required for power
Do you have any idea how much petroleum you need to make EV? You can't mine that shit with pussy battery powered equipment, you know that right? Right anons?
The big miners in Australia are starting to use renewables now instead of running diesel for electrical power. Complete no brainer to use renewables as it becomes more viable and cheaper. Gradually the supply chain will eliminate petroleum as an energy source as it's too expensive and dirty. It'll just take time.
given enough time and push, sure anything in particular will replace it's earlier contemporaries.
The problem is that EVs as an all-things solution to literally anything running on fossile fuel is way too early, because the materials are still expensive and found only in child labouristan, the infrastructure still isn't there in most countries, and the technology itself is still woefully lacking. Especially in regards to battery life and deterioration, which is an issue that has plagued any modern man with a phone since the beginning. Fossile fuel cars will never have issues with their fuel tanks for one.
And besides, present day EV design is ugly as sin, and the interior is a hot mess of ipad touchscreens and straining digital displays everywhere.
Concerns about climate change are pushing it ahead of what the technology justifies. We will probably look back at Lithium-Ion batteries in a few decades as crude, inefficient and dirty tech.
In Mexico a lot of mines are now using electric equipment and trucks.
>just trust me bro
This thing is basically a wheeled train. It uses a 60L 2 stroke diesel running on the thickest tar you can imagine as fuel.
>affordable
To whom?
>electric
hahahahahahaahahhahahahaha
>So, basically a clone of the Bronco remake?
how fricking predictable
Just skip the EV shit and move to synthetic fuels please.
First create something compatible with current engines. And in parallel start developing an engine-fuel combination that is really fricking clean in terms of actual pollution at the tail pipe. As in the actual pollution harmful to humans and the environment. And harmful as in getting diseased and cancer and dying and whatnot.
Power the synthetic fuel plants with Nuclear power.
>Cars produce 0 CO2 (as if that was a problem in the first place)
>no 600kg battery packs fricking up the planet with the mining required
>no 2500kg cars fricking up the roads everywhere they go
>ultra quick charge as was the standard for the last century
When did VW buy international? I been living under a rock or this recent?
>ev with onboard generators
Sooo... a hybrid?
more like a series hybrid like the Volt. The engine not directly connected to the drive train. It just charges the battery.
Not true. The engine can either make a physical connection via a set of clutches to the electric motors to run as a parallel hybrid or disconnect and run as a series hybrid depending on circumstances. The second generation Volt runs more often as a parallel hybrid than the first generation because it was found to be more fuel efficient.
well either way, what VW is doing with the new Scout is what Workhorse was trying to with their cancelled W-15 electric pickup truck.
Shit, I hadn't realized this thing was gonna be a PHEV/range extender. I'm suddenly extremely interested, I've been asking for a PHEV truck for years because I think it makes a ton of sense, negates the MPG issue with daily driving a truck but still gives you that roadtrip capability.
>affordable
im thinking monkeypox