I don't understand sports hons. Nobody considers their wins legitimate and they're horribly damaging the community with their bullshit, what is their end game?
this. you have a fucking male body. no amount of hormones is going to delete what you grew up with lmfao. Why is this even a debate? Even as a mtf myself I can't imagine competing in sports with women. It's just not fair at all.
Literally none of you have ever played any kind of sports? It’s not something you can just give up because you transitioned, it’s like a personal journey that you pursue and try to master. They just want to compete, not to tear anybody down. The fact that they identify as women and compete with cis women despite their advantages shouldn’t imply they are trying to cheat or be unfair
Q: Is a trans specific category with the MTF and FTMS together a reasonable choice going forward?
>The fact that they identify as women and compete with cis women despite their advantages shouldn’t imply they are trying to cheat or be unfair
Thinking that unfair cheaters are NOT going to exploit the fuck out of T rules is as delusional as a "you pass!" hugbox on r/
yeah mountain bikes are marketed towards obese people who are too inept to ride on roads without dying and too ashamed to wear normal cycling clothes so they invented a whole "dress code" for MTB consisting of baggy below the knee shorts, skater shoes, and jerseys of the pissing calvin punisher logo aesthetic. none of them can climb, but it isn't important because mountain biking culture keeps the chair lifts running all year round
me and my gfs ancient rigit mtbs mog all the gravel meme bikers around us lel
and the people on """real""" modern mtbs lel
Why do people cheat? Why do people buy 5$ tekken keys and then go into ranked? Why do people make fresh fightcade accounts and fight D-ranks?
Because moids need to feed their ego and they'll jump through hoops to do it without a hint of shame.
god i love how many trannies are into fgs now
there used to be only a few of us, but now its like fighting games are becoming troon culture and vice-versa
You even looked into the fucking event?
picrel straight off their website
It's a take-anyone-interested event that just happens to be a race because "race" sells more tickets than "leisure ride."
There was nothing competitive about this, they just offered a leaderboard for part of the experience.
yeah well if it's not framed as a serious competition HOW is the dailymail supposed to write articles huh?
you just want all those writers to starve without being able to afford chippies?
there is no such thing as 'fun' for top-podium placers in races
all those people are fucking tryhards who, despite the event saying it's 'for fun', will fight tooth and nail as if it is competitive
then will bitch and whine on about how something subtle fucked or ruined the event for them waah waah
those people really put a damper on the 'fun', ruining it for the rest
I'm not nearly good enough but I would if I was. Fact is there are lots of us just chilling doing our thing and you retards take the bait just like normies when eventually some random person wins something or just comes close and decides its the next shoah
pretty sure barely anyone here has ever done a sport to the point they're entering events/races, so they're not to understand
there's a lot of nuance to it all but it's always been about self-competition for me
In an event like that, you don't cross the finish line all as a cohort. They just record your start and finish times and use that as a metric.
She probably didn't even know she came "in first among 40-49 year old women" until they announced, rofl.
How do you know that that person's back you passed a minute ago was the last 40-49 year old woman ahead of you in the race?
You just tilt your head down and sprint when you see the finish line.
I'm not nearly good enough but I would if I was. Fact is there are lots of us just chilling doing our thing and you retards take the bait just like normies when eventually some random person wins something or just comes close and decides its the next shoah
What kind of weakling isn't willing to transition and take "hrt", to get the good good? And as a bonus the hrt protocols can hide your doping.
Why do people cheat? Why do people buy 5$ tekken keys and then go into ranked? Why do people make fresh fightcade accounts and fight D-ranks?
Because moids need to feed their ego and they'll jump through hoops to do it without a hint of shame.
That's a great attitude! Terrible choice of sport but definitely a winners mindset.
>what is their end game?
to have fun participating and competing in sports, retard
it's not reasonable to relegate her to the mens category because dysphoria and disadvantages
okay, so lets make a tranny category, right? transmasc and transfem
nope, they make a 'non biney' category as a peace offering, which amounts to an open category because it groups transmasc/transfem people together, where is the fairness and competition in that?
they don't give a fuck about tranny competitiveness, they just want us out of sports in general
sports is inherently unfair, you don't see articles posted like 'yet another kenyan runner wins london marathon due to unfair biological advantages'
they've been clamping down on more regulations attempting to make it 'fair', yet sports itself hinges on subtle biological differences that make the training shine through
gravel is here to stay unfortunately, after decades of anti-bike propaganda brainwashed NPCs into thinking that "road bikes" are bad, the bike industry needed a way to convince people to still buy drop bar bikes. so they invented a "new" category which is just road bikes marketed towards fat and out of shape bucket o crabs white people who are afraid of being perceived as "trying too hard"
ironically this created fertile soil for people who still want to try harder than the next person, and thus "competitive gravel racing" (yeah I know) became a thing. they're extremely popular with white people trying to be "authentic" by going to mostly white rural places and trying to fit in. the first big one was done by a bunch of racists in kansas who hired a 1/64th native person to say it's ok to use slurs against native people, but once they started getting sponsors they had to eject the management who were mostly too racist even for the self-appointed "cycling community" (aka white cyclists)
yeah mountain bikes are marketed towards obese people who are too inept to ride on roads without dying and too ashamed to wear normal cycling clothes so they invented a whole "dress code" for MTB consisting of baggy below the knee shorts, skater shoes, and jerseys of the pissing calvin punisher logo aesthetic. none of them can climb, but it isn't important because mountain biking culture keeps the chair lifts running all year round
I've been on HRT for 6 years, have absolutely zero muscle on me, and even I wouldn't feel comfortable competing against cis women in a sports competition
It's because it's labelled "womens"
You a woman?
You buy the women's deodorant.
You use the women's bathroom.
You tick off the box that says "woman" on the race registration form.
Simple as.
Read the article
Every other winner said they didn't care, they left because it was gonna rain
they didn't know she was a tranny
There was no boycott and the article quotes some random "women's 40-49" catergory
when it was barely recognized, it was like a participation trophy
>Every other winner said they didn't care, they left because it was gonna rain >they didn't know she was a tranny
They said that because they didn't want you trans people doxxing them and ruining their lives for "transphobia"
Actually I just checked this out on snopes, they didn't join her at the podium because she farted and the gas drove them away.
According to snopes they served broccoli and beans before the race.
Care to comment on this?
>road cycling passoid
Male or female bike shorts?
I've been thinking of getting proper shorts, but I have no clue whether this is a case of "get the 'male' shorts, function over form" or "get the 'female' shorts, form over everything."
i use female bibs because i have wide hips and a typically feminine shape. never tried the male stuff, but i don't think genitals really matter. it doesn't for me at least
You get the shit that fits your body correctly. And no bitching about feminine dicks or whether your pelvis passes. Do you have any idea how many men used Georgina Terry's saddles back in the day?
>win at non-binary race that was made in order to not offend cis women >people accuse you of being an evil tranny that got the position from a mother
If they are going to accuse you of stuff regardless then you may as well compete in the actual women races.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10885307/Trans-women-cyclists-second-non-binary-race-leaving-young-mother-third.html
this pic is often being posted without the context that this was a non-binary race btw
>this pic is often being posted without the context that this was a non-binary race btw
If the article is correct, which should not be taken for granted because daily mail. It absolutely IS a binary race, that is inclusive to non binaries.
There's literally a thunder, male and male adjacent and male performance and a lightning, female, and female adjacent and female performance division.
That is the lightning division with a pair that should be in the thunder division.
This leads me to think that MTFs and FTMS and enbies should all be in the Thunder division.
Are you talking about the OP's race or the race at
>win at non-binary race that was made in order to not offend cis women >people accuse you of being an evil tranny that got the position from a mother
If they are going to accuse you of stuff regardless then you may as well compete in the actual women races.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10885307/Trans-women-cyclists-second-non-binary-race-leaving-young-mother-third.html
this pic is often being posted without the context that this was a non-binary race btw
They do. The best woman in the world has a rating of 2628 >https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=women
She's rank 124 in the open (men and women) category >https://ratings.fide.com/profile/8602980
Likewise, the best girl in the world has a rating of 2464. She's ranked 79 among all people under 18.
Is there any trans woman above them or does estrogen make them retarded?
I did a quick google and these were the biggest names: >https://ratings.fide.com/profile/637823
Rank 8176 >https://ratings.fide.com/profile/2200465
Rank 8317 >https://ratings.fide.com/profile/2013304
Rank 22336
>win at non-binary race that was made in order to not offend cis women
they specifically had a non binary/tranny category, the hon decided he wanted to compete in the woman category instead of competing in the one that was made for him
i dont understand why tranners cant understand that, depending on the sport, 70-90% of the country thinks trans women should be banned from womens sports
even if people agree with other stuff, they will never agree with this
They do. The best woman in the world has a rating of 2628 >https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=women
She's rank 124 in the open (men and women) category >https://ratings.fide.com/profile/8602980
Likewise, the best girl in the world has a rating of 2464. She's ranked 79 among all people under 18.
UK is a special case and main base of Gender Critical (LGB alliance, note that they attempt the latter in many countries, but it has not really catched outside UK) movement which is not organic, but conservative astroturfing by likes of Heritage Foundation who put tons of money into it
as for america, the same think tanks funding Gender Critical are doing practically same operations, but they don't even bother to appear as fake pro-lgb organization because religious right works well enough, rather just go straight for both fags and trannies like you see in Florida
Lmao. You British? Actually travel, this place is insane, England should be nuked.
Morroco is less intimidating than Birmingham. England is violent, transphobic dump. Boris Johnson wore body armour and had a police escort in London, he wore a suit in Kiev
>some trans women wins >always makes the headline news >some trans women loses or places in a mediocre spot >doesn't even exist according to news articles
i sure love selective bias.
I literally don't care if trans women dominate women's sports. Trans women have an inviolable right to be treated as women, cis women have no "right" to win sports. Cis people dominate every other aspect of society, why can't we have one thing to ourselves?
She passes as a butch lesbian
bro thats just a dude straight up
I don't understand sports hons. Nobody considers their wins legitimate and they're horribly damaging the community with their bullshit, what is their end game?
this. you have a fucking male body. no amount of hormones is going to delete what you grew up with lmfao. Why is this even a debate? Even as a mtf myself I can't imagine competing in sports with women. It's just not fair at all.
Uncle Tom
most of us give up things a lot more important than competing in professional sports to transition. It’s sad but I think a line does need to be drawn
>Uncle Tom
are you black? post hands with timestamp
that's uncle TiM thank you. ;^)
Literally none of you have ever played any kind of sports? It’s not something you can just give up because you transitioned, it’s like a personal journey that you pursue and try to master. They just want to compete, not to tear anybody down. The fact that they identify as women and compete with cis women despite their advantages shouldn’t imply they are trying to cheat or be unfair
Q: Is a trans specific category with the MTF and FTMS together a reasonable choice going forward?
>The fact that they identify as women and compete with cis women despite their advantages shouldn’t imply they are trying to cheat or be unfair
Thinking that unfair cheaters are NOT going to exploit the fuck out of T rules is as delusional as a "you pass!" hugbox on r/
Music video related.
Why do people cheat? Why do people buy 5$ tekken keys and then go into ranked? Why do people make fresh fightcade accounts and fight D-ranks?
Because moids need to feed their ego and they'll jump through hoops to do it without a hint of shame.
god i love how many trannies are into fgs now
there used to be only a few of us, but now its like fighting games are becoming troon culture and vice-versa
The existence of these races is due to women cheating lmao.
they are feminists double agents that's my theory
it makes no sense to me or to anyone
it's 100% on purpose, damage is the end goal
I always did sport im not gonna just give it up. It's easy to say to do that when it's not something you enjoy
t. sportshon 😉
cool you can still play sports just don't compete professionally
You even looked into the fucking event?
picrel straight off their website
It's a take-anyone-interested event that just happens to be a race because "race" sells more tickets than "leisure ride."
There was nothing competitive about this, they just offered a leaderboard for part of the experience.
yeah well if it's not framed as a serious competition HOW is the dailymail supposed to write articles huh?
you just want all those writers to starve without being able to afford chippies?
>110% fun
>Sportshon completely ruins even this
>Sportshon even has the gall to whine about nobody else joining her on the podium
Absolutely pathetic
>transwoman participates in mixed gender event that isn't even competitive
>ruined
there is no such thing as 'fun' for top-podium placers in races
all those people are fucking tryhards who, despite the event saying it's 'for fun', will fight tooth and nail as if it is competitive
then will bitch and whine on about how something subtle fucked or ruined the event for them waah waah
those people really put a damper on the 'fun', ruining it for the rest
pretty sure barely anyone here has ever done a sport to the point they're entering events/races, so they're not to understand
there's a lot of nuance to it all but it's always been about self-competition for me
Did dailymail lie about this being a female category?
>take part in a casual race
>about to take first place
>have to hold back lest you become the face of the daily mail for a week
Though they also whinged about that hon coming 6160th out 20k runners in a for fun "race" before too. Only way to win is to not play, or pass.
In an event like that, you don't cross the finish line all as a cohort. They just record your start and finish times and use that as a metric.
She probably didn't even know she came "in first among 40-49 year old women" until they announced, rofl.
How do you know that that person's back you passed a minute ago was the last 40-49 year old woman ahead of you in the race?
You just tilt your head down and sprint when you see the finish line.
I'm not nearly good enough but I would if I was. Fact is there are lots of us just chilling doing our thing and you retards take the bait just like normies when eventually some random person wins something or just comes close and decides its the next shoah
just say your selfish and dont care
my selfish?
Anything to win means ANYTHING.
What kind of weakling isn't willing to transition and take "hrt", to get the good good? And as a bonus the hrt protocols can hide your doping.
That's a great attitude! Terrible choice of sport but definitely a winners mindset.
They're weak men who can only win by competing against girls
Glowies
it's pure narcissism
Attention seeking
>what is their end game?
to have fun participating and competing in sports, retard
it's not reasonable to relegate her to the mens category because dysphoria and disadvantages
okay, so lets make a tranny category, right? transmasc and transfem
nope, they make a 'non biney' category as a peace offering, which amounts to an open category because it groups transmasc/transfem people together, where is the fairness and competition in that?
they don't give a fuck about tranny competitiveness, they just want us out of sports in general
sports is inherently unfair, you don't see articles posted like 'yet another kenyan runner wins london marathon due to unfair biological advantages'
they've been clamping down on more regulations attempting to make it 'fair', yet sports itself hinges on subtle biological differences that make the training shine through
>it's not reasonable to relegate her to the mens category
And that's where you're wrong.
THE MACHO MAN IS A MACHO WOMAN, CYEEAAAHHH
THE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT
WILL
BELONG
TO
THE MACHO MA'AM
>gravel cyclist
are they just making up more sports only to write trans athlete stories about?
gravel is just gay
gravel is here to stay unfortunately, after decades of anti-bike propaganda brainwashed NPCs into thinking that "road bikes" are bad, the bike industry needed a way to convince people to still buy drop bar bikes. so they invented a "new" category which is just road bikes marketed towards fat and out of shape bucket o crabs white people who are afraid of being perceived as "trying too hard"
ironically this created fertile soil for people who still want to try harder than the next person, and thus "competitive gravel racing" (yeah I know) became a thing. they're extremely popular with white people trying to be "authentic" by going to mostly white rural places and trying to fit in. the first big one was done by a bunch of racists in kansas who hired a 1/64th native person to say it's ok to use slurs against native people, but once they started getting sponsors they had to eject the management who were mostly too racist even for the self-appointed "cycling community" (aka white cyclists)
me and my gfs ancient rigit mtbs mog all the gravel meme bikers around us lel
and the people on """real""" modern mtbs lel
yeah mountain bikes are marketed towards obese people who are too inept to ride on roads without dying and too ashamed to wear normal cycling clothes so they invented a whole "dress code" for MTB consisting of baggy below the knee shorts, skater shoes, and jerseys of the pissing calvin punisher logo aesthetic. none of them can climb, but it isn't important because mountain biking culture keeps the chair lifts running all year round
>t.
>not trimming your helmet straps
i hate how right you are
she passes. looks like a dyke to me
>nearly a decade
"two minutes ago"
>more sports hons
why the fuck do they do this shit?
they have to know that nobody actually sees their wins as legitimate, right?
it has to just be some deranged way to self-validate by competing in and "winning" a women's race, right? that's the only thing that makes sense
It really is. It's so bad too because paradoxically all it does is broadcast why they genuinely do not belong in the women's category.
it's so insane to me
I've been on HRT for 6 years, have absolutely zero muscle on me, and even I wouldn't feel comfortable competing against cis women in a sports competition
It's because it's labelled "womens"
You a woman?
You buy the women's deodorant.
You use the women's bathroom.
You tick off the box that says "woman" on the race registration form.
Simple as.
If she won by 17 seconds ahead of 2nd and 33 seconds ahead of 3rd
then 2nd beat 3rd by 16 seconds
idk but it doesn't seem that substantial
Way to out yourself as being totally ignorant of professional gravel cycling, hun.
>she isn't aware of her country's top 5 gravel cyclists and their training regiment
how embarrassing
I dont know sports ok 🙁
gravel is a meme and not a real cycling discipline
self-ID is a mistake
Retard
I'm more of a mulch luger myself
Read the article
Every other winner said they didn't care, they left because it was gonna rain
they didn't know she was a tranny
There was no boycott and the article quotes some random "women's 40-49" catergory
when it was barely recognized, it was like a participation trophy
>Every other winner said they didn't care, they left because it was gonna rain
>they didn't know she was a tranny
They said that because they didn't want you trans people doxxing them and ruining their lives for "transphobia"
Actually I just checked this out on snopes, they didn't join her at the podium because she farted and the gas drove them away.
According to snopes they served broccoli and beans before the race.
Care to comment on this?
>she has to rely on "facts"
I dont read the dailymail to get facts and info innit
>gravel
>40-49 age group
so... boomer participation awards for suburbanites who are too scared to cycle on the road?
t. road cycling passoid
>road cycling passoid
Male or female bike shorts?
I've been thinking of getting proper shorts, but I have no clue whether this is a case of "get the 'male' shorts, function over form" or "get the 'female' shorts, form over everything."
i use female bibs because i have wide hips and a typically feminine shape. never tried the male stuff, but i don't think genitals really matter. it doesn't for me at least
You get the shit that fits your body correctly. And no bitching about feminine dicks or whether your pelvis passes. Do you have any idea how many men used Georgina Terry's saddles back in the day?
Sigh, again?
tranny bros, we just keep WINNING!
>they're losing their shit over a 17 second lead
lmao
>win at non-binary race that was made in order to not offend cis women
>people accuse you of being an evil tranny that got the position from a mother
If they are going to accuse you of stuff regardless then you may as well compete in the actual women races.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10885307/Trans-women-cyclists-second-non-binary-race-leaving-young-mother-third.html
this pic is often being posted without the context that this was a non-binary race btw
>this pic is often being posted without the context that this was a non-binary race btw
If the article is correct, which should not be taken for granted because daily mail. It absolutely IS a binary race, that is inclusive to non binaries.
There's literally a thunder, male and male adjacent and male performance and a lightning, female, and female adjacent and female performance division.
That is the lightning division with a pair that should be in the thunder division.
This leads me to think that MTFs and FTMS and enbies should all be in the Thunder division.
Are you talking about the OP's race or the race at
Is there any trans woman above them or does estrogen make them retarded?
I did a quick google and these were the biggest names:
>https://ratings.fide.com/profile/637823
Rank 8176
>https://ratings.fide.com/profile/2200465
Rank 8317
>https://ratings.fide.com/profile/2013304
Rank 22336
so no, not any that are publicly known
>estrogen makes you more retarded than cis women
It's so over
Chess is actually the ultimate trans women game due to the benifit you get from vibrating butt plugs
You know, I would be COMPLETLEY unsprised if hans neimann trooned out. And Nakamura would be makning videos about it for a decade.
Second one.
Chess doesn't require people to announce their transness. Top known trans is a MTF, just under the womens grandmaster cuttoff.
>win at non-binary race that was made in order to not offend cis women
they specifically had a non binary/tranny category, the hon decided he wanted to compete in the woman category instead of competing in the one that was made for him
I am talking about another race
i dont understand why tranners cant understand that, depending on the sport, 70-90% of the country thinks trans women should be banned from womens sports
even if people agree with other stuff, they will never agree with this
A lot of us do understand that though. It only takes a few people to ruin it for everyone though.
They should have a chess female-only category because men have an unfair advantage.
They do. The best woman in the world has a rating of 2628
>https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=women
She's rank 124 in the open (men and women) category
>https://ratings.fide.com/profile/8602980
Likewise, the best girl in the world has a rating of 2464. She's ranked 79 among all people under 18.
70-90% of the country also thinks hrt and surgeries shouldn't be covered by NHS or private insurances so
UK is a special case and main base of Gender Critical (LGB alliance, note that they attempt the latter in many countries, but it has not really catched outside UK) movement which is not organic, but conservative astroturfing by likes of Heritage Foundation who put tons of money into it
as for america, the same think tanks funding Gender Critical are doing practically same operations, but they don't even bother to appear as fake pro-lgb organization because religious right works well enough, rather just go straight for both fags and trannies like you see in Florida
Either way it's the same globally for the most part, doesn't matter how it came to be
It is not lol, most of EU has none the problems of UK
but yeah they all also have heavy gatekeeping (except spain with self-id+otc hrt)
Lmao. You British? Actually travel, this place is insane, England should be nuked.
Morroco is less intimidating than Birmingham. England is violent, transphobic dump. Boris Johnson wore body armour and had a police escort in London, he wore a suit in Kiev
>Don't want pp's in women's space.
>Don't want to cover srs so we don't have pp's.
Make up your minds!
Since when did the government give a flying fuck what the public want.
Every single thing this Gov't does is unpopular with the vast majority of people
cisoids need to git gud simple as
>some trans women wins
>always makes the headline news
>some trans women loses or places in a mediocre spot
>doesn't even exist according to news articles
i sure love selective bias.
Nah there was a London marathoner that placed 6160 and they lost a gasket about that too. Stolen valor from the 14k reel womyn below.
Why wouldn't the organiser consider the poor 20,124th woman who missed out on their chance to enter!
40% of children in the UK live in poverty, but a transwoman ran in a marathon.
Im glad the media and British public focus on the reak issues
i like how thats just a dude. like just a straight up dude. thats not even like a hon being a pervert thats literally just a guy im crying
clearly the competition didn't pack enough gu
skill issue
I literally don't care if trans women dominate women's sports. Trans women have an inviolable right to be treated as women, cis women have no "right" to win sports. Cis people dominate every other aspect of society, why can't we have one thing to ourselves?