It absolutely is you troglodyte. They partied like mfers, but everyone had to work for their spots and everyone always had ambition to strive for more, the top guys like Austin and Hogan especially. Fuck outta here with this defeatist onions mentality.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but everyone had to work for their spots
aka AEW. WWE and Vince don't give a fuck about anyone, he actively buries anyone who gets over on their own against his wishes. He doesn't care what fans want and he doesn't care how hard you work, if you aren't what his schitzed out brain wants that morning, you're doing the job to Doink. Meanwhile the wellness policy means they can't have any kind of fun whatsoever, and WWE booking keeps them on the road the majority of the year, forcing them to live this boring and sterilized lifestyle all year around. You're literally making up lies lmao
KEK, nice headcanon. Wrestling would've never made it out of the south and it would've died if it wasn't for Vinny's sports entertainment.
Also, if the AEW roster is on the roids, then it's really not showing.
Nta but >they're on steroids
Sure as hell doesn't look like it >they're banging sluts
Like 70% of that roster is shoot gay lmao >they're having fun being their own characters
Every single fucking wrestler in AEW just has a gimmick of tough guy who fights and doesn't give up ever. The ones that don't are just the most basic of gimmicks on the fucking planet like MJF being rich cocky guy #63248
You too. You're cultists and bootlickers spewing lies to #standupforwwe
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>actively buries anyone who gets over on their own against his wishes
Incorrect.
Look at Styles for example, Vince was gonna book him as a midcarder but he turned out to be a legitimate draw and got pushed to the moon. >h-he doesn't listen to the fans!
Because the fans are retarded. They listened to the fans when they had Bryan go over Triple H, Batista and Orton all in one night then it tanked the ratings. >forcing them to live this boring and sterilized lifestyle all year around
I don't disagree that the WWE work schedule is ruthless but it's similar to what Richard Jefferson said about the NBA's fucked up schedule, it separates the ones who can truly do it from the ones who can't.
That being said, "boring and sterilized lifestyle" how exactly? Travelling around the country and the world with your friends is anything but boring and sterilized. It may be extremely tiring but it sure as fuck isn't boring and sterilized >cultists and bootlickers
You're a retarded angsty zoomer who thinks rebelling against corporations while you worship another corporation is cool
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So how about you just back off your original premise of modern WWE representing how the industry always was, because not only is half of what you're saying just complete and utter bullshit you don't even believe, you're now just admitting modern WWE isn't anything like how the wrestling industry has always been outside of Vince's sports entertainment PG era isolation. So you admit you were wrong and your argument boils down to "the fans are retarded and daddy cult leader Vinceypie knows what's best for us all!!!!"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I literally said I'm not that anon, I'm not well versed at all in how wrestling was prior to Vince taking over the business so I won't make any claims, but he does have a point in that you most likely wouldn't have been a wrestling fan at all if it wasn't for the "sports entertainers" >cult
I'm not obsessed with the WWE like the actual AEW cultists, you retard. I've watched other promotions over the years such as ECW, WCW and TNA and I liked them too. I just enjoy good pro wrestling shows.
But yes, I think it would be fairly obvious that Vince knows what's good considering the fact that he singlehandedly made pro wrestling very popular, defeated WCW and TNA, and stayed on top of the business for the last 22 years
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but he does have a point in that you most likely wouldn't have been a wrestling fan at all if it wasn't for the "sports entertainers"
No he doesn't, because I watched WCW for years before I ever gave WWF a chance, and WWF was what all wrestling was up until John Cena became the face of the company. Anybody who has come into wrestling as a fan post-PG era doesn't get an opinion on anything, you literally don't know shit. >But yes, I think it would be fairly obvious that Vince knows what's good considering the fact that he singlehandedly made pro wrestling very popular
Stupid fucking mark, Vince didn't make pro wrestling popular, he tried to kill pro wrestling. He has developed his own brand of "sports entertainment" where you get docked pay if you so much as utter the words "wrestling" or "wrestler" on one of his shows. He's obsessed with being a visionary and creating his own things, which is why he has completely neutered pro wrestling (within his own universe) and continues to have these ambitions for creating a whole different type of American gridiron (the XFL). Vince McMahon didn't defeat anybody, unironically Vince Russo defeated WCW by convincing Vince McMahon that nobody likes pro wrestling and they want to watch Jerry Springer and My 1000 pound life instead. And while he wasn't wrong that guttertrash shows like that do draw ratings because America is full of actual retards, the ratings are coming from people who like trash and not from people who like pro wrestling. People who like pro wrestling are watching every other promotion besides WWE.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>because I watched WCW for years before I ever gave WWF a chance,
This doesn't prove WWE didn't get you into wrestling. For one WCW, was a call back to many of the elements that an older version of WWE had. Second, it was a product that was made directly in response to WWE. This is like saying Marvel had nothing to do with you reading comics because you only read DC comics. That's an obtuse way of viewing things, as everything DC did was designed to either capitalize on something Marvel did right, or counter something it did wrong. That is just the nature of competing businesses. They cross pollinate. >Vince didn't make pro wrestling popular
Yea but he did. It isn't your preferred "taste" of wrestling, but it is wrestling. For better or worse it is synomous with western wrestling. Everyone who is western wrestling now, be they fan, promoter or talent, got into wrestling because of WWE. That's just a fact. The whole thing of Vince calling it "sports entertainment" is just marketing speak. That is Vince just differentiating his product so that he can set the terms to what it is compared to. Like saying soft drink instead of soda, or energy drink. It's marketing. Has he highlighted certain aspects and preferred others? yea. So does every fed. ECW did the same thing, by highlighting a certain working and promo style. NJPW the same. ROH etc etc. Vince took it to the branding of the product too. But at its core it's the same shit. It's wrestling. The same story arcs play out. The people involved do contrived action sequences to settle them. It's the same shit. You have just been unironically worked by not liking it and thinking it is literally not wrestling anymore. That is the greatest trick Vince has ever pulled, and shows how much more he understands wrestling. He worked you into thinking obvious wrestling is something else. He's wanted that all along. Congrats you got worked.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
tl:dr: zoomer watches some sports entertainment on the WWE network and read a couple blogs and thinks he knows the business but embarrasses himself by being wrong about everything he says
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
More like you seem unreasonably upset about being worked. You're a fan of the product, and wrestling is one the few hobbies that being more of a fan actively makes you more liable to being worked. And it thrives on it. You gave no counter points, probably because you know what was said is true. If you're made at Vince because of "sports entertainment" you are literally being worked by the gimmick of him convincing people that his brand of wrestling is not in fact wrestling.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>More like you seem unreasonably upset about being worked. >you just got worked into not watching WWE anymore because that's what Vince wanted
ok zoomer
3 weeks ago
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>If you're made
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you're made at Vince
hello SIRS
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
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>If you're made
>More like you seem unreasonably upset about being worked. >you just got worked into not watching WWE anymore because that's what Vince wanted
ok zoomer
Imagine being this mad at wrestling. You should be happy that you're such a fan that you got worked and continue to get worked. This is like those people who soap operas and want to kill the actors who play villains.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Everything that comes out of your mouth is full retard.
3 weeks ago
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>seething that meme language won't win him an argument online AND he can't downvote it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You were already beaten in the argument over an hour ago. Just because you keep autistically going on about it doesn't mean anything.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You were already beaten in the argument over an hour ago.
By what? Your meme language and general lack of counter points? Oh I get it. You pointed out a grammar mistake and used "Sir" so that was a "win". Is this why you don't have any rebuttals? Because you're scared of all the shit you can't spell? >Just because you keep autistically going on
Irony.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
By you outing yourself as a zoomer who didn't watch wresling before 3 years ago and don't know anything you're talking about. I can't stop you from continuing to reply to me making retarded non-points and spewing bullshit, and I'm not going to have my time wasted by some autist who thinks winning an internet argument boils down to who replies last.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>By you outing yourself as a zoomer who didn't watch wresling before 3 years ago
Yea but no. Because you saying something doesn't make it true. If it did you wouldn't be a fag who loses arguments online routinely. You're a mark who literally got called out for seething about Vince McMahon and his product online, and because this isn't your particular species preferred environment of upvoting, no one "backed you up" with any arguments as you are obviously bereft of them. You were wrong and no amount of meme language or samefagging can change that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
ok but again your argument ultimately boiled down to >kek you got le worked by vince mcmahon into not watching wwe anymore just like he wanted, what a genius
I don't care what else you have to say, you're retarded lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ok but again your argument ultimately boiled down to
something you keep avoiding and having no argument for. You tried to say WWE isn't wrestling, which is a mark thing to say, and that WCW got you into WWE as if that put you outside the influence of WWE style wrestling, which is not just a mark idea, but delusional. You have no argument because your own ideas are what you would be arguing against, and you can't do that because it would make you wrong. So now you continue the dance of denial where you keep coping and saying you're not going to remark anymore, but you keep coming back. You lost. Again no amount of samefagging or meme language will change that. Go away for a few hours, like your kind are prone to do, hope your thread is alive and then post.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Didn't read.
3 weeks ago
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>Didn't read.
It's ok anon. We know why. >and I'm not going to have my time wasted
Mhm....
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Talk about being worked by the evil Mr. Mcmahon gimmick. Sports enetrainment is just Vince's way of getting rid of the Tennessee spordatorium stench that makes it seem like a business for inbred retards.
He made wrestling popular. The Rock cutting a single promo and selling merch off of that in the trashy attitude era made more money than Dusty Rhodes did in his entire circuit fucking around in bingo halls with other potbellied slobs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I mostly agree with you but I think the WWE schedule is counter productive financially. You used the NBA as a comparison but every game during the NBA season is televised and produces a profit. WWE hasn't made money off of house shows in a long time and risking injury to the stars of your television shows so you can lose money at a show in Flyoverville is stupid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fair point, but I was using that as an example moreso from just the point of view of the athletes
Why do they still do house shows anyway
>That mentality is what built the industry.
You're fucking retarded. The mentality that built the industry was bumping coke, banging ring rats, and then going out in front of a crowd and putting on a fun show and drawing dimes from it, then hopping in the truck and driving to the next city and doing it all over again. Modern WWE is the polar opposite of the mentalities that built this industry and AEW unironically is more like how traditional wrestling was up until the end of the attitude era because Tony's on coke, half the wrestlers are on coke, they're on steroids, they're banging sluts, they're having fun being their own characters instead of whatever retarded gimmick Vince forces them to be, etc.
Nta but >they're on steroids
Sure as hell doesn't look like it >they're banging sluts
Like 70% of that roster is shoot gay lmao >they're having fun being their own characters
Every single fucking wrestler in AEW just has a gimmick of tough guy who fights and doesn't give up ever. The ones that don't are just the most basic of gimmicks on the fucking planet like MJF being rich cocky guy #63248
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>Like 70% of that roster is shoot gay lmao
thats nxt
guys were even more independent back in the territory days, retard. Vince is the one that changed everything by consolidating the business. You're an idiot.
Yeah, I'm 185 cm. I think Adam Cole is shoot 5'7 which is why I used that number. Why do you concentrate on the height I used? Maybe it's you who's lacking in that department, bud?
Indeed true, you sign your name on the dotted line, it's a job. One that compensates their employee for the work that has been issued to them, if that means getting pinned or stuck in catering. A job well done!
Wwe is a miserable slog and aew is exciting to watch with better psychology and storytelling. Maybe wwe guys should be weekend warriors so they can stop wrestling like complete garbage
That's true. Look at how Adam Cole cannot even be bothered to train anymore now that he's got a money mark boss who lets him have "fun". That's why most of those guys don't make it in WWE.
>YOU'RE NOT A CREATOR OR A PERFORMER >YOU'RE A DRONE >JUST PUT ON YOUR SUIT AND DO YOUR FUCKING JOB
>LEAVE THE CREATIVE STUFF TO THE... F-TIER HOLLYWOOD REJECTS THAT WWE HIRES TO WRITE THINGS, PAL >BECAUSE... WELL JUST SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING ENTITLED MILLENNIAL
Very true. Imagine if some background character wanted to be the main role in a movie. Know your place. 90% of wrestlers would not be missed if they retired, they are filler
Yeah, it's a job first. You're not entitled to enjoying your job, or it being fulfilling, whatever. It's to put food on the table.
For years WWE was understood to be the last stop for guys who want a payday after all the years of toiling and creative expression. The indies were where you go to wrestle, WWE was where you go to set up your retirement fund.
Maybe you'll never matter, maybe you eat shit, but you get compensated handsomely for it. At some point guys or rather marks who forgot the "get in to get out" credo started wanting to have their cake and eat it too and the fans fed into it especially in the "you deserve it" era.
A job won't always be fun but a job where you're acting for a live audience is something where you need at least some passion. It's not like being a grocery store worker where you zone out and stock shelves for a few hours.
This is a fact. And to add to it; maybe for once a wrestler not blame their failings to get over, their severe lack of overestimating their own drawing ability, or allowing their expectations of getting their "dream job" to take their eye off of getting better, on WWE. This mentality that everyone is secretly a superstar and no one can just be a mid carder or worse is what has killed a lot of wrestling. Everyone thinks they are really the next SCSA, or Rock and just need a chance or push to do so. That is not true. Some people are mid card acts or jobbers, and that is fucking fine. Take oyur paycheck. Not everyone in NBA is LeBron, but can still make millions.
What if someone is the next SCSA and WWE just doesn't know it? Vince saw nothing in Austin. It took Bret, JR, and Nash to convince him to even sign him and then Austin had to demand he wanted to try the Stone Cold gimmick after it was obvious the Ringmaster gimmick sucked.
>What if someone is the next SCSA and WWE just doesn't know it?
Here's a part you forgot to add. WCW didn't know either. Becoming that person is a journey. Wrestling isn't like other sports where there are clear prospects that are can't miss, like a LeBron. It takes guys time to learn their trade and find their gimmick and be in the right place at the right time. SC was in WCW and didn't blow up. he was in ECW and didn't blow up. But he got better at each stop, and learned what did and didnt work for him. The push he got was as the Ringmaster, not SCSA. But it all came together and maybe those other guys that helped dont help him in WCW or ECW because he wasnt what he was at the point when they encountered him in WWF. The point is he didnt cry and stop. He kept trying. This whole generation is entitled. Earn something instead of thinking you deserve it because youre black or fr fr really want it seriously.
All jokes aside, if you get a job loving what you do, it eventually come falling down. The environment of work just catches up with you at some point and can ruin a passion you had. Best bet is getting a job you don't really care about and hoping the coworkers aren't shitty
True. This is why real wrestlers should feel great when telling coherent stories, getting their opponent over, getting heat etc. Instead the indy shitters just want to flip around and put on "5-star classics" for no-one else but themselves, no-life retards and one autistic old man.
I think those guys fail to see why those classics are so highly rated too. Wrestlers back then only pulled out the crazy moves as a last ditch desperation attempt, not something they do a billion times per match.
It's true.
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>you'll do nothing but the jobs, and you WON'T be happy
can't believe boomers were into this mindset
not just boomers, look at all the cultists in this thread agreeing with op picrel and calling that mentality based.
That mentality is what built the industry. If it was just 5'7 theater kids playfighting since day 1, you wouldn't be a wrestling fan.
no it isnt retard
back in the day it was a non stop party to the point where they all died 40 years earlier than they should have
It absolutely is you troglodyte. They partied like mfers, but everyone had to work for their spots and everyone always had ambition to strive for more, the top guys like Austin and Hogan especially. Fuck outta here with this defeatist onions mentality.
>but everyone had to work for their spots
aka AEW. WWE and Vince don't give a fuck about anyone, he actively buries anyone who gets over on their own against his wishes. He doesn't care what fans want and he doesn't care how hard you work, if you aren't what his schitzed out brain wants that morning, you're doing the job to Doink. Meanwhile the wellness policy means they can't have any kind of fun whatsoever, and WWE booking keeps them on the road the majority of the year, forcing them to live this boring and sterilized lifestyle all year around. You're literally making up lies lmao
You too. You're cultists and bootlickers spewing lies to #standupforwwe
>actively buries anyone who gets over on their own against his wishes
Incorrect.
Look at Styles for example, Vince was gonna book him as a midcarder but he turned out to be a legitimate draw and got pushed to the moon.
>h-he doesn't listen to the fans!
Because the fans are retarded. They listened to the fans when they had Bryan go over Triple H, Batista and Orton all in one night then it tanked the ratings.
>forcing them to live this boring and sterilized lifestyle all year around
I don't disagree that the WWE work schedule is ruthless but it's similar to what Richard Jefferson said about the NBA's fucked up schedule, it separates the ones who can truly do it from the ones who can't.
That being said, "boring and sterilized lifestyle" how exactly? Travelling around the country and the world with your friends is anything but boring and sterilized. It may be extremely tiring but it sure as fuck isn't boring and sterilized
>cultists and bootlickers
You're a retarded angsty zoomer who thinks rebelling against corporations while you worship another corporation is cool
So how about you just back off your original premise of modern WWE representing how the industry always was, because not only is half of what you're saying just complete and utter bullshit you don't even believe, you're now just admitting modern WWE isn't anything like how the wrestling industry has always been outside of Vince's sports entertainment PG era isolation. So you admit you were wrong and your argument boils down to "the fans are retarded and daddy cult leader Vinceypie knows what's best for us all!!!!"
I literally said I'm not that anon, I'm not well versed at all in how wrestling was prior to Vince taking over the business so I won't make any claims, but he does have a point in that you most likely wouldn't have been a wrestling fan at all if it wasn't for the "sports entertainers"
>cult
I'm not obsessed with the WWE like the actual AEW cultists, you retard. I've watched other promotions over the years such as ECW, WCW and TNA and I liked them too. I just enjoy good pro wrestling shows.
But yes, I think it would be fairly obvious that Vince knows what's good considering the fact that he singlehandedly made pro wrestling very popular, defeated WCW and TNA, and stayed on top of the business for the last 22 years
>but he does have a point in that you most likely wouldn't have been a wrestling fan at all if it wasn't for the "sports entertainers"
No he doesn't, because I watched WCW for years before I ever gave WWF a chance, and WWF was what all wrestling was up until John Cena became the face of the company. Anybody who has come into wrestling as a fan post-PG era doesn't get an opinion on anything, you literally don't know shit.
>But yes, I think it would be fairly obvious that Vince knows what's good considering the fact that he singlehandedly made pro wrestling very popular
Stupid fucking mark, Vince didn't make pro wrestling popular, he tried to kill pro wrestling. He has developed his own brand of "sports entertainment" where you get docked pay if you so much as utter the words "wrestling" or "wrestler" on one of his shows. He's obsessed with being a visionary and creating his own things, which is why he has completely neutered pro wrestling (within his own universe) and continues to have these ambitions for creating a whole different type of American gridiron (the XFL). Vince McMahon didn't defeat anybody, unironically Vince Russo defeated WCW by convincing Vince McMahon that nobody likes pro wrestling and they want to watch Jerry Springer and My 1000 pound life instead. And while he wasn't wrong that guttertrash shows like that do draw ratings because America is full of actual retards, the ratings are coming from people who like trash and not from people who like pro wrestling. People who like pro wrestling are watching every other promotion besides WWE.
>because I watched WCW for years before I ever gave WWF a chance,
This doesn't prove WWE didn't get you into wrestling. For one WCW, was a call back to many of the elements that an older version of WWE had. Second, it was a product that was made directly in response to WWE. This is like saying Marvel had nothing to do with you reading comics because you only read DC comics. That's an obtuse way of viewing things, as everything DC did was designed to either capitalize on something Marvel did right, or counter something it did wrong. That is just the nature of competing businesses. They cross pollinate.
>Vince didn't make pro wrestling popular
Yea but he did. It isn't your preferred "taste" of wrestling, but it is wrestling. For better or worse it is synomous with western wrestling. Everyone who is western wrestling now, be they fan, promoter or talent, got into wrestling because of WWE. That's just a fact. The whole thing of Vince calling it "sports entertainment" is just marketing speak. That is Vince just differentiating his product so that he can set the terms to what it is compared to. Like saying soft drink instead of soda, or energy drink. It's marketing. Has he highlighted certain aspects and preferred others? yea. So does every fed. ECW did the same thing, by highlighting a certain working and promo style. NJPW the same. ROH etc etc. Vince took it to the branding of the product too. But at its core it's the same shit. It's wrestling. The same story arcs play out. The people involved do contrived action sequences to settle them. It's the same shit. You have just been unironically worked by not liking it and thinking it is literally not wrestling anymore. That is the greatest trick Vince has ever pulled, and shows how much more he understands wrestling. He worked you into thinking obvious wrestling is something else. He's wanted that all along. Congrats you got worked.
tl:dr: zoomer watches some sports entertainment on the WWE network and read a couple blogs and thinks he knows the business but embarrasses himself by being wrong about everything he says
More like you seem unreasonably upset about being worked. You're a fan of the product, and wrestling is one the few hobbies that being more of a fan actively makes you more liable to being worked. And it thrives on it. You gave no counter points, probably because you know what was said is true. If you're made at Vince because of "sports entertainment" you are literally being worked by the gimmick of him convincing people that his brand of wrestling is not in fact wrestling.
>More like you seem unreasonably upset about being worked.
>you just got worked into not watching WWE anymore because that's what Vince wanted
ok zoomer
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>If you're made
>If you're made at Vince
hello SIRS
Imagine being this mad at wrestling. You should be happy that you're such a fan that you got worked and continue to get worked. This is like those people who soap operas and want to kill the actors who play villains.
Everything that comes out of your mouth is full retard.
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>seething that meme language won't win him an argument online AND he can't downvote it
You were already beaten in the argument over an hour ago. Just because you keep autistically going on about it doesn't mean anything.
>You were already beaten in the argument over an hour ago.
By what? Your meme language and general lack of counter points? Oh I get it. You pointed out a grammar mistake and used "Sir" so that was a "win". Is this why you don't have any rebuttals? Because you're scared of all the shit you can't spell?
>Just because you keep autistically going on
Irony.
By you outing yourself as a zoomer who didn't watch wresling before 3 years ago and don't know anything you're talking about. I can't stop you from continuing to reply to me making retarded non-points and spewing bullshit, and I'm not going to have my time wasted by some autist who thinks winning an internet argument boils down to who replies last.
>By you outing yourself as a zoomer who didn't watch wresling before 3 years ago
Yea but no. Because you saying something doesn't make it true. If it did you wouldn't be a fag who loses arguments online routinely. You're a mark who literally got called out for seething about Vince McMahon and his product online, and because this isn't your particular species preferred environment of upvoting, no one "backed you up" with any arguments as you are obviously bereft of them. You were wrong and no amount of meme language or samefagging can change that.
ok but again your argument ultimately boiled down to >kek you got le worked by vince mcmahon into not watching wwe anymore just like he wanted, what a genius
I don't care what else you have to say, you're retarded lmao
>ok but again your argument ultimately boiled down to
something you keep avoiding and having no argument for. You tried to say WWE isn't wrestling, which is a mark thing to say, and that WCW got you into WWE as if that put you outside the influence of WWE style wrestling, which is not just a mark idea, but delusional. You have no argument because your own ideas are what you would be arguing against, and you can't do that because it would make you wrong. So now you continue the dance of denial where you keep coping and saying you're not going to remark anymore, but you keep coming back. You lost. Again no amount of samefagging or meme language will change that. Go away for a few hours, like your kind are prone to do, hope your thread is alive and then post.
Didn't read.
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>Didn't read.
It's ok anon. We know why.
>and I'm not going to have my time wasted
Mhm....
Talk about being worked by the evil Mr. Mcmahon gimmick. Sports enetrainment is just Vince's way of getting rid of the Tennessee spordatorium stench that makes it seem like a business for inbred retards.
He made wrestling popular. The Rock cutting a single promo and selling merch off of that in the trashy attitude era made more money than Dusty Rhodes did in his entire circuit fucking around in bingo halls with other potbellied slobs.
I mostly agree with you but I think the WWE schedule is counter productive financially. You used the NBA as a comparison but every game during the NBA season is televised and produces a profit. WWE hasn't made money off of house shows in a long time and risking injury to the stars of your television shows so you can lose money at a show in Flyoverville is stupid.
Fair point, but I was using that as an example moreso from just the point of view of the athletes
Why do they still do house shows anyway
lmao you dumb homosexual. They were "parting" because they had 300+ days a year on the road. Not once a week. Retarded, jobless tranny n-word.
fuckin gotten to
gonna cry bitch?
>say something retarded
>i was just pretending to be a retard, ya seethe?
n-word, just end your life.
>That mentality is what built the industry.
You're fucking retarded. The mentality that built the industry was bumping coke, banging ring rats, and then going out in front of a crowd and putting on a fun show and drawing dimes from it, then hopping in the truck and driving to the next city and doing it all over again. Modern WWE is the polar opposite of the mentalities that built this industry and AEW unironically is more like how traditional wrestling was up until the end of the attitude era because Tony's on coke, half the wrestlers are on coke, they're on steroids, they're banging sluts, they're having fun being their own characters instead of whatever retarded gimmick Vince forces them to be, etc.
KEK, nice headcanon. Wrestling would've never made it out of the south and it would've died if it wasn't for Vinny's sports entertainment.
Also, if the AEW roster is on the roids, then it's really not showing.
Nta but
>they're on steroids
Sure as hell doesn't look like it
>they're banging sluts
Like 70% of that roster is shoot gay lmao
>they're having fun being their own characters
Every single fucking wrestler in AEW just has a gimmick of tough guy who fights and doesn't give up ever. The ones that don't are just the most basic of gimmicks on the fucking planet like MJF being rich cocky guy #63248
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>Like 70% of that roster is shoot gay lmao
thats nxt
guys were even more independent back in the territory days, retard. Vince is the one that changed everything by consolidating the business. You're an idiot.
that's an awfully specific number, anon. want to tell us something?
Yeah, I'm 185 cm. I think Adam Cole is shoot 5'7 which is why I used that number. Why do you concentrate on the height I used? Maybe it's you who's lacking in that department, bud?
True. WWE is an MNC. AEW is just a rinky dink startup
Huh what do you mean exactly?
WWE is global. AEW is smalltime.
based
who the FUCK is british bong style?
Indeed true, you sign your name on the dotted line, it's a job. One that compensates their employee for the work that has been issued to them, if that means getting pinned or stuck in catering. A job well done!
He’s right
Wwe is a miserable slog and aew is exciting to watch with better psychology and storytelling. Maybe wwe guys should be weekend warriors so they can stop wrestling like complete garbage
>AEW
>psychology and storytelling
nah gayew sucks
That's true. Look at how Adam Cole cannot even be bothered to train anymore now that he's got a money mark boss who lets him have "fun". That's why most of those guys don't make it in WWE.
Ok but why wouldn’t you take a job that pays you well and is a “hobby”. Sounds like a no-brainer ro me.
Because it doesn't pay as well
Because it doesn't give you nearly as much exposure
Because the work environment isn't as safe
I’m surprised he’s British. Taking pride in being cucked by your boss is pretty much American as apple pie.
>you should treat being a pro wrestler like being an accountant
no wonder wwe is soulless
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>YOU'RE NOT A CREATOR OR A PERFORMER
>YOU'RE A DRONE
>JUST PUT ON YOUR SUIT AND DO YOUR FUCKING JOB
>LEAVE THE CREATIVE STUFF TO THE... F-TIER HOLLYWOOD REJECTS THAT WWE HIRES TO WRITE THINGS, PAL
>BECAUSE... WELL JUST SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING ENTITLED MILLENNIAL
Very true. Imagine if some background character wanted to be the main role in a movie. Know your place. 90% of wrestlers would not be missed if they retired, they are filler
hes right, its a job, grow up, Id rather sit in catering and clear mid 6 figures than do garbage matches in gcw for "muh art".
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I'm sure it's fun sometimes and not fun other times.
True but it's because there not wrestlers there sports entertainers
good morning sir!
Yeah, it's a job first. You're not entitled to enjoying your job, or it being fulfilling, whatever. It's to put food on the table.
For years WWE was understood to be the last stop for guys who want a payday after all the years of toiling and creative expression. The indies were where you go to wrestle, WWE was where you go to set up your retirement fund.
Maybe you'll never matter, maybe you eat shit, but you get compensated handsomely for it. At some point guys or rather marks who forgot the "get in to get out" credo started wanting to have their cake and eat it too and the fans fed into it especially in the "you deserve it" era.
It’s a job first yes but still a cringe take
A job won't always be fun but a job where you're acting for a live audience is something where you need at least some passion. It's not like being a grocery store worker where you zone out and stock shelves for a few hours.
This is a fact. And to add to it; maybe for once a wrestler not blame their failings to get over, their severe lack of overestimating their own drawing ability, or allowing their expectations of getting their "dream job" to take their eye off of getting better, on WWE. This mentality that everyone is secretly a superstar and no one can just be a mid carder or worse is what has killed a lot of wrestling. Everyone thinks they are really the next SCSA, or Rock and just need a chance or push to do so. That is not true. Some people are mid card acts or jobbers, and that is fucking fine. Take oyur paycheck. Not everyone in NBA is LeBron, but can still make millions.
What if someone is the next SCSA and WWE just doesn't know it? Vince saw nothing in Austin. It took Bret, JR, and Nash to convince him to even sign him and then Austin had to demand he wanted to try the Stone Cold gimmick after it was obvious the Ringmaster gimmick sucked.
so what? It still happened. Cream rises.
>What if someone is the next SCSA and WWE just doesn't know it?
Here's a part you forgot to add. WCW didn't know either. Becoming that person is a journey. Wrestling isn't like other sports where there are clear prospects that are can't miss, like a LeBron. It takes guys time to learn their trade and find their gimmick and be in the right place at the right time. SC was in WCW and didn't blow up. he was in ECW and didn't blow up. But he got better at each stop, and learned what did and didnt work for him. The push he got was as the Ringmaster, not SCSA. But it all came together and maybe those other guys that helped dont help him in WCW or ECW because he wasnt what he was at the point when they encountered him in WWF. The point is he didnt cry and stop. He kept trying. This whole generation is entitled. Earn something instead of thinking you deserve it because youre black or fr fr really want it seriously.
oh ok guess I go work for a different company where I can have fun too. Have a good day BritishBongStyl
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All jokes aside, if you get a job loving what you do, it eventually come falling down. The environment of work just catches up with you at some point and can ruin a passion you had. Best bet is getting a job you don't really care about and hoping the coworkers aren't shitty
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bro's literally 24x more popular on LULZ than on twitter
It's true, you tranny retard.
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>Marks telling wrestlers how to work and what to feel.
More evidence wrestlers are soft now.
If you’re not enjoying your own match and having fun, why the fuck would I enjoy watching it?
True. This is why real wrestlers should feel great when telling coherent stories, getting their opponent over, getting heat etc. Instead the indy shitters just want to flip around and put on "5-star classics" for no-one else but themselves, no-life retards and one autistic old man.
I think those guys fail to see why those classics are so highly rated too. Wrestlers back then only pulled out the crazy moves as a last ditch desperation attempt, not something they do a billion times per match.
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I’m sure you meant something with your words, but you’ve arranged them in such a way that I would never know that.
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i mean if im making millions i care more about that then having fun
He's not wrong about that last statement. So many wrestlers are just not cut out for wrestling. They can't act work a damn. Glorified stunt men.
truth
They believe it because it is true.
There is a huge difference between being an indie wrestler and a WWE road wrestler.
AEW is about as tough schedule as WWE these days. Impact would have been the better comparison.