The US has never fought a defensive war

The US has never fought a defensive war

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    War of 1812. Also, that pic is based.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The War of 1812 was America's excuse to try to take Canada

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        War of 1812 was America defending against British naval imperialism assaulting American merchant ships

        Also;

        American Revolutionary War. Another defensive war.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >American Revolutionary War.

          Same as the War of 1812. They were butthurt that Britain wouldn't let them expand westward and murder native Americans

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's only part of it. The British empire was still a looming threat to the early creation of the US. Capturing and annexing Canada would have been strategically pragmatic because it would have increased America's defensive posture. By controlling the entire Atlantic coastline, the British face a harder time bringing an invasion force to North America. Additionally, seizing Canada would have reduced or cut off trade from that area.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The British empire was still a looming threat to the early creation of the US.

          Not really

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The British still had a much larger navy and army. They were kidnapping American sailors and invaded. What do you mean, "not really"?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            America literally started the war. They declared war first lmao

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >America literally started the war. They declared war first lmao
            In response to Britain's aggression and to solidify its independence.

            >ending a sentence in lmao
            Thank you for demonstrating you don't know what you're talking about.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Funny how the americans are always in the right and every war they are in is somehow justified really makes you think

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You're bad at online discourse and probably a disgusting leaf. You should consider killing yourself.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            at least he is not wrong like you are

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Trying to tie in the Atomic bomb to 9/11 is as utterly moronic as claiming that the IRA were mad at England over the firebombing of Dresden.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            After the British impressed sailors and attempted to stop USA from trading with France

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That was a tertiary goal, if any goal at all

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/C2IaOY8.jpg

      The US has never fought a defensive war

      Besides Korea and Vietnam being obviously defensive, a lot of parts of wars were defensive, and calling the entire thing a war is arbitrary.
      America ran away at khafji where it could have fought a major defensive battle, it also failed to send anything to France and the Americans in 1945 were weaker than France in 1940.
      America doesn't have anyone that would attack it so it's obviously all going to be offensive wars overseas, but within those wars it spent a lot of time either doing nothing or defending.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *Ahem*
    >finds a poorly developed yet vast land sparsely populated by Natives more primitive than Sumeria-tier
    >builds roads
    >builds hospitals
    >brings science
    >brings modern medicine
    >brings technological innovation
    >brings electricity
    >brings advanced communication
    >brings advanced transportation
    >brings schooling
    >brings superior thinking and rationale
    >brings air conditioning
    >brings improvements in farming
    >brings beautiful large works of architecture
    >brings countless quality of life improvements
    >brings higher life expectancy
    >brings increased economic profits, spread of culture, and power to the nation
    >ends barbaric practices like scalping
    >"NOOOOOOOOO BUT YOU HAD WAR WITH THE NATIVERINOS AND KICKED THEM OFF THEIR LAND THEY ALWAYS FOUGHT AND DISPLACED EACH OTHER FOR ANYWAY!!!!"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      roads
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      hospitals
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      science
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      modern medicine
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      technological innovation
      gay shit
      electricity
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      advanced communication
      gay shit
      advanced transportation
      gay shit
      schooling
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      superior thinking and rationale
      gay shit
      air conditioning
      gay shit
      improvements in farming
      gay shit
      beautiful large works of architecture
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      countless quality of life improvements
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      higher life expectancy
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      increased economic profits, spread of culture, and power to the nation
      gay shit
      >>ends barbaric practices like scalping
      gay shit

      Frick you, killing people and living in the wilderness is based and how we were intended to live. You could never understand though seeing as you're some kind of East Coast homosexual larping as one of those soft E*roBlack person breeds. The loss of the frontier was the death of our once great nation, and you weak disgusting homosexuals celebrate that it's gone. Your slave family probably came here through Ellis Island with the rest of the trash, but mine came in the 1600s and immediately went as far West as they could and started fighting and fricking Indians. They lived like men and despised your kind. Your scalp deserves to dangle from my belt.
      >b-b-but you would die back then
      GOOD. AT LEAST I WOULD DIE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AND I WOULD BE SPARED HAVING TO SHARE THIS WORLD WITH "PEOPLE' LIKE YOU.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >killing people and living in the wilderness is based and how we were intended to live
        By who exactly? Apparently whoever determined this also determined that spending your time crying on a mongolian basket weaving forum fits the intended way to live though.
        >proceeds to ramble off a multitude of baseless schizo assumptions to make him feel better as he malds
        >contradicts himself by expressing pride in his ancestors that civilized and cultivated the land
        moronic LARPer, many such cases.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The loss of the frontier was the death of our once great nation
        Yeah bro, we should've just kept a large chunk of the country undeveloped as a game preserve for neolithic cultures. The founding fathers were unironically a bunch of moronic brainlets to think they would just never run out of land for their ideal agrarian-based republic.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we should've just kept a large chunk of the country undeveloped as a game preserve for neolithic cultures
          Yes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Great, another one of these homosexual larpers having their schizophrenic ramble about "uhh the world would be so much better if...". No. Shut the frick up. Just because your feeble brain doesn't have the capacity to socialise with other people and hold meaningful relationships outside of online friendships with likeminded morons, doesn't mean your technological pessimism is justified. You love the outdoors so much? Why don't you frick off there and never come backq.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That is literally what I am going to do at the end of this year. I just need to work a few more months and I'll be have enough saved up to get out there and live the way I want to live.
          >capacity to socialize
          Actually, that's a core reason why I'm getting away from homosexuals like you. You people don't socialize, you just use people for your own ends like the sociopaths you all are. Frick you, frick every psued on this board, and I hope you all die horrible meaningless deaths. I would kill every single one of you if I could get my hands on you, saving myself for last to ensure the job was done. None of you have any worth as a human being and will never contribute anything to the society you claim to love so much.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Frick you, frick every psued on this board, and I hope you all die horrible meaningless deaths. I would kill every single one of you if I could get my hands on you, saving myself for last to ensure the job was done
            This is copypasta-tier. Keep it up and your parents will never find your corpse after you disappear and die a week into your odyssey

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You must be like the last based Anglo in the world. Although to be fair it WAS the Anglos that created modernity both technologically and philosophically, so I’m not sure if the Tedpill can be combined with WASP supremacism. t. swarthy german-irish Ellis Island trash

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My family is descended from border reivers, not those posh southern gays. We thrive in savagery and prefer it to civil society.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Does that justify caving indian childrens head in with a axe?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, read Marx, it was historical necessity.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Marx supported the U.S in the Mexican American War

          You will never have a socialist state.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You'll never have your decolonial state either, so moot point

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Marx supported the U.S in the Mexican American War

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  3. 2 years ago
    Dirk

    Pequot war

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The logical conclusion to any opposition towards Manifest Destiny is kowtowing and going back to Europe. It is a philosophical zombie.
    Europeans won. Get over it. Try and take the land back. I dare you.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The impressment issue wasn't even real. They were impressing British people. They let them go if they could prove that they were US citizens

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >throws the sailors' citizenship papers overboard
      >heh looks like you're bri'ish now m8
      >now get your arses below deck

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Japanese launch a surprise attack to try and destroy your navy.
    >They also invade the Philippines, which you own.
    >You fight back.
    >This is somehow not a war to defend your nation.
    I'm having trouble trying to understand what you're talking about.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The US was knowingly provoking Japan and Germany. Why do you think the America First movement existed?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this daily reminder to all they were supplying arms to the british at the start of ww2 all under the guise of being neutral

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >hecking noooooo you can't just give weapons to your friends...that's cheating!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Your directly supplying arms to your allies all while under the facade of being neutral to germany sounds very israeli to me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >DAAA JOOOOOZ
            Took you long enough /misc/troony. Germany lost.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Refusing to sell Japan oil actually means that you're the aggressor.
        moronic take.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Not selling oil to fund your war machine is "deliberately provoking"
        Literal child having a tantrum in the supermarket logic

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being defensive bad.
    Being aggressive good.

    You know about how life is taking action? Being defensive is literally the basedcuck opposite of that

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Your queen just died, shut up

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mexicans fired first in the Mexican American war.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >nooooo you can't just defend yourself when a foreign invader marches in your territory

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >your territory
        Texas wasn't part of Mexico dullard.

        [...]
        Besides Korea and Vietnam being obviously defensive, a lot of parts of wars were defensive, and calling the entire thing a war is arbitrary.
        America ran away at khafji where it could have fought a major defensive battle, it also failed to send anything to France and the Americans in 1945 were weaker than France in 1940.
        America doesn't have anyone that would attack it so it's obviously all going to be offensive wars overseas, but within those wars it spent a lot of time either doing nothing or defending.

        You do realize that isn't an Abrams that soldier is standing on right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it was homosexual. It was a territory in revolt.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Texas won their independence dumbass. The Texian government invited American soldiers in their territory to protect themselves from a 2nd Mexican invasion. Which did happen which sparked the Mexican American war.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you think America wasn’t attacked first in WW2, you are absolutely moronic

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So they are doing it right then?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what is Pearl Harbor and 9/11, you commie homosexual?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Inside jobs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      America provoked both of those attacks. It's called blowback

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not selling oil isn’t a war crime private gomez.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Japan is an island nation with no resources. Not to mention the US was already arming and lending money to the Allies

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WW2?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=2149

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Japan was defensive

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      America was already waging war against Japan in all but name

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >i am no longer trading with you = declaration of war
        moron. Remmeber there was never a blockade around Japan

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    Besides Korea and Vietnam being obviously defensive, a lot of parts of wars were defensive, and calling the entire thing a war is arbitrary.
    America ran away at khafji where it could have fought a major defensive battle, it also failed to send anything to France and the Americans in 1945 were weaker than France in 1940.
    America doesn't have anyone that would attack it so it's obviously all going to be offensive wars overseas, but within those wars it spent a lot of time either doing nothing or defending.

    >The total number of T-72s lost during Operation Desert Storm was about 150 (unrepairable or captured) Thomas R. Mockaitis (2013). The Iraq War Encyclopedia ABC-CLIO. p. 411.
    >Very few M1 tanks were hit by enemy fire and none were destroyed as a direct result of enemy fire, none of which resulted in any fatalities. Wyden, Ron (January 1992). "OPERATION DESERT STORM: Early Performance Assessment of Bradley and Abrams" (PDF). Government Accountability Office. Archived from the original (PDF) on 11 April 2019. Retrieved 5 July 2018.
    Fricking lol
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190411232952/https://www.gao.gov/assets/220/215553.pdf
    Link to pdf for your reading pleasure.

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