She was on blockers for too long before she was allowed to take HRT. Sex hormones cause ossification of your skeleton so if your puberty gets delayed for years and years your skeleton just keeps on growing.
This, being on blockers until 16/18 whatever is not natural so basically she never had the usual increase in sex hormones from puberty which is what signals hgh to decrease and bones to stop growing. Hgh can actually frick you up just as much as t
She still passes to normies though
2 years ago
Anonymous
But people have earlier puberties these days because of all the plastic and hormone shit in the environment, yet the average height keeps increasing? It can't that simple.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go and read about science if you want to actually learn about the links between hormones and bone growth. Puberty blockers resulting in people growing taller is a very well documented and understood phenomenon. For example, eunuchs grow taller too. People's heights increasing is a mixture of sexual selection but mainly due to less malnutrition meaning that people are able to develop to their full height potential, and also growth hormones being given to farm animals being present in meat/dairy that people eat.
Also, exposure to environmental xenoestrogens and stuff generally decreases the effect of hormones because they bind to the same receptors but with lower affinity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Interesting, in other words we have a cure for manletism. Put every boy on blockers until he's 16 and then just stop and let their normal hormone production take over. Ironically by delaying their growth to men they actually end up men instead of manlets.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Put every boy on blockers until he's 16 and then just stop and let their normal hormone production take over
you can't do that, that will literally ruin they puberty, you can't get 100% of it back if you block it
2 years ago
bartender
Well they use puberty blockers on cis kids a lot to treat precocious puberty (when they start puberty dangerously early). in most cases development resumes as normal when they stop blockers but yeah there is some risk
2 years ago
bartender
Well they would grow taller than otherwise yes, but also there are still a lot of different genes that can affect height so like some people would still be shorter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You risk fricking up other parts of their development like penis growth and infertility.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are wasting your time trying to explain endocrinology to people that literally think XY contains bone DNA.
HRT doesn't affect DNA and Bones
When you are born a male you are going to be a male
Intersex people have determined this theory is nonsense.
Estrogen is the hormone that tells the growth plates to close, it's why women are shorter than men. If you're a AMAB on puberty blockers like she was, no testosterone also means no estrogen because no aromatase is happening, therefore she kept growing for longer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
intersex is a disorder not the norm
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nooo you can't determine how hormones actually work in the body based upon observing changes in people with different hormone levels, my preschooler understanding of biology is sacred and trueeee reeeeee
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are ignoring the fact their existence proves the "bones are male because of DNA" part wrong. It is driven by hormones.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I bet none of these trannies are born intersex too
they have a perfectly fine XY chromies
thats why HRT doesn't work
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not how intersex works, besides:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415463/
There is a genetic link to transgenderism
You have a penis, balls, no ovaries, no womb. No space for a womb anyways. Your brain is different. Your bones are different. Your metabolism, your diaphragm, your muscle constitution.
Just because you inject yourself with one of the hormones women produce, doesn't mean you'll become one.
Just because some people are genetically disordered doesn't mean that we're able to switch sexes.
I know your life isn't good. Your mental health isn't great. Your social life is suffering, and you feel like everyone is against you behind your back. But your sex isn't the problem.
It isn't your height, your hair color, your race. It isn't a problem with any of these things you can't change. And if you try to mask them, you're only doing just that: masking the problem.
Stop fixating on all these things you think can "solve" the problem and accept that you don't have to be a certain way. You need to build a life off of the things you can't change in order to change the things you can
It does affect dna and bones that's literally how it works lol. it's just girls normally start puberty much younger than they let trannies on blockers have e which makes bones grow too much. It's literally because hormones affect dna and bones that she's so tall, she probably wouldn't be that tall as a cis guy either because t would have affected her bones too
Maybe they should be blasting young tranners with estrogen instead of blockers and letting them become eunuchs first. I can't imagine that going down well with people though.
I had a Eurovision watch party last year with a bunch of normie friends, where she was one of the co-hosts, and all of my normie friends who know barely anything about trans people all refered to her as her and didn't assume anything suspicious and were all super shocked by the end when I revelead she is trans. She passes perfectly, stop obsessing over every possible feature.
Passing to oblivious normies in what is basically fishy drag queen tier getup isn't exactly passing. She isn't seen like that 24/7/365 and even if she is, it takes just one who isn't a blind oblivious moron to out her. She is a fricking giant by even male standards, and that exposes her to extreme scrutiny for trans-ness. Normie morons think of Caitlyn Jenner when they think of troons, they don't what a troon who started to transition before they're fricking 40 looks like.
Fish would imply she looks cis, moron. And women's full glam looks today are like drag queen levels of makeup so that argument makes no sense. Young b***hes cake that shit on. You've got brainworms.
why are you harping on about "biological male" and "not intersex" when you don't understand how intersex works, and that her bones were driven by hormones?
You are aware that testosterone blockers exist and commonly used? That bloodworks can be done to determine the level of estrogen and testosterone and compared to women's levels?
she literally passed and built a career as a youtuber stealth until someone outed her. you wouldn’t know to this day that she was trans if that hadn’t happened.
this 2m tall landwhale was unironically stealth to normalgays until her video reveal, /lgbt/ BTFO
her midface is actually compact, a good trait for females (and according to lookism theorists also for males if it's accompanied by other traits like a tall lower third, etc)
I'm 6ft 3, Nikkitutorials was unironically a source of comfort for me, although I'm a Troon I can still be a woman, look at Nikki she's got some kind of Nordic genes and maybe I could pass it off for being Dutch.
I do admit living in NL is basically never having to worry about being a heighthon. She's tall yeah, but then again i see absolute units like her strolling through town every weekend. Out of all female colleagues I have im basically just above average at 5'10
She's a big girl
4u
but she got on hrt like suuuuuper early
She was on blockers for too long before she was allowed to take HRT. Sex hormones cause ossification of your skeleton so if your puberty gets delayed for years and years your skeleton just keeps on growing.
This, being on blockers until 16/18 whatever is not natural so basically she never had the usual increase in sex hormones from puberty which is what signals hgh to decrease and bones to stop growing. Hgh can actually frick you up just as much as t
She still passes to normies though
But people have earlier puberties these days because of all the plastic and hormone shit in the environment, yet the average height keeps increasing? It can't that simple.
Go and read about science if you want to actually learn about the links between hormones and bone growth. Puberty blockers resulting in people growing taller is a very well documented and understood phenomenon. For example, eunuchs grow taller too. People's heights increasing is a mixture of sexual selection but mainly due to less malnutrition meaning that people are able to develop to their full height potential, and also growth hormones being given to farm animals being present in meat/dairy that people eat.
Also, exposure to environmental xenoestrogens and stuff generally decreases the effect of hormones because they bind to the same receptors but with lower affinity.
Interesting, in other words we have a cure for manletism. Put every boy on blockers until he's 16 and then just stop and let their normal hormone production take over. Ironically by delaying their growth to men they actually end up men instead of manlets.
>Put every boy on blockers until he's 16 and then just stop and let their normal hormone production take over
you can't do that, that will literally ruin they puberty, you can't get 100% of it back if you block it
Well they use puberty blockers on cis kids a lot to treat precocious puberty (when they start puberty dangerously early). in most cases development resumes as normal when they stop blockers but yeah there is some risk
Well they would grow taller than otherwise yes, but also there are still a lot of different genes that can affect height so like some people would still be shorter.
You risk fricking up other parts of their development like penis growth and infertility.
You are wasting your time trying to explain endocrinology to people that literally think XY contains bone DNA.
Your body is operating on your sexes blue-prints.
Staple on a truck bed and add desiel fuel to a Ford focus and you don't get a Chevy Silverado.
well yeah, you forgot to swap the logo
Intersex people have determined this theory is nonsense.
Estrogen is the hormone that tells the growth plates to close, it's why women are shorter than men. If you're a AMAB on puberty blockers like she was, no testosterone also means no estrogen because no aromatase is happening, therefore she kept growing for longer.
intersex is a disorder not the norm
>nooo you can't determine how hormones actually work in the body based upon observing changes in people with different hormone levels, my preschooler understanding of biology is sacred and trueeee reeeeee
You are ignoring the fact their existence proves the "bones are male because of DNA" part wrong. It is driven by hormones.
I bet none of these trannies are born intersex too
they have a perfectly fine XY chromies
thats why HRT doesn't work
That's not how intersex works, besides:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415463/
There is a genetic link to transgenderism
you have no idea how it works, do you?
You have a penis, balls, no ovaries, no womb. No space for a womb anyways. Your brain is different. Your bones are different. Your metabolism, your diaphragm, your muscle constitution.
Just because you inject yourself with one of the hormones women produce, doesn't mean you'll become one.
Just because some people are genetically disordered doesn't mean that we're able to switch sexes.
I know your life isn't good. Your mental health isn't great. Your social life is suffering, and you feel like everyone is against you behind your back. But your sex isn't the problem.
It isn't your height, your hair color, your race. It isn't a problem with any of these things you can't change. And if you try to mask them, you're only doing just that: masking the problem.
Stop fixating on all these things you think can "solve" the problem and accept that you don't have to be a certain way. You need to build a life off of the things you can't change in order to change the things you can
>Be born male
>Grow up with male features
How does this even happen?
Nikki Tutorial's deadname is Nicolas Tutorials
HRT doesn't affect DNA and Bones
When you are born a male you are going to be a male
It does affect dna and bones that's literally how it works lol. it's just girls normally start puberty much younger than they let trannies on blockers have e which makes bones grow too much. It's literally because hormones affect dna and bones that she's so tall, she probably wouldn't be that tall as a cis guy either because t would have affected her bones too
Maybe they should be blasting young tranners with estrogen instead of blockers and letting them become eunuchs first. I can't imagine that going down well with people though.
>tfw I pass better than her with no makeup
I won.
I had a Eurovision watch party last year with a bunch of normie friends, where she was one of the co-hosts, and all of my normie friends who know barely anything about trans people all refered to her as her and didn't assume anything suspicious and were all super shocked by the end when I revelead she is trans. She passes perfectly, stop obsessing over every possible feature.
Someone said to me "I don't know who this Dutch woman is but she is pleasingly huge"
Passing to oblivious normies in what is basically fishy drag queen tier getup isn't exactly passing. She isn't seen like that 24/7/365 and even if she is, it takes just one who isn't a blind oblivious moron to out her. She is a fricking giant by even male standards, and that exposes her to extreme scrutiny for trans-ness. Normie morons think of Caitlyn Jenner when they think of troons, they don't what a troon who started to transition before they're fricking 40 looks like.
Fish would imply she looks cis, moron. And women's full glam looks today are like drag queen levels of makeup so that argument makes no sense. Young b***hes cake that shit on. You've got brainworms.
>She is a fricking giant by even male standards
weak
>She is a fricking giant by even male standards
that's based, i want her to dom me
she's hot tho
Aren't the Dutch naturally tall?
Yeah it's how she managed to stay stealth for so long
>gigahon
so i guess gigahons can go stealth now huh
dutch genetics + puberty blockers
Cause she was born a biological male and not an intersex. Testosterone are alot more stronger than the estrogen he injects himself
why are you harping on about "biological male" and "not intersex" when you don't understand how intersex works, and that her bones were driven by hormones?
You are aware that testosterone blockers exist and commonly used? That bloodworks can be done to determine the level of estrogen and testosterone and compared to women's levels?
This person's understanding of endocrinology and genetics is on par with the average medieval peasant lol don't bother
Even medieval peasants knew that eunuches grew taller than average.
ig that's true I'm sorry for overstating anons intelligence ):
she literally passed and built a career as a youtuber stealth until someone outed her. you wouldn’t know to this day that she was trans if that hadn’t happened.
I legit thought he was a drag queen
you're brainwormed
this 2m tall landwhale was unironically stealth to normalgays until her video reveal, /lgbt/ BTFO
her midface is actually compact, a good trait for females (and according to lookism theorists also for males if it's accompanied by other traits like a tall lower third, etc)
his midface is alot more obvious without makeup
She's hot
You're gay
she's an actual ogre moder
that’s what happens when you get blockers instead of real hrt
hormone blockers during pre-teen years like 11~12, HRT around age 14. is this the correct? is it healthy?
i would let her dick me down
His testosterone that develop in the womb was alot more stronger than his HRT.
>this woman was stealth for nearly a decade
>”omg he’s such a hon”
Why is this board like this?
>average dutch woman
none of you homosexuals had any idea she was trans until she got outed
>none of you homosexuals had any idea she was trans until she got outed
Wrong. I didn't watch her channel because I'm not a homosexual.
shouldn’t have been dutch
it's normal for turboyoungshits to end up super tall because of blockers
I'm 6ft 3, Nikkitutorials was unironically a source of comfort for me, although I'm a Troon I can still be a woman, look at Nikki she's got some kind of Nordic genes and maybe I could pass it off for being Dutch.
Then she got outed as trans ;~;
I do admit living in NL is basically never having to worry about being a heighthon. She's tall yeah, but then again i see absolute units like her strolling through town every weekend. Out of all female colleagues I have im basically just above average at 5'10
Wasn't she clocked live on television by Ellen or someshit?
doesn't look like a man, just overweight