>How did they do it?
More to the point, the movie introduces its characters one at a time and often starts off with their unlikable qualities. When they come into conflict, it's not over personality clashes but serious threats they pose to each other's goals and loved ones, so when homegirl has to make her case she's not just making a hero speech, she's right at the crux of the profound risk and self-sacrifice that's at the heart of the OT. And yet when our heroes go into battle it is with the understanding that somehow they are going to make this work and possibly even survive. They are convincing about this, and since main characters in SW often survive hopeless situations we can almost believe it too. Meanwhile on the Imperial side we don't just see a bunch of arrogant power-mongering and palace intrigue. We see jealousy, cowardice, and pathetic office politics driving a wanton disregard for human life. We see families broken apart, we see beautiful places destroyed and friends die in each other's arms, and all of this without casting it in the usual edgy reboot pall. It still looks and feels like a Star Wars film.
I didn't like that everybody died. The only character I found myself interested in was the droid, and they killed him off too. The only place that excited me and gave me that old Star Warsy feeling of woah, look, a real place that looks lived in and I would like to go there was the mining town, and they blew it up. It was a series of small treats followed by a series of small bummers. That put me off my feed for a long time.
And yet, possibly because everything else besides The Mandalorian they've put out has been so deliberately vile, it has grown on me.
Gareth Edwards is a legitimately great filmmaker, and he set out to make a movie as exciting and moving as the original, which with all due respect to episodes V and VI had never really been done before. So of course Disney did the obvious thing and fired him. When they asked Tony Gilroy to replace him for reshoots, Gilroy brought Edwards back on the set.
wasnt gilroy brought in specifically due to edwards asking for him? gilroy supposedly helped with some pick ups on godzilla and went on to do second unit on rogue one's reshoots alongside rewrites
You do know that the third act which everyone likes about the movie is entirely due to Tony Gilroy right? He had to reshoot the whole thing because the first cut was horrible.
You do know that the third act which everyone likes about the movie is entirely due to Tony Gilroy right? He had to reshoot the whole thing because the first cut was horrible.
That Gilroy had to do a rewrite and reshoots isn't in dispute. The question of how intimately he worked with Edwards is clouded in diplomatic interview talk, but Edwards doesn't make the sort of movies some people picture when they read Gilroy call the director's cut a mess, and what Gilroy did was accomplished in just a few weeks. The point here is that they stated with a director who's actually qualified to make a Star Wars movie, and then Gilroy showed restraint instead of rolling one of those Lorax shredders over the material which is what happened with the other Disney movies.
They actually got a good filmmaker who was a fan of the OT who was also respectful to the source material. JJ on the other hand is a fucking hack and can't resist throwing in zoomer-tier tricks like snap zooms, shaky cams, and dutch angles just to keep the audience's attention. At least Rogue One looked good.
There really wasn't anything different between the trailer and the final product at all. They kept changing their mind on whether Whitaker should have hair or not, and they included the TIE fighter just for the trailer shot which was confirmed by the SFX team. I want to see what the film was supposed to look like before it got rewritten and reshot altogether, before the trailer.
By having great respect and even affection for the source material, which is the exact opposite attitude all the other Yidsney Wars properties have had. Except for good old Mando, whoch may have been a flash in the pan.
Is literally the right answer. No Jedi, no Skywalkers (other than a couple of minutes at the end). There are millions of stories in the Star Wars universe but Disney seem to want to tell the same one over and over again and we all know the ending.
If I'm correct, all these Star Wars shows were originally going to be movies until Solo flopped and Rise of Skywalker barely even hit a billion dollars, yes?
They'll stall until Kennedy dies or gets picked for Kamala Harris's cabinet. Feige will be put in charge of Star Wars and Favreau will take over the MCU.
Bros... they've monopolised the portrayal of rebellion. Left wing controls Hollywood and you JUST KNOW anytime anyone in any TV show or movies says or references rising up, they are CONSCIOUSLY creating it to be as comparable as possible to beautiful trans black women killing all the nazi republicans. It's over.
Kinda hilarious to see how badly mousecucks are shilling rogue one recently, simply for being the only simi-competent DisneyWars movie.
However, they always forget: >The first act had schizophrenic pacing. >Too many characters, none of them were developed, the movie did not succeed in making me care about any of those expendable mooks, ergo I didn't care when all of them bit the dust. >Jyn was quite boring and bland. > Plot too linear. Characters set goals and then achieve them. They tackle obstacles mainly through action sequences. Any moment when it seems like their established plan for achieving a goal may go off the rails, it doesn't. >The ultimate message of "muh hope" is overplayed and the movie doesn't say anything beyond that. >Vader lowering himself to hacking down some goons was nothing but gratuitous fanservice and quite out of character with his portrayal in the OT. > The ending with Leia does not reconcile with the beginning of episode 4
>Vader lowering himself to hacking down some goons was nothing but gratuitous fanservice and quite out of character with his portrayal in the OT.
He jumps into a TIE in ANH specifically to go do some work himself. I think he was always meant to come across as the Emperor's general purpose right hand man. He doesn't generally join any frontal assaults, of course.
> The ending with Leia does not reconcile with the beginning of episode 4
This bugs me too, it should have been any other freighter escaping with the plans, then a quick cut of that ship making an exchange with the Tantive, and then cut to terrifying zombie Leia.
It wasn't actually good, it was just bad within tolerable levels, which compared to the Disney Trilogy makes it look like gold. It still sucked and the Darth Vader scenes (especially the massacre scene) were pure syoy bait.
they understood the star wars unverse. characters have a sense of the stakes. the desth star is terrifying. sense of scale and great cinematography. great action and effects.
the vader scene is fucking awesome, and is the only vader scene demonstrating why he is so feared.
It was fucking awful what was redeeming about this movie other than some nice shots? Every single character is so cookie cutter it's embarrassing and the dialogue and screenplay is like something out of a 3D animated kids flick
that's actually what enabled the movie to work, as opposed to every other Disneywars product. it HAD to take its characters at least a bit seriously, and had to make sure it tied everything up at the end. it ends up actually poigniant
Didn't Edwards want Vader to be like a Xenomorph and the original concept was more of a slasher hybrid with him hunting down the crew one by one during their suicide mission a la Alien
>I AM ONE WITH REDDIT
>REDDIT IS WITH ME
no
Visually incredible like Godzilla 2016 but pretty soulless too
This is nonsense.
>How did they do it?
More to the point, the movie introduces its characters one at a time and often starts off with their unlikable qualities. When they come into conflict, it's not over personality clashes but serious threats they pose to each other's goals and loved ones, so when homegirl has to make her case she's not just making a hero speech, she's right at the crux of the profound risk and self-sacrifice that's at the heart of the OT. And yet when our heroes go into battle it is with the understanding that somehow they are going to make this work and possibly even survive. They are convincing about this, and since main characters in SW often survive hopeless situations we can almost believe it too. Meanwhile on the Imperial side we don't just see a bunch of arrogant power-mongering and palace intrigue. We see jealousy, cowardice, and pathetic office politics driving a wanton disregard for human life. We see families broken apart, we see beautiful places destroyed and friends die in each other's arms, and all of this without casting it in the usual edgy reboot pall. It still looks and feels like a Star Wars film.
I didn't like that everybody died. The only character I found myself interested in was the droid, and they killed him off too. The only place that excited me and gave me that old Star Warsy feeling of woah, look, a real place that looks lived in and I would like to go there was the mining town, and they blew it up. It was a series of small treats followed by a series of small bummers. That put me off my feed for a long time.
And yet, possibly because everything else besides The Mandalorian they've put out has been so deliberately vile, it has grown on me.
Gareth Edwards is a legitimately great filmmaker, and he set out to make a movie as exciting and moving as the original, which with all due respect to episodes V and VI had never really been done before. So of course Disney did the obvious thing and fired him. When they asked Tony Gilroy to replace him for reshoots, Gilroy brought Edwards back on the set.
wasnt gilroy brought in specifically due to edwards asking for him? gilroy supposedly helped with some pick ups on godzilla and went on to do second unit on rogue one's reshoots alongside rewrites
You do know that the third act which everyone likes about the movie is entirely due to Tony Gilroy right? He had to reshoot the whole thing because the first cut was horrible.
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Sauce on this extravagant horseshit please.
That Gilroy had to do a rewrite and reshoots isn't in dispute. The question of how intimately he worked with Edwards is clouded in diplomatic interview talk, but Edwards doesn't make the sort of movies some people picture when they read Gilroy call the director's cut a mess, and what Gilroy did was accomplished in just a few weeks. The point here is that they stated with a director who's actually qualified to make a Star Wars movie, and then Gilroy showed restraint instead of rolling one of those Lorax shredders over the material which is what happened with the other Disney movies.
plus watch the original trailer - totally different vibe, completely different lines from Whitaker
I would have loved to see the original cut
#releasewhitakercut
They actually got a good filmmaker who was a fan of the OT who was also respectful to the source material. JJ on the other hand is a fucking hack and can't resist throwing in zoomer-tier tricks like snap zooms, shaky cams, and dutch angles just to keep the audience's attention. At least Rogue One looked good.
There really wasn't anything different between the trailer and the final product at all. They kept changing their mind on whether Whitaker should have hair or not, and they included the TIE fighter just for the trailer shot which was confirmed by the SFX team. I want to see what the film was supposed to look like before it got rewritten and reshot altogether, before the trailer.
>actually clever shots in Disneywars
such a breath of fresh air.
>this is a rebellion isn’t it
>I rebel
Yeah we really missed out
That's not Solo
Based as fuck.
>Söylo
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By having great respect and even affection for the source material, which is the exact opposite attitude all the other Yidsney Wars properties have had. Except for good old Mando, whoch may have been a flash in the pan.
By not having any Jedi in it
Is literally the right answer. No Jedi, no Skywalkers (other than a couple of minutes at the end). There are millions of stories in the Star Wars universe but Disney seem to want to tell the same one over and over again and we all know the ending.
Don't worry Anon. It was an accident and they won't let it happen again.
I love fucking Star Wars!
If I'm correct, all these Star Wars shows were originally going to be movies until Solo flopped and Rise of Skywalker barely even hit a billion dollars, yes?
Mando and ObiWan were originally movies but those are the only confirmed ones. Theyll milk movies again as soon as they can.
They'll stall until Kennedy dies or gets picked for Kamala Harris's cabinet. Feige will be put in charge of Star Wars and Favreau will take over the MCU.
How about get Lucas back?
Implying Lucas would do any better
Bunnyfu
Bros... they've monopolised the portrayal of rebellion. Left wing controls Hollywood and you JUST KNOW anytime anyone in any TV show or movies says or references rising up, they are CONSCIOUSLY creating it to be as comparable as possible to beautiful trans black women killing all the nazi republicans. It's over.
Kinda hilarious to see how badly mousecucks are shilling rogue one recently, simply for being the only simi-competent DisneyWars movie.
However, they always forget:
>The first act had schizophrenic pacing.
>Too many characters, none of them were developed, the movie did not succeed in making me care about any of those expendable mooks, ergo I didn't care when all of them bit the dust.
>Jyn was quite boring and bland.
> Plot too linear. Characters set goals and then achieve them. They tackle obstacles mainly through action sequences. Any moment when it seems like their established plan for achieving a goal may go off the rails, it doesn't.
>The ultimate message of "muh hope" is overplayed and the movie doesn't say anything beyond that.
>Vader lowering himself to hacking down some goons was nothing but gratuitous fanservice and quite out of character with his portrayal in the OT.
> The ending with Leia does not reconcile with the beginning of episode 4
>Vader lowering himself to hacking down some goons was nothing but gratuitous fanservice and quite out of character with his portrayal in the OT.
He jumps into a TIE in ANH specifically to go do some work himself. I think he was always meant to come across as the Emperor's general purpose right hand man. He doesn't generally join any frontal assaults, of course.
> The ending with Leia does not reconcile with the beginning of episode 4
This bugs me too, it should have been any other freighter escaping with the plans, then a quick cut of that ship making an exchange with the Tantive, and then cut to terrifying zombie Leia.
>The only good SW project from Disney era
Sorry wrong pic
absolutely based
I love this fucking crazy whore.
>God of War 3 director outshining Balrog so hard that he is going to make a sci fi game
KWAB
GoW 3 was bad though
Better than 2018 GoW at least
RO action scenes are great. And there is also based Mads. Rest is rather shit.
The only particularly good part was the big battle scene.
It had actually competent villains a rarity in Star Wars the heroes actually take losses an extreme rarity in Star Wars
Its only good in comparison to the other movies, because they were more shit.
Its still a fucking bore and a waste of two hours. Kino isn't dependant on whether or not you can get a Lego set for it, fuckwit.
Okay don't drag Legos into it motherfucker. There are still some pure things in this world.
The writing in this movie was fucking embarrassing, all characters were cardboard cutouts.
there was a blind samarai who thought he was a jedi, how is that a cardboard cutout
It was pure Star Wars nostalgia and that's all the franchise has left. Good movie tbqh
That actress is pretty
It wasn't actually good, it was just bad within tolerable levels, which compared to the Disney Trilogy makes it look like gold. It still sucked and the Darth Vader scenes (especially the massacre scene) were pure syoy bait.
Fuck this gay ass movie, If it wasn't for Vader nobody would give a shit about it
they understood the star wars unverse. characters have a sense of the stakes. the desth star is terrifying. sense of scale and great cinematography. great action and effects.
the vader scene is fucking awesome, and is the only vader scene demonstrating why he is so feared.
neh, only Mandalorian is okish
It's the worst
Garbage for brainlets. Not a single good character in the movie. The ending was embarrassing.
It was fucking awful what was redeeming about this movie other than some nice shots? Every single character is so cookie cutter it's embarrassing and the dialogue and screenplay is like something out of a 3D animated kids flick
They killed them all. Funny that
>They killed them all. Funny that
that's actually what enabled the movie to work, as opposed to every other Disneywars product. it HAD to take its characters at least a bit seriously, and had to make sure it tied everything up at the end. it ends up actually poigniant
Didn't Edwards want Vader to be like a Xenomorph and the original concept was more of a slasher hybrid with him hunting down the crew one by one during their suicide mission a la Alien
Sounds kino
Rogue One sucks massive balls.
Mandalorian season 1 is the best nu-wars production.
Obi-Wan and Last Jedi are a few rungs below that.
It was just the dirty dozen but star wars.