Yes, they have ads in the start menu, sometimes download sponsored games without permission, and love to automatically "backup" all your files to their servers. even after you disable those options, they just turn back on sometimes
t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
congrats on watching some YouTube videos and following the instructions. point is that this shouldn't be necessary and you're a little bitch with corporate loyalty
>congrats on watching some YouTube videos and following the instructions
You have to be a true LULZ tier midwit to have to watch a youtube video to right click >> unpin group or to right click >> disable search highlights or to just not task manager >> startup >> disable one drive or simply just not to log in
as for >t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
Completely correct that you didn't precede it with a >, because that describes linux best >little bitch with corporate loyalty
I pirate windows and no Microshit glowie can stop me. I use it because it can be good with way less tinkering required than Linux and I also don't have to rollback all my OS coreutils and dependencies everytime I have to use some 15 year old software.
>t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
but enough about linux users.
It's not 2010 anymore. You are uneducated, you should close your mouth. My grandma installed and uses Linux (Mint) without any help. I guess she knows more about tech than you.
So what that I'm TEH MMIDWIT who can't into coputers? Microsoft's team who are guilty of the privacy invasion etc deserves death in minecraft. Each and everyone of them in minecraft.
Behead them gruesomely in minecraft.
Cut into their throats, reach in and just rip out their breathing tubes in minecraft.
Yes, in minecraft, you janny homosexuals. kyus. I hope someone makes the mod in minecraft. Lalilulelo.
>forcing me to do extra work now to install it.
No you fucking retard. Edge and bing will still be defaults but you can actually uninstall them without hax now
Because they're microsoft, not some loser selling weed to their friends. The european market is worth more than the data they get by preinstalling bing and edge
Microsoft was shitting their pants when Munich announced theyd stop using Windows, Ballmer interrupted his vacation and offered discount after discount, to no avail.
The city council reversed course for 3 years, starting when Microsoft build their new regional headquarters in Munich.
Theyre back on Linux since 2020 though.
MS knows very well that theyre the ones who would be fucked in case of a ban, that would be a booster unlike any other for network effects
ms has a lot of assets in Europe
if they don't pay the fine the assets would be seized
but just losing such a big market is unthinkable
and this isn't even a first time ms will have a separate slightly different product for europe
are you all underb&, tech illiterate or what
Americans really are delusional, huh. Imagine thinking Microsoft or any amerislop company can say no to a request made by EU (500 million first world consooomers). You will bend over and do whatever the fuck we say and thank us for it like a good little dog, otherwise we'll turn to China who will overtake your third world shithole in a few years without our support lmao.
>last time the EU did this they made windows 10/11 N edition which was exactly the same without some important media backend programs like oculus relied on >the solution was to install it as a separate package because of course there was no real alternative for this software >installer package doesn't actually work
>The panopticon added windows >"this kills being free"
This just makes something worse slightly better. Once you expedience the Linux shell and the utility it gives you going back seems insane. Windows isn't even a complete operating system. >I want to view TCP packets on a port >Linux
Use Tcpdump that is part of the core utils >windows
Install wireshark because we're too lazy to implement this >I want to compile this C code >Linux
Use GCC part or the core utils >windows
Install the visual C compiler because we couldn't be bothered to include a critical component to your computer.
Also the biggest one is Linux just doesn't spy on you.
>most people don't know C
Sure, but C is what allows you to directly interface and like with the OS. if you don't have one then your computer is just static without the internet. A C compiler means you can actually make the computer do what you need it to do.
>but I need C to hack into my kernelerino!
use the fucking APIs to talk to the kernel. Unlike Linux, Windows makes assurances of back-compatibility for the kernel API.
>Install wireshark because we're too lazy to implement this
people use wireshark to analyse pcaps all the time, tcpdump is useless for any indepth analysis on the go
ok
A) you retards complain about bloat, but all of the sudden you complain that it isnt complete because it does not come with something only a fraction of users need
B) a C compiler or a tcpdump is not essential
Linux shell isn't even object orientated
Windows PowerShit blows all Linux shells(except the Linux port of PowerShit) the fuck right out, it's ridiculous how backwards Linux fags are.
Anyone who has done real work with PowerShell knows it blows bash or whatever gnu shell out of the water. Being able to instantiate and pass around actual dot net objects instead of plain old text is extremely powerful.
It's like Internet explorer was in the 90's.
MS said it was embedded and could not be removed the EU forced them to remove it and hells bells windows still worked.
Its funny how they're in the same position as then.
It's like Internet explorer was in the 90's.
MS said it was embedded and could not be removed the EU forced them to remove it and hells bells windows still worked.
Its funny how they're in the same position as then.
they didn't actually remove it, they just removed the IE frontend
This
Edge WebView isn't going away, Microsoft needs to have a WebView that isn't controlled by Google.
and anything edge:// will still open it
I wonder at which point they'll hit true desperation, and what it will look like.
55%, kernel source available?
40%, finally do a clean break with all of the legacy debt?
this is really mostly showing people are going more with mobile devices like tablets and phones over laptops - apple laptops arent selling that much more than before
These numbers are for desktops, if you include phones 42% of all page hits are Android.
i work in IT and i do not see this at all - businesses still buy almost entirely windows machines, since they need active directory to work, and businesses account for the bulk of workstation sales - and does china really use windows? i have no idea what their primary OS is but i fail to believe its a microsoft product
They still use Windows, almost all Chink business use Chinkpads with stock single language or Pro.
T. Poor guy that sadly knows chinese so his company made him deal with Chinese people over teamviewer.
Also i know chinks are the worst but the amount of them that demand support when they cracked the software is insane.
well i know for a fact that apple has only a tiny footprint in china, so that market share chart seems highly suspect - in every corporate environment ive been in, its all windows
>and does china really use windows? i have no idea what their primary OS is but i fail to believe its a microsoft product
Steam hardware survey confirmed that they use W10 mostly.
thats so weird, for being so insular and techy you'd imagine they could make their own OS
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As it turns out, making an OS is relatively easy, making an OS that software developers support so that their software actually works on it is the problem. You can't get people to voluntarily use your OS if critical software doesn't work, and if China tries to force people to use their Chinese OS without it having critical software, they would cripple any Chinese industry that relies on foreign software, which is like all of them.
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with the amount of software engineers they have you''d think they would at least push to start transitioning to use only their own software/os eventually
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even if they did nobody would use it
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meh, some architects I work with use zwcad and it's chink (now?)
so nobody is a bold qualifier
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huge difference between a whole OS and one piece of software
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What do you think steamos is?
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>chinks creating anything >chinks doing anything except following
How do you not know about chinks?
this is really mostly showing people are going more with mobile devices like tablets and phones over laptops - apple laptops arent selling that much more than before
>Be windows user >Daddy Gates finally let us uninstall stuff that never should have been non-uninstallable >Be happy for having a bit of dignity even tho a lot of shit stills happening with israeliteindows >Starts thinking you're in better situation of those who never had to go through this shit just because Daddy Gates had to follow law
A tiny minority of Linux users are humans; Linux is everywhere, in every system, on millions of servers and computers that don't require a pretty "desktop".
There's a script on github that removes Edge without any problems. The only things in entirety of windows that require edge (only the webview portion of it) are the MS Store's XBOX services. Everything else just works.
>getting fucked over and lied to is okay, there are ways to mitigate it
Windows users sound like beaten wives who are still in love with their husbands.
You have to use 3rd party tools (and trust them) to make your OS mostly obey your commands, and you think that's a good thing. you're a homosexual. enjoy your advertisements. Remember to tip Microsoft 20% of your paycheck, to show appreciation
>ship Windows w/o Edge >no ads either >no browsers at all from fresh install >splash page about Microsoft store, where they can place all the ads >put an Edge ad in the store
They can't do away with ads, it just needs a containment program. Maybe this way they can finally get a userbase for the MS store.
How?
>how
>no replies
OP should just kill themselves
Yeah. The dominance of bad faith posts here is overwhelming. But then again, so is the unironic severe autism.
windows has ads?
Yes, they have ads in the start menu, sometimes download sponsored games without permission, and love to automatically "backup" all your files to their servers. even after you disable those options, they just turn back on sometimes
>t. incompetent at tech
t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
congrats on watching some YouTube videos and following the instructions. point is that this shouldn't be necessary and you're a little bitch with corporate loyalty
>congrats on watching some YouTube videos and following the instructions
You have to be a true LULZ tier midwit to have to watch a youtube video to right click >> unpin group or to right click >> disable search highlights or to just not task manager >> startup >> disable one drive or simply just not to log in
as for
>t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
Completely correct that you didn't precede it with a >, because that describes linux best
>little bitch with corporate loyalty
I pirate windows and no Microshit glowie can stop me. I use it because it can be good with way less tinkering required than Linux and I also don't have to rollback all my OS coreutils and dependencies everytime I have to use some 15 year old software.
It's not 2010 anymore. You are uneducated, you should close your mouth. My grandma installed and uses Linux (Mint) without any help. I guess she knows more about tech than you.
>implying that fixes even 1/4 of Microsoft's bullshit
it's been going downhill since XP and you homosexuals are the proof in the pudding.
So what that I'm TEH MMIDWIT who can't into coputers? Microsoft's team who are guilty of the privacy invasion etc deserves death in minecraft. Each and everyone of them in minecraft.
Behead them gruesomely in minecraft.
Cut into their throats, reach in and just rip out their breathing tubes in minecraft.
Yes, in minecraft, you janny homosexuals. kyus. I hope someone makes the mod in minecraft. Lalilulelo.
>t. loves fighting his computer instead of just working with it
but enough about linux users.
yep it has always been malware now it is adware too
I think I will keep edge and bing
>I think I will keep edge and bing
this, lol. fucking EU forcing me to do extra work now to install it.
>forcing me to do extra work now to install it.
No you fucking retard. Edge and bing will still be defaults but you can actually uninstall them without hax now
I think I will keep edging and binging
I heard about this. People binging themselves in the balls to edge longer. Sounds pretty unhealthy.
Me when I smoke weed.
DUDE WEED
DUDE
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>as it complies
Really weirs how everyone just assumes theyll comply
Why wouldn't they
Are europeans really this dense?
Europeans don’t understand nuance at all.
nagger they will comply simply because it's not worth eating a multi billion euro fine just to force people to use edge and bing
A fine which they will comply eith because... ????
Because they're microsoft, not some loser selling weed to their friends. The european market is worth more than the data they get by preinstalling bing and edge
because then theyd be blocked from the EEA, which is why they comply with previous fines and continue to comply with eu regulation
Yes.
t. been here for almost 7 years.
It's a continent of autistic redditors.
>Are europeans really this dense?
Burgers are so retarded. They're beyond saving
If they don't they are not allowed to sell Windows 11 in Europe. Simple as that.
>not allowed to SELL Windows 11 in Europe
i can see them giving it away for free so they can harvest more data
They would not be allowed to have it pre-installed on any laptops or desktops either.
EU don't have the balls to ban Windows in Europe lol almost every European will be unemployed
Microsoft was shitting their pants when Munich announced theyd stop using Windows, Ballmer interrupted his vacation and offered discount after discount, to no avail.
The city council reversed course for 3 years, starting when Microsoft build their new regional headquarters in Munich.
Theyre back on Linux since 2020 though.
MS knows very well that theyre the ones who would be fucked in case of a ban, that would be a booster unlike any other for network effects
they would not be allowed to OFFER it in EU
neither paid nor free/pre-installed
>sells Windows 10 with a free Win 11 upgrade
Nothn prsnnel kdd..
ms has a lot of assets in Europe
if they don't pay the fine the assets would be seized
but just losing such a big market is unthinkable
and this isn't even a first time ms will have a separate slightly different product for europe
are you all underb&, tech illiterate or what
Americans really are delusional, huh. Imagine thinking Microsoft or any amerislop company can say no to a request made by EU (500 million first world consooomers). You will bend over and do whatever the fuck we say and thank us for it like a good little dog, otherwise we'll turn to China who will overtake your third world shithole in a few years without our support lmao.
Several companies have in the past, and several are currently engaged in doing so (saying no)
>EUtnuch can't even imagine a world where they make independent decisions and aren't just playing second fiddle to a greater hegemon
I doubt a true uninstall will be possible. It will probably just be disabled but the bloat will lie underneath.
yeah, it's proprietary software, they can basically do whatever they want and you'll have no idea. which is what they're already doing
>windows is good now, there's an option to not have ads
is that bar really that low?
It remains that low because you need a European IP address and locale to do this, and it can only be done at installation time
But why would you say something false?
Works on my continent
Being able to uninstall crapware doesn't fix the rest of the OS though, like the fucking ass new Explorer
how retarded are you to think having a browser preinstalled was the reason people were using Linux?
>last time the EU did this they made windows 10/11 N edition which was exactly the same without some important media backend programs like oculus relied on
>the solution was to install it as a separate package because of course there was no real alternative for this software
>installer package doesn't actually work
I'll come back when I can uninstall system32
>The panopticon added windows
>"this kills being free"
This just makes something worse slightly better. Once you expedience the Linux shell and the utility it gives you going back seems insane. Windows isn't even a complete operating system.
>I want to view TCP packets on a port
>Linux
Use Tcpdump that is part of the core utils
>windows
Install wireshark because we're too lazy to implement this
>I want to compile this C code
>Linux
Use GCC part or the core utils
>windows
Install the visual C compiler because we couldn't be bothered to include a critical component to your computer.
Also the biggest one is Linux just doesn't spy on you.
>Also the biggest one is Linux just doesn't spy on you.
At the very least a lot of developers are genuine in providing that experience.
A C compiler isn't critical to an OS. Most computer users don't even know C.
>most people don't know C
Sure, but C is what allows you to directly interface and like with the OS. if you don't have one then your computer is just static without the internet. A C compiler means you can actually make the computer do what you need it to do.
>what is .NET
>what is PowerShell
>but I need C to hack into my kernelerino!
use the fucking APIs to talk to the kernel. Unlike Linux, Windows makes assurances of back-compatibility for the kernel API.
>Install wireshark because we're too lazy to implement this
people use wireshark to analyse pcaps all the time, tcpdump is useless for any indepth analysis on the go
ok
A) you retards complain about bloat, but all of the sudden you complain that it isnt complete because it does not come with something only a fraction of users need
B) a C compiler or a tcpdump is not essential
>we're too lazy to implement this
>What is Microsoft sysinternals/TCPview??
Linux shell isn't even object orientated
Windows PowerShit blows all Linux shells(except the Linux port of PowerShit) the fuck right out, it's ridiculous how backwards Linux fags are.
Anyone who has done real work with PowerShell knows it blows bash or whatever gnu shell out of the water. Being able to instantiate and pass around actual dot net objects instead of plain old text is extremely powerful.
They'll just up the telemetry.
No on gets away from daddy microsoft
Wait. Winfags can't uninstall the Edge browser right now? Are you serious?
It's like Internet explorer was in the 90's.
MS said it was embedded and could not be removed the EU forced them to remove it and hells bells windows still worked.
Its funny how they're in the same position as then.
they didn't actually remove it, they just removed the IE frontend
This
Edge WebView isn't going away, Microsoft needs to have a WebView that isn't controlled by Google.
and anything edge:// will still open it
Oh yeah, totally. the ads, and edge were the reasons I use linux when I do.
I wonder at which point they'll hit true desperation, and what it will look like.
55%, kernel source available?
40%, finally do a clean break with all of the legacy debt?
now show a graph with an accurate scale, this is wrong because MAC is 2%
These numbers are for desktops, if you include phones 42% of all page hits are Android.
ChromeOS = Linux = 7.2%
Not GNU/Linux tho
i work in IT and i do not see this at all - businesses still buy almost entirely windows machines, since they need active directory to work, and businesses account for the bulk of workstation sales - and does china really use windows? i have no idea what their primary OS is but i fail to believe its a microsoft product
They still use Windows, almost all Chink business use Chinkpads with stock single language or Pro.
T. Poor guy that sadly knows chinese so his company made him deal with Chinese people over teamviewer.
Also i know chinks are the worst but the amount of them that demand support when they cracked the software is insane.
well i know for a fact that apple has only a tiny footprint in china, so that market share chart seems highly suspect - in every corporate environment ive been in, its all windows
>and does china really use windows? i have no idea what their primary OS is but i fail to believe its a microsoft product
Steam hardware survey confirmed that they use W10 mostly.
thats so weird, for being so insular and techy you'd imagine they could make their own OS
As it turns out, making an OS is relatively easy, making an OS that software developers support so that their software actually works on it is the problem. You can't get people to voluntarily use your OS if critical software doesn't work, and if China tries to force people to use their Chinese OS without it having critical software, they would cripple any Chinese industry that relies on foreign software, which is like all of them.
with the amount of software engineers they have you''d think they would at least push to start transitioning to use only their own software/os eventually
even if they did nobody would use it
meh, some architects I work with use zwcad and it's chink (now?)
so nobody is a bold qualifier
huge difference between a whole OS and one piece of software
What do you think steamos is?
>chinks creating anything
>chinks doing anything except following
How do you not know about chinks?
asians are terrible at software
How much of the unknown are Linux?
this is really mostly showing people are going more with mobile devices like tablets and phones over laptops - apple laptops arent selling that much more than before
I get those features with LTSC anyway, what i want is disabled data collection and forced updates off.
only thing ive found that does this is the atlas patcher
Thanks, but I'm going to stick with Linux for my home computing. I'm glad you made these minor court-ordered concessions, BIll.Good job.
I've never used windows outside of a vm.
t. openbased user
> uninstall edge
> edgeIcon.isHidden = true;
t-thanks
> install Windows
> uninstall Edge
> can't access the internet to download Chrome
what do, bros??
Install gentoo
>Go to cmd
>curl <chrome.exe link> -o chrome.exe
fake and gay
>Be windows user
>Daddy Gates finally let us uninstall stuff that never should have been non-uninstallable
>Be happy for having a bit of dignity even tho a lot of shit stills happening with israeliteindows
>Starts thinking you're in better situation of those who never had to go through this shit just because Daddy Gates had to follow law
Joke's on them because I reverted to Windows 10.
>replies to entire thread
>"im not mad!!!!111!!!1!"
Yeah, bot don't have intellect to discerne between copypasta posts or normal ones
only terrorists and pedophiles uninstall microsoft edge
I wish we had filters for replies so I didn't need to see that bot complaining about some random mod anymore.
That will probably only apply to EU countries right? So in the US you'll still have ads. Lol.
>op being retarded
nothing new here.
A tiny minority of Linux users are humans; Linux is everywhere, in every system, on millions of servers and computers that don't require a pretty "desktop".
Windows is like a fancy video game basically.
windowschads can't stop winning
people dont use linux because windows has edge
people use linux because it gets work done
>not ltsc iot relates news
don't care, didn't ask
destroy the cable that's coming towards your pc/router
linux will power windows within the decade
This is coming to Android too, and Apple ofc, right eurofags? RIGHT? Will we be seeing stock AOSP phones?
Based EU doing what corporate pole smokers in American politics cannot do.
>still requires 8th gen intel or zen+ amd cpu
>still requires tpm 2.0
Would be if they had package management. This is only coverage for the crap.
>windows has ads
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
how are they going to remove edge? i thought Windows was built around it and it needed it for some tasks.
There's a script on github that removes Edge without any problems. The only things in entirety of windows that require edge (only the webview portion of it) are the MS Store's XBOX services. Everything else just works.
i mean LTSC already had this and you could uninstall it with scripts anyways
why would that 'kill linux'
neither are those are reasons that people use linux over windows.
i use arch bt-ack!
But I've been doing that for years.
>what is enterprise based windows
>what is group policy
>literally a tool called shutup10++ disables all of those
linux users are hilarious
>getting fucked over and lied to is okay, there are ways to mitigate it
Windows users sound like beaten wives who are still in love with their husbands.
You have to use 3rd party tools (and trust them) to make your OS mostly obey your commands, and you think that's a good thing. you're a homosexual. enjoy your advertisements. Remember to tip Microsoft 20% of your paycheck, to show appreciation
I'm still not installing Windows 11
>ship Windows w/o Edge
>no ads either
>no browsers at all from fresh install
>splash page about Microsoft store, where they can place all the ads
>put an Edge ad in the store
They can't do away with ads, it just needs a containment program. Maybe this way they can finally get a userbase for the MS store.
and still nobody would use edge lmao
Exactly. It would push users to use the store instead.
nobody would use the store after downloading a browser
How the fuck would you download a browser if the os ships with no browser? They would have to go to the store exactly once to do it.
that's what i just said retard
if i can uninstall edge and some other bloatware i would gladly upgrade to 11
>Hey my desktop of choice doesn't suck as bad. Jealous, Linux users?
Keläk
kek, removing Edge isn't possible,
what a joke article.