The Great Debate: Who Was the Better President?

https://strawpoll.com/polls/e6Z2eoMEXgN

  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    JFK got his fucking head blown off before he could do anymore damage, so probably him.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Am I the only one who thinks there might have been a bit of a conflict of interest when former CIA director Allen Dulles, who had been personally fired by JFK, was one of only 7 members of the Warren Commission?

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        LBJfag, who did you vote for?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Neither. Both were anti-nationalist retards who did monumental amounts of damage to the US while fostering a cult-like following in their respective parties on a scale not seen since the “j*ffersonians”

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          He voted multiple times for JFK like he always does

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >LBJfag voting for the guy who fucked over LBJ the hardest
            Retard alert

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't get more zogged than Reagan.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    JFK got us stuck in a massive murderous war, bungled most foreign missions, and began the road to civil rights anarchy. Reagan's foreign policy was relatively peaceful and his coup in Grenada was arguably the smoothest in our history, and he at least slowed the progression of civil rights.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What did Kennedy even do as president? Fund NASA? I'm guessing any president would've at the time though. Pigbay, Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam? Lay with ladies, have back problems. I dunno doesn't seem so impressive. Would it be fair to say he started the Vietnam War, caused the Cuban Missile Crisis by not removing the missiles from Turkey (Eisenhower put them there right?). If yes to both or even one then I'd say he's pretty terrible.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If yes to both or even one then I'd say he's pretty terrible.
      You would be correct

      Am I the only one who thinks there might have been a bit of a conflict of interest when former CIA director Allen Dulles, who had been personally fired by JFK, was one of only 7 members of the Warren Commission?

      There’s no connection between Dulles being fired and Kennedy’s murder you schizo. Do you have any tangible evidence linking the two?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Glow harder

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >CIA not only monitors the autists on LULZ, but posts here

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Glow harder

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    JFK almost single-handedly stopped the Cuban Missile Crisis from spiraling into a nuclear war (even Bobby was calling for airstrikes at one point lmao), but also put America on the road to disaster in Vietnam.

    Had Reagan been President in 1962, he would have almost certainly caused a nuclear war. But at the same time, he would likely have never allowed such a crisis to happen in the first place (i.e. committing US ground forces to a full-scale invasion of Cuba during Bay of Pigs instead of half-assing it with some exiles armed with WWII surplus). He also ensured that the Soviet Union would march to defeat in Afghanistan, causing its ultimate collapse, by supporting the Mujahideen, which is a good thing.

    >inb4 6 million replies kvetching about muh blowback muh 9/11

    The Soviets were waging a literal genocide in Afghanistan and by the time the occupation ended had exterminated over 2 million Afghans (out of a population of 13 million). Surely we can cut Reagan some slack for for some shit that Pakistani and Saudi-backed Mujahideen (not even American-backed ones) pulled over a decade after he left office.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >JFK almost single-handedly stopped the Cuban Missile Crisis from spiraling into a nuclear war

      He also nearly started WWIII multiple times because of his incompetence (Berlin for example) and the Cuban Crisis is a direct result of his own actions.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Soviets were waging a literal genocide
      No.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Important point: JFK was the last Democrat Reagan voted for prior to switching parties and he was quite open about having gotten his idea of tax cuts from him.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      JFK proposed tax cuts, but couldn't get them passed because he thought deficit spending would strengthen economy like a borderline socialist

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know that. LBJ actually passed them. The top income tax rate was dropped from 90% down to 66% and then Reagan cut it to 33%.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy looks like the retard who knows nothing about socialism is back

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Point is you can't claim jfk passed tax cuts to promote deficit spending when the only reason it got passed was because LBJ used JFK like a martyr

      Federal deficit spending on purpose is socialism

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he doesn’t know he’s replying to LBJfag
    Honk honk, bitch

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh I know. Lbjfag is probably half the posts in this thread. The best way to post in his threads is to complete ignore him and treat him like a child because that's what he is

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he still doesn’t know

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Know what? I know you're a petulant mentally ill child. Are you claiming otherwise?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Seething

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              cope retard

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope about what, you homosexual? lmfao

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >JFK
    >completely failed his domestic and foreign agendas
    >remembered as "b-b-but he TOTALLY would have gotten them done, and would have done a 180 on all of his shitty policies he actually did get through like Vietnam if he wasn't killed!"
    >Reagan
    >got most of his domestic agenda fulfilled
    >foreign policy objectives fulfilled

    It's not even close from a point of view of who did more of what they said they would.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    JFK helped cause Stagflation.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      My boy's wicket smaht!

      You just know Schlesinger tried to blow him at least once

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    My boy's wicket smaht!

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Federal deficit spending on purpose is socialism

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