The JW anon is seriously getting out of hand. Why the fuck won't you ban her already mods? She is actively disrupting the board assholes! She derails every single thread that even has the slightest bit to do with Christianity. Why the fuck won't you do anything?
I am a man you retard.
Ywnbam
Not him (her). She would never use the word “retard”.
No I didn't
You are not me
Most JWs are very intelligent and logical since our religion is based on facts
How is Christianity a cult ?
Completely untrue. There is no verse that says you can't use the internet
So let me get this straight
You are mad at me because, as a Christian, I...replied to Christian threads ??
>Completely untrue. There is no verse that says you can't use the internet
Except you don’t actually go by the “verses” in the Bible. You go by whatever you Governing Body tells you. The override the Bible and are your God.
The governing body are simply spiritual guides who base themselves on the Bible to care for God's servants
We go with whatever the Bible tells us
And the Bible doesn't say a Christian can't use the internet
Unless you can show me ?
The Governing Body is not biblical. They are cult leaders and you are a cult member. They are your masters and you are required to believe whatever they tell you or be disfellowshipped. End of story.
The funny thing is, even if someone in LULZ could convince you that you’re wrong, you would still not be able to accept it, out of fear you would be disfellowshipped and lose all your friends and family. That is an evil cult, and I hope you die in it, you deserve it.
>The Governing Body is not biblical
Yes it is
They follow the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2)
They look to the Bible for guidance, acknowledging that Jehovah God has appointed Jesus Christ as the Head of the congregation.—1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 5:23.
>They are cult leaders and you are a cult member.
Untrue. Cults are dangerous. Whereas, the Bible has improved the life of anyone who follows it.
>They are your masters and you are required to believe whatever they tell you
the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization. We do not look to any human, but rather to Jesus Christ, as our leader, and so do they. Jehovah’s Witnesses follow what Jesus taught and put it into practice. That is what it means to be a Christian. Accordingly, Jehovah’s Witnesses strive to adhere strictly to the precepts established by the first Christians.
>or be disfellowshipped
....are you suggesting people who commit evil things should remain in the congregation? I wouldnt' want that. I'd actually leave such a religion if it were the case.
>the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization
Now I dare you to say all that to an elder at the Kingdom Hall and see how well it goes.
Ok ? Every single elder knows that
You seem angry at the gb for some reason
Are you suggesting JWs shouldn't have a governing body ?
If so, please explain how an organized religion can have no organizers
Are you suggesting we should be a disorganized religion ? Because Jehovah is a God of order, not disorganization
lara why dont you get a trip?
>The funny thing is, even if someone in LULZ could convince you that you’re wrong, you would still not be able to accept it,
Show me the verse
>out of fear you would be disfellowshipped and lose all your friends and family.
????? No ?
A JW becomes for no other reason than love for Jehovah and what he has done. This is what being a JW means, to show our gratitude for our Creator.
>That is an evil cult, and I hope you die in it, you deserve it.
Incorrect. I practice a religion that benefits myself and others in the community. For example, our ministry has helped many people to overcome harmful addictions, such as the abuse of drugs and alcohol.
In addition, we conduct literacy classes around the world, helping thousands learn to read and write. And we are actively involved in disaster relief.
We work hard to have a positive impact on others, just as Jesus commanded his followers to do.—Matthew 5:13-16.
Explain how any of this is evil.
You’re an extremely wicked cult that keeps people trapped and not allowed to research or question without fear of being disfellowshipped.
You purposely mistranslated your NWT Bible to mislead people into believing your theology.
You don’t help anyone outside of the organization.
You cover up the crimes of pedophiles in your organization and let them run rampant.
I and everyone on LULZ knows this already, I’m sick of going over it.
>You’re an extremely wicked cult that keeps people trapped and not allowed to research or question without fear of being disfellowshipped.
Not true. The Bible not only encourages readers to examine their own beliefs (1 John 4:1), but it also commends those who check spiritual claims for truth (Acts 17:11).
>You purposely mistranslated your NWT Bible to mislead people into believing your theology.
You are again mistaken. The New World Translation is based on up-to-date scholarly research and the most reliable ancient manuscripts
>You don’t help anyone outside of the organization.
I helped a grandma find her the way to the hospital today. All of the lies you could have said, this is the biggest one yet.
>You cover up the crimes of pedophiles in your organization and let them run rampant.
Not true at all. The policy of Jehovah's Witnesses clearly states: "In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so."
>I and everyone on LULZ knows this already, I’m sick of going over it.
Yes, they know you have a vendetta against God's people just like the Pharaoh, Nero or Hitler
Not true. You are mistaken. The NWT was not translated by scholars, it was translated by Governing Body members who are not qualified in these ancient languages. That’s why they tried to hide the translator’s names, but your own Governing Body member Fran’s leaked them.
>Yes, they know you have a vendetta against God's people just like the Pharaoh, Nero or Hitler
This is the JW’s final tactic when they know they’re losing. “You just hate us because we’re God’s chosen! That proves we’re right!”
No, you’re just a cult of rejects and pedophiles, sorry.
>This is the JW’s final tactic when they know they’re losing. “You just hate us because we’re God’s chosen! That proves we’re right!”
You ahev demonstrated just that. That you hate us for no reason
>No, you’re just a cult of rejects
Rejected by whom ?
>and pedophiles, sorry.
?
Jehovah’s Witnesses view child molestation with the same abhorrence as most human beings. There is no question that child abuse is as disgusting to Jehovah’s Witnesses as it is to most anyone.
Their own religion teaches that fornicators, including child molesters, who do not repent will be destroyed forever by God and shall “not inherit God’s Kingdom”.
Also, you go as far as to insert the word “Jehovah” hundreds of times in the New Testament, even though “YHWH” is not in any of the Greek manuscripts. When called out on this you say, “Well it was all originally written in Hebrew and it was surely in those versions which are now lost because God didn’t care to preserve it, so it was real in my mind.”
Truly dishonest and wicked cult.
Well, the more interesting thing about the name "Jehovah" in particular, is that it's an invention of late antiquity made by inserting "adonai" in to "YHWH". So the claim that Jehovah is the true, original name rendered in English is - pardon my Yiddish - objectively debunked.
It's obvious the Divine Name was in the original NT, so they simply restored it
Jehovah is simply english for YHWH
Just like Jesus is english for Yeshua
Stupid woman
>She
Wait It's a woman? Post booba now
imagine making threads about yourself
literally no one cares youre a girl, youre ugly as fuck, dumb as a door and stupid as a dog. you literally spend all your day posting on an anonymous internet imageboard trying to make yourself relevant with retarded doodles and wrong information
do you really think someone cares about what you do?
The /misc/ anon is seriously getting out of hand. Why the fuck won't you him her already mods? She is actively disrupting the board assholes! She derails every single thread that even has the slightest bit to do with politics. Why the fuck won't you do anything?
Samefag
She’s extremely mentally ill. Most JW’s are.
The guy is autistic. Like, not insulting him, he has all the traits of autism, plus the indoctrination component of his cult. Also he has been ban evading lately.
>He thinks theres only one
We are many
Not really. There’s only 8 million in the world, 90% of which live in third world countries. Also you guys aren’t allowed to be on the internet, especially not LULZ. There are probably more Jeffrey Dahmer fans than there are JW’s.
t.
>he has all the traits of autism
Honestly I've suspected this for a long time. When the average poster here gets btfo they just begin shitsposting to cool off the argument instead of conceding.
JWtroon will type 10+ replies of NUH-UH and begin typing more frequently and neurotically, but still manage to lack substance in their retorts. 100% autism and I've worked with people on the spectrum.
I like JWanon, she's aggressively wrong with her incorrectness and denial of The Book of Mormon but that just makes her feistier. Perhaps a union is in order between our disparate houses to unite two of Christ's clans.
Do you think she'll let us use her as a cum dump?
Idk, maybe. I might have to behead you for using my wife as a cumdump but who knows.
It is a collective effort to derail all christian threads here.
I'm convinced the current JWanon namefag is just a troll, or someone handing things over to a bot sometimes. They are legitimately too retarded to be a real person. You'll see him getting thrashed and he just pastes in shit from jw.org irrelevant to the argument. Maybe it's a prescribed tactic? Just try to wear down and confuse people?
Yeah it's a troll. Like someone else said ITT, JWs can't do lots of stuff without having their supervisor, and come on this is LULZ.
I like that other one's drawings, though. They're the product of an utterly uneducated and incurious mind, but they're cute in that way.
Can't disagree, art is art in the end.
I will leave JWs immediately if you show me the verse that support what you claim
Which drawing have I made that contain wrong information ?
She’s real. You don’t understand. What kind of person would become a JW to begin with? They are the rejects of society, and this cult makes them feel superior to everyone else.
>What kind of person would become a JW to begin with?
Someone who likes to reason logically and study the world
Being honnest with yourself leads you to God
I studied the bible honestly with prayer and I became a Catholic. What happened?
>I studied the bible honestly
With JWs ?
Fo you mean Frederick Franz ?
He's an expert in biblical languages
The master text used for translating the Old Testament into English was Kittel's Biblia Hebraica. The Hebrew texts, Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia and Biblia Hebraica Quinta, were used for preparing the latest version of this translation. Other works consulted in preparing the translation include Aramaic Targums, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Samaritan Torah, the Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, the Masoretic Text, the Cairo Codex, the Aleppo Codex, Christian David Ginsburg's Hebrew Text, and the Leningrad Codex
Franz, it got autocorrected.
Yeah, he outed all your fraud Governing Body members and the NWT and left the organization.
You are confusing Raymond Franz and Frederick Franz
Fredeick Franz is the one who worked on thr NWT. Raymond Franz became an apostate. Peter and Paul both noted that the Christian Church could expect false teachers to arise from WITHIN THE CONGREGATION ELDERS (Acts 20:29, 30; 2Pt 2:1-3).
“However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons” (1 Timothy 4:1).
Anyone who exposes your pedo cult from the inside must be from Satan, got it.
Being honest with myself drove me away from God
Do you want to study the Bible with a JW to gain faith in God ?
It's exactly that, they're victims of the cult. Desperate and very needy people are fresh meat for spiritual predators.
>Living according to high moral standards makes you a cult
Did you just blow in from bizarreville ?
Yes, they prey on the emotionally and spiritually weak. All the jw.org propaganda videos are like that. A normal person can notice it right away, but they are targeting the few weak people out there so they can get their donation money.
The JWs just announced they’re going to double the size of their headquarters and make a big production studio just for this purpose. I wonder how many years that will take to build? Wait a second, I thought they said Armageddon and the end of the world is right around the corner and not to go to college or prepare for the future, what gives?
>The JWs just announced they’re going to double the size of their headquarters and make a big production studio
HAHA really? So much for the limited number of saved too. They're actively undermining their own chances of salvation by doing stuff like this.
They believe 144,000 go to heaven and the rest remain for eternity on paradise Earth where all animals are tame and vegan. Lions will eat grass and mosquitoes will drink tree sap instead of blood.
When the sun finally goes Red Giant and the Universe expands to heat death, I don’t know what they’ll do.
>When the sun finally goes Red Giant and the Universe expands to heat death
It will never happen
We already see it happening with our telescopes.
You know the constellation of Orion? There's a red star, called Betelgeuse. That's a red giant, dying as we speak.
Even the Bible says it will happen.
>2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and everything that is done on it will be disclosed.
There goes your Paradise Earth New World.
When used symbolically in the Bible, the term “heavens” often refers to ruling powers, which are elevated above their subjects. (Isa. 14:13, 14; Rev. 21:1, 2) “The heavens [that] will pass away” represent human rule over ungodly society. Their passing away with a loud “hissing noise”—or “a mighty roar,” according to another rendering—may indicate the swift annihilation of these heavens.
The “earth” represents the world of mankind alienated from God. Such a world existed in Noah’s day and, by divine decree, ended with the Flood. “By the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.” (2 Pet. 3:7) Whereas the Flood destroyed the ungodly all at one time, the coming destruction will occur in stages during “the great tribulation.” (Rev. 7:14) In the first phase of that tribulation, God will move the political rulers of this world to destroy “Babylon the Great,” thus showing his contempt for that religious harlot. (Rev. 17:5, 16; 18:8) Then, in the war of Armageddon, the final phase of the great tribulation, Jehovah himself will wipe out the rest of Satan’s world.—Rev. 16:14, 16; 19:19-21.
Agreed !
Why ? It's the best translation that exists in the modern languages
I will just pake one to refute it so what is the use ?
>Why ? It's the best translation that exists in the modern languages
It's literally completely different from 99% of translations in ways that is clearly only for JW. It's not even close to being the best unless you're a JW. The point is you literally can't prove or support JW doctrines through other translations that have been around for far longer than the NWT.
>It's literally completely different from 99% of translations
Because other translations are biased
Name one thing in the Bible that is false and I will leave JWs
>Name one thing in the Bible that is false
Why? That would be an attempt to discredit real Christianity. I only wish to discredit your cult.
Well I learned that today. That sure explains why they try to proselytize so hard.
>Yes, they prey on the emotionally and spiritually weak. All the jw.org propaganda videos are like that.
Other way around. Everything that JWs make is made to strengthen the faith of people in God.
> A normal person can notice it right away, but they are targeting the few weak people out there so they can get their donation money.
Not true. We don't have obligatory collections of money or tithings
every JW decides if, when and how much they want to contribute. Donations are VOLUNTARY and from the HEART !
This money, as well as the one gained from investments, are used to publish new Bibles in many languages to give freely to people, to finance court trials when our brothers and sisters are injustly persecuted like in Russia, to build new places of worship all over the world, to assist those who are victims of natural disasters, and more !
https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/
And it's been like this since the start, ANY organization would FAIL and be in DEFICIT with such a system
But we have SUCCEEDED because we are being overseen by GOD !
It is a modern day MIRACLE
>The JWs just announced they’re going to double the size of their headquarters and make a big production studio just for this purpose.
Yes ? That's a good thing, it will draw even more people to God. There is no possible way you can find a single fault in this project
> and not to go to college or prepare for the future, what gives?
???????? When has a JW ever said that ?
I’ve seen your exact copy-paste response before. You must have them in a Word document ready to go for any situation.
The Governing Body has been recently begging for donations and saying people who love Jehovah donate. So I guess if you don’t donate then you don’t love Jehovah, huh. Haha, see that subtle emotional manipulation tactic.
>I’ve seen your exact copy-paste response before. You must have them in a Word document ready to go for any situation.
It's in the LULZ archives, I copy pasted what I have already said before
>The Governing Body has been recently begging for donations and saying people who love Jehovah donate. So I guess if you don’t donate then you don’t love Jehovah, huh. Haha, see that subtle emotional manipulation tactic.
If there any reason why those who can donate don't donate ?
I will leave JWs if you can give me one reason
We proselytize to glorify God and to make known his name. (Hebrews 13:15) We also want to obey Christ Jesus, who commanded: “Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, . . . teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.”—Matthew 28:19, 20.
Moreover, we love our neighbor. (Matthew 22:39)
No we're not
Jehovah has power over the universe
That's not true at all.
>Jehovah has power over the universe
And? Betelgeuse being a dying red star is a fact.
>If there any reason why those who can donate don't donate ?
>I will leave JWs if you can give me one reason
Because your Governing Body keeps them uneducated Taco Bell workers. They need that money to survive, not give to a bunch of well-fed obese cult leaders that wear Rolexes and gold rings. They’re even guilt tripping kids into donating their lunch money.
You couldn’t leave if you wanted to.
>Because your Governing Body keeps them uneducated Taco Bell workers.
What does it mean ?
>They need that money to survive
Ok ? Jehovah takes care of each and every servant
You will never find a starving JW
>obese cult leaders that wear Rolexes and gold rings.
The rolex is a gift
Why does it make you angry ?
>They’re even guilt tripping kids into donating their lunch money.
They donate out of generosity. Dont' they teach generosity to children in atheist households ?
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Imagine mocking children because they do something nice for someone else
Shame on you. Morality should be mandatory in atheist households
Imagine trying to convince anyone that some holy roller nagger received a 20k gold Rolex as a "gift".
Thank God my family brought me up in real Christendom.
Imagine sending 65 year old abuelitas to sell magazines so your elders can continue to fund their legal defense cases against child rape accusations.
Speak to me, not the voices inside your head
Why do you defend a cult that embezzles money to buy expensive israeliteelry and keeps their followers uneducated?
That Rolex nagger makes you seethe, doesn’t he?
Decked in gold while preaching to you that Jesus said to give away all your possessions to the poor and to donate all your money and time to the ministry.
Not a good look for the JWs.
But...that's what the donations are for
Every congregation takes care of the needy
Why does the gidt make you angry ?
And why is the fact that some JWs are uneducated a problem ? The apostles were not educated yet accomplished great things
You have a materialistic worldview
We know it's very soon
Finally, I've been waiting for at least 50000 2 weeks or so...
>You will never find a starving JW
I laughed fucking hard at that. This has to be a troll or a bot, I’m sorry. Half my family members were poor JWs, they starved and struggled constantly.
In real life or only inside your imagination ?
Jehovah's Witnesses are the same church as 1st century Christians though
In real life, that’s how I and everyone on this board know you and your cult are full of shit. Just go away.
I actually want you to remain a Jehovah’s Witness, because when you’re old or before you die, you will realize everything you preached all your life didn’t come true, and it will be very painful for you. And I want you to suffer for being a deceiver.
Gee who should I believe
The son of God or an anonymous user throathing at the mouth about God ?
Keep believing in your lie, I want you to.
I guarantee you, I won't even reach 50 before Armaggedon starts
Two more decades, am I right. No, more like two dozen years more.
>Jehovah's Witnesses are the same church as 1st century Christians though
In real life or only inside your imagination ?
1st century christians followed the Bible
Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Bible
Therefore, they are the same
It isn't that hard
>1st century christians followed the Bible
Wrong.
>Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Bible
Couldn't be more wrong.
>You will never find a starving JW
All the JWs that ever knocked on my door were old spic beaners on welfare and young wagies living on ramen.
Why do you lie?
>No we're not
So we haven’t discovered the laws of thermodynamics, and haven’t discovered the Universe expanding and stars going supernova, and have no understanding of physics, astronomy or cosmology?
So to be a JW you have to deny all of reality, got it.
Why do you think Jehovah doesn't have he power to stop the sun from dissapearing ?
lmao i love the fact that we've collectively decided that jwanon is a woman. I remember him sending pics of himself trying to prove that he's a dude lol
It is a woman, just look at the handwriting in her cartoon drawings.
all those threads were already shit. I support anyone or anything that trolls the religion posters. Fuck you.
Explain how can Christianity be a cult if everything we believe is based on sound evidence
No part of christianity has sound evidence
Why ?
While he was one of Jehovah's Witnesses he worked without payment and only for room and board. But after he was kicked out for his prominence seeking, he made money and gained personal prestige by writing against the Witnesses. He had to go promote himself to those who were used to a clergy class to find people gullible enough to buy his books so he could make a profit off his ideas. I think I will trust someone without such a strong personal motive.
Why ?
JW is total heresy lmao. If they didn't have the NWT, they'd be gone overnight. That's why they won't do a public debate with any real Christian scholar, because they literally have nothing else to stand on to justify their made up doctrine.
> If they didn't have the NWT, they'd be gone overnight
The NWT was published in the 50s decades after we existed
All the more proof you get your bible from doctrine rather than doctrine from the bible
Masturbation isn't prohibited by JW doctrine. That's all you need to know it isn't a serious sect, let alone one based on the bible.
LET'S
FUCKING
GOOOOOOOO
Remember, always look at the bright side of the life
Does any other board accept posting from organised groups? Some religious folk are duty bound to share their thoughts. Why are they accepted here?
If this is truly a history and humanities board,why are 33% of topics on Jesus related stuff, when it represents 0.1%of the boards purpose?
>Does any other board accept posting from organised groups?
No, this shit goes from off-topic to trolling.
>Some religious folk are duty bound to share their thoughts. Why are they accepted here?
Either because: mods don't care enough to enforce the rules, or they do consider proselytization as religious discussion.
>If this is truly a history and humanities board,why are 33% of topics on Jesus related stuff, when it represents 0.1%of the boards purpose?
Most of the time it's people baiting each other, for what I can tell, encompassing proselytization.
The fact there's never been a mod statement answering what the community has been speaking about for ages =
[Place your answer here]
JWanon probably is the mod. That’s why she’s on here 24/7 and never gets banned.
Nah, the guy gets banned often. Sadly not as regularly as I'd personally like.
Supposedly he said that, but I don't care enough to dig it from the archives, plus the troll + autism combo gives me more hope than an actual cult victim wasting their time here.
Someone needs to make a simple site page with all JWanons points refuted, so everyone can easily debunk her without going on these long debates.
>And why is the fact that some JWs are uneducated a problem
We truly live in a society.
>still no milkers
Shit thread, Christianity is a lie and all of you are permanent hell residents
>Kingdom Hall
>Hell residents
Bros this can't be a coincidence...
Guys, I think JWanon is an AI bot trained on JW literature. That’s why it’s on here 24/7 and can talk in threads for sometimes 19 hours a day.
>it
Use her correct pronouns.
It's called NEETdom
This board need to be deleted, it's a fucking shithole
Why don't the Christian/JW posters petition for a religion board? Surely it's better to have debate and discussion in a designated place without distraction?
I didn't know threads bitching about specific posters was on-topic
There are threads bitching about the JW anon multiple times a week?