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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Could we make a new rule?
    I want to make a new rule:
    If you are going to post a pic of a book, post a screencap of pdf file.
    That's my new rule

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could we make a new rule?
      I want to make a new rule:
      If you are going to post a pic of a book, post a screencap of pdf file.
      That's my new rule

      Is this a bot? I just wanted to share this brilliant passage

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could we make a new rule?
      I want to make a new rule:
      If you are going to post a pic of a book, post a screencap of pdf file.
      That's my new rule

      go back

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SIX SEX
    SEX TOCKING CLOCKS
    SEX wienerING TLOCKS
    SEX wienerING LOCKS
    LOCK wiener SEX

    >tired white American middle class self-confessions
    I prefer the American books where the rich white c**t writes about hyper rich white c**ts pretending to be merely rich white c**ts to murder people to Phil Collins. That's authentically repressed gay.

    This is inauthentically repressed straight.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Could we make a new rule?
    I want to make a new rule:
    If you are going to post a pic of a book, post a screencap of pdf file.
    That's my new rule

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could we make a new rule?
      I want to make a new rule:
      If you are going to post a pic of a book, post a screencap of pdf file.
      That's my new rule

      The negligible effort of reading a photo of a slightly warped page is nothing compared with the agonies of reading the cutesy-smug style you wrote this in.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        An actually useful rule would be to always include the book name if you post a screenshot or excerpt.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        tf is cutesy-smug

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I still don't get it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They are being really smug and cutesy, trying to brush off their aggression with these characteristics. Passive aggression. You may have heard of this term before.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        An actually useful rule would be to always include the book name if you post a screenshot or excerpt.

        tf is cutesy-smug

        Guys can't you just discuss the text? The prose and the wit are fantastic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          SIX SEX
          SEX TOCKING CLOCKS
          SEX wienerING TLOCKS
          SEX wienerING LOCKS
          LOCK wiener SEX

          >tired white American middle class self-confessions
          I prefer the American books where the rich white c**t writes about hyper rich white c**ts pretending to be merely rich white c**ts to murder people to Phil Collins. That's authentically repressed gay.

          This is inauthentically repressed straight.

          It is second year prose that an editor ought to reject. Sesame Street "my first child" alcoholism isn't a major contribution to the world, particularly when it is posed in the context of boring "but we're not working class we went to college" east cost fricks.

          Go read Zola for penance. All of Rougon-Macquart. Determine the point where Zola moves from bio-determinism to historical materialism. Determine when Etienne Lantier is invented.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's definitely not 'second year prose', as this guy

          [...]

          It is second year prose that an editor ought to reject. Sesame Street "my first child" alcoholism isn't a major contribution to the world, particularly when it is posed in the context of boring "but we're not working class we went to college" east cost fricks.

          Go read Zola for penance. All of Rougon-Macquart. Determine the point where Zola moves from bio-determinism to historical materialism. Determine when Etienne Lantier is invented.

          thinks. But I do find it kind of grating. There's a sort of arch knowing posture to it. Like it's carefully calibrated to induce a smirk of recognition at least every couple of sentences. 'Ah the absurd, messy, wonderful banality of our daily lives,' is what I imagine the intended reader is intended to think. 'Can you blame us -- we knowing few -- for needing a drink every so often?' But there are writers who write in this style whom I like a lot -- like Lorrie Moore -- and I really can't tell what the difference is, and how the line gets drawn.

          [...]

          It is second year prose that an editor ought to reject. Sesame Street "my first child" alcoholism isn't a major contribution to the world, particularly when it is posed in the context of boring "but we're not working class we went to college" east cost fricks.

          Go read Zola for penance. All of Rougon-Macquart. Determine the point where Zola moves from bio-determinism to historical materialism. Determine when Etienne Lantier is invented.

          >Go read Zola for penance. All of Rougon-Macquart. Determine the point where Zola moves from bio-determinism to historical materialism. Determine when Etienne Lantier is invented.
          Come on dude. This isn't relevant at all. Imagine if everyone capped their posts with random two-line paraphrases of the last thing they read, to prove they were smart.

          They are being really smug and cutesy, trying to brush off their aggression with these characteristics. Passive aggression. You may have heard of this term before.

          Passive aggressive doesn't totally capture it. I'm thinking West Wing dialogue, Roman Roy in Succession, things of that nature.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah except that Zola is all about the documentation of social reality as every day life in failure. And lacks the arch, self-knowing, smug, arsewipe voice that makes me want to get them a referral to a reconstructive dentist with a brick. Zola is, however, a small room bourgeois frick with a substance abuse problem who tried too hard to be "intellectual" in his era despite lacking the skills or capacities to make a genuine major contribution.

            Zola is, precisely, these middle class fricks done correctly.

            And if you think this is post second year then I pity your community of English.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            alright alright I'll read him, even though I still resent my french teachers

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You'll either want Nana to see Zola at his best, or Ladies Paradise for the cloying small room of the pebreasts bourgeois non-trade family.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            what if I want to read the entire rougon-macquart cycle? do I go by year of publication or by the recommended reading order according to wikipedia?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly they're newspaper novels. His skill and capacity changes novel to novel. I'd recommend the big ones: Les Halles, Drunk Shop, Germinal, Nana, Ladies', The Land, Debacle. The other ones: doing the big ones first helps with the out of order reading. Honestly: if I were fresh: Drunk shop, Nana, Germinal, The Beast in Man, The Land, The Debacle. The destructive impulse is quite good. The Land has a… well… you'll see. Just because it seems slow like nothing is happening…

            Release order or Chronological should also work, but each stands alone as a newspaper serial novel, so you don't have to do a strict order.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Also this is a bit like Committing to George Orwell. People will admire you for it, and you'll be a better reader for having read a mid-range author fully. You'll appreciate the greats more from having read a mid-range literary author in full. But unless they've done similarly they'll never understand. A lot of people don't bother to figure out why mid-range literary authors are mid range. It is worth the figuring out.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What do you mean mid range

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            He is the sort that has to rate and compare everything, just ignore him.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Read "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" and "Clergyman's Daughter" back to back and get back to me on Orwell's mastery over human psychosexual terrain and emotionality.

            What do you mean mid range

            Zola isn't the best. He's Thackery, not Dickens. He's Orwell not Koestler. He's Marlowe not Shakespeare. He's the Bronte's, not Jane.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >completely missed my point but still proved it nicely
            Orwell never managed what Williams did in that little excerpt, I don't think he even tried but they are very different writers and comparing one through the other is asinine.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I've met plenty of self-washed out lower middle class white women mate. They're not nearly as romantically empty as the excerpt makes out. They're imagining they're Sharylene but they're still Karen. Only with a cæsarian scar instead of the less expensive (and lower birthweight skull diametre) episiotomy scar.

            White wine ain't speed, honey.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You completely missed the point of that excerpt. Are you an incel?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No honey, you missed it. Its autoromanticised slumming with a direct appeal to a peer group for verification of autoromanticised slumming.

            It is Down and Out in Sesame Street and Mister Rogers.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So that is a big yes on the incel question.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Tell me after you finish your apple juice.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Lol I see you slip Koestler in there. Nobody's gonna know him in a century shillhead.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody's gonna know him in a century shillhead.
            Tell me more about Shakespeare before the Romantic critique revival.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Show me a paragraph that makes you think people will pick him out of the dirt decades from now

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            We're not going to get someone writing the Lear of Bukharin, so it'll be "Koba, why must I die," stuff that they'll want answered because of the aberrance of 1933.

            >“It was quiet in the cell. Rubashov heard only the creaking of his steps on the tiles. Six and a half steps to the door, whence they must come to fetch him, six and a half steps to the window, behind which night was falling. Soon it would be over. But when he asked himself, For what actually are you dying? he found no answer.

            >It was a mistake in the system; perhaps it lay in the precept which until now he had held to be uncontestable, in whose name he had sacrificed others and was himself being sacrificed: in the precept, that the end justifies the means. It was this sentence which had killed the great fraternity of the Revolution and made them run amuck. What had he once written in his diary? "We have thrown overboard all conventions, our sole guiding principle is that of consequent logic; we are sailing without ethical ballast.”

            Its unredactable because it isn't interpersonal like tragedy, and its specifically located. Mummy can tell you why men must die, only Koestler can tell you why (300 years from now) Bukharin had to.

            Orwell got his asexual fetish mixed up in the problem.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So break them down, analyze these paragraphs and tell us why you think they are so great.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Asexual?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Have you actually sat down and tried to jerk off to a sex scene written by George Orwell?

            Do it now. And not just 1984. 1984. Clergyman's rape. Burmese Days.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it's pretty good but feels a bit ramble-y towards the end. personally I would have gone on with the number lessons but whatever

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry I’d read it anon, but I’m afraid it might be a Passenger spoiler.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        tf is cutesy-smug

        I still don't get it

        They are being really smug and cutesy, trying to brush off their aggression with these characteristics. Passive aggression. You may have heard of this term before.

        It's definitely not 'second year prose', as this guy [...] thinks. But I do find it kind of grating. There's a sort of arch knowing posture to it. Like it's carefully calibrated to induce a smirk of recognition at least every couple of sentences. 'Ah the absurd, messy, wonderful banality of our daily lives,' is what I imagine the intended reader is intended to think. 'Can you blame us -- we knowing few -- for needing a drink every so often?' But there are writers who write in this style whom I like a lot -- like Lorrie Moore -- and I really can't tell what the difference is, and how the line gets drawn.

        [...]
        >Go read Zola for penance. All of Rougon-Macquart. Determine the point where Zola moves from bio-determinism to historical materialism. Determine when Etienne Lantier is invented.
        Come on dude. This isn't relevant at all. Imagine if everyone capped their posts with random two-line paraphrases of the last thing they read, to prove they were smart.

        [...]
        Passive aggressive doesn't totally capture it. I'm thinking West Wing dialogue, Roman Roy in Succession, things of that nature.

        Just say "reddit" like the rest of this website. Christ, IQfy has such a superiority complex.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't go as far to say it is perfect but she is a great writer. One of these days I will dig into her novels, only read short stories and essays by her so far.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Who is she?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Joy Williams, the pic is from Taking Care

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Hm... I like Joy Williams... I've read Taking Care, and enjoyed it, or so I remember... and yet I didn't recognise this and posted a post criticising it -- what does this all mean?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Probably that you made a snap judgement without consider context. If you take the time to consider what she is working towards with that bit then it is quite effective and well done. She manages to convey a huge amount of information about what her sons and the mothers life in very few words, the parallel between the son learning and her note/alcoholism showing how she has given up literally hurt me. OP did well at finding an excerpt to post.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Great post I agree

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >she
      >her
      >her
      I don't know who you're talking about but I already know it's a troony by how much you refer to him as a woman

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Transvestites don't write novels about being a failed alcoholic college _mother_ six years into raising a c**t shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        rent free

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I was just avoiding the use of her name since it would trigger the morons.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    datamining thread do not reply

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What? bot post...

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I literally made 3 attempts to read this shit and could barely make it through. Modern writing is a gigantic fricking mistake and so is making normalgays literate/educating them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't read
      >it must be the book's fault

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oh I see now, reading the posts on this thread, that a women wrote what OP posted. Makes a lot more sense since women can't write for shit other than putting me to sleep.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        trying too hard bro

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh I see now, reading the posts on this thread, that a women wrote what OP posted. Makes a lot more sense since women can't write for shit other than putting me to sleep.
        Why would a man feel guilt for getting drunk while abusing Scotch by admixture on his son's birthday and feel guilt for forgetting the son's previous birthday?

        Why would a man make his husband the peer of his child?

        Why would a man feel guilt?

        Of course the narrative voice is a woman.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Feels like a style that Raymond Carver perfected a long time ago and now everyone is just raping his corpse.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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