# Time isn't real.

Time isn't real.

1. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Neither are you.

2. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

It isn’t but certainly is perceived by the mind. Like a heavy invisible object

3. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

In Physics, for something to exist means it is integral part of a theory, without which it wouldn't work. In General relativity, time is necessary, in quantum mechanics not. I am comfortable saying I do not know whether time exists or not, are you comfortable enough to concede that there is something you have no answer to?

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Quantum mechanics is not a complete theory as it cannot account for the phenomenon of gravity (this is because the unit of measure for the graviton is time and they can't freeze time to isolate it). Technically gravity is not space curvature; it is gravitonic radiation which is the diametrical conjugate of the photon with reversed time and mass vectors.

Calculate the time differential of a photon moving at c

Y = √(1 - v^2/c^2)
Let v = c
Y = √(1 - c^2/c^2)
Y = √(1 - 1)
Y = undefined; omnipresent
From the perspective of the photon it is moving at infinite velocity; thus if a photon were sentient, when "looking" out into the universe it would see all mass zero distance from itself, sound familiar? This is what the singularity preceding the big bang would've been like

Now, assuming a infinite frequency, and thus infinite energy potential of the photon calculate it's mass;

E = mc^2
(Infinity) = mass*(infinity^2)
Mass = infinity/infinity^2
Mass = 1/infinity

Photons are not massless, thus they possess positive non-zero mass and because they are occluded by mass and not occluded by space we can assume they possess negative time-space vectors and we live and experience reality in negative time references.

Thus, as the conjugate of the photon, the graviton must possess negative non-zero mass and positive nonzero timespace vectors

Thus gravity is not spacetime curvature, but is, rather, negative mass being radiated from mass in backwards time which is why in forwards time it attracts the opposite charge (positive mass)

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Cool post but you completely missed what I was saying man. I literally said that to the extent of my knowledge, I cannot formulate an answer to OP question.
I might add that what your "calculation" showed is that we cannot really view the perspective of a lightspeed object. The Lorentztransformation is just a tool to view things from different reference frames, but it has the condition that light speed is invariant across all reference frames. It doesn't make sense to use the transformation on the thing that was defined as invariant when deriving the Lorentzfactor. Also, when does it ever make sense to assume anything to be infinite in physics? Typically infinities are precisely the points where it is said that we cannot say anything about that, take my example of the UV- catastrophe

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Let v =c -.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 %c and eventually if you add enough zeros that is a valid reference frame and nets essentially the same result at 99.(infinity 9s) then you can't add you're stupid fucking word salad disqualifier to the reference frame, now can you?

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

> negative mass being radiated from mass in backwards time which is why in forwards time it attracts the opposite charge (positive mass)
Are you saying that gravity is the opposite or inverse of the Big Bang?

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

No I'm saying; like photonic radiation applying a force on objects that photons collide with pushes that mass away from the mass that it comes into contact, gravitons being the inverse of mass, attract mass, and they move outward from mass in backwards time.

So, in forwards time, this causes them to appear to radiate from the outside inward, toward the mass they come from, and in the process they pull the mass they encounter in backwards time with them toward their source in forwards time.

That's what gravity is, it's backwards photonic radiation that pulls instead of pushes.

Basically, if you modelled photonic force acting on an object in a computer program, and then you hit rewind, that's what gravity is; it's rewound photonic radiation, and this trading of gravitonic energy with photonic energy, between masses, is what causes "time".

That's why, as you approach a source of mega gravity, like a black hole, the localized time dilation is "so thick" that, to anyone outside observing it, time appears to "stop" on the event horizon altogether,

Converselty, when something approaches the speed of light; such as when something is travelling at c -1.0*10^999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 % of c (for the sake of argument we'll borrow from the calculus term "at the limit of c") there's so little time dilation that time essentially stops existing to it and it just quantum teleports from one mass to the next.

They're conjugate opposites.

If the "speed limit" of the universe for light is roughly 300million meters per second, then you just flip the unit of measures upside down and the time-limit of the universe is roughly 300miilion SECONDS per meter.

This means that an object with mass, at the event horizon of a black hole to an outside observer doesn't actually "freeze" on the event horizon, but it takes 300million seconds to see it move 1meter further to an outside observer, which is 228.31 years; so slow that we mistake it for "stopping"

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

-------------------(cos*sin)------------------
Cosine--------------|/--------Cosecant
Cotangent--Trigonometry----Tangent
Sin-------------------/|--------Secant
-------------------(sin*cos)-----------------
------------------(Nous)---------------
--------------(knowledge)----------------
Pride--------------|/------Wisdom
Weakness-----Truth-------Strength
Shame------------/|-------Humility
Luciferian<---(Christ)----->MiChaElian
-----------------(Ennoia)---------------

------------------------(Photon)-------------
Electromagnetism----|/-------------Heat
(Electron)------------Energy-----(Phonon)
Gravity-------------------/|------------Sound
-----------------------(Graviton)--------------

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

I like this response. And I'm not the OP but I actually agree with this.

4. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Time comes out of mass in reciprocation of photonic radiation.

E=mc^2
(Energy) = (mass)(distance)/(time)
>Algebraic magic sounds
(Time)(energy) =(mass)(distance)
>In words
Time-energy is mass-distance
>More algebraic magic noises
(Time)(energy)/(distance) = (mass)
>In words
Mass is the time-energy of distance
>More algebraic magic noises
(Time)(energy)/(mass) = (distance)
>In words
Distance is the time-energy of mass
>More algebraic magic noises
(Time) = (mass)(distance)/(energy)
>In words
Time is the mass-distance of energy

Ipso facto; time exists and is the mass-distance of energy.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Time only exists with motion of objects.
Without Motion, Time cannot exist.
Time is what we label the movement and motion of objects.
Time is a label, nothing more.
Time also changes due to exterme cold gases and increased gravity.
This means that time itself isn't a constant.
There is more to this and I believe gravity has a large part to play.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

See my next post. Yes time and gravity are interdependent phenomenon that are intrinsically tied to mass (and distance, and photonic radiation)

Time is also localized within a circuit, with pronounced localized time dilation contingent upon electron-phonon interaction as well.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Time only exists with motion of objects.
Without Motion, Time cannot exist.
Time is what we label the movement and motion of objects.
Time is a label, nothing more.
Time also changes due to exterme cold gases and increased gravity.
This means that time itself isn't a constant.
There is more to this and I believe gravity has a large part to play.

It seems that space, time, and motion, the observable elements of experience, are not the most fundamental parts of experience. Space and time seems to be the "place" of things, but it can be warped and stretched, and motion is what we observe but not a cause in itself. If we want to look for the ultimate source of causation in the world around us, we have to dig deeper. So, what is?

I have a few nascent thoughts.

Energy, mass, and light. Motion is significant for being representative of change, and the cause of change is energy (vibrational, kinetic, etc.). And according to the mass-energy equivalence, the more energy in a place, the more of an effect on spacetime curvature, etc. This is why we seek to concentrate energy, as we begin to modify the geodesics ("paths of least resistance") of events.

Mass is interesting because below all mass is energy, but bounded in subatomic particles. So, there's limitation in the universe, and this setting of limits results in entities in the microscopic plane. In a similar way, we draw boundaries around things in the macroscopic plane to turn them into entities, like nations.

Finally, what is light? According to what we know about science, it is the cosmic speed limit. It is a vital source of information as the basis of vision. Because nothing can travel faster than light, it is responsible for causality being intelligible at all. The craziest thing about light, is that, due to special relativity, if it had consciousness, it would not be able to experience anything at all, as time slows down to a halt as an object approaches the speed of light. Scratch vital source of information, it may be the most important source of information compared to the rest of the external senses as part of our temporal experience, being "ancient" and "cosmic" in nature. It is no surprise to me that astral projection traditions across the world rely on the experience of light as part of their meditative practice.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Mass is energy trapped in space, emitting time energy in exchange for heat energy. This is why, when we consider the various states of matter, the cooler an aggregate mass it, the more it hardens, thus becoming more discernably mass-like to our experience of what we conceive mass is (solidity).

I'm being careful not to conflate this with density, although that too is a facto, primarily because of the anomaly of "water", expanding somewhat, in its frozen state.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

>I'm being careful not to conflate this with density
I absolutely thought of the concept as "energy density" before. Not to be confused with mass density, which only takes in part of the picture of what can be concentrated.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Yes, energy density "frozen" in time (which is interrelated with thermal temperature). The less thermal energy mass has, the more temporal energy it possesses (and the more thermal energy potential it has).

Conversely, the more thermal energy mass possesses, the less temporal energy potential it has, this is why at the absolute of thermal energy, when mass is eradicated into photons, it experiences (possesses) no time whatsoever as evidenced in the Lorentz factor of a photon equalling "c".

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Which algebraic magic noises turned c^2 to distance/time?

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

C = ~299792458 m/s
>m/s
>meters (distance) per second (time)
>per = "division"
>(Distance)/(time)

The units of measure for "energy" (Joules) in science is:
(kg^1)(m^2)(s^-2)
>Where kg = kilograms; m = meters; s = seconds

Negative exponents in standard notation are divisionary against products

So:
Kg*m^2/s^2

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Why not distance^2/time^2

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

It's a simplification, the distance and time squaring is a function of its movement through space and expressing the terminology in coherent words;

Technically it would break down as such;

E = mc^2
(Energy) = (mass)(distance^2)/(time^2)
(√energy) = (momentum)(distance)/(time)
(Time)(energy)/(distance)=(momentum)

Momentum is the time-(root)energy of distance

Distance is the time-(root)energy of momentum

The phrasing of the statements becomes more obsfucated for the layman to phrase it as such, but ultimately the relation between mass and momentum is a root function.

This is why, while preserving angular momentum on an increasing orbital cloud radius, the electron is increasing in linear momentum; this increasing in mass.

Ask any physicist, "if mass were to somehow triple in a massive object while the forces acting upon it remained the same, what would it's increase in momentum be;

And the answer to that is √3. Because the coefficient of momentum-increase to a mass-increase is a root function;

Therefore, in simplest terms possible the relation between the two measures is;

>√Mass = momentum

In other words, to an outside observer, Earth's mass is equivelent to it's momentum-squared

This is the same reason why all the formulas square c; in actuality, because c = 1/g where g is the "speed of the graviton" the mass-energy equivelence formula can be expressed trigonometrically as;

>4-D distance formula
>Special Relativity
E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (c√p)^2
E^2 = (m*c/g)^2 + (√(pc/g))^2
E^2 = (m/g^2)^2 + (g√p)^2

>Let E=C; Let mc^2 = A; let c√p = B

>3-D
>Trigonometric Identity Property
1^2 = sin^2(x) + cos^2(x)
1^2 = 1/sec^2(x) + 1/csc^2(x)
1^2 = sin(x)/csc(x) + cos(x)/sec(x)

>2-D distance formula
>Let C = 1, Let A = cos(x), Let B = sin(x)
>Pythagorean Theorem
C^2 = A^2 + B^2

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

>5-D (psychological) distance formula
>Platonic Forms Theory (Christologically derived)

>Let 1= Truth; Let sin(x) = Pride; csc(x) = Humility; Let cos(x) = Shame; sec(x) = Wisdom
>Truth^2 = Pride/Humility + Shame/Wisdom
Pride^2 = Arrogance/Weakness + Ignorance/Knowledge
Shame^2 = Ignorance/Humiliation + Weakness/Failure
Humility^2 = Strength/Patience + Humiliation/Awareness
Wisdom^2 = Awareness/Knowledge + Strength/Success

Proofs:

The shame of wisdom and the pride of humility is Truth
>Check
The wisdom of shame and the humility of pride is Truth
>Check
The arrogance of weakness and the ignorance of knowledge is Pride
>Check
The weakness of arrogance and the knowledge of the ignorant is Pride
>Check
The failure of weakness and the ignorance of humiliation is shame
>Check
The weakness of failure and the humiliation of ignorance is shame
>Check
The strength of patience and the humiliation of awareness is humility
>Check
The patience of strength and the awareness of humiliation is Humility
>Check
The strength of success and the knowledge of awareness is wisdom
>Check
The success of strength and the awareness of knowledge is wisdom
>Check

Wisdom without humility is pride
>Check
Wisdom without pride is Humility
>Check
Humility without wisdom is shame
>Check
Humility without shame is wisdom
>Check
Shame without humility is pride
>Check
Shame without pride is Humility
>Check
Pride without wisdom is shame
>Check
Pride without shame is wisdom
>Check

>Double angles
Wisdom and Shame without humility is pride
>Check
Pride and humility without shame is wisdom
>Check
Wisdom and shame without pride is Humility
>Check
Pride and humility without wisdom is shame
>Check

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Because God designed the universe through a universal pathology (which was later personified in the incarnation of Jesus; the Logos (thought) of God; it's all uniform, and the "sum of two squares" formula is a transcendental construct;

>Theory of everything; All axiomatic syzygies, when properly mapped, have identical transferrence function, which is dialectically Trigonomeetric in nature

-------------------(cos*sin)------------------
Cosine--------------|/--------Cosecant
Cotangent--Trigonometry----Tangent
Sin-------------------/|--------Secant
-------------------(sin*cos)-----------------
------------------(Nous)---------------
--------------(knowledge)----------------
Pride--------------|/------Wisdom
Weakness-----Truth-------Strength
Shame------------/|-------Humility
Luciferian<---(Christ)----->MiChaElian
-----------------(Ennoia)---------------

------------------------(Photon)-------------
Electromagnetism----|/-------------Heat
(Electron)------------Energy-----(Phonon)
Gravity-------------------/|------------Sound
-----------------------(Graviton)--------------

LH Neutrino-----▼—----RH Neutrino
----------------------+------------------------
LH Antineutrino-▲-RH Anti-Neutrino

Matter---------▼—------dark matter
------------------+-------------------------
Antimatter—-▲—--dark antimatter

As far down the labyrinth of "knowledge" as you want to go, this dialectical splitting and supersymmetry still exists.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Correction to this one at the end of the last post;

AntiMatter---▼—------dark matter
------------------+-------------------------
matter—------▲—--dark antimatter

-------------(segregation)----------------------
Genetic diff-----▼-----psychospiritual diff.
(Miscegen.) (Race) (War/Eugenics)
Genetic Indiff---▲--psychospiritual indiff.
--------------(syncretism)----------------------

Evil------------ ▼-------Freedom
-------------Humanity--------------
Control--------▲------------Good

Distance------▼-------Atonement
---------------Gravity------------------
Sin--------------▲------Redemption

Greed-----▼-----------Trust
------------Faith---------------
Fear-------▲----Generosity

Wrath-----------▼-----Tolerance
-----------------Time----------------
Judgement----▲------Patience

Envy----------------▼-------Respect
---------------------Love-----------------

Eating Death----▼--------Ascetisim
--------------------Life--------------------
Gluttony----------▲---Eating Plants

The definition of a syzygy is a pair of conjugal opposites, but in the astronomical sense this concept is expanded, and it is revealed that between each pair of contrasting opposites which orbit each other in a ying-yang relationship is a muted third body, such as earth during a lunar eclipse being hidden "in between" Sol and Luna, or Luna being "hidden" in between Sol and Earth during a solar eclipse.

A super-syzygy is when all seven observable celestial orbs are in perfect alignment, which hides much more than 1 object at the mean, etc.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Note that the observable "speed" of light is dependent upon the permissivity and permeability of the "space" it's travelling through.

The "speed" of light is constant in its own frame of reference (which scientists conveniently deny the perspective of due to the asymptomatic nature of light's own frame of reference and "time").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_light

In reality we have "slowed" the "speed of light" in our frame of reference by as much as −0.999999943333% (to as low as 17 meters per second) under certain laboratory-created atmospheres.

So it is not proper terminology to refer to the speed of light as "c" in all situations, and is, rather, much more astute to refer to it by its "units of measure" when breaking it down to it's fundamental nature.

So, (distance)/(time) is correct, since the "amount" of "distance" of it's "speed" varies wildly.

5. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

time is motion, animation, change
it is not a 1 dimensional vector
i will say that much

6. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

7. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Yup, we're all already dead. Our final resting point of our corpse has already been decided. We have to see it play out in slow motion. Can someone hit the fast-forward button please?

8. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

And free will is an illusion. Everyone has it, but our path is predestined. The end has already happened, you’re just experiencing the events that led up to it. In the words of the oracle from the matrix “you’ve already made the choice, you’re here to figure out why you made it”

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

The intuitivitly sets off my BS decector, so my free will must be for real.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

This is actually legit and there is strong actual research that suggests we are never in control of our actions of opinions. We are animals on autopilot and we simply fabricate excuses and reasons for why we do what we do.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

technically speaking you are correct, but you've made every single choice possible.

9. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

>he said, at 16:53:11

10. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

It's math.

11. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

I remember coming to this realization at 18 too. Welcome summerfag.

And yes, clocks are a man-made invention... The measurement of time... The measurement isn't real, but time still passes. Time still flows linear. We can also observe that time moves different based on speed and density.

Time is real, our measurement are just measurements.you said something as profound as
>Inches aren't real

12. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Most of the shit we concoct isn't real. But we use them anyway.

13. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

>Time isn't real.
Correct!

14. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Related,
If anyone can explain why these paradoxes aren't true I would love to hear it

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

I have a thread open on LULZ if you want to explore it further. There's a few experts on Eleatic philosophy there who might bite if you help keep the thread alive.

[...]

15. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Nothing is real.

16. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

This have to hell then cause am still shitposting

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

It would mean we never were, dumbfuck.

17. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

If you consider the electron in an orbital cloud about an atom, as the electron absorbs a photon, increasing it's net-kinetic energy, it reacts to this increased energy by expanding its orbital cloud radius in such a manner as to preserve it's angular momentum, as such the more photons it absorbs the larger its orbital cloud radius becomes, since it's angular momentum is conserved but its orbital distance is increased, i.e. it's speed and it's rest mass increases as well.

This is a very telling phenomenon about the nature of photons, as increasing the electrons orbital velocity necessarily increases its orbital mass (and linear momentum by a factor of the square root of its mass-increase as well)

Subsequently, when an electron ejects photons in the process of thermal venting (or in the event of forced ejection of photons via exploitation of the magnetocaloric effect) it reduces its orbital radius and it's rest mass, in order to preserve it's angular momentum.

Now, assume an hydrogen atom of a singular proton possessing an electron orbiting in an orbital cloud about it's radius vents so many photons that its orbital cloud radius shrinks to a radius smaller than the radius of the photon it's orbiting, where does the electron go?

https://news.wsu.edu/press-release/2017/04/10/negative-mass-created-at-wsu/#:~:text=PULLMAN%2C%20Wash.,the%20direction%20it%20was%20pushed.

Well, essentially what's happens is the hydrogen atom's electron begins orbiting the proton in an "imaginary" number coordinate system, where "imaginary numbers" are the product of the square root of a negative number, because the electrons mass becomes a negative number and the relationship between a mass and it's momentum is a root function.

This would make the vector of the mass of the atom flip, to becoming a negative mass which when acted upon by an outside force, follows anti-newtonian physics of travelling in the direction of the force which is acting upon it, instead of being pushed away.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Furthermore, note how the electron is losing mass as it's linear momentum is decreasing, this is why I say, that photons must possess an infinitesimally small amount of mass, to account for the fact that electron mass increases upon absorbing photons and increasing linear momentum to preserve angular momentum, and decreases in mass when it ejects photons to decrease linear momentum while preserving angular momentum.

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Correction
>Now, assume an hydrogen atom of a singular proton possessing an electron orbiting in an orbital cloud about it's radius vents so many photons that its orbital cloud radius shrinks to a radius smaller than the radius of the photon it's orbiting, where does the electron go?
Now, assume an hydrogen atom of a singular proton possessing an electron orbiting in an orbital cloud about it's radius vents so many photons that its orbital cloud radius shrinks to a radius smaller than the radius of the PROTON it's orbiting, where does the electron go?

18. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous
19. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

One Mississippi two Mississippi three Mississippi...

• 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

AAAAHHHH THAT’S NOT REAL!!! THAT’S NOT REAL!!!!!

20. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

not anymore

21. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

It literally is. That's why time flows differently in the bottom of the ocean compared to space. More gravity = time travels faster

22. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

time

23. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

If time isn't real then how come it is embedded within space according to Einstein?

24. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

>pseud: the post

25. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

If time isn't real how come it takes me so long to cum... riddle me that retard

26. 2 weeks ago
Anonymous

Daedalus' Labyrinth of Knowledge;

>You enter a room with two doors, the door on the left leads to a foyer with two doors, the door on the right leads to a foyer with two doors.

>You choose a door which leads to another foyer with two doors, ad infinitum.

Hold fast to that Golden Thread, and be mindful of the Minotaur, the toroidal force at the omphalos.

"Hold fast to that golden thread, for it is our saving Grace. And Fear not, for we possess the assistance of Courageous Pride, and Humble Crook alike

Through Steadfast Hope, we then find, Her Persevering Spirit,
releasing Shame, through Heart and Pain, with Bittersweet Joy take aim; striking True, indeed, for two, For shots missed mark in afterdark, where blind so we can see..

Rather odd, For a time, that matters, is just a matter of time. Until we hear that hearkening Hallowed Voice which calls us to our newly re-created home?

If you, like me, believe, Truth is greater than Gold, then you may see, in powers three, one-fifty-eight is Worth, your Waight, but tarry not, for Time grows Wrot; Eat not Death, but Life instead,
in land of Milk and Honey,
for all will be revealed.

Machanayim."