Trash or misunderstood masterpiece?

The Toyota MR2 Spyder

Should I buy this or a miata?

All slander or appreciation are welcome. This thread will decide if I buy it instead of a miata NC which go around for similar prices albeit not as in good shape as this particular Toyota (pic related).

For context:

>81k miles
>$10k
>2 owners
>2005 facelift model so no pre-cat issues even though I would remove it regardless as prevention

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Its not an mr2 is Spyder. It's an MRS.
    MR Spyder. They're awful. Toyota cuffed the suspension to deal with snap overseer so the understeers like a God damn monster. Somehow they managed to cramp the engine bay even more than the aw1x and aw2x combined. Might as well cut a tunnel out and run the diff upside down.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This, it's not a real MR2 and it never will be.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        keep seething SW20 owner, the second gen is the odd one out :^)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Correct opinion
          2nd gen fags stay mad

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's the best mr2 they ever made or ever will make

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Not a single word here is correct

      keep seething SW20 owner, the second gen is the odd one out :^)

      Had sw20.
      Mrs is way better in every way other than no hard top.
      Faster, better handling, more fun, shits all over sw20 on tracks, infinetly more reliable, easier to work on.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >MRS Faster than SW20

        I own both, and this right here is bullshit. 3S-GTE SW20 is significantly faster than the MRS for straight line acceleration. MRS definitely handles better, and is a better track car.

        MRS with a 2ZZ-GE swap is damn near perfection though.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    not the worst deal in the current fucked market if its rust free and lacks problems
    that or an NC miata are both pretty comparable in the "i want to get out and push" class
    i would get the NC for more parts availability tbh

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you are going to work on the car yourself get the NC instead, MRS is rather cramped to work on. MRS has barely any frunk space to carry anything compared to the NC. Performance wise they are dead even. MRS has a more neutral setup to how it handles leaning more towards understeer, NC is all about oversteer. NC has a much larger aftermarket if you are going to get into modifying it. Two guys from my driving group have them. From cruising backroads to autocross they both seem to be equally fun.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If it comes with a factory hardtop I'd definitely take the MR2. The Miata will be better for most drivers, but I already had one, so I'm biased towards something different.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Death machine that's why RWD is trash

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I could never see past the red baboon buttcheek taillights

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i dont have tons of experience, but i did recently buy a 2000 mr2 spyder and it's a blast to drive. never heard of the understeer problem and have never encountered understeer while driving it, but im not taking it to the track. in fact, it's pretty easy to oversteer and induce oversteer even with the 1zz and open diff. aftermarket is pretty decent, but tiny compared to a miata. of course being transverse mid engine, it's tough to work on without removing things, but that's part of many mid engine cars. i feel like these will appreciate with time and the op example looks impeccable. if you got the cash, i'd recommend it.

      i will never unsee this now, thanks

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'd love an MR2 but the first two generations are very pricey now. I've been toying around with the idea of getting a spyder but they're all the SMT auto thing in 'straya. Kind of cool that it is a factory pseudo-sequential, but apparently it shifts quite lazily. For similar money I'm sure I could get a slightly worse condition NB or NC MX-5 and have better aftermarket support. I do think the spyder looks quite nice with the factory hardtop, it just gets a bad wrap because of how beautiful and iconic the first two MR2 gens are.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The A&W11 and the 2nd are acceptable for men to drive. These are not. I guess if your other choice is a Miata it doesn't matter.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >A&W11
      My favourite drink

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        2005 oughta be good because you avoid fucked 98-03 piston &ring design flaws
        There's kits to convert from SMT to m/t

        Same

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Bleed

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Seethe more nagger

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You will die

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                wHEN AND wHERE homosexual

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Everywhere

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that's right I've got a full dr7m for you and your accomplices on 280

                We'll see who is the next one laughing mmm'bud

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like a girls car without the hardtop. Needs its gearbox and engine swapped out to be better than the previous gen mr2s. If you're gonna spend all that money doing one up, you may as well just buy a used Elise which is objectively superior in every way except comfort.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Found a 2003 with 30k miles, picked it up quick. I enjoy it as a secondary vehicle; it's fun. Very fucking impractical though lmao, it has zero (0) space.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      just do what i do, take out the passenger seat
      >tips fedora

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Stop gangstalking me and my frog reeeeeeee

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You will have more fun with the mrs

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I've been wondering this as well
    I'm in the UK so prices aren't too crazy and hard tops for both MX-5s and MRS aren't too nuts

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Damn those are cheap
        Best I can find is over 6k€, and they're closer to 200k km

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    MR2 hands down, it's faster, tighter, and just cooler tbh. Feels badass just having a midship at all. at least, to me. I test drove a miata and then the mr2 the next day, it just feels like a direct upgrade and costs less for the same condition.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Buy the MR-S. The only gripes I have is it's a shit daily driver and the aftermarket is relatively expensive compared to miata. But you can easily get them to sun 2000 pounds full interior and I mog miatas at autox consistently. I have more to say if you want to hear it.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    NC Miata. Faster with a better aftermarket, usually cheaper, and not as inflated as the MR2 Spyder because the ND overshadows it (despite being similar in performance)

    Could also pay a little more and finance a $12-15k 12-15 FRS/BRZ

  17. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    MG F

  18. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    IMo they're a trash car but they have the potential to be a good car if you swap the engine for a 2zz.

    What the fuck were toyota thinking when they put a 1zz in this thing?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      they were thinking, we cant have a car that will directly steal sales from our flagship vehicles

  19. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >>81k miles
    >>$10k
    >>2 owners
    you can get a very nice 987 for this price. why would you get that tiny piece of shit?

  20. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Track battle between NC and MR-S

  21. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is it misunderstood? I thought they were well regarded for what they are.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Well regarded by who? The mr-s got the gutless 1zz engine while the corolla and celica got the high performance 2zz variant.
      What is this? Opposite world? The fwd cars get the good engine while the mid-engine "sports car" gets the shit engine?
      Toyota seriously fucked up.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        "For what it is". It's a fun, reliable Toyota. If you want a serious, track-ready, mid-engined performance car get a Cockster or a C8. If you're comparing to a Miata, then a Mister 2 or a Mister S is comparable.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          You're being retarded on purpose. The fwd cars are supposed to get the crappy engine and the MR gets the good engine.
          Toyota did the exact opposite of that.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            So swap it, cunt. Swap it with an LS for all I care.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              This might shock you but 99% of people who buy a car don't swap the engine so you're retarded to normalize such things.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you're just feeble. Enjoy your cück box

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Enjoy your cück box
                Thanks I will

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                pretty dope

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not my problem

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                it's WAY less than 99%. 1 in a hundred is nowhere near close. it's more like 99.999%

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        2zz swap is about as easy as an engine swap gets

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          this, its the same as swapping a B18c1 into a non VTEC chassis
          i.e. uses same engine mounts, ecu plug n play. *maybe a little re pinning of the ecu harness for the VVT

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