Redpill on living in the alpines?
>what's the seasonal weather like?
>it is expensive to live?
>what are the people like?
>is there much work available?
>why haven't the Italians given back the land yet?
Keep it political.
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i'm from the italian alps originally so i'll answer
> winter and fall it's cold, summer and spring it's lukewarm.
> not too expensive imo, but then again, i go back there on an american salary so... italy, even northern italy, is generally cheaper than western europe and usa in my experience
> the italians there are quiet and keep to themselves. a lot of families have a baita, which is basically a small summer cabin far in the mountains. a lot of european tourists in the summer are a bit annoying. also, it doesn tfeel like pure wilderness since italians have developed alto adige and the rest of the alps so much.
> i think so.
> it's our land. alto adige has an indigenous italian population (venetian and ladin), especially in bolzano and Ladinia in the eastern part of alto adige- trentino
Dolomite?
I had a gf who lived in Bolzano, nowadays there's some Syrian 'refugees' there.
yes bolzano is mutted
Italian living in Sudtirol, Bolzano-Bozen.
>>>what's the seasonal weather like?
Extremely hot in the summer (consistently over 30°), pretty cold in the winter (right below 0°). Bolzano has no air circulation, it's much better just outside of it.
>>it is expensive to live?
Most expensive place in Italy, on par with Milan.
You can try Trentino for a cheaper experience.
>>what are the people like?
Italians in Bolzano are awful, the most entitled and snob people you will find. They have no culture at all because there's no local Italian culture, they're all descendants of immigrants from other places of Italy.
The local Austrian population is great.
>>why haven't the Italians given back the land yet?
Because no one really cares. Italy gave them lots of grants, grants that the locals will lose would they ever go back under Austria.
This post is all over the place. Lots of false information and confuses Trentino with Alto Adige/Sudtirol. He also confuses Ladins for Italians.
idiot ladins are italians. ur one of those docile terroni. alto adige- trentino isnt expensive. ur just a poor terrone. also, wdym it's hot? It's not fucking hot. venetians and ladins are both italian peoples who have been living in the area for a long time.
Average uneducated American. Can't even shut the fuck up when local people talk, types like an underage retard on his phone.
35° is fucking hot, retard. Look at the averages of Bolzano in the summer.
Ladins are Ladins, not Italian. It's a reto-roman language.
IVE LIVED NEXT TO ALTO ADIGE (CORTINA)
IT'S NOT FUCKING HOT. maybe it's the insulation from your multiple layers of fat.
raeto romance peoples are italian. are you really gonna sit here and tell me just because friulians, ladins and romansch speak a slightly more distinct regional italian language that they arent ethnic italians?
>does not understand the difference in elevation between Bolzano and Cortina has an effect on the temperature and climate
Dumb mutt.
What do you think "raeto" means?
Now you change the subject.
si, capito che bolzano e' piu' basso pero', veramente, mi sembra che non e' fa caldo li.
Guarda le medie estive cazzo, non è difficile. Bolzano è uno dei posti con le temperature più alte in Italia in estate. Bolzano è diversa dal resto della regione, non c'è aria.
forse sei corretto. cioe' ci sono stato li la scorsa estate ma non rimase per tanto perche' c'erano molti indiani li. molto triste.
>cioe' ci sono stato li la scorsa estate ma non rimase
chi non rimase? LMAO
io, porzel. u know what i meant. idgaf abt spelling mistakes in guinea tounge
Bro both Bolzano and Trento peak 8°C higher than Cortina every summer.
It's not as hot as in the plains, but goddamn I hate living at the valley's bottom in summer.
>raeto-roman
So, the Piedmontese are not italians?
Shut the fuck up you fucking gyppo nagger, go back to Africa-Milano
Yeah dont listen to Mohammad up there
Coglione, I reti erano una popolazione a parte, non hanno nulla a che fare con l'Italia.
You people are amusing, you don't know shit and keep talking like you're the biggest expert on any subject.
the fact that u said sudtirol makes me actually think now that you're a seething kraut troon. lmao seethe. ur never getting the land back
Can't even read. I said I'm Italian. My grandparents migrated here from the North-east of Italy.
Because the cost of living is high compared to the Italian wages, you dumb mutt. Shut your whore mouth if you don't know what you're talking about.
dio can che povero ti sei. vieni in america. vieni in america terrone. paga bene.
>Because no one really cares. Italy gave them lots of grants, grants that the locals will lose would they ever go back under Austria.
Can confirm. I don't want it back at the cost of worse ties with Italy. The Austrians there have not been bothered by anyone since the agreements were signed and the insurgents laid down arms. They're exempt from a lot of taxes and get a ton of gibs. Can't get a better deal than that, best not to push the question anymore, from my perspective. The identity has changed too over the decades, it's neither fully here nor there anymore, the present situation is satisfactory. Still don't think it's right we lost it in WW1 but it's been too long now and that ship has sailed.
At the end of the day I don't think the real problem is the nationality per se. Sure, the locals are Austrians and they should be under Austria but the real problem is the fact that the local culture will be watered down oer time and eventually erased. That is why Mussolini promoted Italian migration to the region. Ethnic genocide.
Why do you think Reinhold Messner has such a big affinity with Tibetans? It's not by chance, it's because he sees in Tibet the same problem his heimat has.
Moreover the reason why Bolzano and its Italians dwellers are so terrible is because we all lost our cultures. My grandparents all came from different places of northern Italy and after two generations I have nothing left of their four cultures. Nothing at all. It would be in the interest of Italians too if they migrated back to hystorically Italian regions instead of staying here, not just in the interest of the local Austrians.
>Why do you think Reinhold Messner has such a big affinity with Tibetans?
Yeti tapped his boipucci
If things go on like this both will be displaced by naggers and nafris in a few decades. And i think that is an even more urgent problem.
>they should be under Austria
Yes, if austrians did not behave like total imperialistic bitches vs italians. We lost Istria and Dalmatia because the austrians, they enacted a cultural genocide and many italian natives left too. South Tyrol IS in the Italian geographic region and thus it is of utmost strategic importance. They can go back beyond the Alps where they ancestors came from not even 1000 years ago if they wish so. The french would have drowned them in naggers and outlawed german altogether
The Italians have no local culture here, this is not Trentino. What the fuck are we even doing here?
It's consistently over that, around 34-36. That's fucking hot. Especially considering there's zero wind in the city.
Where do you live where that's not hot, Africa? If you were a t-shirt and shorts and still sweat buckets then it's hot.
*wear
I live in Oklahoma. It gets up to 42 Celsius and is very humid here. If it's 90 Fahrenheit and dry then it is bearable, it all really depends on humidity.
You tell me. For me over 30° is hot.
This is the only place in Italy with no local dialect. Think about that. No local clothes, no local dialect, no local food. Nothing.
>Austria True Successor of The Holy Roman Empire
Italy is the non white south everything else is rightful Austrian clay
>30 degrees (86 degrees Fahrenheit)
Interesting. To an American this is not hot, especially if it is dry air. I'm assuming it is mostly dry air?
>t. Jamal Henrique Perez Rossi, proud alto atesino
il mio prenome é shanique, non jamal. bigot
>prenome
lol that google translate. Why can't americans refrain from larping as other nationalities, seriously?
>well, I'm 1/164th cherokee, let me tell you about the customs of my people!
lmao it's not google translate. tf? what, you don't want me to say "il" at the beginning of the sentence? i speak like a fine tuscan
We say nome e basta, ma prenome è tecnicamente più corretto, ogni tanto lo trovi in documenti burocratici
prenome isn't Italian and you'd know that if you spoke Italian. That's the french "prénom", which translates to name. What you want is cognome, which translates to surname (french nom).
Dumb larping mutt
prenome is literally what is written on my passport. it is italian, mutt
aspetta aspetta. sbagliatto. prenome isnt written on my passport. it's just nome. but i remember it being on some official document
>we give citizenship to monkeys that speak less italian than even naggers off of boats
no wonder this country is fucked. I would start dumping my amerimutt folder but unfortunately I'm banned from posting pics
My italian is better than ur english. it's not perfect bc i never learned it in school. only at home speaking dialect. u should respect me for at least not giving af about it like a lot of other italians born outside of italy.
i get what ur saying tho. when i was renewing my passport at the consulate, there was this south american mutt who went up to a booth and started speaking. he couldnt speak any italian and only blurted out one-word english phrases. lmao
for giving some fuck about it i meant to say
Your Italian is not better than my English for sure. I have a C1 Cambridge. You need humble yourself and recognize reality for what it is.
>tfw when only B2 certified
It's over
If you can post here and understand youtube videos you're c2 proficient anyway, the piece of paper only matters for your cv.
Gotta say b2 is worthless though, I got it for french and spanish but I definitely don't know either language to the level the certification implies, the tests are just ridiculously easy to game.
>you need humble yourself
lmao. You need TO humble yourself. My italian is good. i said rimase instead of rimasto bc I was editing it my sentence and forgot to change the conjugation or whatever it's called. You, on the other hand, sound like a Bangladeshi immigrant fresh off the boat.
anon your italian is objectively not great, I mean no offense but the bingo bongo begging for a euro in front of my supermarket speaks better Italian than you do
I literally never learned Italian in any official capacity (no school in italian, no at home tutoring, etc., never learned how to spell) and on top of that, am typing on fucking LULZ. My italian is not perfect, but when I stay in italy for more than a month and a half, I become fluent. It's hard to stay fluent in Italian when you live in a country like USA, where I never get to use the language.
Kek, I made a typing mistake, embarrassing. We could be here all day and I would make a few mistakes here and there but nothing major, I type far better than the average American poster who uses would of/could of. No chance any Bangladeshi who wasn't educated in Eton and Oxford knows English better than me and you know that well.
You Italian is decent enough to communicate but you're not C1.
Sudtirol is amazing, you plains rat. The only bad place is Bolzano because it's full of Italians.
t. Italian.
I've never seen that mistake before. Everyone says would've/could've. is that what they teach you in english school? lmao.
>Your Italian is decent enough to communicate but you're not C1.
fine. i'll accept that. im being pressured to move back to italy but idk whether to go back. i want to improve my italian and leave the hellhole of muttland but there aren't many good opportunities in italy.
It's because I wanted to say something else and then I changed my mind half-way.
>Everyone says would've/could've
Americans type would of and could of all the time.
>My italian is better than ur english
that's hardly an accomplishment lmao. Stop larping as something you are not, pedrito
stop guinea. ur hurting my feelings
anon it's the translation.
The passport says: Nome. Given names. Prénom
yea idk y but i thought it was on my passport. it's not. i remember it being on some official document when i was filing some government papers. but irl i would never say prenome lol.
>it's our land
No
>it's our land
Italy is a Belgium tier country that shouldn't even exist. Garibaldi was a hack and Viktor Emanuel sucked dick
Italy should exist but not like this. We should be a federal republic where the local governments have more power than the central one.
>belgium tier country
jfc that's not even close to true
Its a nice place.
>no responses
Lol
Pathetic potatonagger btfo once again
Markus Lanz must go back.
>why haven't the Italians given back the land yet?
Because the germans there prefer being an automonous region in Italy than being part of Austria
Alto Adige is Italian
Gdansk is Polish
>what's the seasonal weather like?
Moderately cold and snowy winters, warm-ish and humid summers in the low valley getting cooler the higher you go.
>it is expensive to live?
Not particularly.
>what are the people like?
Same as terronia, an even mix of people working their asses off and utter welfare naggers with no real inbetween.
Some mountain israelites will pretend they don't speak italian, but they quickly get embarrassed and drop it if you look at them like the retards they are.
>is there much work available?
Mostly tourism related jobs, which tend to be seasonal
>why haven't the Italians given back the land yet?
Austrians don't want them, they know the locals have no intentions to give up on their local privileges and are a net negative with them.
>>it is expensive to live?
>Not particularly.
Trentino spotted. Alto Adige has the same real estate prices as Milan.
Shit pay, expensive food, expensive real estate, Mountains suck ass, shitalians can have it.
it's not fucking expensive lmao. why is everyone saying it's expensive. maybe the europoor meme is true lol.
Fuck you, give me an oil rig worker job in US, I piss off everytime.
>hurr durr work for a month like an american oil rig worker on a alm for 1600€
Lower your tones, this shit sucks ass.
Tyrol-apples are to die for is all I know
I hate going for a walk in the alps. I hate I hate I hate it help me
Please migrate to the south of Italy and Bleached our brown compatriots. If you are brown yourself then I am sorry to say but we are full.
I am out. This thread is boring.
This. I came to this thread for Austrian vs Italian bants and I'm here with diddly squat
The only reason Italy hasnt given it back is because they are still mad at the allies for only getting Tyrol and Trieste as a victory prizd for WWI and they are damn well gunna keep what little they were given
Also gib back Savoy and Istria to Italy too
>>why haven't the Italians given back the land yet?
Because as bad as Italy is, Austria is argueably far worse.
>in Italian... my great grandmother's cat was from Italy.
Could all you humourless mutt homosexuals plz fuck off so I can shit on pasta chimps. Tyrol is ficking shite, all of it. Take innsbruck with you as well and all the fucking chink insect cunts it's infected with.
>in Italian... my great grandmother's cat was from Italy.
I simply don't understand why amerimutts do this lol
>Be Italian
>Get curb stomped by Hapsburgs for 100 years
>Defeat Austria after one gorillian battle of isonzos
>Occupy sud Tyrol
Yas!! Glorious Italian victory over the northern invaders .
>be Italian
>your leaders throw you to the meatgrinder
>still manage to achieve something
There's a reason why here we say "armiamoci e partite".
the history of tyrol at the end of the war and in the post-war period was pretty interesting, it's right up there with Argentina in terms of places where nazis fled to