Suffering and evil helps you become based and grow past your weakness.
Redditors have a hard time understanding this become they're essentially decadent hedonists cuckolds
The paradox of evil is gay
Suffering and evil helps you become based and grow past your weakness.
Redditors have a hard time understanding this become they're essentially decadent hedonists cuckolds
you tried to have a thought, i guess
Ok redditor
Can all Reverend Insanity fags off themselves already? I don't want to see this shit every day.
It's berserk you retarded tranny
Same thing, different name. DOGSHIT.
>Can all Reverend Insanity fags off themselves already? I don't want to see this shit every day.
The Paradox of Evil relies upon the idea that we know what "evil" is, or that it even exists. God may have different views on it than us, and being God, His way of seeing things automatically supercedes ours. It's only a problem if you're a Christian or believer of some other religion that says God is like this or that. As for myself, I am not arrogant enough to assign any qualities or beliefs to the Supreme Being.
The worst things that can happen to humans is horrific and torturous suffering, so unless what's waiting for us is something nice enough to make up for it then I don't see how it could be 'good' from the demiurge's perspective. If from a greater point of view pain and torture is not bad, then regardless of point of view we're into a Hellraiser situation of existence where the subjective experience of pain and negative emotions are actually pleasurable. In which case people who torture animals and babies and stuff aren't evil. I don't see how you can make it gel otherwise.
This guy experiences suffering and has no idea whether it's bad or good
>Suffering and evil helps you become based and grow past your weakness.
What about all the suffering that doesn't do that? Like babies dying of horrible diseases? Did that make them based or was it just horrible?
This is a valid answer. In my opinion it's the best one. God could have a standard of good completely different from ours. He might be indifferent to human suffering or even enjoy it. Problem is that's not the kind of God most people want to believe in. They want to believe in a God who they can turn to saying "Lord, I'm suffering" and God would care.
>It's only a problem if you're a Christian or believer of some other religion that says God is like this or that
Not really bro. What you said basically what was said in Job. "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth?"
what do you know about suffering? What do you know about evil? Also how do you assume somebody else's life experiences?
Was G-d unable to create a world where people can grow past their weakness without suffering and evil? Was G*d incapable of creating people without weaknesses to begin with? Then g0d is not all-powerful, or not all-good.
God created the conditions for things and beings to - be -. The implications and intricacies resulting from the interactions of said things and beings are left to casuality and it would be hubris on God's behalf to try and control that. God is not a Demiurge.
G_d created conditions for beings knowing full well that they'll lead to suffering and evil? Then he's not all-good
Or was G@d not able to predict the outcome of his conditions? Then he's not all-powerful.
yea
I don't have anything to say except that you have a very poor vocabulary if you use words like "based" and "redditor"
Ok unbased reddit
thanks for proving my point, i guess
leave him be. The poor guy is probably 17 years old and has just discovered Nietzsche, atheism and Andrew Tate. His penis still has to ejaculate for the first time. He still has time for redemption
I agree, but I'd change the wording a bit. You can only grow from suffering if you have the tools to overcome it, and at that point, the suffering becomes a challenge.
A child who experiences abuse will not grow from the suffering, quite the opposite. But, a man who becomes disabled when he previously was not, can overcome the suffering that the change brings. He might even become a better person, learn to be humble and value the kindness shown to him.
Isnt that Iraneaus's heresy
Why is it that every chad I have ever encountered is a massive optimist and the stuff you write only ever comes from gigantic coping losers?
Optimism is a just a form of coping
Well it seems to be working for them. If you're pessimistic all the time you will not see as much opportunities, and risk letting life pass you by because you expect nothing from it.
You are in for a disappointment. Life brings nothing, you can keep hoping for opportunities but eventually you will realize that's just a dream.
>You are in for a disappointment. Life brings nothing, you can keep hoping for opportunities but eventually you will realize that's just a dream.
I'd rather be dissapointed than regretful over all of the opportunities I passed up because I was so pessimistic I thought nothing could would ever come of it (of which I already have many).
You didn't pass them up, you were simply unlucky not being at right place at the right time, your state of mind was and is still irrelevant, those opportunities they weren't even for you to take advantage of because you are just like the rest of us unlucky people. The 0.01 % of lucky people have 1000s of opportunities present themselves daily to them and they naturally take advantage of them. You merely saw a few and you missed them. Regret not being born lucky.
And pessimism is being a pathetic pussy that allowed itself to be crushed my life's difficulty.
Anyone who actually believes this shit is just mentally ill. You got issues. You're coping. I am also mentally ill and attracted to it.
Suffering is avoidable yet you seek it. This is unnatural.
Suffering doesn't make you stronger it makes you dysfunctional.
Unless you're so fucking lazy that suffering to you is the baseline of discipline everyone else has.
Bring on the pain
>Anyone who actually believes this shit is just mentally ill. You got issues. You're coping. I am also mentally ill and attracted to it.
Yep this. I used to believe this shit when I was in retrospect really fucking depressed.
>Suffering is avoidable
It quite literally is not. Anyone who has ever lived has experienced some kind of suffering, some of which was definitely unavoidable. Losing a loved one, for example.
The Paradox of Evil comes from Epicurian ideals in which the Gods are anthropomorphic and man derives his ideals and interaction with nature from them. Even when dealing with Zeus, it falls flat on its face because trying to "outthink" a deathless and divine being that is somehow beholden to the moral logic of mortals.
>Oh noes! I am guess I am EVIL!
So what? The God is going to God and there is nothing you can do about it no matter how paradoxically you futilely try to reason it out.
The whole notion seems an exercise in futility on behalf of humans and their autistic attempts to construct a meaningful tautology out of the senses and downstream thoughts of existence.
amazing thread