There is no prohibition on masturbation in the Bible. There are no words in the Bible that masturbation is a sin. Why is it a sin in Christianity?
There is no prohibition on masturbation in the Bible. There are no words in the Bible that masturbation is a sin.
Jesus wants you to be an asexual eunuch.
It's based on Matthew 5:27-28
>You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
What most Christians don't want to know is that's questionable that's considered adultery if you've never been a relationship.
If you're not married then you can't commit adultery, checkmate nofappers
I wish that was true. Unfortunately I choked out one of my exes for doing exactly that.
Just masturbate to neural network pictures
Basically that verse is talking about if you are married and you are daydreaming about other women then you are committing adultery in your heart and mind. You're cheating on your wife mentally. You should just "be ever intoxicated with your wife's love and breasts" instead of worrying about other women. If you're horny then fuck your wife. That verse doesn't say don't jerk off. Jesus would never jerk off so that's how I know it's a sin. God would never command me to jerk off. It's not within God's will for me to jerk off. If I cum in my sleep then that's out of my control but during the waking hours god isn't desiring me to jerk off. Not my will be done, but god's. Unfortunately I'm helplessly physically addicted. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak, although I don't altogether give up, I still try to manage certain things but ultimately I feel like there are more important sins to attend to than that. Like sins about how I treat people.
>Jesus would never jerk off so that's how I know it's a sin.
Jesus also wouldn't marry but that's not a sin so that's not really good logic to follow. Jesus was exceptional in many ways.
True. I agree with you. But Jesus did everything that he did because he completely submitted to anything god told him to do. So that's why I also said god would never command me to jerk off. He just wouldn't. It's not God's will for me to do that.
>god told him to do
Sounds like he wasnt the God himself
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm the poster you replied to, too. You're completely right.
Three persons, one essence: God, the trinity.
The fathers of the church and the saints went to great lengths to establish that theological fact once and for all.
Moreover, in the Old Testament, adultery is an attempt to kidnap someone else's wife, who at that time was the property of a man
Right. Having sex with a virgin is not adultery. Having sex with a widow is not adultery. Desiring a virgin is not adultery or lust. Desiring a widow is not adultery or lust. Desiring a woman who is not a virgin is adultery, because she is one flesh with whoever her last sexual partner was. He who divorces his wife causes her to commit adultery and he who marries a divorced wife commits adultery. If she's not a virgin or a widow (last sexual partner is dead) then she's one flesh with whoever her last sexual partner was. It's adultery for her to have sex with anyone other than her last sexual partner. And it's adultery for a man to have sex with any women who is already one flesh with another man, who isn't a virgin, who has a last sexual partner who she is one flesh with.
According to church principles, one flesh is formed only after a wedding in a church. Even if she is married but there was no ceremony in the church, then there is no one flesh.
See this post
Having sex is what makes two people one flesh, not weddings or ceremonies in a church. Adam and eve were one flesh with each other without ever having a wedding in a church. That's where the first instance of one flesh comes from. It's a spiritual and physical thing that happens when you unite your bodies. That's why Jesus uses the words "he who unites his body" even though he's not marrying the prostitute in a church, he's just having sex with her, but that's what united him with her as one flesh is having sex with her.
>Why is it a sin in Christianity?
It's not
You didn’t read the Bible and suck at hermeneutics
It's literally never mentioned or even hinted it. The prohibition on it was a Catholic invention that just kind of stuck even with the protestants.
I did actually, now answer the question please
It creates and transfers unclean spirits, especially if you do drugs, smoke weed or ingest spirits all the time that make you go dumb
The Bible condemns ejaculating anywhere other than inside a vagina.
"8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also." -Gen 38
His sin is that he did not make an heir to his brother according to the israeli customs of that time
This, very clearly. That's why it is called "onanism".
He didn't produce an heir, that was the crime. A lot of Genesis is just God trying to create lineages and slaying people who don't go along with it.
Onan's sin is that he did not ejaculate into his brother's wife during sex, although he should have made her pregnant according to israeli law. He didn't even masturbate
>god literally tells you that you need to creampie this woman right now
>still pull out instead of cumming deep in her israeliteussy
What was onans problem?
He gets to keep his dead brother's property if the wife doesn't have a son.
And at the same time used her for sex
He had to consummate the marriage which a man can do without ejaculating inside the woman in question.
The punishment for that in the israeli law that's revealed later isn't death though.
Lust is a sin, there is no other reason for masturbating than to be overcomed with lust.
What about jerking off because you're bored?
>Lust is a sin
So should priests/pastors hand out viagra to married couples if they want children?
This is one of the worst ideas to ever be spread. Read the song of Solomon. God loves sex. God created sex for us to enjoy, within acceptable limits. He who finds a wife finds a good thing and gains favor from the lord. The song of Solomon is literally an erotic poem written by god. Wanting sex and wanting a wife is normal and good. But cheating is not, adultery is not. In heaven you will have a wife and you will have sex. Look up Islamic descriptions of heaven, you will have an wife who is a woman from earth and she will be the most beautiful thing ever and you will have sex with her in heaven, in your palace. Sex is good, adultery is bad. Lust is not desiring sex with a wife, lust is desiring adultery.
Why does Abrahamism hate sex in general so much anyway?
Incel religion. If I can't have it, neither should Chad etc.
It was made at a time when people generally married early and were generally agricultural workers, so having strong families was a must and fornication and adultery could really fuck shit up. The problem is that now people aren't getting married until late if they're even able to at all and having loads of kids is an economic burden rather than boon so the Christian morals are coming into conflict with the modern day realities. Catholics also added extra stuff like no pulling out, but that was never an original Christian concept that's something Catholics threw in hoping they could use it to out breed their competition.
This post right here is proof that people who use the term Abrahamism really mean Christianity.
Its adultery. Adultery isn't cheating its sex outside of marriage including with yourself
We're reaching levels of cuckoldry that shouldn't be possible.
You are retarded
You're a cuck.
You are my reply guy
And that's why the apostle were against marriage (Matthew 19) because inviting wives into your lives commit adultery of your hands.
No, marriage is a sacrament
Is it normal for things to fly over your head?
Fornication is sex outside marriage, adultery is cheating. They're literally referred to separately in the bible.
Ok then its fornication
Masturbation isn't sex, so it's not fornication. it's definitionally impossible to have sex with yourself. There were greek words for masturbation but these were never used or referred to, which if they really cared you'd think they would.
Who are you cheating on if you're not married?
NDErs say that there is no such thing as hell or sin. So we can have as much sex as we want, not just on Earth but in heaven too. They have crazy monkey sex orgies there all the time.
And NDEs are irrefutable proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so undeniably real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o
As this NDEr described their NDE:
>"I saw how life never ends. I remembered the process of reincarnation is endless, wonderful and truly eternal. I witnessed my own spiritual evolution and saw that I had existed long before this present incarnation (where I am now a male human). For me, watching the process of living life, after life, after life unfold, was mind-blowing! I undeniably observed that I had lived an innumerable amount of lives. My NDE clearly showed me that these bodies (we now inhabit) are not the first and only time we have existed! I saw that our soul and spirit is ancient! I also observed that there is no such thing as death."
And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist
So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique. And the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife.
>muh brain chemistry
Neuroscientists are convinced by NDEs too. What do skeptics think they understand that neuroscientists do not?
>muh DMT causes it
Scientifically refuted already, and NDErs who have done DMT too say that the DMT experience, while alien and really cool and fun, was still underwhelming to the point of being a joke when compared to the NDE.
>There is no prohibition on masturbation in the Bible. There are no words in the Bible that masturbation is a sin.
Yes there are. Sexual activity is to take place between a married man and woman.
Any other form of sexual activity (other men, children, yourself, animals etc.) is going after strange flesh, because you are lusting for something that is not your own wife.
What is your denomination exactly?
I'm not under any denomination, but what I said is basic Christian teaching that is believed by pretty much all denominations. Sexual activity is between a man and his wife only, never between anything else, including with his own body.
what is onanism
What?
you do know who onan is right
since you have read the bible
It's already been discussed in the thread that onan wasn't killed for jerking off, considering he literally wasn't jerking off.
so are you coming inside someone after you've finished masturbating or
He wasn't killed for not cumming inside, he was killed for essentially trying to steal his dead brothers property by refusing to give his brothers wife a son.
He was punished for not following an old israeli custom and did not make a child to the wife of a deceased brother, although he had sex with her.
So if you ejaculate in a condom or on your wife's stomach, is it also a sin? And if you masturbate, but do not ejaculate, is it not a sin? And why then is it a sin for a woman to masturbate?
yes to all of it
>And why then is it a sin for a woman to masturbate?
lust for a man who is not her husband
If she is alone?
still not her husband
And?
I do know, and you?
Its because masturbation wasnt a thing most men were plagued by. If you had sexual urges you'd talk to a prostitute or find a community of degenerates.
The reason why masturbation is so widespread now is thanks to pornography and the criminalization and cultural denouncement of prositutiton.
If you have sex with a prostitute you become one flesh with her
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality.
1 Corinthians 6
Whoever her last sexual partner is, she is one flesh with him, and him with her.
It's also because God loves his daughters. That woman would have been childless her whole life because Onan wouldn't have ever given her a child, so was god going to allow the woman to suffer? Women want children. So god slayed Onan as a way of loving his daughter which wanted and need children. Unless Onan died she would never receive children, so god slayed Onan to give the woman a husband who would give her children.
>woman is going to be childless
>demand brother give her child
>brother doesn't
>kill brother
>brother is no longer able to give her a child as hes dead
>woman is childless
Seems a bit self defeating to me
You know full well god gave her another husband after that.
Christians don't read the bible, they let a preacher feed them his own, biased version.
Because masturbation generates attachment to the body, and Christianity is all about the divinity within. In other words, you're not the body. But you'll not comprehend that being attached to the body.