The search for something beyond this life

I don't care about anything worldy anymore.. getting a girl, socializing, working, studying, money, they all seem pointless to me.

I want to understand what's behind this life, why we are here.
I try to keep these thoughts aside but every time I try to become more normal, the desire comes back stronger.

Should I start this endless and useless search or just keep adapting to the normal world?
Also where should I even search? Within me or outside?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't keep going through this shit, I need to decide one way or the other. My body and brain have already taken a toll

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Isityche

    You should begin by avoiding all gnomish thought and false promises and deceptions as they are nihilstic Atheists, next you should consider yourself lucky i told you this.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before I impart what you wish to know, what is your religion

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have none since I never really studied anything about religion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure how an atheist came across this board. Here's a little tip for you since you can't be helped much. The supernatural exists in a specifically religious context (good or bad) and you would become religious upon any direct contact with the supernatural.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, OP wants to abandon the physical world but where exactly does he think he will end up when he does kek

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Blaming me for not having a religion is like blaming a child for not being able to do maths.
          As I think I already said in this post, I was isolated for a few years from society, I never studied anything about religion.

          All that I know is that I am unwillingly searching for something outside of this reality

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not having a religion =/= atheism

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I resonate with this.
    Adapt to our shared reality insofar as to buy Earthly time to explore the greater mysteries.
    Search within oneself, then search outside onself. Repeat this process and take time to integrate the experience with each loop...

    If you're searching for topics,
    I suggest:
    Near death experiences
    Lucid dreaming,
    Psychedelics,
    Psychology,
    Philosophy,
    Science,
    Spirituality,
    Metaphysics,

    Just to name a few..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To add to this,
      Researching and contemplating on your studies and meditations only goes so far.

      True knowledge comes from experience.
      Interact with creation to learn more.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't care about anything worldy anymore.. getting a girl, socializing, working, studying, money, they all seem pointless to me.
        Read the book of Ecclesiastes

        We see the world through different lenses depending on our philosophy and state of mind, some of these will blind you, some will show you more, some less.

        A simple thing like a plant can be a thousand different things depending on what you are being and each one may tell you something.

        The important thing is to be upright and moral, then you will be safe to find what you can find but don’t assume any one of these lenses will show you absolutely everything.

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        Each human being must ask himself for,
        search for, and find his own meaning of life,
        and must want to use it (the meaning of life)
        for the improvement of his life and actions.

        Each human being must be himself and be his own “guiding personality”,
        who therefore develops his own resounding ideas and pursues and realizes them.

        Each human being must let his own reason and his own understanding be exercised
        in such a way that he demands from himself that which is best
        and the most salutary; (and) that he forms himself according to his own will,
        and that he obeys (the demands of) his own needs in his own free way.

        Each human being must form himself in such a way that he always is himself,
        has originally-own (unique), intensive experiences,
        (and) that he never lets himself be enslaved or subjugated in any other way and,
        consequently, preserves his internal and external freedom in every respect; in his thoughts and feelings
        as well as in his decisions, views, opinions, emotions and actions, etc.

        Each human being must show towards himself the friendliness and love
        that is necessary for him, and (must) feel safe and secure within himself
        as well as being honest towards himself in such a way that he
        may understand his own thoughts, feelings, emotions, actions and opinions, etc.

        Each human being must direct his thoughts, feelings, ideas,
        wishes, needs and actions etc. in such a way that he feels capable for high-reaching goals that, however,
        shall always be in accordance with his abilities and possibilities and, therefore, shall not be exaggerated and too highly elevated.

        It's Consumption. Consomption is the ONLY basis for ALL things in reality and you can not interact with it at all without the presupposition that you have consumed other life beforehand.

        THIS, is the only core principal of reality. AKA Prima Materia

        All supremely true

        the moon is hollow inside and there are beings in it, and aliens certainly exist. 100% not fucking with u here, and all the claims actually can be verified. there, i just made your would looks cooler, more wonderful, and perhaps, more closer to whatever 'answer' u think is answer.
        >endless and useless search
        with that attitude youd better not start at all! just adopt the attitude of 'seeing things as they are', not to find ultimate answer or whatever. we are puny beings, we do all the little silly quests that we can. what matters is one's intention.
        intention is important.
        i found literally wonderful and obscure knowledges from the internet, while everyone around me have literally SAME ACCESS to internet yet they dont see anything, cos they do not care, their intentions are elsewhere, on this ever shifting world and its bullshit. what pity! god lies in their phones and they do not even type the keywords.
        if u wanna see, u will later see, but theres no end to this whole thing. the world is full of mysteries still!

        I would be wary of conspiracies because the obsession with them betrays the fear of death or being prepared for an event that is either False or beyond your control. But God is already at the wheel, all you have to do is give good directions. The state of peace found in Christ is like being comfortably seated in a chariot while the fire burns all around you.

        You know what is good, so choose to do good. Don't take vows but do what you say you will do. What is hateful to you don't do to another. Watch Gurren Lagann again

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [deleted post]

          Here's another good thread right now that helps here

          [deleted post]

          >The ideal path is retreat
          >Those who can't do prolonged retreats should do the path of renunciation in their ordinary lives.
          >Those who are unable to renounce should transmute hindrances,
          >those who are unable to transmute should see everything as originally pure and abide in this.
          >Those who cannot see everything as pure should go seek out the impure until they see pure.
          >Those who cannot seek out the impure should do nothing in specific and abide in doing nothing in specific.

          People who don't have a clue will just keep acting in delusion.
          People who can feel the difference between good and bad will test everything and come to their own conclusions.
          People who know the outcomes of the testing already will take on difficult tasks for the sake of others and let God repay the debt.
          People who are pure will know that the world is pure already, and perfectly made.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consider becoming a monk of some kind then. It sounds like you have nothing to lose from a honest attempt

    >Also where should I even search? Within me or outside?
    False dichotomy. The internal and external landscape are equally influential

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 18 from italy, just finished high school. What do I have to lose? A good friend I made, my teenage years.
      Nothing else really..

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why are we here
    We all chose Life (capitalization intended) at some point.
    We never expected a crappy, dysfunctional System. (Maybe some people did and are masochists, but I digress.)

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't care about anything worldy anymore.. getting a girl, socializing, working, studying, money, they all seem pointless to me.
    Read the book of Ecclesiastes

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to know God

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Merlinvs

    We see the world through different lenses depending on our philosophy and state of mind, some of these will blind you, some will show you more, some less.

    A simple thing like a plant can be a thousand different things depending on what you are being and each one may tell you something.

    The important thing is to be upright and moral, then you will be safe to find what you can find but don’t assume any one of these lenses will show you absolutely everything.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Each human being must ask himself for,
    search for, and find his own meaning of life,
    and must want to use it (the meaning of life)
    for the improvement of his life and actions.

    Each human being must be himself and be his own “guiding personality”,
    who therefore develops his own resounding ideas and pursues and realizes them.

    Each human being must let his own reason and his own understanding be exercised
    in such a way that he demands from himself that which is best
    and the most salutary; (and) that he forms himself according to his own will,
    and that he obeys (the demands of) his own needs in his own free way.

    Each human being must form himself in such a way that he always is himself,
    has originally-own (unique), intensive experiences,
    (and) that he never lets himself be enslaved or subjugated in any other way and,
    consequently, preserves his internal and external freedom in every respect; in his thoughts and feelings
    as well as in his decisions, views, opinions, emotions and actions, etc.

    Each human being must show towards himself the friendliness and love
    that is necessary for him, and (must) feel safe and secure within himself
    as well as being honest towards himself in such a way that he
    may understand his own thoughts, feelings, emotions, actions and opinions, etc.

    Each human being must direct his thoughts, feelings, ideas,
    wishes, needs and actions etc. in such a way that he feels capable for high-reaching goals that, however,
    shall always be in accordance with his abilities and possibilities and, therefore, shall not be exaggerated and too highly elevated.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the moon is hollow inside and there are beings in it, and aliens certainly exist. 100% not fucking with u here, and all the claims actually can be verified. there, i just made your would looks cooler, more wonderful, and perhaps, more closer to whatever 'answer' u think is answer.
    >endless and useless search
    with that attitude youd better not start at all! just adopt the attitude of 'seeing things as they are', not to find ultimate answer or whatever. we are puny beings, we do all the little silly quests that we can. what matters is one's intention.
    intention is important.
    i found literally wonderful and obscure knowledges from the internet, while everyone around me have literally SAME ACCESS to internet yet they dont see anything, cos they do not care, their intentions are elsewhere, on this ever shifting world and its bullshit. what pity! god lies in their phones and they do not even type the keywords.
    if u wanna see, u will later see, but theres no end to this whole thing. the world is full of mysteries still!

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a book with the secret to eternal life.

    For this reason, it is the best-selling book of all time, The Bible. Try reading it and finding the hidden message within.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymouse

      shouldn't it be free?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just go to a church or a Christian and ask for one, someone will give one to you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, I am reading it.
      You can call me crazy or a homosexual or a child or whatever but I was once an avid player of Minecraft, especially an anarchy server called 2b2t..
      This server once had a very active owner called Housemaster that played the server along with his friends, giving them powers that normal players didn't have and things as such..
      Then, after some time the server grew in popularity and Housemaster and all of his buddies stopped playing the game and they disappeared, becoming legends and myths. New players only know about them through youtube videos that some very old players made, they could be fake or speculation but we don't know.
      Now the owners of the server update it once in a while, they patch some bugs, they ban some players that cause too much trouble but never show themselves.

      Just by reading the first ~100 pages of Genesis I get reminded of that.
      What if God created this world and used to be here doing whatever the hell he wanted, then some people wrote the Bible, which is the story of some of God's first creations. But then he just disappeared and never showed himself again?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more likely that God is a Boltzman Brain that developed in a much higher dimension than our own. He never "leaves" because the entire lifetime of the 3D dimension we are in that He created only lasts an instant to Him. He does things over much longer periods of time than humans do and uses probability waves to alter things when He needs to intervene/answer prayers of the free willed people He created. Even if no one prayed though, eventually (over a longer period of time for us) things would work out the same way, with humanity flailing on its own in its sin until His son returns to rescue us from ourselves, followed by the God Head Himself a thousand years later as the Bible states to transform us all, judge the wicked and transform the earth for a new purpose that has not been revealed to us yet. Hope that makes sense. We are at the beginning of the prophecy in Daniel Chapter 7 right now. The Lion is the UK, it's wings are the US. The four headed beast is Germany, Italy, Spain and France, the biggest members of the EU. The Bear is Russia, the ribs are the Ukraine and the next two nations Russia will invade before the end. The last nation (I believe) is an Islamic Caliphate that the Anti-Christ comes out of. Good luck and God bless.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OP here, I am reading it.
          You can call me crazy or a homosexual or a child or whatever but I was once an avid player of Minecraft, especially an anarchy server called 2b2t..
          This server once had a very active owner called Housemaster that played the server along with his friends, giving them powers that normal players didn't have and things as such..
          Then, after some time the server grew in popularity and Housemaster and all of his buddies stopped playing the game and they disappeared, becoming legends and myths. New players only know about them through youtube videos that some very old players made, they could be fake or speculation but we don't know.
          Now the owners of the server update it once in a while, they patch some bugs, they ban some players that cause too much trouble but never show themselves.

          Just by reading the first ~100 pages of Genesis I get reminded of that.
          What if God created this world and used to be here doing whatever the hell he wanted, then some people wrote the Bible, which is the story of some of God's first creations. But then he just disappeared and never showed himself again?

          You might be interested in this although it ties to the server to Buddhism, not Biblical mythology

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            based
            not him, but I'm really glad you posted this because I've had this very same idea and have spoken about it before so now i get to shove this image in my frens face and be like - seeeee

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-mythology.html

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            book of Solomon has that too

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a former atheist who became a Christian after having had a very powerful encounter with the Holy Spirit when I was 23 that was unexpected. I can say that I have encountered on multiple occasions paranormal events that I never would have believed in before I was saved, including having seen a demonic presence, felt angelic presences, healings, legitimate events that could not have been orchestrated or executed by humans as the timing was perfect, moving objects with other witnesses, etc. last year, I also had my first genuine vision. I was brought to another place while my eyes were wide open and could only see that place. It was a brilliantly bright white room, with a very lustrous/shiny hard wood floor and open double doors at the other end of the space. Beyond the doors was a wilderness with a "sun" or bright shining/glowing star that had light rays that exuded from it SLOWLY. I realized that I was seeing God. There was a message that I will not state here through more imagery that was personal to my prayers at the time. It was SUPER REAL, beyond lucid dreaming, and NOT HERE AT ALL. There was an incredible infinite peace that came with being in that place. Ever since this experience, the real world seems blurry and dim to my eyes and I have always had better than 20/20 vision. Hope this helps. Jesus is real and He is coming back. God bless you all. Praying for you.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look within you, and you will find... well, i dont wanna ruin the surprise, but it's something very, very interesting, took me about 7 months to finally realize it, but it was 100% worth it

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read the path to nibbana by David Johnson

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Study Taoism, Alchemy, and read the apocryphal gospels. I suggest starting with Taoism because it's less obscure and it will give you the necessary basis for understanding everything else.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So basically we as a species all need to find out how to alter or go against the paradox resolving mechanism of the universe if there is such a mechanism. This is the ultimate way to overcome all limitation if there is such a thing and a way to go against it.

    If there is such a thing filtering comes that come into existing in our reality than the potential that comes with removing it would be almost unthinkable. You could probably live your live exactly how you wanted.

    Essentially:

    [deleted post]

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If there is such a thing filtering possibilities or whatever stuff in our universe is allowed to exist then the potential that comes with removing/controlling it would be almost unthinkable I meant.*

    The universe as with other universes as some have been saying might have a filtering or condensation mechanism which makes everything conform to a certain position in its narrative.

    The question is what type of machine or method we might need.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything which comes into contact with it atleast in theory*

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sit in silence and observe anything.
    The way your body feels.
    The thoughts which come.
    How you may desire to "fix" and "change" things.
    How you may desire to follow some thoughts and make scenarios in your mind.
    Your fears.
    Sit in silence and watch.

    This is the first step, the next steps will show themselves when its time.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's Consumption. Consomption is the ONLY basis for ALL things in reality and you can not interact with it at all without the presupposition that you have consumed other life beforehand.

    THIS, is the only core principal of reality. AKA Prima Materia

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's nothing to search for bro, your already exactly what you'll spend a lifetime looking for

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