>try to be a likable nice person
>come off as extremely boring
>try to be an alpha "bad boy" with some edge
>come off as a spergy asshole
My personality is even more garbage than my looks and is just as genetically impossible to change
>try to be a likable nice person. >come off as extremely boring
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same bro i also learned the hard way that it doesnt matter whether youre nice or rude, as long as youre ugly people will always react bad. like some reverse halo effect
>tries people pleasing and being a cartoon character, predictably neither work
>"it's over"
If it makes you feel better I'm attractive and still repulsed people by being a nice guy like op
fuck being a "likable nice person" fuck being a "alpha "bad boy" with some edge"
be interesting
>fuck being a "likable nice person" fuck being a "alpha "bad boy" with some edge"
>be *****handsome*****
I like how with the self improvement shit it's ALWAYS your fault.
"Being myself" would be never speaking to anyone ever or having any social interactions whatsoever because I hate it and it gives me anxiety. Being myself is me just looking at the ground.
To even have talk to someone it takes so much willpower and effort. Trying to just do what came naturally and be nice was what I tried first but all it resulted in what no one wanting to talk to me because I'm boring. Then I tried being assertive and an asshole and it just resulted in no one wanting to talk to me cause that's unpleasent I guess.
It's impossible to not be boring if you're boring naturally because I literally don't have the verbal IQ to think of interesting things to say. My mind goes blank 90% of the time when I'm talking to someone. Someone like that can never be interesting.
It is always your fault in their eyes. Deep down they know some people just won't ever get in to a relationship but they're too scared to admit it because that's what incels believe and incels are le bad
Are you 100% sure you or any guy is an incel. All it takes is for 1 girl to be into you to disprove that you're an incel.
Well call me when you've found her because I've given up
Have you actually gotten zero interest from girls? Have you really tried all that hard? There's a lot of guys who think they are 1/10 or 2/10 who are really 5/10. They missed girls showing interest, or they self sabotaged potential situations before they even started.
NTA, but I've never had any interest from girls. Ever. I've never been approached by a woman, or complimented by one in a way that wasn't her pretending to be nice.
If that is actually true then i guess you can call yourself an incel.
>it's ALWAYS your fault.
Well, yeah. The alternative is, what? Blaming everyone else for not wanting to talk to a boring sperg? Do you just want people to pity you, and force themselves to talk to you, like a make-a-wish retarded child?
It isn't your fault that you ended up like this, it is your fault if you continue to be. You clearly do want to talk to people, on some level, so "being yourself" isn't shutting up and avoiding people. Figure out what you really want and probably get some actual help.
Exactly. You can improve. Men are meant to improve.
The amount of time, effort, and money it would take to meet a woman's standard is not worth it. Your idea of improvement is growing to support a society that hates us. Even if we could do that, why would we want to now that we know what we know?
Women have lower standards for older guys, how old are you?
Women have lower standards for older men because they tend to have more money. Even if I pursued that angle I'd still just be getting a shallow zoomer girl who doesn't actually like me and will leave me the second something better comes along
So you admit that "just be yourself" is a meme argument.
It is a meme argument. It kinda becomes true when you improve though. You can't just be yourself completely that would be like telling a 400 lb person they don't have to change. There are parts of them they can and will retain though.
When and where did you learn that you are boring?
You do have hobbies/interests right? at the very least you seem to enjoy being here
How to you be cone interesting
Please no meme answers like "just hike bike and crypto kike"
Hmmm... i would say ask yourself the right questions.
do you know who you are?
do you know your strengths? weaknesses? interests? dislikes?
do you have an identity?
if no figure these out if yes accept them.
Don't try to hide any of those things. Express them.
Sounds wayyyyyy simpler than it is i can tell you that much!
After that you can use your own identity to have conversations with people.
Are you an autistic sperg that likes trains? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
You love femboy hentai and fap to them twice a day? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
You never finish projects cause after the prototype you loose all interest? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
You question the morality of vegans? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
Is your first thought when people say "come over here you retard" "but bro i can shoot that far ill probably cant even get hard when you are watching"? Guess what you are gonna say.
That to me at least sounds like someone interesting i wanna talk to
I can try to clarify further if that resonates and is wanted
full disclosure though i am autistic but it worked so far for making friends of all genders.
though i am one of the kissless-hugless-virgins
so yeah
The difference is that only a few things actually interest women, they're very uniform in what they like and don't like in a potential mate's personality.
>Are you an autistic sperg that likes trains? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
>You love femboy hentai and fap to them twice a day? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
>You never finish projects cause after the prototype you loose all interest? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
>You question the morality of vegans? Guess what you are gonna talk about with people.
Women will ghost you if you talk about any of these, they bore her and turn her off.
>Is your first thought when people say "come over here you retard" "but bro i can shoot that far ill probably cant even get hard when you are watching"? Guess what you are gonna say.
Women will only like this one specifically if you're hot, if you aren't it's a massive turn-off and creepy.
This reeks of a shit-test designed to weed out men with undesirable interests, so it's easier for women to find those with desirable interests. "Just be yourself" is a meme-tier argument, and never actually works. Hence why bluepillers immediately do a 180 and larp about "muh self-improooooovement" when you point this out.
>Women will ghost you if you talk about any of these, they bore her and turn her off.
definitely not from my experience
fun fact i got a date once by texting her a greentext that tldr mfw she will never be my wife and talking about hentai preferences
>Women will only like this one specifically if you're hot, if you aren't it's a massive turn-off and creepy.
well if we are talking about dating isnt that exactly what we want?
Why waste time on someone who isnt interested?
You are the definition of a "nice guy".
Pretending to be something ur not for puss puss lmao. It's so obvious to everyone around you too thats why it never works.
same here but I gave up and now people think I'm a possible shooter or domestic terrorist because I know basic chemistry
I don't know how to hold a conversation and to be honest that's ok given how normies can only talk about movies, series and corporate music
only nice people I found to talk are some guys from a baja and fsae team that's mostly composed of undergrad mechanical engineers
yeah be authentic op
as much as it seems like people to but people do hate "fakes"
This is good advice if by authentic, you mean attractive. Women decide if you're worth talking to before you ever open your mouth.
your point?
the goal is to socialize with people that dont dislike you based on your looks and actually do wanna talk with you no?
Are you retarded? My point is that your personality doesn't matter. All that matters is if you're physically attractive or not.
So what only 10/10 have ANY social interaction with other people?
Being ugly makes things more difficult for sure but that doesn't mean its literally impossible to be social at all
>the goal is to socialize with people that dont dislike you based on your looks and actually do wanna talk with you no?
The issue is that "people who dislike you based on your looks" consists of every single woman, and the majority of men.
"Just be yourself" is a meme-tier argument, women hate guys that are authentic if that authentic personality isn't "stoic, dark-triad alpha male".
well what kinda people have you had social interactions with in your life?
Out of those which ones did you interact more with?
Its the way you look, not the way you act.
Can confirm, Anon. As a handsome guy, I get admired the same whether I act nice or bad. Even if I shit my pants in public, people offer me diarrhea relief medicine, and help me clean myself up.
Focus on getting a better pair of parents in the next life, maybe...
>try to be
There's your problem. You need to be yourself.
You people are are delusional retards. Looks matter WAYY less the older you get. Your brains are stuck in fucking middle school. Even women in their early 20s would rather talk to an interesting 5/10 than a boring 10/10
>Even women in their early 20s would rather talk to an interesting 5/10 than a boring 10/10
Keep telling yourself that, fag
Tell r/inceltear we said hi
I'd argue with you but the fact you'll probably end up killing yourself because of this problem you made up in your head is hilarious, so just go ahead champ
Age plays a role. A 25 year old has more leeway with the attraction that some 18 year olds would have to them. Meaning that there will be girls who looked like girls that would have ignored him at 18 showing interest in him, even if he's not 8/10.
I had girls who were 7/10s and even higher show interest in me. I'm a manlet and all i did was work out a little. I'm not ugly, but i'm not hot either.
>Even women in their early 20s would rather talk to an interesting 5/10 than a boring 10/10
And women will perform mental gymnastics to themselves to argue why the 10/10 is actually super interesting and therefore justify their attraction, even if he's the most boring individual known to man.
i wanna see you turn down that 10/10 in favor of that 5/10 then
Young women have lower standards for older men.
your looks IS your personality, buddy. and you suffer from the failo effect so anything you do will be perceived negatively.
>gave up on being likeable and became a vile piece of shit
>never been happier
You should try it some time
Can u post a step by a step guide?
-zoomoid
Don't be a nice guy and don't be an asshole. Just be the guy that doesn't care. That's probably not your nature though so tough luck.