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This archetype is uncomfy. Are we really that drained of hope, zoomerbros?

This archetype is uncomfy. Are we really that drained of hope, zoomerbros?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomer
    Watchmen did this shit decades ago

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      Watchmen did it well back in the mid 80s. Comics have been poorly ever since. Moore didn't want grim n gritty superheroes, he wanted more mature story telling. Instead we got cheap superficial knockoffs full of superfluous sex and violence.
      Ever since Snyder did the shitty movie version, we've got capeshit in tv and film doing the same here.
      All these postmodern deconstructions can do is tear things down. They revel in perversity and villainy. They shit on any concept of heroism.
      Tearing down superheroes was supposed to be the exception, not the norm. When everything is tearing stuff down, it defeats the purpose of deconstructionism. The only way to deconstruct this modern trend is to reconstruct superheroes, but no one wants to buck the trend.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ever since Snyder did the shitty movie version, we've got capeshit in tv and film doing the same here.
        Snyder literally did a 1:1 adaption, that's his strong suit btw

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Comedian goes out punching holes through his own walls but getting beat because the other guy is just more epic instead of getting completely clowned on because he's a washed up drunk
          >Manhattan is pushed away instead of growing so detached that he just genuinely stops giving a shit about humanity
          >The only splatterfest in the book (the gang walking through New York post-squid) is turned into a nothing white flash, and all of the action scenes are turned into splatterfests
          >Giving the Watchmen slightly superhuman action hero strength instead of emphasizing the awkwardness
          The story is mostly intact, but the execution completely fails to emphasize the strengths of the story in the same way the comics did

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The only way to deconstruct this modern trend is to reconstruct superheroes, but no one wants to buck the trend.
        so close, but wrong. the way to overcoming deconstructionist post-modernity is to stop constructing things altogether, but the masses are too indoctrinated by fear to let go of the fairy tales— super or otherwise

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't lump Omni-man with that gaylord

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Omnifag is literally worse than The Boys. At least the Boys has plotline other than exposed children's intestines.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Read the comic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get what was the point of showing Omniman killing the guardians. Why couldn't it have been a mystery?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's called dramatic irony. We, the audience, are aware of something that every character onscreen is trying to figure out for the entire season.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        filtered

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't watch garden gnome trash

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a subversion of western values, radical marxists control the government and media

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This archetype would be comfy should they not be the antagonist

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >both white
    hmmmm

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      omniman isnt white

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      snowflake

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gonna cry?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wow just like superman

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First off you're retarded, so you should probably run blindfolded across a highway, or let yourself see to make it all the better. Secondly, the one on the left is a mockery of an albeit already terrible person of a character that was glown-worded into killing the same people who glown-worded him. Lastly, Omniman did nothing wrong. He isn't human, he had no real reason to care. Because you hold the mental equivalent of a slug, you are unable to break apart your reasoning from being a normal person and seeing the perspective of other living creatures. Funnily enough, Omniman could, but just didn't care due to the level of arrogance his Viltrumite heritage.

    Now stop making threads about men flying around in capes, you queer. LULZ is a Star Trek board.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All Star Trek media since 2009 has been capeshit-tier, go fuck yourself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying anyone worth their salt watches anything post ENT

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >leftists projecting their dads as supervillains

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are entirely different characters that serve entirely different narrative purposes, if all you see is
    >le bad supraman
    I'm afraid you need to work on raising your cultural competences. Have a good day!

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are not that evil
    nolan ends liking humans, and chadlander is just a broken toy with a lot of issues.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Homelander: He has no identity, never knew a true, selfless parental love and warmth, he's only revered by the masses for his abilities and how he's sold to them, not for who he truly is. Because of that he despises humans and envies them at the same time. He's a failed product, has no real purpose in life besides chasing popularity and that's only because corporation that spawned him tells him to do so. He could be the bringer of good and justice after freeing himself from the Vought's grasp, but the years of abuse, power tripping and so on made it impossible. He's unstable bag of issues and insecurities, a painted corpse, pretty face and fantasy of power revered by the public that will ultimately bring them doom. Also, there's a reason he's wearing strips and stars.

    Omniman: He knows well who he is and what is life goal is. He's not evil, he's immoral, a natural born conqueror raised in the society of warriors. He let's his true nature to be dormant for a short while, but only to see if Mark is worthy and if he'll help him with the conquest of Earth. Everything he does makes sense, there's no impulsiveness, insecurities. When he confronts Mark at the end of the first season, first cracks in his character appear: his own flesh and blood has entirely different outlook on things. This is his only internal conflict we see.

    How are they the same archetype? Because muh jawline and cape?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically most sane post I've seen on this board. Based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw I finally realize after reading all those comics and watching all those movies that patriotism is... le bad...
      thank you Amazon for opening mine eyes to the truth.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is you sneed brain getting fucked by chuck? It's about twisted perception of what patriotism is, not the idea of patriotism per se

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw anon helps me see that it wasn't REAL patriotism...
          and so what is real patriotism, according to these products that only show patriotism as an ignorant trait that evil people take advantage of?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >superhero but EVIL
    It's gay

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    capeshit sucks ass and has sucked the life out of media for like a fucking decade

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my roomate was watching The Boys on tv and he told me I should watch it. The whole time I was thinking "this is memes, this is reddit", and I spent the whole time thinking about shitting on this show on LULZ. My roomate also loved invincible and castlevania netflix

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sure showed him champ

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if i had superman powers id be a good guy and everyone would like me, except for all the raping

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would people rape you just because you're superman?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, I know that the troupe "superman but le bad" can be tiresome after a while. But wasn't the entire point of Omniman that will basically redeem himself and that actually living with a supposed "inferior" race like humans actually made him discover his own humanity, and later on his redemption?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wait, I know that the troupe "superman but le bad" can be tiresome after a while.
      it more like son goku but bad

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What if Superman but… LE BAD?!?!?
    The more I see this lazy subversion the more I appreciate Superman as a character. Being a genuine beacon of hope is more interesting than yet another genocidal god being

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except it wasn’t interesting for a while, hence the subversion characters. Superman isn’t any more interesting now just because that anti-hero concept is more prevalent than it used to be.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually like Superman, but I know he can get boring when you know he will always do the right thing and that he is stronger than everything else. That is why him being Evil or Immoral is more interesting sometimes, because now the other characters that got tossed aside before have to react to this omnipotent being. It is such a good concept, that it is now overused and that will eventually get stale like Superman being Lawful Good and the strongest did. Superman will always be best when facing shit he can't overpower like the human spirit in Red Son, death in All-Star Superman, or his boundaries in Prime.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lazy subversion
      That's Brightburn, retard.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well I mean look who's in control of making all this garbage.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >comfy
    I'm not looking for comfort.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not really the same tho. Omniman doesn't have laser vision and is waaaay stronger than homelander.
    If you're going to say "all flying strong guys are superman ripoffs" then you're really limiting what you can do with superheros.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    welcome to the independent comics world, disney owns marvel and warner owns dc so amazon had to dig through the rest which is full of subversions on the two big publishers.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WASP AMERICA IS LE BAD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would people rape you just because you're superman?

      Homelander is a german or something, and omni man fucks some asian american whore

      They are not WASP they are the modern soulless american

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is like when someone mentions child rapists on twitter and someone yells about antisemitism. Are you admitting that WASPs are demonic?

      But Omni man is literally a super Sayan clone? He barely has anything in common with superman. He isn't a guy with superman powers, who has grown bored with being good, and does evil shit on the side. He is a soldier on a recon mission, doing his best to serve his country. That and he gets a major redemption arc in the comics, and becomes one of the leading good guys, and goes out as an emperor and a hero.

      on the topic of his redemption arc, I wonder if they will be able to sell it. Episode 8 spent most of it's runtime showing him mass murder innocent people. In the comics, it was a few panels of collateral damage, while in the show, it's straight up sadism. Can the viewers really forgive him when he shows up in the next season?

      Cartoon omnicidal maniac can never be redeemed as a hero.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cartoon omnicidal maniac can never be redeemed as a hero.
        Every anime ever has a edgy side character, who murdered people in cold blood, but because he has a sob story, the mc forgives him, and he joins the team as a full fledged good guy.
        If japan can do that, then why can't mutts?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Omnifag isn't just a murderer. He's the antagonist of a guro series.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't the boys also a guro series?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not quite. Cartoon gore is always MUCH worse. The Boys is bad enough, but even Homelander isn't a fraction as bad as Omniqueer.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    unironically this, capeshit was always gnomish. superman especially, being a total inversion of Nietzsche's superman. It's why some people unironically sided or empathized with Zod in Man of Steel btw.
    >literally me

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But Omni man is literally a super Sayan clone? He barely has anything in common with superman. He isn't a guy with superman powers, who has grown bored with being good, and does evil shit on the side. He is a soldier on a recon mission, doing his best to serve his country. That and he gets a major redemption arc in the comics, and becomes one of the leading good guys, and goes out as an emperor and a hero.

    on the topic of his redemption arc, I wonder if they will be able to sell it. Episode 8 spent most of it's runtime showing him mass murder innocent people. In the comics, it was a few panels of collateral damage, while in the show, it's straight up sadism. Can the viewers really forgive him when he shows up in the next season?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >first spoiler
      weak
      >second spoiler
      I hope they don't do first spoiler. But they also won't do the opposite of first spoiler either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to guess the showrunners hardcore tunnel visioned on making Omni-Man's dunking on his son as over the top as possible, with no consideration given to the fact that he needs to become a good guy again by the end.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm going to guess the showrunners hardcore tunnel visioned on making Omni-Man's dunking on his son as over the top as possible, with no consideration given to the fact that he needs to become a good guy again by the end.
        I wonder how hardcore they will go with that hot chick raping the main character, but still redeeming herself after that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can the viewers really forgive him
      Anon, he's the fans' favorite, which might not have been intentional but he still is. It'll be fine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >omni man insanely far gone trying to prove to himself that he's still a viltrumite
      >flaxxons dealt with
      >gonna have donald survive that explosion somehow
      >amber being brown means it'd be racist for mark to dump her for eve
      they did okay with S1 but now that i've read the comic... they messed a few things up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did one thing right too. They made Cecil a badass, lovable and stand up guy. Everyone and their mother loves him now, even though his comicbook counterpart was dumber and more ''muh men in black agent bad''. I really don't want him to pull a big brain fart, when he and Mark get into a conflict. If they really have to, I hope it's better written, and a mutual falling out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >omni man insanely far gone trying to prove to himself that he's still a viltrumite
        The redemption could still work, it'd just need more legwork to succeed.
        >flaxxons dealt with
        They weren't, at the end of the season it was shown they rebuilt and want Nolan dead.
        >gonna have donald survive that explosion somehow
        Probably a small retcon that they found his head or something and thats how he becomes his cyborg self.
        >amber being brown means it'd be racist for mark to dump her for eve
        Eve is still endgame.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >omni man insanely far gone trying to prove to himself that he's still a viltrumite
          >flaxxons dealt with
          >gonna have donald survive that explosion somehow
          >amber being brown means it'd be racist for mark to dump her for eve
          they did okay with S1 but now that i've read the comic... they messed a few things up

          What if they simply cut mecha donald out of it? He was a nice little side character, and he got a nice death scene. What more could you want?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I could see that happening. I wouldn't mind either outcome, personally.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that'd be the smart move at this point but i don't expect smart moves anymore

            >omni man insanely far gone trying to prove to himself that he's still a viltrumite
            The redemption could still work, it'd just need more legwork to succeed.
            >flaxxons dealt with
            They weren't, at the end of the season it was shown they rebuilt and want Nolan dead.
            >gonna have donald survive that explosion somehow
            Probably a small retcon that they found his head or something and thats how he becomes his cyborg self.
            >amber being brown means it'd be racist for mark to dump her for eve
            Eve is still endgame.

            i forgot about the flaxxon tease

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The redemption could still work, it'd just need more legwork to succeed.
          I guess introducing all the other Viltrumites as an even bigger threat, would make Omni man a ''either he is with us, or we are dead'' kind of character. But then they have to redeem those guys too. I guess the concept of love makes mass murderers into loving family people, will be pushed a lot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        being brown means it'd be racist for mark to dump her for eve
        Nobody likes Amber

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Markitect arc was some of the best of the entire run

    The second they adapt BRAPHOG eve I’m taking work off and just cooming in my room all day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      slampig samantha was unf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot how based Mark was, drooling over Eve during this period. I kneel.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I've never paid you rent so why am I still living inside your head?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Both produced by Seth Rogaine
    Shocker.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you don't know where the character of omniman is going since you haven't read the comics. Omniman is a turbobased hero, unironically.

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