>Plus the growing brown population doesn’t care about indie shit. They love mainstream things
No it's white people controlling the market. It's you guys with the shit taste
>No it's white people controlling the market. It's you guys with the shit taste
cope and seethe. You have more control than you ever have and now everything is shit. Pop homosexual Whites and Redneck Blacks. The combination from hell
>Plus the growing brown population doesn’t care about indie shit. They love mainstream things
No it's white people controlling the market. It's you guys with the shit taste
nerds got tired of being nerds and tried to assimilate into normiedom by embracing their culture. why did nerds get tired of being nerds? perhaps the oversexualization of society drove them crazy in their virginity.
What the fuck are you talking about? The top album on rym for 2023 is a noise-rock album with two 24 minute songs. Rym is still the furthest thing from “poptimist” that I can thing of. Just because they give pop music a fair shake doesn’t make them poptimist lmao
It’s called politics. If they shit on mainstream music, which is mostly female, they’ll be labeled sexist and a white publication. Thank social media for turning things into shit
It had some like, Joanna Newsom, Patti Smith, Björk or Diamanda Galas, not milquetoast mass produced generic pop singers like Carly Rae Jepsen or Jessie Ware.
>RYM pretends shit like Cardi B and Olivia Rodrigo are good,
You consider a 2.63 score 'good'?
I don't remember any female artist in the top 100
Are you blind or just trolling?
Kate Bush and Bjork have been in the top 100 for years.
And if we're counting bands with female members then Slowdive, Talking Heads, Velvet Underground, Portishead, and Cocteau Twins also apply.
all RYM charts past the mid 2000s are worthless, they never spotlight the best or most influential entries within their respective genres, just whatever temporarily captured contemporary music journalist/influencers' interest. it would actually be better if they were more mainstream because they'd at least capture the cultural zeitgeist instead of midwit-tier hipster crap.
The reason for this is obvious, in that it isn’t immediately apparent what art is important or influential until enough time has passed to categorize it as such. As an example: regardless of what you think of Kanye, Yeezus pushed an obvious shift in the genre of hip hop and it still has a lasting influence to this day. That record wasn’t well received on RYM at first, but it has jumped in score over the last decade as people come around to realize its importance. Subsequently, any chart within the last 20-30 years might still need adjusting while music consumers are able to recognize the lasting significance of some music as well as the short lived trend hoppers of other music.
>they never spotlight the best or most influential entries within their respective genres, just whatever temporarily captured contemporary music journalist/influencers' interest.
This about sums it up. That George Clanton album on the top of the Baggy/Madchester chart is a great example. Absolutely no relevance within the genre whatsoever, it barely even fits the genre, but since it's trendy it's pushed to the top to feign cultural relevance. Since zoomer culture feeds on nostalgia it's their way of forcing their products as "classics".
Why do you guys care about this website, their user base and opinions? It doesn’t matter it has no impact on anything at all
You’d have to be autistic enough to begin with to believe anyone cares about your music ‘reviews’ to even register for an account.
Sprain is not going to be remembered in ten years. People will look back and see that there was a point in time where this album was thought to be relevant in the noise rock landscape and they will laugh.
The real answer is the death of gatekeeping.
LULZ relentlessly mocked people who liked corporate crap and the artists themselves, so it was impossible for a pop stans to get togheter and discuss music here, as opposed to places like twitter or atrl where that is encouraged and who are well know to have label shills.
Liberals torn down gatekeeping because their culture dictates that everything has to accessible and we should let people enjoy *the correct* things, so that enabled labels to take over and push their acts as a new canon.
Because there's a big overlap between LULZ and RYM.
RYM (along with Fantano before being canceled) used to steal their music recs from here, and LULZ stole music recs from blogspots and p4k (before they sold out).
>How did that happen?
indie is pop envy, artists want to be mainstream, "alternatives" want their "diverse tastes" to be acknowledged by the mainstream
Any time someone says LULZ is worse than RYM, show them this thread.
https://rateyourmusic.com/discussion/music/which-of-your-favorite-musicians-could-be-considered-problematic/
rym just makes music extremely accessible for people to discover. music itself is already a very accessible medium compared to literature, film, etc. in its early days, the users would often have large preexisting collections and would use it to catalogue. nowadays, a lot of new users just drone the top charts, which makes it easier for people who aren't actually that into music. hence, those kind of users also bring whatever shit taste they had before as well. I still believe the site is probably the best at the moment for discovering music if you know how to navigate it, especially since LULZ has no sharethreads anymore and chart threads are useless for the most part.
poptimism and its consequences
this
>No it's white people controlling the market. It's you guys with the shit taste
cope and seethe. You have more control than you ever have and now everything is shit. Pop homosexual Whites and Redneck Blacks. The combination from hell
The internet isn't only for nerds now
It has not been since 2007.
>He doesn’t know about Eternal September
2010s
I’m not a lefty fag but capitalism is getting stronger. Plus the growing brown population doesn’t care about indie shit. They love mainstream things
>Plus the growing brown population doesn’t care about indie shit. They love mainstream things
No it's white people controlling the market. It's you guys with the shit taste
Yea I know, but the white user base would at least put effort to like indie underground hipstery shit. The newer population just likes radio tier shit
LULZ and rym jocked a lot of their culture from pitchfork and the blogosphere and when those went poptimist....
nerds got tired of being nerds and tried to assimilate into normiedom by embracing their culture. why did nerds get tired of being nerds? perhaps the oversexualization of society drove them crazy in their virginity.
>drove them crazy in their virginity.
It only makes me stronger, really. Indefatigable, even.
What the fuck are you talking about? The top album on rym for 2023 is a noise-rock album with two 24 minute songs. Rym is still the furthest thing from “poptimist” that I can thing of. Just because they give pop music a fair shake doesn’t make them poptimist lmao
RYM pretends shit like Cardi B and Olivia Rodrigo are good, thats poptimist
It’s called politics. If they shit on mainstream music, which is mostly female, they’ll be labeled sexist and a white publication. Thank social media for turning things into shit
I don't remember any female artist in the top 100
Well then I’m going to twitter to complain about that
bjork has like three albums in the top 30
It had some like, Joanna Newsom, Patti Smith, Björk or Diamanda Galas, not milquetoast mass produced generic pop singers like Carly Rae Jepsen or Jessie Ware.
You seriously not baiting?
>RYM pretends shit like Cardi B and Olivia Rodrigo are good,
You consider a 2.63 score 'good'?
Are you blind or just trolling?
Kate Bush and Bjork have been in the top 100 for years.
And if we're counting bands with female members then Slowdive, Talking Heads, Velvet Underground, Portishead, and Cocteau Twins also apply.
all RYM charts past the mid 2000s are worthless, they never spotlight the best or most influential entries within their respective genres, just whatever temporarily captured contemporary music journalist/influencers' interest. it would actually be better if they were more mainstream because they'd at least capture the cultural zeitgeist instead of midwit-tier hipster crap.
The reason for this is obvious, in that it isn’t immediately apparent what art is important or influential until enough time has passed to categorize it as such. As an example: regardless of what you think of Kanye, Yeezus pushed an obvious shift in the genre of hip hop and it still has a lasting influence to this day. That record wasn’t well received on RYM at first, but it has jumped in score over the last decade as people come around to realize its importance. Subsequently, any chart within the last 20-30 years might still need adjusting while music consumers are able to recognize the lasting significance of some music as well as the short lived trend hoppers of other music.
>they never spotlight the best or most influential entries within their respective genres, just whatever temporarily captured contemporary music journalist/influencers' interest.
This about sums it up. That George Clanton album on the top of the Baggy/Madchester chart is a great example. Absolutely no relevance within the genre whatsoever, it barely even fits the genre, but since it's trendy it's pushed to the top to feign cultural relevance. Since zoomer culture feeds on nostalgia it's their way of forcing their products as "classics".
This.
this, just ignore the four hip hop albums and the pop album in the top 10
Sprain is not going to be remembered in ten years. People will look back and see that there was a point in time where this album was thought to be relevant in the noise rock landscape and they will laugh.
Their top album of all time is a mainstream hip hop album by a famous rapper
Two sides of the same shit coin, who cares
Why do you guys care about this website, their user base and opinions? It doesn’t matter it has no impact on anything at all
You’d have to be autistic enough to begin with to believe anyone cares about your music ‘reviews’ to even register for an account.
The real answer is the death of gatekeeping.
LULZ relentlessly mocked people who liked corporate crap and the artists themselves, so it was impossible for a pop stans to get togheter and discuss music here, as opposed to places like twitter or atrl where that is encouraged and who are well know to have label shills.
Liberals torn down gatekeeping because their culture dictates that everything has to accessible and we should let people enjoy *the correct* things, so that enabled labels to take over and push their acts as a new canon.
Because there's a big overlap between LULZ and RYM.
RYM (along with Fantano before being canceled) used to steal their music recs from here, and LULZ stole music recs from blogspots and p4k (before they sold out).
This holy shit.
All you literal homosexuals ITT need to pack up your dilators and FUCK OFF back to rym.
What bothers me is the dudes complaining about this shit usually dont have tastes any better than the people they're bitching about.
Legit just get a life and you won't have time to cry about retarded shit like this.
t. ranny
Oftentimes true
zoomers only know about massssively popular artists
you only have to interact with people you choose to interact with and there are plenty of avant teens and indie fags
Bots
>How did that happen?
indie is pop envy, artists want to be mainstream, "alternatives" want their "diverse tastes" to be acknowledged by the mainstream
Any time someone says LULZ is worse than RYM, show them this thread.
https://rateyourmusic.com/discussion/music/which-of-your-favorite-musicians-could-be-considered-problematic/
rym just makes music extremely accessible for people to discover. music itself is already a very accessible medium compared to literature, film, etc. in its early days, the users would often have large preexisting collections and would use it to catalogue. nowadays, a lot of new users just drone the top charts, which makes it easier for people who aren't actually that into music. hence, those kind of users also bring whatever shit taste they had before as well. I still believe the site is probably the best at the moment for discovering music if you know how to navigate it, especially since LULZ has no sharethreads anymore and chart threads are useless for the most part.
True,random pop rock bands from Mexico/Bochi The Rock/MUSE/etc posting on LULZ constantly too.
zoomers
>corpo top 40 music
wut. have no ever been on rym?
Can I blame the trannies, or will retards here just call me "obsessed"?