There are no good arguments against anti-natalism
There are no good arguments against anti-natalism
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I don't care about arguing with you. I love my baby daughter. Simple as.
>NOOOO LIFE IS TERRIBLE!!! BUT ALSO I CANT KILL MYSELF
maybe your life?
Has there ever been an anti natalist that said life wasn't misery?
you name ur kid after historical figures and greatly disappoint your husband in the process
can name*
can name*
If anti natalists hate human life so much why are they still alive and haven't committed suicide yet? It's because they actually don't care about their positions they just hate children and the responsibility they entail, and the fact that people around them have children and they are forced to be near their presence
>maybe we shouldn't hurt people
>wow, why haven't you killed yourself?
Is this the best breeders can do?
>Claims to just want to hurt people
>Thinks the only way to do this is just to never be born
So are you evil or an idiot?
> we shouldnt hurt people
Agreed
How is this equivalent to life
You make the assumption every human life is hurtful
This is on itself ilogical
>breeders
not even as joke or an insult, rope and rid us of your retarded ass
none for it either because it all comes down to feels. you aren't going to 'logically' convince someone to or to not reproduce.
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Even though your quads present a challenge to me, I will still attempt to show that natalism can be supported logically.
First of all, we must ask ourselves if there are any objective activities that all humans must follow. I believe that such activities do exist, and some of them are eating food, drinking water, and preserving your life in general. The reason why preservation of life is an objective goal of living beings is because I accept the value of life axiomatically. To be clear, I am not talking about the value of a SPECIFIC life, but rather I'm talking about the value of LIFE in general. A particular life might be worthless, but that doesn't mean LIFE is worthless. So, Life has value, and thus each living being must preserve its own life by eating, building shelters, drinking water, etc.
[2/2] Before I go any further, I must explain the distinction between a persona/person and a being/entity. Every human has a consciousness, aka a singularity, aka a persona. Your experience of reading this post right now is only possible because you are a distinct person. However, you are also a being/entity. An entity/being is something that exists in some way without necessarily having a personhood. Numbers are entities, but they are not persons because they do not have a persona. They are not persons, but they exist in a metaphysical manner.
Activities such as eating, sleeping, drinking, and preserving our lives, are essentially preserving our personhood. We survive as distinct persons by performing such activities. However, we must perform another activity if we wish to survive as ENTITIES too. In order for us to survive as entities/beings, we must have children. Our personhood will still be destroyed upon death, but by having children we ensure the preservation and survival of our impersonal being. In a very real, metaphysical sense, your ancestors, your parents, and your family members survive within you. They are you, not as people/persons, but as a being.
Let me make one more thing clear. There is ONE common characteristic among ALL living beings; THEY ALL REPRODUCE. What commonality exists between a man and a dog, or a worm, or a bee, or a tree, or an amoeba? They all reproduce. This is a very STRONG indication that procreation is one of the goals of humanity. What happens if you don't eat? You die and your personhood is destroyed. What happens if you don't procreate? You eventually die and your being is destroyed. If someone tells me "I dont want to have children", what I hear him saying is "I dont want to eat food".
There are no good arguments for anti-natalism to begin with.
OP why don't you just kys and stop polluting the board with dumb threads if this is what you believe in
you won’t say that after i put my double barrel up your ass and set your brain back in Its place, I’m gonna have 5, children minimum and you can’t stop me, gf is already pregnant with the first
>There are no good arguments against anti-natalism
There are no good arguments for anti-natalism either.