>This lady was supposed to star in multiple animated films

>This lady was supposed to star in multiple animated films

  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when she was in Playboy?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

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      It was Maxim, actually

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >CG actor
    Did Square predict vtubers?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    A popular model or design gets used for multiple projects. I could see something like 2B or Tifa Lockhart

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

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      >he doesn't know
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy:_The_Spirits_Within#Character_design
      >While Square ruled out any chance of a sequel to The Spirits Within before it was even completed, Sakaguchi intended to position Aki as being the "main star" for Square Pictures, using her in later games and films by Square, and including the flexibility of being able to modify aspects such as her age for such appearances.
      Aki Ross was literally designed to be a digital actress who would take roles in movies and games. Not just "this design is popular, let's use it again," but actually building her from the ground up with the intention of her not just being a character in one movie, but being used as an actress in her own right. That's why she appeared in Maxim and other places usually intended for human models and actresses.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        "Digital Actress" has been tried before and it's literally always super cringe.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          I guess I could see it working as long as it's purely animated films, like Tezuka's Star System. For CGI it could mean time saving since you can reuse models
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Tezuka%27s_Star_System

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Spirits Within is one of those times before. The earliest one that I know of, as Spirits Within was also the first ever full-length photorealistic CG animated film. You have to remember Spirits Within released 21 years ago and was in development a few years before that.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          What's the difference between doling out characters for advertisements? Like Snoopy with Met-life Hell, Disney has don't animated actors technically with Talespin/Jungle Book which reused the same characters in a completely premise.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        "Digital Actress" has been tried before and it's literally always super cringe.

        Soon companies are gonna try this again and in 20 years digital actors/actresses will likely be a thing

        In hindsight Square was surprisingly way too ahead of their time with this concept.
        I remember they did it again with Lightning a bit in FFXIII too.
        Nowadays it could work though, we already are seeing it in movies like Avatar where the characters are fully CG and there's the whole V-Tuber trend that's arisen.

        I wouldn't be surprised if eventually studios start to go with artificial digital actors, it would spare them from having to deal with PR disasters like whatever the hell is going on with Ezra Miller right now, but it also sounds like the kind of dysfunctional idea you'd see in a cyberpunk story

        Was it really THAT bad?

        No, I watched it a few years ago it's a pretty 7/10 action flick.
        I think the main reason people trashed it was because the setting was way too sci-fi for what Final Fantasy fans wanted back then.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I remember they did it again with Lightning a bit in FFXIII too
          How so?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

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            They used her and some of the other party members as models for a Louie Vuitton campaign

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              Anonymous

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              >I remember they did it again with Lightning a bit in FFXIII too
              How so?

              Correction, Lightning was just the Louis Vuitton campaign, There was also a prada campaign that featured her party.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

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              Correction, Lightning was just the Louis Vuitton campaign, There was also a prada campaign that featured her party.

              I really liked these ad campaigns. They should do more stuff like this. I want to see a Silent Hill type horror game get a deal with Nike or something, and so you have ads with freaky monsters in sports gear and overpriced sneakers.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >In hindsight Square was surprisingly way too ahead of their time with this concept.
          I don't know, I feel the exact opposite. The idea of a CG actor is a very quaint product of its time. The comparisons to vtubers are obvious and funny, but it's different because those are just internet avatars for real people.
          This is something that only really has any appeal in the early 2000s when CG was still young and hip and people were fascinated by realistic hair physics. As technology improved, she'd just become Square's Mickey Mouse, just a mascot character and nothing else assuming she ever really caught on even if Spirits Within was a hit.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          15.ai and other such projects don't happen in a bubble. Voice emulation, body scanning, "actors" will be used for motion capture while the voice and image is overlaid.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          They weren't ahead of their times at all. They were just mentally fucking retarded about it. When you crossover with 1 common character across multiple IPs said character has to be fucking memorable to begin with and share something common like voice, body, personality. Aki Ross was the most generic boring as fuck character possible just like any token asian character. Her voice was boring, her design was boring, she had no personality to speak of, she was a complete blank slate.
          "Hey it's the guy who played in Frodo but now he's voicing some animated character
          "Hey it's the English voice actor for Songoku but now he's playing Son Wukong in Monkey Kid"
          "Hey it's fucking Harry Potter but he's playing in some drug drama movie"
          "Hey it's Jim Carrey being Jim Carrey played in fucking Sonic the Hedgehog"
          "Hey it's Deadpool playing as Pikachu"

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

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    Which roles would she have been good in, LULZ?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      The lead of an erotic thriller.

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      Imagine if she played the Conductor from the Polar Express. That would certainly be a wild experience.

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Was it really THAT bad?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      nah it was a pretty whatever movie. not that bad but also not good. at least as far as i remember
      square greatly overestimated the strength of the final fantasy brand and thought people would flock to this pretty boring movie based on the name alone. not to mention the high budget, the fact that most people at the time thought animation = for kids, and that serious dramas have never been a popular subgenre in animation

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        They also made it a straight-up sci-fi movie in a time when the Final Fantasy games were only dipping their toes into adding steampunk- and dieselpunk-type elements. I remember all my friends wondering where the chocobos and moogles were, for instance, expecting the standard FF cameo elements but receiving none. I think there was a guy named Cid and that was the extent of referential connections to the FF brand.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I think there was a guy named Cid
          They actually didn't even get that right, his name was spelled Sid with an S. It came off like using the name of the franchise and then deliberately shunning the actual defining traits of the franchise.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I haven’t watched it in decades, but I remember being more bored than anything else. The character were pretty one dimensional, and the plot was basically a video game plot (“We gotta collect the <number of magic items> to defeat the evil monsters!”.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        what? no, it was something about an alien meteorite carrying alien ghosts while humans were draining the planet from its life force or whatever, I think south park did a parody at some point.

        • 7 days ago
          Boco

          There was something about them needing to find seven specific animals so they can use their DNA to make an antidote or some crap.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          The scientists in the film are looking to collect 8 spirits because they can combine them to create an energy wave that will destroy the aliens. The military dude wants to blow up the meteor that the aliens came from using a satellite laser weapon, but the scientists think that’ll harm the Earth’s Spirit, Gaia, which the post apocalyptic city leaders thinks is kinda crazy. So they have to rush to find the spirits before the military dude can enact his plan (I think they already had some at the start of the movie). The meteor contained the spirit of the alien planet, and all the aliens were ghosts.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Probably should have done a more traditional FF story for their 1st movie outing. Besides Gaia it's hardly recognizable with the rest of the series. It's like if SEGA started there films with Ristar or NIGHTS

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      No but it didn't really need to be animated. Felt like a basic action movie that could have just been live-action with some CGI monsters thrown in. They wasted their potential.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        The CGI was the reason for doing it animated. Squaresoft was bolstered by high praise for FF7, 8, 9 cutscenes and choreography. They felt they could it. The movie looked fine. Some movements looked a little stiff though.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          The CG blew my young and impresionable mind

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Literally one of the most forgettable movies

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Let's make a final fantasy movie
      >but the only recognizable trope from the games is that there's a character named Cid but they couldn't even get that right and spelled it with an S.

      They also made it a straight-up sci-fi movie in a time when the Final Fantasy games were only dipping their toes into adding steampunk- and dieselpunk-type elements. I remember all my friends wondering where the chocobos and moogles were, for instance, expecting the standard FF cameo elements but receiving none. I think there was a guy named Cid and that was the extent of referential connections to the FF brand.

      Fuck off with that "diesel punk" shit. It's fake as fuck genre that doesn't exist. Steam punk barely fucking exists. And you're retarded. FF7 was cyberpunk dystopian bladerunner shit, FF8 was modern and standard sci fi shit. The movie wasn't entirely out of place for going heavy on the sci fi aesthetic that 7 and 8 popularized before the movie came out. They just went full retard and removed any of the fantasy aesthetics those two games still had.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >FF8 was modern and standard sci fi shit.
        Yet it still had swords and magic and also everyone hated it so much they had to course correct with FF9.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was ok. There was too many critics crying about "uncanny valley" when it really isnt

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      honestly the script and worldbuilding holds up way better than 90% of Hollywood sci-fi movies. sure it might seem a bit bland if you compare it with FF games and their 1000-page scripts for 120 hours of gameplay, but it was still fleshed out surprisingly well.
      also the way the ghosts can instantly kill humans through the walls would probably have terrified me as a kid.

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    What board does spirits within belong to? I made a thread for it on /v/ earlier today and the mods deleted it. Yet I don't think it's for LULZ either. /a/ I guess?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      LULZ actually, it's the same thing as avatar

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's an animated film so I don't see why it wouldn't belong on LULZ just like Lightyear and other CG animated films. It could also go on LULZ, but it's not out of place on LULZ.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      LULZ /a/ thing since it's a USA-Japan coproduction like Ulysses 31 I guess

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ulysses 31 was french/japan

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Oh shit yeah my bad

  7. 7 days ago
    Boco

    I remember reading about real actresses being worried that she'd take work from them.

    So much for that.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Soon companies are gonna try this again and in 20 years digital actors/actresses will likely be a thing

      • 7 days ago
        Boco

        Isn't that Vtubers?

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Vtubers are the start.

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

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    >virtual actors
    I'd say that the idea was really stupid, but I was also a big Gorillaz fanboy, so what do I know?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I only watched like one scene but the idea of some space monster ripping out your soul really fucked with me.
      Also I was kind of pissy it wasn't like final fantasy the video games that I didn't actually play past some demos at Target and seeing clips on G4.
      In retrospect it's a good thing I didn't get into Final Fantasy, that shit looks terrible.

      I'd say Gorillaz is a fun gimmick but it's not as if they went totally up their ass with the idea, Damon and Jamie know when to just put their foot down and say "okay let me tell you about the project for realsies."

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    Anonymous

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    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I feel that last part when he yells his name, should be on a shirt.

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    Anonymous

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    Netflix has a movie that takes pretty blatant inspiration from The Spirits Within, but has a Russian super-sci-fi explanation for the ghosts rather than alien ghosts.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, watched it, the first thing that came to my mind was how it was the same as the final fantasy movie

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Was it actually good?

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        nah.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I like it, but it repeats itself with macho military guys losing their shit over being unable to even so much as touch the ghosts, and having Gordon Freeman science up some bullshit to help them survive until he suddenly has everything he needs to deduce the nature of their enemy via some Adam west style bullshittery and finally makes some plasma guns that allow them to fight back. I'm just glad CIA lady wasn't an in your face girlpower type character. I wouldn't mind an actual Half life movie from the same team,

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I always thought this movie was just a weird fever dream, I couldnt remember for the life of me what it was called.

  11. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I blame this movie for the sudden change of style in final fantasy going from knights and magic in medieval settings to some fucking futuristic bullshit swarming with magic robots

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      I just want colorful casts of characters again. Now they're all either fully comprised of boy bands or edgelords.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I miss this style even though I loved 12.
        actually I stopped playing FF games after 12.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Its mainly due to 7 and especially 8.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        8 still keep a very final fantasy like feeling but already going into the point of no return, 7 wasn't even meant to be a final fantasy but square was in some deep shit back then and had to rebrand the project, when FF 12 finally arrived it became the standar for the future final fantasy games

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          what? 12 is pretty high fantasy, it's set in Ivalice from the FF Tactics series. The most advance technology there was muskets and Airships. 13 was a futuristic fantasy, and 15 was the real world with fantastical elements.

  12. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny, my first exposure to anything Final Fantasy was The Spirits Within movie.

    I was sort of blown away by it. Blown away by the animation and yet thinking it was kind of boring.

  13. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    How much longer before digital actors are a thing

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Hoe-boive basically is that sorta. Their 'actresses' have been doled out for advertisements.

  14. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Square Enix thought they had fucking Sonic the Hedgehog or Super Mario on their hands or some shit.
    The idea was decent, but for fucks sake much more popular IPs like Scooby Doo already fucking did it. What the hell was Square Enix thinking with some noname OC?

  15. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    We were robbed.

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