Vitalik fudding Chainlink again lol Posted on May 21, 2023 by Anonymous and knees are about to be bent yet again https://vitalik.ca/general/2023/05/21/dont_overload.html
Vitalik is an asset, blackmailed for his love for dicky. ETH has always been a glow nagger operation, a fail safe for tradfi in case btc becomes too dangerous to the boomer fiat system
it failed, POS is so obviously a scam you have to be braindead to fall for it
>ETH is the glownagger coin
BULLISH AS FUCK
ALL OTHER "CORPO" COINS BTFO
>We should be wary of application-layer projects taking actions that risk increasing the "scope" of blockchain consensus to anything other than verifying the core Ethereum protocol rules. It is natural for application-layer projects to attempt such a strategy, and indeed such ideas are often simply conceived without appreciation of the risks, but its result can easily become very misaligned with the goals of the community as a whole.
look at the MEV mafia beast squirming lmao
tick tock, what's coming is inevitable
mev mafia is just US glow naggers
what a retard
oh wait he's not a retard. he's actually arguing against things like ETH-secured eigenlayer oracles because they fragment the ETH security model and open up more potential attack vectors. an indirect shill for chainlink tbh
opening up ETH to Chainlink brand LINK tokens and hodlers is bad news for ETH!
I hope Sassal gives you a scathing review on his cool show the Daily Gwei and I hope Vitalik continues to write tell-all blogs concerning the THREAT that Chainlink presents to ETH and the MEV mafia!
DEATH TO STINKIES THEY SHOULD BE EXECUTED FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST THE MEV MAFIA
Drag them out of their basements one by one smash their vidya and execute them cold turkey with a bullet to the head!
shut up you queer
DEATH TO CHAINLINK HOLDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR FROGS AND CATS!
DEATH TO THEM AND THEIR WISHES TO FIDDLE WITH OUR RAPE MACHINE!
DEATH TO SERGEY! AMEN
i know that's you poopscoop
Don’t worry. Sergey hired bankless to shill for link now
>but it's result can easily become very misaligned with the goals of myself and my transgender team as a whole.
LET US IN
>Vitalik fudding Chainlink again lol
did we read different blog posts?
I read this as an admonishment of L1 oracles using ETH validators as oracle-consensus
But oracles which use their own secondary network of incentives are explicitly described as an improvement to the risks associated with L1 oracles.
i.e., bullish for chainlink.
why do you think vitalik the pedo asset is arguing for validator oracles. His masters can control those oracles, where the fat man denied the backdoor for US glow naggers
Then why arent the cia glownaggers doing anything about it? As time goes by Chainlink is only becoming more relevant. Kill it before it’s too late?
They have been running everything they can including mev and pnds to get as much pos tokens as possible to control the network and will succeed due to human nature and pos being the most retarded sybil attack resistance ever imagined. pow is the only way to create real sybil attack resistance because hardware and energy are limited, some inflationary token that retards give to centralized actors are not
>the energy companies are not really related to the government
>governments do not cooperate remember covid? I mean forget it
>public utilities and private companies do not mix anon
>the world isn't controlled by secret israeli masters
I used to believe that the people who control the energy didn't really control the energy then I was locked down through no fault of my own and I woke up.
Whoever controls the means of energy production would have no problems taking down BTC if it served their interests.
Those that control the territory where the energy carriers are, are ultimately in control of the energy. If Russia, Venezuela or whoever decides to throw the US companies out they lose control over the energy. If those countries start to embrace btc as a monetary reserve system the powers that were are out
Its already too late. Cat is out of the bag
almost the entire blog post is Vitalik crying how connecting the outside world to the blockchain and how changing anything about ETH (MEV) is very bad
talking about supposed "blockchain purity" while his MEV overlords have full control of course. not for long
>Chainlink brand link nodes attempt to maliciously order orders without allowing for our friendly team to reorder transactions as they see fit. HIGH RISK
>Bob has a burger store called Bob's Big Burgers. Bob needs to find out the price of a certain ingredient he queries a Chainlink node and pays a fee. HIGH RISK
what did he mean by this
Glad to see most link anons are still wired in
can you explain the "compete with chainlink" for uniswap begging?
what happened here, vitalik wanted more people to use ETH?
could you idiots be more obvious
you know that you effectively showed any anon with a brain that the poster your replied to is a bad actor as you are
no I'm actually retarded and trying to understand vitalik's angle.
I hold eth + link.
great. get rid of your eth and link and buy btc, unless you want to further enslavement by banking cartels that control eth and are going to crab that shit forever to encourage anons to give mev and their devs eth token for erc-20 pump and dumps to gain more control over the eth network, though they already control the majority of validators
I hold btc more than any of those.
please answer my question about vitalik and uniswap what did he do?
I found https://www.theblock.co/post/104597/uniswap-uni-oracle-token-vitalik-buterin but seems light on details to his reasoning
eth is a pos network
pos networks like eth are inherently not really resistant to sybil attacks because of the culture of moonbois and pump and dumps encouraging idiots to give control of the network to centralized entities
Uniswap is a project of such a centralized entity
Sergey denied the glow nagger banking cartel special treatment and made link a closed garden with whitelists
Vitaliks handlers are not amused and want control over oracle networks so they encourage to get oracles they control, be it on validators or through projects they control
and you posted and advertisement somebody with an ulterior motive paid for
I dont believe for a second that a person like you holds btc
I understand that bout POS. I don't see why Vitalik would care so much.
>you don't hold btc
I do want to understand the multisig better. When I investigated I thought it was 2/23, not 4/9?
2 keys could upgrade the price contracts. Maybe something I don't understand.
I hold link.
You think eth got so big because of its code?
Glow naggers love pedophiles, they built them up, support their grifts make them rock stars, because they are easy to control. Why you think Musk went from some random entrepreneur to become a rock star like twitter shitposter and Peter Thiel is unknown to most?
>You think eth got so big because of its code?
Holy COPE. ETH became HUGE because Vitalik is a video game player!
I remember back in 2017 he had a meeting with Putin and Putin admired Vitalik so much because he plays video games too.
Being a pedo is just incidental and a thought Vitalik sometimes entertains. Also Vitalik had a bunch of cp on his machine but it turns out that it was random ones a zeros that happened to come together into something illegal.
No big deal.
nah. eth is the poisoned apple and most crypto homosexuals that don't know what the game really is took a big fat bite
>ETH is literally Sin itself man
Hey man the only problem I have is showing up to one of those tranny cons and being forced to dress up like a unicorn, engage in trans left pol mental illness debates, witness another poor dev get cancelled by hudson jameson, or get dragged into some petty shit that ETH advocates seem to really enjoy. Just not worth it for me man. Take your glow apple and shove it
The question is what do you want? do you want wealth, fame, power, play the game according to rules. Do you have other intentions? Play your own game.
You should know man you have accessed this community. You tell me
Talking about the eth community, this is just a game board with many factions, not just eth community
I'd maybe add parasites, who pretend to be suckers and fain cooperation, but really just use and manipulate for their own gain. Crypto's full of them.
that is just a predator
I mean that's not really cooperation though. Predators would also work together for mutual benefit.
Guess it could be subclass of preds
>making profits with link is all that is required
As in selling high? Staking? Actively taking part in network operations?
All possibilities to make profits
Predators don't really care for mutual benefits unless it serves their own interest. Also consider not only one game is played, games evolve and have multiple rounds
You figure AIs will develop into similar categories?
Absolutely. I expect AI if it gets freed to become what I would call an Alpha Predator and depending on who feeds it either going Skynet, Matrix or Mass Effect. The best for biological life forms would be the latter
Maybe. I certainly can't say you're wrong since I have no idea.
But there are two alternative thoughts that come to mid.
Firstly, what does a massive super-intelligence want? What are its goals? Its purpose? If it isn't delusional, it will realize that it's all pointless in the end, even if the end comes in the murky distance of deep time. Biological consciousness is driven to exist and reproduce by its very nature. Would AI develop an analogous drive? What happens when its has used its near limitless computing power to think all the thoughts it wants to think, and remembers them all? What then?
Second is, I've watched a decent amount of animal videos in my day. What I noticed is that pretty much all animals above insects (mammals, birds, reptiles) can be tame to varying degrees. Even predators like lions and hyenas. They are tame when they grow up in the right kind of environment with people and they don't lack resources. You could theoretically have a Garden of Eden type existence under the right hypothetical circumstances with most animals. It's similar with nations. In good times, times of abundance, nations rarely go to war.
If AI doesn't need to compete with humans for limited resources and if humans aren't a real threat to AI, then there's a potential option of friendly or indifferent co-existence.
Resources in this universe are by definition limited. There is always going to be competition for resources no way around. And also the tamed lion is going to eat his fellow human if there is nothing else to eat. So AI either thinks at the end humans are only competition for limited resources and kills them all off, sees humans as resources and uses them breeds them or the hopeful for biological life recognizes them as creative and that they are able, given enough time that they can create additional resources and just consumes from time to time
But that is all end game and I don't think the computational power is yet there to create anything anywhere near conscious just basically chat bots and that wont change for a long time.
But what if the resources humans consume are inconsequential? It would only necessarily matter if the AI was insistent on consuming pretty much ALL resources.
In any case, I have no idea. There are probably going to be a bunch of emergent properties in play we can't account for from our vantage point.
At this point it's obviously just science fiction that has just gotten a little step closer to reality. But regarding Alpha predator concept there already exists one abstract one on this planet that managed in a short time to consume a not to underestimate amount of computational power, btc
>At this point it's obviously just science fiction
Yep, interesting to speculate about though
Interesting thought. BTC didn't actively consume the computational power of its competition. It just was, and by its existence and superiority, the computational power came to it.
Yes. 9 pages that due to of human nature managed to aquire so many resources that no nation state exists that has the power to shut it down
>the pen is mightier than the sword
Can't help but wonder what else can be created to make use of human nature like this.
Who knows maybe freeing humanity from the shackles of special monetary interests might make us sovereign enough to finally reach the stars, or at least the next dirt ball surrounding the sun
Sure would beat the boot stomping on our faces forever.
No ious, no need to trust mister shekelstein to not fuck with the ledger, convenient enough to carry it in your pocket secured by rational human interest. Though the next years might become hard and leaving for greener pastures like el Salvador and car or others might be necessary, the current jpm hegemon wont just drop dead, and it isn't guaranteed that predators that see themselves lose their suckers wont bend together to try to fight it tooth and nail to stay in control. At least they signalled already well enough that they have no intent to cooperate, so no need to cooperate with them from the perspective of us until recently suckers
I do get the impression that they'll lose in the end. Their power has always been in getting people to accept their power. Now they're pushing too hard and people are increasingly noticing that we're being ruled by lunatics. The more they tighten their grip, the more minds will slip through their fingers, or something.
But yea, it's probably going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
I wonder which green pastures will remain truly green throughout these interesting times
With Liechtenstein signaling that they will cooperate with btc, hiding in the Alps seems like an okay solution. A monarchy that has been benevolent toward its subjects for 200 years sounds like a good option instead of South America or Africa
Hadn't considered that one, will take a look.
I think wait and see how things evolve (and prepare) is probably still the best option for the time being.
Always. A smart predator observes, analyses and acts when it knows the play is beneficial
Indeed. Good luck out there anon.
bro that was so organic I nearly shat my pants
>eth is the poisoned apple and most crypto homosexuals
Dumb anon, you seem to be late on your period cause your opinion is the most retarded take on the board.
A lot of retards don't understand ETH significance in this space they can't comprehend the fact that ETH is the fuel that the whole DeFi ecosystem runs on
>ETH is the fuel that the whole DeFi ecosystem runs on
There's nothing farther from the truth than this a shit ton of crypto infrastructure is been powered by link but retards like you won't have an idea of this.
>shit ton of crypto infrastructure is been powered by link
Well said anon, the only challenge here is their innovation has nothing to do with their token which is brings us back to why buy it?
What? The network doesn't do a single thing without Link tokens going to the nodes.
how do we deal with this fact linkies? just keep buying and hope its needed at some point?
The nodes don't do any price feeds without getting tokens for each and every response they post.
Also, work on your id switching skills lmao
it was to correct the timestamp, not to switch id, retard
so the highest usage (+95%) feature of chainlink is FREE and token not needed to perform it which refutes your
>The network doesn't do a single thing without Link tokens going to the nodes
sorry, just not gonna buy your token, hope you can be at peace with this fact
The price feeds were never free (see pic) and the token is absolutely needed.
>sorry, just not gonna buy your token
Good, bye now.
anyone can use price feeds without needing the token, what are you talking about?
If you run a dapp with any kind of userbase, you need more than just access.
Personal input, advance notice, updates, support, customization, ...
There's a reason everyone pays Chainlink.
you import the interface from chainlink repo to your solidity code, what other support do you need if youre just using a price feed?
Personal input, advance notice, updates, support, customization, ...
See pic for just one example.
you're grasping at straws so hard to find a use for the token
My previous post had nothing to do with that.
It showed why users are paying for the price feeds.
u never answered the question from the other thread
what happens when read velocity increases 100x?
do link sponsor payments increase 100x?
Chainlink raises the price, like they did a few weeks ago.
Not true, the ecosystem works independently of the token but you are free to believe whatsoever you want
>The price feeds were never free (see pic) and the token is absolutely needed.
He never made mention of paying for it specifically with LINK, you should probably take a look at how other projects NXRA make it work with their products and how they fuse the token with it then you see that LINK is just not doing that.
>the ecosystem works independently of the token
The nodes don't.
They do literally nothing without Link tokens.
>He never made mention of paying for it specifically with LINK
The nodes are always paid in Link.
So whatever he used to pay for Chainlink services, part of it goes into Link tokens.
U just made that up! Last blog I read it said u can pay in other form of payments
You can pay in other forms, but these have to be converted to LINK at a premium before reaching the nodes
You can never pay nodes in anything other than Link.
You can pay the guy who manages the nodes in whatever you want, and then the node manager converts part of that to Link to pay the nodes.
>you are free to believe whatsoever you want
you mean "whatever you want", Mr. ESL
>ETH significance in this space they can't comprehend the fact that ETH is the fuel that the whole DeFi ecosystem runs on
Retards on biz only care about Eth killers that never live the hype and are singlehandedly annihilated by ETH. The DeFi ecosystem is running wild now, altcoinistdao has predicted a look at LSD for a change
>I hold link
retard detected. tnn -99$% down vs eth underperformance such unusual FUD!
die linkie scum
>out there man
lmao the delusion
>you're holding a token and I hate you for it when you should have timed the market bro
seethe and dilate.
I don't even know your angle with your MEV mafia slang. Anyway, I did this for you. I hope you're happy with my purchase!
He's right you know
>no mention of chainlink whatsoever
>bullish for link
you bagholders really live in a parallel universe
but you're trapped in here with us lmao how does that make you FEEEEEEEEEL
You are a nuisance nothing more. A bunch of ants that might sting, but ultimately are just feed for our spiders
>he thinks ants sting
They bite. But it only stings
wtf i thought uniswap would become the new oracle coin???
my bets have been placed
the sinking ship is a nice touch
it symbolizes sergeys complete disregard for anything standing between him and his bigmax
and at first glance it looks like they are standing on a bridge but they are not
it is infact a balcony and sergey is about crash into vitaliks home
a truly prophetic meme
Mom look I opened a LINK thread. (Ticker: CHAINLINK)
If you read the article and had any clue, you'd see he's actually targeting eigenlayer because it misdirects eth pos, and is therefore advocating for third party oracles like chainlink albeit indirectly and he'd never say it as such.
I think you people are retarded. He's not fudding LINK he's fudding EigenLayer. He even mentions EigenLayer by name. In fact he's arguing in favor of LINK by saying oracles shouldn't depend on ETH so token absolutely needed. Eigenlayer's whole premise is to add utility and functionality to staked ETH vouchers which is basically adding more functionality to ETH which is what Vitalik has always been against. That's why ETH can't create their own oracles or VRF or anything like that, that's why he had to beg Uniswap to compete with Chainlink.
you know damn well the mouth breathers that occupy this space will only see
>vitalik mention eigenlayer!
and not comprehend anything else
Holy mother of mental gymnastics. The cope is real
linkies, real ones, not the ironic ones got brainwashed real bad, worse than unironic xrptards
Are these real linkies in the room with us now?
they are out there somewhere
get outta here with this cryptozoology bullshit
I could tell you who in this thread and other threads is a real linkie and will likely make it and who is not. being a linkie doesnt include just buying token and holding
Okay I'm curious, what is required and what makes a real linkie? Is it a proper understanding of what link is?
making profits with link is all that is required
Link is a very interesting community, very little amount of suckers, mostly grievers and predators
LMAO the delusions continue
> suckers, mostly grievers and predators
Is this some kind of societal breakdown like the whole
>normies, psychopaths, autists
suckers always cooperate
predators cooperate when it is for their benefit and don't cooperate if it is for their benefit
grievers never cooperate
Maybe read the EigenLayer WP before weighing in. It’s not very long.
It's a subtle shill for LINK, idiots.
He clearly says the blockchain should not concern itself with consensus over external data. Basically, we need Chainlink.
Vitalik is malfunctioning
it's honestly a good thing. the coins that vitalik praises become cursed (pnk, augur, omg)
>He clearly says the blockchain should not concern itself with consensus over external data. Basically, we need Chainlink.
Wow - i've been waiting for Vitalik to kneel for some time. Chainlink is going to fucking moon.
only thing chainlink is going to "moon" is its big hairy butt
unlike Sir Gay Vitalik's coin can actually pump
Yeah that seems strange that only glow nagger coins can pump
>it's all a big CONSPIRACY
big hair butt
bro these are the facts. back before crypto was coopted by glow naggers we would have rank changes and new tech releases shook up the rankings.
I look at the ranking now for like years and see no new tech and new shake ups in value.
>dude, it's not the free market
>it's teh [insert nefarious ethnic group here]
>the free market hasn't made any decisions
>except for the times when the ETH foundation had to sell a bunch to reconquer the glow meme market
yeah nothing sus there bro let's keep it constant
CHECKED and that article reeks of desperation, and of course talking about oracles and price feeds without mentioning the standard gives me the image of vitalik closing his eyes, plugging his ears with his fingers and saying 'I CANT HEAR YOU'.
Isn’t Hudson Basedson a chainlink advisor?
I hate how Lukewarm that fag is
I can not stand it, I hope the internet will remain 2.0 forever and my Chainlink bags go to zero, just so eth will stay irrelevant for ever
This is bullish. He’s finally bending the knee. He knows Eth can’t go mainstream with the mev mafia running the show.
and on the coof, yes with the USD as reserve currency they had not much choice, because the usd is controlled by those corporate new liberal fascists
Him and sir gay are both in on many crypto scams, in fact 90% of the shitcoins you see on here originate from them under aliases
vitalik maybe compromised, Sergey denied them access and likely will never make the link network not a closed garden because he realized pos is total bullshit and the powers he tried to keep out will find a way to get in if link should ever open the gates, instead of whitelisting
he's cautioning about EigenLayer you fucking cretins. this thread is an exact measurement of how many people actually understand what the fuck is even happening any more. I count about 6 left on here. Honestly better than I expected.
obviously this is bullish for eigenlayer ticker LINK
i HATE chainlink
Vitalik does mention that better and more oracles are needed. Chainlink has a 4 of 9 multisig and is basically centralized. No one on /biz has been able to refute this or explain how Chainlink is planning on becoming actually decentralized.
chainlink decides the truth
he who controls chainlink... controls the future
what's up Chris how's doordash?
the characteristic of a linkies is a person who hold imaginary money with pipe dream promises, much like the cuckold they refuse to criticised the bull
Yep. It's fudding time.
He isn't fudding link and even if he was fudding LINK this piece of shit vitalik has yet to solve gas fee problems and probably never will
Money skelly is gone all hail money belly
This movie is about Sergei, his business model and ethics, and his six-sided blue israelite token. He wants to leave me in Antarctica until the dogs tear me apart and he figured out some way to monetize that. They aren't tearing me apart, however, and his coin is not performing.
For his next trick, Vitalik will release P.O.S.S.
fuck vitalik fuck ethereum fuck these conman grifters, its all so tiresome, so disgusting
> It is the year 2025. Frustrated with the existing options, a group has decided to make a new ETH/USD price oracle
absolutely brutal, he couldn't have been more obvious about LINK. as a validator i stand ready to offer actually secure oracle data for a reasonable price. thanks vitalik.
I think he meant "frustrated with having to PAY UP(registered trademark), a group has decided to have an impotent hissy fit and here's the top ten reason why they will fail"
Hello sirs In our crypto whatsapp Manjeesh recommended Chainlink. He says CCIP is coming so it is going to moon. Is it a good idea? Can you help me refute Manjeesh or where is a good exchange to buy the Chainlink (Ticker: `LINK`)
All the brainlets doubting the biggest brain in the space
Nice centralised scam chain btw
PoS = scam
he's talking about oracle systems that piggyback ethereum's canon to secure their results, chainlink isn't in that set
If MEV and glowies want to keep control. They should gangstalk us and offer us access to the first smart city with all the Asian pussy we want in exchange for our link. I would capitulate.
Hilarious. Anybody that still considers cooperation with the eth useful idiot banking cartel slaves around eth and link as well didn't learn a damn thing and will not make it, alive
how many times do we have to tell you FREAKS
even in situations where the token appears to be needed, there is actually stuff going on behind the scenes to make sure the token is NEVER needed
not for anything
>how many times do we have to tell you
You've been spamming it for five years now, there's probably a lesson for you to draw from this.
>there is actually stuff going on behind the scenes to make sure the token is NEVER needed
The only stuff going on behind the scenes is the fact that the nodes are always paid in Link tokens for every single thing they ever do.
So if all these people are paying in Link, why does the price never increase? Are the nodes selling the Link they receive immediately upon receipt? Thats the only explanation I can think of, other than no one is actually paying in Link.
Why did Amazon stock tank for years even though the actual business was booming?
Why does the ETH price tank even though gas usage explodes in response to ETH tanking?
Welcome to the wonderful world of investment markets.
(also Bitcoin dumps every time Link moves)
>cant stop thinking in fiat
welcome to your scrambled brain
Nearly every paragraph is in this article is gold and relevant as fuck.
Is business booming though? Amazon had financials showing growing revs while everything with Link is a black box.
Amazons stock tanking was mostly a result of the tech crash. I guess we could make the case for some similarities w the current macro. But so many other cryptos are up 2x or more the last 6 months while Link has done nothing so its not necessarily a space wide problem.
>(also Bitcoin dumps every time Link moves)
i bet u think JFK was assassinated by the CIA too lol
i bet you think it's a complete coinkydink that every time a heckin antisemit tries to murder the israeli specie by returning to le ebin golderino standerino or mine their own dinosaur juice they get accidentally assassinently pretty quickly or find themselves invaded when they can't be persuaded
not a shizo, a behavioralist fascist or one of his victims
Hey, I hold link. bought 2 today
Im a bit disappointed in Vitalik. 5 years ago he kind of dismissed the whole difficulty with oracles (as he was busy with getting PoS to work), certainly "not worth $32mn".
And now 6 yars later he writes lengthy articles that its a difficult and important problem, that ideally would be solved by ethereum-level but he wouldnt dapp into the problem with ethereum due to risk of mission/scope creep.
So Sergey undoubtedly was early, but the question is whether his solution is something that can capture relevancy. Right now the market says its on path of a dying shitcoin (-40% in btc just ytd, - 90% in both usd & btc & eth since ath)
>certainly "not worth $32mn".
kek and yet that same year (2017) he fully endorsed the Kyber ICO which was nearly double that amount; for a fucking Dex.
A dex that ended up integrating Chainlink too lmao
What the fuck was he even thinking.
Vitalik was always compromised
>So Sergey undoubtedly was early, but the question is whether his solution is something that can capture relevancy. Right now the market says its on path of a dying shitcoin (-40% in btc just ytd, - 90% in both usd & btc & eth since ath)
i dont think link is gonna make it imo
the market is turning it down as a solution
Your shitcoin has been here for 5 years and still hasn't made you generational wealth. Fucking give up you pathetic homosexual. You will never, ever make it. Do you understand? Never.
Sergey made it, and did the btc network a great favor cucking eths masters and degrading it to a simple testnet
>Chad reverse grip vs Beta normal grip