it's the same reasons why refridgerators, air conditioners, and all other high wattage appliances were limited. the old ones worked just as good as anything we make today but would jack your electrical bill up the ass.
we didn't really start counting the world population until 1950, but it's estimated that there were less than 2 billion people on the planet around the time the first mass produced home refrigerators were being made.
that's why. that's literally why everything. there are approximately 4 times as many people on earth as there was just 100 years ago. every resource was infinitely more abundant.
Refrigerators aren't high power and they can be built with lower relative power consumption in mind by increasing insulation.
Motors used in vacuum cleaners didn't get any more efficient because they are already at the practical efficiency limit. There's limited gains to be had with shovel wheel geometry where you can perhaps make a 600W vacuums suck like it's 700W but no modern vacuum can compare to any of the 1000-1200W models.
>Motors used in vacuum cleaners didn't get any more efficient because they are already at the practical efficiency limit
most vacuums dont use brushless motors you retard. brushless motors in consumer goods were exceedingly rare 15 years ago, and even now you really only see them in battery powered equipment.
Refrigerators aren't high power and they can be built with lower relative power consumption in mind by increasing insulation.
Motors used in vacuum cleaners didn't get any more efficient because they are already at the practical efficiency limit. There's limited gains to be had with shovel wheel geometry where you can perhaps make a 600W vacuums suck like it's 700W but no modern vacuum can compare to any of the 1000-1200W models.
we didn't really start counting the world population until 1950, but it's estimated that there were less than 2 billion people on the planet around the time the first mass produced home refrigerators were being made.
that's why. that's literally why everything. there are approximately 4 times as many people on earth as there was just 100 years ago. every resource was infinitely more abundant.
surprisingly interesting and educational for a Henry Hoover thread
that only applies to poorfag vacuum cleaners with shitty chink components. buy real products stop supporting the ever-lowering bar of abysmal build quality
If it's properly built with no leaks it's only the motor power that counts. A little 550w vacuumcel won't do shit.
it's the same reasons why refridgerators, air conditioners, and all other high wattage appliances were limited. the old ones worked just as good as anything we make today but would jack your electrical bill up the ass.
>would jack your electrical bill up the ass.
There's dials and power settings. Now you need to run it for much longer to do the same job and pass over the same area repeatedly. Post EU regulation normal vacuums are all terrible if you've got any pets.
Most "efficiency" has become a marketing gimmick, since, understandably, appliances are actually a very tight margin business.
"Muh green appliance" helps increase margins, even if effectively they are less efficient over time - and they are.
You know I mean the intake assembly et cetera (especially troublesome for bagless) before the exhaust. Let's see your 550W vacuum pull more, or just as much as a 2kW one.
henry is very very good vacum cleaner, it has powerful suction for his watt power and also it is quiet. I have some phillips 2000w, karcher se 6100 and these are like twice as loud with same suction power.
for me it's wet wipe cleaners (picrel)
with hovers (unless you get some industrial $$$ filter vacuum) you get fine dust flying around, with wet wipes you get rid of every single dust spec.
I lived in a hotel for a while and we would borrow their professional vacuum and it was soo good.
The "family" one are not comparable. I hate vacuum cleaning now, they all feel weak.
I hate even more the one with batteries, energy constrains made them shit.
For me it's the Miele C3.
You can get a special head with softer bristles if you have vinyl flooring or other delicate type of floor.
Do not get a bag-less vacuum.
Do not get a cordless vacuum
I have it too, bought it used (I'm not part of the Vorwerk cult). It works very well. Miele is the way to go, Electrolux and Bosch make some very nice products too, but I wanted an upright for a change. I'm extremely satisfied. Get it replaced maybe? There's a 10 years warranty.
On the other side, every bagless I had was a pain, including Dysons, except for a small wired INSE I bought on Amazon to vacuum my work-attributed sleeping room a few years ago (had to spend weeks at the place sometimes and wasn't satisfied with the cleaning). The thing would probably burn if I used it at home though (bad build, smells like burnt plastics after 15 minutes).
They all leak dust to the motor because cyclones can't keep the fine particulates in there. If they don't have a hepa exhaust filter (and its 100% sealed) you're gonna get dust leaks everywhere. And premotor/exhaust filters generally cost the same as a modern 1 year supply of bags. Also, you don't have to breathe the dust when you empty it.
Anybody try rainbow? My grandma had one, and then my parents inherited it: it was that good.
I just don't now if the overall decline in quality has even touched Rainbow.
What I like about is is that it triples as a vacuum, wet vac, and floor washer with the right attachments.
My entire house is thick carpet, swapped from a 900w old school mains vacuum like these to a 380w battery one but the trick is having a motorized head, shit picks up everything and cuts long hairs on the roller head too so it never clogs. Unpowered heads are shit unless you have hard floors
This.
I have a cordless 550W Jimmy jv85 Pro and that mogs my Miele C3 on carpets by the virtue of having a motorized head.
I'll never buy another one that comes with a normal head, the difference is simply too massive.
Bought an air powered motorized head for the Miele but it sputters out on carpets and doesn't compare
Dogshit vacuums. The cyclones get clogged and it's a pain in the ass to clean once it gets smelly. Might as well go full bottom of the barrel and buy Shark.
Anybody try rainbow? My grandma had one, and then my parents inherited it: it was that good.
I just don't now if the overall decline in quality has even touched Rainbow.
What I like about is is that it triples as a vacuum, wet vac, and floor washer with the right attachments.
I put a wood floor down throughout my entire flat because it's easier to give the place a vacuum with a battery operated one and then mop the floors, than when I had carpet down and was trying to use the same vacuum to do carpet. Prior to that I had a Miele and the regulation about energy use that was an absolute weapon.
I have an old Dyson cordless (V10 I'm pretty sure) and the power head for carpet broke
I have really thick and tall carpet, and even when it was working it didn't feel like it was picking up everything. If you brushed your hand over the carpet you could see little specs jumping up.
What's my best option for a vacuum that will get all that shit?
I'd love to have a robot vacuum but I refuse to use anything that doesn't run open source software. Speaking of, are there any good ones? Surely someone makes some good hardware that can be reflashed with good software
>What's my best option for a vacuum that will get all that shit?
I'm
I put a wood floor down throughout my entire flat because it's easier to give the place a vacuum with a battery operated one and then mop the floors, than when I had carpet down and was trying to use the same vacuum to do carpet. Prior to that I had a Miele and the regulation about energy use that was an absolute weapon.
. Before I bought my cordless, I was using a Miele tailored to cat/dog owners because I had thick carpet too. It also had a Hepa filter in it, so do the ones tailored for allergy sufferers. Which is a nice plus. I think they're all 890w now. The one I had before the power regulations came in was 1200w or maybe higher I think. It's been a few years since I actually checked their site.
The more power you can get the better then. And as others have mentioned, a motorised head that really works the carpet fibres to loosen what still stuck in there.
someone has already posted it but when Miele makes both bagged and bagless upright, canister, and stick vacuums, there is zero reason to buy any other brand
Henry is annoyingly prone to breaking and overheating but the ones without bags are useful as fuck
Fun fact modern vacuum cleaners are objectively worse because legislation demanded that their power consumption be limited for reasons.
it's the same reasons why refridgerators, air conditioners, and all other high wattage appliances were limited. the old ones worked just as good as anything we make today but would jack your electrical bill up the ass.
>people in the mid to late 20th century were energy richer than people today
how did we get here?
we didn't really start counting the world population until 1950, but it's estimated that there were less than 2 billion people on the planet around the time the first mass produced home refrigerators were being made.
that's why. that's literally why everything. there are approximately 4 times as many people on earth as there was just 100 years ago. every resource was infinitely more abundant.
remember when nuclear was sold as so cheap it would be unmeterable? we could have had that.
>remember when nuclear was sold as so cheap it would be unmeterable? we could have had that.
Hey now, cool it with the anti-semitism
Refrigerators aren't high power and they can be built with lower relative power consumption in mind by increasing insulation.
Motors used in vacuum cleaners didn't get any more efficient because they are already at the practical efficiency limit. There's limited gains to be had with shovel wheel geometry where you can perhaps make a 600W vacuums suck like it's 700W but no modern vacuum can compare to any of the 1000-1200W models.
you really don't need that much suck
>Motors used in vacuum cleaners didn't get any more efficient because they are already at the practical efficiency limit
most vacuums dont use brushless motors you retard. brushless motors in consumer goods were exceedingly rare 15 years ago, and even now you really only see them in battery powered equipment.
surprisingly interesting and educational for a Henry Hoover thread
isn't that just a eucuck thing?
that only applies to poorfag vacuum cleaners with shitty chink components. buy real products stop supporting the ever-lowering bar of abysmal build quality
If it's properly built with no leaks it's only the motor power that counts. A little 550w vacuumcel won't do shit.
>would jack your electrical bill up the ass.
There's dials and power settings. Now you need to run it for much longer to do the same job and pass over the same area repeatedly. Post EU regulation normal vacuums are all terrible if you've got any pets.
Most "efficiency" has become a marketing gimmick, since, understandably, appliances are actually a very tight margin business.
"Muh green appliance" helps increase margins, even if effectively they are less efficient over time - and they are.
an air motor with no leaks. very funny man. what next, a rocket engine with no leaks? filtered by fluid dynamics. many such cases
You know I mean the intake assembly et cetera (especially troublesome for bagless) before the exhaust. Let's see your 550W vacuum pull more, or just as much as a 2kW one.
You shouldn't have pissed off Putin.
henry is very very good vacum cleaner, it has powerful suction for his watt power and also it is quiet. I have some phillips 2000w, karcher se 6100 and these are like twice as loud with same suction power.
average bri'ish bonghead
for me it's wet wipe cleaners (picrel)
with hovers (unless you get some industrial $$$ filter vacuum) you get fine dust flying around, with wet wipes you get rid of every single dust spec.
>lust provoking image
I lived in a hotel for a while and we would borrow their professional vacuum and it was soo good.
The "family" one are not comparable. I hate vacuum cleaning now, they all feel weak.
I hate even more the one with batteries, energy constrains made them shit.
what was the model? can buy from alibaba or express.
Don't know, sorry.
I moved when I was 18 and obviously I didn't see it as an interesting thing at the time. Now I would buy it as well.
his regimen keeps him cute 🙂
For me it's the Miele C3.
You can get a special head with softer bristles if you have vinyl flooring or other delicate type of floor.
Do not get a bag-less vacuum.
Do not get a cordless vacuum
Whats wrong with bagless vacuum? They are infinitely more practical, you just empty the container, wash it if necessary and its good to go.
You end up sepnding a lot of time cleaning it, they get dirty quicker, and relase a lot of dust when you empty them.
So if you have a lot of dust and vacuum often, or if you have allergies, you're better off with bags.
I have the exact piece of shit on the right and it sometimes refuses to continue vacuuming.
The bag wasn't full either
I have it too, bought it used (I'm not part of the Vorwerk cult). It works very well. Miele is the way to go, Electrolux and Bosch make some very nice products too, but I wanted an upright for a change. I'm extremely satisfied. Get it replaced maybe? There's a 10 years warranty.
On the other side, every bagless I had was a pain, including Dysons, except for a small wired INSE I bought on Amazon to vacuum my work-attributed sleeping room a few years ago (had to spend weeks at the place sometimes and wasn't satisfied with the cleaning). The thing would probably burn if I used it at home though (bad build, smells like burnt plastics after 15 minutes).
They all leak dust to the motor because cyclones can't keep the fine particulates in there. If they don't have a hepa exhaust filter (and its 100% sealed) you're gonna get dust leaks everywhere. And premotor/exhaust filters generally cost the same as a modern 1 year supply of bags. Also, you don't have to breathe the dust when you empty it.
Have a miele capri, can confirm.
Get a shopvac for the garage, and a miele for everything else.
Too bad there are no Miele dealers where I live. Sure as fuck won't order one if i can't get it serviced. Same with SEBO.
My entire house is thick carpet, swapped from a 900w old school mains vacuum like these to a 380w battery one but the trick is having a motorized head, shit picks up everything and cuts long hairs on the roller head too so it never clogs. Unpowered heads are shit unless you have hard floors
> the trick is having a motorized head,
This.
I have a cordless 550W Jimmy jv85 Pro and that mogs my Miele C3 on carpets by the virtue of having a motorized head.
I'll never buy another one that comes with a normal head, the difference is simply too massive.
Bought an air powered motorized head for the Miele but it sputters out on carpets and doesn't compare
roborock s5, s6, s7
Buy a vintage Kirby.
a small shop vac is all you'll ever need
>ctrl f
>no Dyson
Dogshit vacuums. The cyclones get clogged and it's a pain in the ass to clean once it gets smelly. Might as well go full bottom of the barrel and buy Shark.
I've had my V8 for since like 2016 and it has had no problems. Skill issue
Anybody try rainbow? My grandma had one, and then my parents inherited it: it was that good.
I just don't now if the overall decline in quality has even touched Rainbow.
What I like about is is that it triples as a vacuum, wet vac, and floor washer with the right attachments.
I put a wood floor down throughout my entire flat because it's easier to give the place a vacuum with a battery operated one and then mop the floors, than when I had carpet down and was trying to use the same vacuum to do carpet. Prior to that I had a Miele and the regulation about energy use that was an absolute weapon.
I have an old Dyson cordless (V10 I'm pretty sure) and the power head for carpet broke
I have really thick and tall carpet, and even when it was working it didn't feel like it was picking up everything. If you brushed your hand over the carpet you could see little specs jumping up.
What's my best option for a vacuum that will get all that shit?
I'd love to have a robot vacuum but I refuse to use anything that doesn't run open source software. Speaking of, are there any good ones? Surely someone makes some good hardware that can be reflashed with good software
>What's my best option for a vacuum that will get all that shit?
I'm
. Before I bought my cordless, I was using a Miele tailored to cat/dog owners because I had thick carpet too. It also had a Hepa filter in it, so do the ones tailored for allergy sufferers. Which is a nice plus. I think they're all 890w now. The one I had before the power regulations came in was 1200w or maybe higher I think. It's been a few years since I actually checked their site.
We don't have such regulations so I can walk into Kmart and get a 1200w vacuum right now if I wanted.
The more power you can get the better then. And as others have mentioned, a motorised head that really works the carpet fibres to loosen what still stuck in there.
someone has already posted it but when Miele makes both bagged and bagless upright, canister, and stick vacuums, there is zero reason to buy any other brand
>not a full-metal case Numatic
NGMI