Veredict: Its shit.
it depends how you use it, judge.
after some point aliasing on everything can be a bad thing
Man, I want a fucking synth, imagine having all the sound in a piano.
start saving money then, big guy
Dexed VST is free, I have it and its pretty good though complicated
If you have a laptop or desktop, download REAPER and start hunting for free plugins. I recommend Spitfire LABS, Valhalla Supermassive, Dexed and Synth1. The stock plugins are also pretty powerful for the most part.
If you're married to hardware synths for whatever reason...start saving up or shoplifting idk
i'm afraid playing on a laptop isn't as fun as the real synth
It's literally the exact same thing if you get a controller. A MIDI controller is literally just the interface of a synth without the guts, so if you assign meaning to that interface via plugins, it's literally the same thing.
its literally not
masterful gambit sir
It's great, but it's digital and you can get accurate software emulations now so there's no point buying a real one.
nah it might be my favorite synth, for actually playing keyboard.
dexed its amazing, its free,
I think the biggest tip that opens up the DX7 is just have a modulator level 80 to a carrier level 100 = saw wave.
>>I think the biggest tip that opens up the DX7 is just have a modulator level 80 to a carrier level 100 = saw wave.
this needs to follow every single mention of FM synths. huge first step.
What's a good, inexpensive, entry level keyboard for a dumbass in his 30's who probably won't stick with it anyway? Thanks in advance.
korg ms20 mini
Synth or just a regular piano keyboard? The entry level Yamahas are literally perfect if you want to learn the piano but don’t feel like dropping a ton of money
A synth isn’t even worth investing into if you’re hearts not into it, if you want to do something other than use presets the learning curve is fairly steep if you have no background knowledge and different synths aren’t really comparable and don’t translate to each other, The Kawai K3 I inherited from my uncle is a completely different instrument than like a moog matriarch
Option A: MPK Mini. Cheap new, even cheaper used. It's not a "synth" though, it's only a controller. Same basic concept though, you just run the "synth" bits externally, on your computer.
Option B: OP-1. It's toylike and fun to use so great for casual applications but ridiculously expensive, even used. Try Reverb for lowest used prices. Quite durable and mostly self-contained though.
Option C: QWERTY keyboard + GarageBand. Git gud fgt.
These are horrible suggestions. Why would you recommend an OP-1 to someone who asked for an inexpensive, entry-level keyboard?
chatgpt doesnt think or is sensitive enough to understand money
Used OG op1 is pretty inexpensive and definitely is suitable for beginners
>GarageBand, free preloaded software famous for limited because of its ease of use, is a bad suggestion for inexpensive and accessible music production
use caustic if you're on windows idk
Thanks for all the advice, guys.
No problem. Good luck anon 🙂
Depends on your budget, I'd look at Yamaha modx cause you get all kinds of sounds. Idk if you want synths, pianos, strings, etc. but it has it all
Should aim for stuff you'll keep for 20+ years with instruments, which makes the bar for expensive go up.
it was great at the time but was a pain in the ass to program. Yamaha need to release a new DX using their FM-X engine from the montage. with easier programming.
kek i was literally thinking about buying a iid today. funny coincidence
didn't the E! expansion card thing make it easier to program?
Got a modx because of fm-x, wanted a f1sr (think that's the name) for the longest time but fuck programming that thing. Modx fucked up by not having the anx engine but the new montage has it... No hope for a modx update to include it unfortunately 🙁
The e piano alone makes it the best synthesizer of all time
Vaporwave fags would tell you different.
As a vaporwave artist it's undeniably one of my favorite synths, but vaporwave usually needs more ROMplers than just plain DX7
should have bought a roland
crazy that their cheap home keyboards had easier editing.
FM is a meme
Hope I can find a whatever piano keyboard for free so I can hopefully learn
I just want a sub phatty so bad, bros.
I wanna find a JP8000 in a charity shop for very cheap.
i found the OWO for $30, if i could, you can too
Nice. I'd love a JP8000. They have some battery fault which is easy fixed, but it appears its really broken to a normie, so hoping to find one sometime.
normies can google now. your best bet is some old pawnshop guy who doesnt really know what it is.
True. I live in hope.
can we use this thread to shit on eurorack? look how GAY it is, seen those new cables they use like in picrel, thick cables, all jerky like made of silicon or rubber, sometimes they light up. fucking homos.
Filtered HARD. Understandable tho, FM is complicated and need to be studied intensely, not immediately rewarding. Most FM synths are either god-tier in potential but way too complex for normies to comprehend, or simple and approachable but to such an extent they become virtually useless. There is no middle ground. DX7 and Volca FM are the former, Model:Cycles and [shudders] the OP-1 FM engine are the latter.
Why would you buy dx7, when you can buy 8 of them racked?
Nah FM is amazing just not intuitive
>40 year old technology
wtf did you have expect?
so, like literally any electric guitar?
Electric Guitars are 70 year old tech
not really. You can compare a DX7 to a Rickenbacker frying pan, though. electric guitars their evolution plateau in the 1950s with the strat and Les Paul. They function like new guitars. The DX7 does not fit that criteria. Yeah, it was a huge step in the right direction with midi compatibility, velocity sensitivity, etc, but most people will feel hampered by its limitations.
When do synths get to the strat/les paul level of playability? Honestly from an outsider perspective it seems like just this decade it's getting there with behringer and arturia releasing decent stuff with lots of features at consumer pricepoints. But I'm an outsider so idk anything
the music easel is 60 years old and blows the DX7 away into pieces
Maybe you should explain yourself. 1960s synths didn't have velocity sensitivity, midi compatibility, polyphony, the ability to instantly pull up patches, easy portability.... you know the kind of stuff people who play gigs need? So who were these better for?
but they made the classics
>Yamaha PSR E373.
is it really all you need?
Prog rock would have been 100000000000 times better if it wasn't for this retarded instrument
this is what you should get for FM.
8 layer multi, built in sequencer, effects, drum machine etc Only 4op FM but has other waveforms, so quite easy to understand. Imports all DX21, 100 sounds etc
this has the best demo video of any synth ever
>Is the best beginner synth in your path
for me, it’s the Buchla Music Easel
More of a Behringer type of guy
nice, we got the same headphones
I replaced those with the 1770/1990
Are they worth the price increase? using a schiit modi as my DAC and a tube pre-amp
I think so, I like they are more efficient too
>talking with 10year old copy pasta
never tried a real one but on dexed the envelopes are so annoying, I can't imagine trying to program them on this antediluvian interface
>the fender stratocaster of the electronic music
Theyre kino tho
what's a good price for a iid? i found one for $600. gotta ask the guy if there's anything wrong with it. but assuming it's fully functional, is 600 good? also is the E! expansion thing necessary?
$600 is decent but id offer less. I got the mki with supermax, does a bunch of cool shit but sometimes you just want normal presets and normal sound right off the bat and expansions fuck things up a bit
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