To anyone here who genuinely believes that music is on the decline, why do you think that way?

To anyone here who genuinely believes that music is on the decline, why do you think that way? Do you see any chance of it being as big as it once was?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All I know is 99% of the music I like was made before 2000

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why do you think that way?
    Music and music fandom seems to have less importance to the average person both young and old in an era where streaming, social media, video games, etc. have a much higher place in culture and people's lives. We have way more access to music now but it's become far more of a passive thing.

    Also in general you have less progression / innovation in music than decades. Partly because a lot of the innovation was based on new technology and there really haven't been many advancements past laptop music production software of the early 00s. Also scenes are basically drying up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn’t really say that. I mean look at grunge. That was huge for a little bit and they didn’t really do anything new other than bring in more depressive angst to rock. Same with 80s rock and 90s rap; not much was changed in terms of sound

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        peabrain take

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been on a decline since nsync and the backstreet boys. The record merchants got too greedy and now no one with actual talent can succeed.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t know about music, but I can definitely say live music (especially festivals) are on a massive decline. Just really aren’t as many people looking forward to live music especially with local bands. Covid didn’t do it any good either and you can also partly blame ticket prices for that too (streaming definitely was one of the main factors increasing prices). As far as quality of music, I wouldn’t say much has changed but now we get to hear a lot more shitty music because back then you had to go through a record label to get your music heard and they helped filter out a lot more music. Now anyone can publish music on the internet which leads to the industry being oversaturated with shitty music. To me, I kinda feel like a lot of popular music today is a lot worse than the popular music back then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but now we get to hear a lot more shitty music because back then you had to go through a record label to get your music heard and they helped filter out a lot more music.
      Not having to go through a music label has helped quite a lot for good underground artists, now you can just release shit you made in your free time for free.

      Yeah, it might have ruined popular music, but who cares? It has done much better for music itself, at the end of the day, creative underground artists are more important than popular artists that arent creative

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don’t know about music, but I can definitely say live music (especially festivals) are on a massive decline.
      You're clueless. The touring industry is booming with the death of the covid bullshit, and local clubs and venues are re-opening and hosting live music. It's gonna take years to rebuild after covid, but it's already started.
      What's dying is the festival fad, because it's too expensive for everyone involved.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Biggest cope I’ve heard is that good music is still being produced today, you just have to find it. Most of it is shit and 95% of modern day “artists” shouldn’t be allowed to continue their music careers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. No one ever lists anything in these cope posts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was the same any era, retard. In the 80's there would have been 20 new albums released every week, but 19 of them would be shit, and all that's remembered are the hits.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Music after 2015 is just what happens when you raise a generation that needs instant gratification. They just don’t have the mental capacity to really dive into either learning how to sing, play an instrument, be creative with technology, etc. and the result is that your music will be lower in quality compared to what people before the internet were making. This applies to everything else, not just music

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >To anyone here who genuinely believes that music is on the decline, why do you think that way?
    There is a deliberate effort to infantilize our culture and make everything as mindlessly palpable to all as possible. It's happening unarguably with movies and books, and it's happening least apologetically with music.
    >Do you see any chance of it being as big as it once was?
    20 years down the line or some shit? Who knows. Gen Z won't be behind it happening though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is a deliberate effort to infantilize our culture and make everything as mindlessly palpable to all as possible.
      Why?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't respond to /misc/tardation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because the rap and prison industry had the money to take it over
        the truth is that rock can be marginalized without putting the culture at risk, that being said, it will make a comeback and with or without the support of the youth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't really know exactly, my main guess is that it's just proven formulas and algorithms like all marketing is based on. Also the stiffness of the industry as a whole now, they don't want to take any real risks.

        Don't respond to /misc/tardation.

        I'd ask what in my post was /misc/tardation but your answer would be very obviously retarded (just like yourself) so I'll pass.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western music is on the decline due to being overproduced. It has no soul.
    Contrast the original We Are the World to the Haiti version

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    The original has emotion, color, and life to it. The Haiti version is the, "Everybody is a drone who drives a SUV in black, gray, silver, or white," of music.

    Nothing I listen to was made before August 31st, 2007. I also listen to nothing in English.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >To anyone here who genuinely believes that music is on the decline, why do you think that way? Do you see any chance of it being as big as it once was?
    To anyone here who genuinely believes that music ISN'T on the decline, why do you think that way? That's what I really want to know. How is any of this shit getting better? It's only getting worse.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Popular music went from complex melodies and rhythms to 3 notes and an electronic drum while some homosexual whispers over the song

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >To anyone here who genuinely believes that music is on the decline, why do you think that way?
    Homogeneity
    >Do you see any chance of it being as big as it once was?
    There’s always a chance, but it will take a pretty big shift in consumer values to change course.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    music has always been a relatively disposable medium but as has been mentioned in the thread with the progression of distribution technology it's worthless.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely just think that there was a huge creative golden age in the 1900s and what we are experiencing now is just a return to normalcy. There will be another time like that eventually but probably not in my lifetime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not one thing, it's a bunch of little things, but this unfortunately is probably a good summation. recorded music that you could make money off of was a moment in time and it was awesome but it looks like it's over. kids and teenagers drive culture and while music is still a part of their interests, they care more about video games and social media. their rock stars are influencers and professional gamers. "i want to be a tiktok star" is the new "i want to be a rock star".

      All I know is 99% of the music I like was made before 2000

      this is normal. happens to everyone. i follow modern music and look for stuff and I even like a lot of it, but nothing can replace the shit you listened to when you were a kid/teenager/young adult. i can't really identify with anything after like 2012. the 90s and 2000s and some of the late 80s is my golden era.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when you look at the standout albums of any year from the 60s to the early 2000s, you will see a huge list of albums that all are good.

    when you look at the standout albums of 2022 you get bcnr and black midi, not bad at all but wouldnt even be in the top 100 if they were released 20+ years ago

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >music is dying
    I don't watch television or waste my time watching clickbait.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Year after year music released in the past in the past is getting a bigger slice in sales...

    Its not a simple cope from oldheads, plus, the infrastructure of music biz wont let significant amount of artists from doing what is going on now

    Nothing about the ""decline of western civilizatório"" bullshit, its just cheaper to produce, to invest, to distribute all these music made through some software or shit

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