Is it so easy, then? Shortcut to the void? I hope not: in fact, it might be the most complicated question that you don't have the answer for - at what point are you allowed to determine that your existence serves no purpose to anyone? Or is suicide merely the final expression of one who is declaring that they are unfit to live in this universe despite those who would claim otherwise?
What exactly is it that makes one certain that ending their life is the best option for anyone but them, and how is that not the pinnacle of narcissism?
Ask the Nobody.
They never seem to respond to the voicemails, lol...
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Ask /NG) Nobody General thread.
Wait - is *that* that magic 4-chan board where I'll find all the answers?! Awesome; I'll charge a crystal and go ask my annoying questions there!
Background: I increasingly know people who kill themselves, and every time it's the same story, and I'm tired of this story, and I've been on the precipice of this story. Can we talk about this?
What's the story?
The nobody killed himself today
I understand why Hitler killed himself. But if that means he was sent to some place where he didn't have to face the things he did while living, then miss me with that escapist bullshit. I want accountability. This universe is built from a combination of imagination and intention, and that means there must be a reckoning between the two. I don't fear it, but how manipulative and self-interested at the cost of others must one be in order to?
he didn't retard
"He" who? Hitler? The dude literally retarded when he believed in a "pure genetic humanity," lol. Like lrn 2 science bruh; there's no such thing because we're all like 99.9% similar in terms of DNA (sorry, /misc/)... He killed himself because he was so deeply invested in a bad bet that he didn't see a way out, and I'm saying I want to stop the bullet and put the muthafucka in therapy. Like, I want to hear him talk this whole philosophy out... I'm actually angry at him for just taking the lazy way out tbh lol. What an asshole.
Someone seriously needs yo get the podestas off of LULZ
That makes literally no sense in any way to me. Please clarify what you're trying to say.
There will be profound consequences in the next realm for intentionally ending your own life, although I don’t think any of us can tell exactly what those consequences will be, but you will not enter the void in the same way as someone who dies from forces outside of their control. I’d assume there are exceptions to this though, such as sacrificing yourself for a greater cause or to save another person, like many do in war.
Continue to seek out and don your spiritual armor, and you will find that no amount of suffering will be able to drive you to suicide. The longer you suffer and the more you learn to deal with it and know it’s beauty, the greater your rewards shall be.
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>no amount of suffering will be able to drive you to suicide
Dude, I know *so* many people who killed themselves at this point.
And they all had "spiritual armor."
You're sort of being an asshole right now.
So have I, and came very close to it myself. But there are also people who have suffered far more and persevered thanks to their faith. I certainly don’t want to imply that people either of us have known were weak, just that they weren’t given the right tools.
>If you’re suffering too much then kill yourself
That’s basically what you just said.
>But there are also people who have suffered far more and persevered thanks to their faith
No but their faith in what?
I'm honestly curious. Their faith in what?
It can be different for everyone. Personally, Christ, but im not deluded enough to think that’s the only answer. I used to be a pretty hardcore atheist until I read the Narrative of Cabeza de Vaca, learning how he sustained himself by thinking of Christ’s suffering on the cross while he suffered unimaginable hardship and watching nearly everyone around him die changed my thinking permanently.
I suffer from schizophrenia due to these nobodyfag glowies
That seems pretty reasonable. I mean, dying from war is different from suicide, even if you elected to join the war. However, Kamikaze pilots are not exempt from this, because they committed their entire identity to whatever war in which they self-sacrificed. This is true for all martyrs, I suspect. I guess I'm arguing against the existence of martyrs, though... but why shouldn't I?
I was thinking about the kamikaze thing as I typed that out as well as suicide bombers. I’m inclined to think they don’t have the same consequences as suicide, given that they were dying for a cause they truly believed in and they believed they were protecting their people. That doesn’t mean they necessarily go to the same place as someone who dies with absolutely no choice over it, but it is different than killing yourself for nothing other than trying to escape your personal suffering.
No yeah. I mean, it's probably impossibly complicated, but it does seem to come down to the question of whether or not you actually believe your death will effect a positive change for others. Not many cases where that's true anymore, though. innit?
There are no consequences for killing yourself other than realizing that killing yourself does not solve the problem you actually wish to escape from. This realization is enough to get one to finally face the adversity they are avoiding.
>and how is that not the pinnacle of narcissism?
Shit like that is pinnacle of bootlickerism and total lack of self respect and dignity.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "bootlickerism," There have been suicides that stuck it to the man, but they're just extremely few and far between, and belong to a past that doesn't exist in contemporaneity. Wild swing, tho.
>What exactly is it that makes one certain that ending their life is the best option for anyone but them
Atheism and infantile naivetete.
Wild ride has no easy end and no normal suicide can end it.
Though hopefully there is ritual, amulet or spell that could end ones existence.
Just link to your MLM and get it over with, lol...
"TW" better not stand for what I think it stands for
Oh, noes: what if it stands for that?
It depends on if we're talking about some old fuck who is already at death's door and is basically just living out a prolonged and agonizing death in slow motion already, and just wants to end the pain quicker for everyone's sake, or some otherwise healthy individual who is in some way unfit or incapable of dealing with the stresses of their life.
I think in the former case everyone including their loved ones would agree that it would be more merciful and dignified to go out on their own terms rather than suffer pointlessly to the point of indignity.
In the latter case it becomes far more complicated and boils down to individual beliefs revolving around humanitarianism, religious convictions, ethics, etc. It would also come down to the individual's own unique circumstances. Ultimately I would always rather see someone get help and learn ways to manage and deal with their pain, but as someone who was also once suicidal and could have easily fallen into one of those statistics, I can empathize with those who see it as their only way out. People who are suicidal have emotional tunnel vision, they're suffering to the point of delusion and can't see any other possibility than suffering. Usually these kind of people will go on to live if they can get through the crisis that is only happening in the short term.
As far as potential spiritual ramifications are concerned. I can't think of any religious or socially accepted spiritual movements that say suicide is ever a good thing, it's almost universally condemned as something that will at the very least be frowned upon by a given deity/deities. Would a deity be willing to make exceptions for unique cases or specific circumstances? Yes, actually. If death is otherwise already a guarantee, and suicide is simply a way to make it more merciful, such as being captured by slavers, rapists, murderers, etc, then there are quite a few religions that make suicide acceptable. The general caveat though is that death has to already be a guarantee and it is something that is immediately impending. Basically if you're already fucked, and suicide is just the less painful option, God ain't gonna demerit you. Cancer patients (that are in the terminal stages), old people near the end of their life, people who have been abducted and tortured, etc.
I'm the NOBODY.
I've attempted suicide twice, the first time I chickened out, second time I was too stupid remember I had unloaded my gun when I cleaned it a week before. I kept repeating to myself that everything would be better once I got to the other side, and that I wouldn't be able to bring down my loved ones anymore. The panic of still being alive after I pulled the trigger caused me to wake my younger brother. He woke my family and I was in a hospital the next day, talking to a shrink. A few years of meds and therapy, working hard, building a life and getting fit both physically and mentally have done nothing. I still never feel joy and will forever me alone. I still think about dying every night. I'm just afraid to hurt my family after they've tried so hard to help me.
And you still don't know that if you had "succeeded," you wouldn't wake up in exactly the same spot, do you?
Yeah right, " "nobody" ". nobodyfag
Don’t be a pussy, come to Mexico and take 5-MEO-DMT. It will set you straight.
Sounds like a low life trailer trash edgelord food stamps dry jumping fucktard shit
I dont think dmt's gonna help.
> The panic of still being alive after I pulled the trigger caused me to wake my younger brother.
Anon, are you sure you are not mistaking panic with joy in realizing you are still alive?
Definitely not joy
looked up tw, ur gay hahaha. ur gay too haha. not being happy should not be the end of the world. Unless you actually fucking bombed at life like you owe a million dollars or you're going to go to jail for ten years. There is no honor is not killing yourself, often just more shame. If we're talking about spiritual consequences, it could I guess be considered self-murder lol. But there are so many variations, I would imagine how the person feels and goes about doing it would matter more than the reasons. Like if you kill yourself over a girl, why? Are you just lost in life? Do you jump out of a window? Does she ruin your life and you blow your head off? Do you just miss her so much you hang yourself? And what if it is like prolonged, or sudden, or both? And what kind of person in general has she made you up to then? Can you just not take the pain or is it a romantic gesture? And how do you feel about the suicide itself? Do you feel anything at all, or are you so consumed with life that even as you do it you still are feeling trapped, do you feel shame or freedom? Or martyrdom or victimized?
Or do you just kill yourself because you can't stop thinking about killing yourself lol maybe a supernatural being will actually judge your amount of suffering. he thinks you were just a wimp so you go to hell haha. or maybe how you feel matters. I think if you kill yourself after landing a game changing blow to your enemy, or just happy you are dead, you will enter afterlife feeling accomplished.
Suicide weakens the eternal soul. Imagine you were playing a game of gambling, a game that has consequences and rewards.
If you make this world a better place, you win the game, and you get to experience so much joy in the void.
If you suicide, you will hate yourself for it, and relive all the pain you’ve had in this life. Then the next journey willl be tarnished by this as well.
(You could say that’s unfair, but believe it or not, these rules were made by *you*. You won’t be punidhed by some demon or whatever, you will punish yourself)
Do it! Bet you can't drugfag
Medically assisted suicide will become a reality soon enough. It'll replace transgender hysteria as the new talking point that everyone is discussing and arguing over.
suicide should be decrimilnalized. osho was the only spiritual person who accepted suicide(euthanazia) as the way out for some people.
What do you mean is suicide criminalized? Like what, they're gonna fine and imprison my corpse lmao
Did you just post a fucking trigger warning?? On fucking LULZ? I hope you do kill yourself nagger homosexual