Alright gents, with Russia about to be left more vulnerable than they have been in decades by near complete military stockpile depletion in Ukraine following decades of corruption, and China approaching the probable apex of their strength militarily before their inevitable economic capitulation, I figure that they'll be eyeing an expansion short term into the eastern portion of Russia.
Personally, I think Taiwan is a gigantic red herring, and they are secretly more interested in plundering Siberia for its abundant, virgin natural resources, both now and in the near future as global warming takes hold.
Obviously the most significant deterrent Russia can muster is nuclear.
I'm sure they've got a couple remaining in inventory that are viable, the question is where they can be detonated in order to prevent an invasion entirely without irradiating the western portion of Canada and Alaska with atmospheric fallout, and thus forcing America and Canada to take action.
By this, I mean that it is obvious that Russia could deploy nukes on their southern border, but given China's extensive number of small ocean going craft, they could simply circle around to the east and make landing north of Vladivostok (Chinese maps recently changed the name of the city to be "Sea Cucumber Bay", by the way) with almost zero resistance owing to it's vast emptiness.
The fallout generated by nuking these regions would almost certainly be considered an act of war by the US and Canada.
What can Russia do militarily to repulse a true meat wave invasion by China?
Is there any way for them to prevent this without using nukes and truly awakening the sleeping giant?
Would the US invade Eastern Russia preemptively to prevent China from building up offensive capacity 90 miles from Alaska's shores?
Am I just a schizophrenic?
Let me know your thoughts.
Russhitia is hilariously empty and hollow. That 14 mil in Siberia pointed up in your map almost exclusively exist as a long, thin line from the south urals to Vladivostok. Following the lifeline keeping it all together, the railway. Up north is Alaska tier empty bear country with a few natives tribes here and there.
Whoever controls the railway controls Siberia
>claims the west is obsessed with trans
>3 lines out of 4 are openly trans (doubts on the baikal-amur)
>doubts on the baikal-amur
It's too busy mainlining krokodil to be concerned with things like gender.
>trannysistria meme encalve
>their leading prophet is obsessed with big, throbbing, hato mulatto cocks penetrating everything in sight
>rampant homosexuality in all elements of their society
gods, everything is turbo projection with these steppe aliens
NOT DUGINISTS! AHHHHHHHHHH! I'M GOOING INSANE!
>Up north is Alaska tier empty bear country with a few natives tribes here and there.
China looking at Siberia:
So...how would anyone know if the Chinese just went ahead and started moving people in there?
Has anyone checked lately?
They could have already colonised it, but because it's far away from the railway, no one noticed.
They already have, it was one of the emerging issues Russia faced in 2010s, maybe even 2000s.
I don't think China will declare actual open warfare, just an economic takeover of the weaken Russian Carbon export industry and soft colonization of Russian border regions through immigration and small local businesses.
What is it with trannies and these cutesy names? You can always spot them by their twisting terminology in that faggy manner.
>The forthcoming Chinese invasion of Eastern Russia
The reality is that most of geopolitics is just high school cliques with countries.
China can't invade Russia because it would be socially awkward to do so.
They already said they're totally allying with Russia and what not...
>They already said they're totally allying with Russia and what not...
Xi hasn't forgotten Putin's honey tasting troll.
The humiliation was bitter, but left a sweet taste.
Quick run down?
Pretty good overview here:
Long story short, Xi is commonly compared to Pooh Bear, so much so that Pooh is banned on some web platforms in China, because he FUCKING HATES the comparison.
So Putin brought him honey during an economic meeting in Vladivostok as a gift, because he thought it was a funny joke.
Xi probably doesn't think it was a funny joke.
I doubt he'd take it to the extreme of letting it influence geopolitical decisions but it's pretty funny how irritated he is by it.
and thus the groundwork for the second sino-rus war was layed, marking the end of the russian stranglehold over the siberian colonial oblasts
>Pooh is banned on some web platforms in China
Ignorant retard. "Our Wennie Bear" is considered a term of endearment. Western ignorance never ceases to amaze me
Call him that on wechat and post screen shot.
Go on Anon. Post picrel on Weibo. What's the worse that could happen?
>video no longer available
welp, so the evidence no longer exist?
Shame the vid got nuked for whatever reason, but you're not missing much.
I remember it pretty clearly, it's basically Putin with a huge shit eating grin on his face handing Xi a jar of honey, and Xi looking at Putin with a fake as hell smile with his teeth together and a look on his face that just said "Really, you motherfucker?"
The Germans said the same thing in 1939 so
If china actually wanted to invade they would just send 100 million immigrants to the region over time and have them vote to become part of china
This, long term demographic and economic absorption is the ticket. Then if necessary support an insurgency
The same "trick" Russia did in Donbabwe/Luganda. If the Chinese did that, the Russians will still bellyache and bitch, tho....because doing it to them is "unfair"!
>implying votes get counted in Russia
Aw, you almost had me read the whole thing
>China loses one million men
>Russia loses one million men
>No territorial changes of any kind
>Mass famines throughout china
>Incalculable economic decline throughout russia
>Glorious Chang strategic tactical regional theoretical medical poetical victory
>sold all that to China as exclusive economic zone
Why pay when you can just... take it?
>Why pay when you can just... take it?
And spend billions on administration instead letting Russia do it. Are you stupid ?
>billions i say, BILLIONS
>14 mil pop
>more then 120 mil straight across the line
u are retard
>spend billions on administration instead letting Russia do it.
What happens when you spend billions and a decade developing the region for your needs (which you will need to do, obviously Russia is not doing it on your behalf because any funds that could go to that will be appropriated by one oligarch or another), and then Russia breaks contracts or renegotiates, and retains ultimate control and relevancy?
>why pay for something when you can just take it by force and risk global consequences?
>risk global consequences
Kind of the point of this thread, what are the realistic consequences?
Nobody has Russia's back anymore in that potential conflict, especially not if it means going up against China.
and vatniks can make up any law they want and cut you bugmen out the minute you are not useful anymore. Nobody but the state owns shit in Russia. You should know that chingchong. Seeing as you can never own any hard property in china, just "lease" it for 80 years from the state.
how hard does that dude sleep?
Tofu Dreg Projects are absolutely hilarious as long as they aren't happening to you.
The idea of modern China invading anyone, even a land neighbor, is laughable. Once you realize the PLA literally never releases training videos ONLY propaganda you understand that it’s all fakery and they’re as far from ready to fight as I am from the moon. Even Russia occasionally put out training videos.
>they’re as far from ready to fight as I am from the moon
They don't really need to be able to fight.
Who will oppose them? The millions currently occupying Ukraine?
They've got nukes left and that's about it.
Just send waves of farmers over the border with hoes and fenceposts and enough alcohol to pacify the locals and you're pretty much set.
cope gwailo. When we were at our weakest and they at their strongest they could only barely keep us out of siberia. Now we are the strongest and they the weakest. As comrade Sun Tzu said, sit by the river long enough to see the corpse of your enemy float by
It has just occurred to me that for every Chinese soldier who dies, you've also killed off their parents too, as they were relying on their child to take care of them in their old age because China has no welfare state that is able to stop the elderly from starving to death within a month of being retired from the work place.
>people forgetting that China is the only country that had the balls to invade Russia since WW2
That's barely a skirmish.
>Soviet sources: 800 killed
Why do Russians lie so much?
>Supported by India
>implying China wouldn't have DPRK do the dirty work.
The PLA loses fist-fights….to pajeets. I literally don’t know what else to tell the /k/.
You are Schizo, China sees the US and Russia sending resources to Ukraine that aren't going to Asia. Every missile fired at Kiev or Kherson is one that doesn't go to Taiwan or Delhi. Why would they turn their two biggest competitors eyes back to Asia? If anything they would make a move for the much richer Taiwan which is actually full of Chinese then a shitty frozen tundra, which may prompt US response but at least wouldn't provoke joint US-RUS response.
>much richer Taiwan
Tiny island, only resource is tech which will require constant upkeep and development to maintain an edge of a few years, if they can manage to keep tech out of Chinese spy hands
>Expanse of tundra nearly the size of China, populated by only 14m people, with potentially massive, unmolested, pollution free natural resources
90% of groundwater in China is unfit for direct human contact, 60-70% is unfit for industrial use.
That's per their ministry of resources.
Invading, occupying, and developing/farming the region would also serve to keep their massive population busy for generations once production of physical goods is outsourced to Africa and/or replaced by automation.
Their competitors eyes are already on China anon, why do you think there were so many tariffs put up to stop China dumping steel and similar. They might have benefitted from this war by testing out some new kit, but realistically this entire war has allowed the west to be effectively part of yet another conflict on which to test it's new strategies, tactics, training, communications, jamming, weapons on the battlefield and gain valuable PMCs for future wars.
China is likely feeling vulnerable economically, and is likely worried about becoming the next USSR collapse 2.0 if the west decides business is no longer worth it.
Instead they will likely maintains a fragile coexistence while penetrating into SEA and Africa, which realistically benefits them in the end.
>The fallout generated by nuking these regions would almost certainly be considered an act of war by the US and Canada.
This is absolutely retarded. How fucking dumb can you be?
>plundering Siberia for its abundant, virgin natural resources
They don't need to invade to do that. Russians are already mining them and shipping it south to China, why would they bother to invade?
>they renamed Vladisvostok on maps
They used a localized name. English maps don't call China" Zhōnghuá" but that doesn't mean that their have designs to invade.
>Am I just a schizophrenic?
No, just a garden variety fuckwit.
>This is absolutely retarded. How fucking dumb can you be?
When the US was testing bombs in Nevada measurable radioactive material was falling in the snow in NYC.
The Jetstream exists, anon.
Radioactive material from blasts in Eastern or South Eastern Russia could easily transit the Pacific and be deposited in US and Canadian territory.
>Russians are already mining them and shipping it south to China, why would they bother to invade?
1. Resources beyond mining - wood, water, produce, livestock, all without the taint of Chinese pollution.
2. Strategic bases re: USA.
3. Claims to traditionally Russian waters for fishing, crabbing, etc.
4. Occupying your massive population once manufacturing is not viable due to relocation and automation leaving them jobless and angry at the government.
That doesn't mean it's going to be taken as a deliberate attack you fucking mong. Jesus Christ you are stupid.
>That doesn't mean it's going to be taken as a deliberate attack you fucking mong.
God you unfathomably dense mouth breather, it DOESN'T MATTER if it is deliberate or not.
If nuclear debris rains down on US and CA territory as a result of military actions, there ABSOLUTELY MUST be a military response.
How in the absolute fuck has seventy years of atomic policy slipped by your pancake brain without being glimpsed and at bare minimum comprehended at surface level?
China would rather expand their EEZ's or take over Taiwan than try conquering a bunch of hostile useless tundra. Russia needs China more than China needs them, so they'll happily trade whatever they need from Siberia. Why ruin all that with war? Do you even realize how retarded that would be when China is trying to out-compete the USA as a superpower? If Russia falls apart after Chinese tried to their best to keep them together only then they'd consider annexations but otherwise they're content with the long game.
China has millions of surplus young males and is likely to start economically backsliding. They'll want a win that rallies the country and boosts pride, and they'll need to keep a lot of bitter young men busy. So they have a lot of internal incentive for war, that really can't be overlooked. If I am China and I need to pick an easy win fight, Russia is looking pretty juicy to me.
You have absolutely no clue what Siberia contains do you? Here is a hint: one of the biggest drinkable fresh water lakes in the world. Something chingchongs are in dire need of as they are polluting their own overpopulated clay to the point of becoming uninhabitable
Or what, the giga brained sneaky changs are going to also buy the lake empty and vatniks are going to give them everything they want and more?
This. China has completely fucked up their freshwater.
I think this is more likely than we might give credit. Opee's reasoning is poor but I think it's something china would actually consider.
Mainly because of thier demographic and economic prospects and oceanic trade routes and access.
why would china invade russia when they can colonize space? imagine spending trillions on a war when the moon is ripe for the picking.
changs cant innovate. They can only copy. Only way they ever get to industrialized space is if the burgers brake the way and they manage to steal the blueprints for the rockets
They're already preparing to test their reusable Falcon 9 copy
The worst part is they can't even faithfully copy.
When the Japanese first opened to the West, they made genuine efforts to import and develop their technical competency, and kept at it until they could produce technologically advanced goods at or near parity with the West.
The Chinese are like the cargo cultists of the Pacific Islands. They were never able to truly faithfully coy technology because their brains were always too stunted by either communism, confucianism, or Han homosexualology to comprehend human concepts.
They could only ever ape the development of human races, their witchdoctors bashing rocks together while telling the mush-brained masses how their rock powder paintings have surpassed everyone else.
Once in a while, they will scrounge together enough foreign currency to important real technology made by real humans, solder it all together in a crude plastic shell as best as their slave minds can, and declare to the world they can now make smartphones, planes, and high speed railcars despite the solder connecting the German component to the Japanese component being the closest thing there is to a Chinese technological innovation under hood.
Picrel: Typical front page headlines on Chinese social media - "Beijing University's hand-crafted 0.85nm chip, outperforms Intel by 50 times, no EUV needed, America's tech war has become a joke".
Because even fucking Siberia is infinitely more habitable than any other rock in the Solar system.
>lack of oxygen
>more isolated than anything on earth by several magnitudes
Space is in another ballpark entirely than anything on earth. It would be significantly easier to colonize either the bottom of the ocean or the Antarctic than anything outside earth.
>space requires getting out of the gravity well and investing billions of dollars in rocket fuel manufacturing industry
>Siberia just requires a truck
>hohol hopes and dreams in another offtopic shit thread
It's all so tiresome...
Why worry about something that will never happen?
There's like zero point since Xi can turn turn Russia in to Chinese Canada, invading would just lead to him getting nuked and losing everything. We would soak a little fallout to prevent China from being that close to Canada and Alaska too, Russia and China btfoing each other is like early Christmas for Washington even if the economy would be devastated for a decade. Russia has 5k warheads, if half of them work, that's 2.5k to Xi's ~300.
>as global warming takes hold.
That's the part that upsets you?
That's the one thing that sticks out to you as improbable?
As Russia has a hard time with their invasion because the ground never froze?
You fucking slack jawed mouth breathing homosexual, that's the one thing in the whole diatribe OP posted that you can't wrap your hookworm addled brain around?
You don't understand, it was cold in Texas last month so climate change don't real.
how retarded are you homosexual? you believe any shit you read? sea levels haven't risen jackshit you brainless vaxxie homosexual
>Anon doesn't like science cause big words and thinking make brain wrinkly.
>Anon want smooth brain like cheese lump in tube sock.
Unless the Russian state collapses completely I don't see China moving troops into Siberia. More likely in my opinion is they use Russia's need for places to sell their stuff to as leverage to create more and more economic privileges in the area, eventually moving to political benefits as well, until eventually it's Chinese in all but name.
WTF, A CHINESE INVASION WILL FLY OVER MY HOUSE (IN TWO MORE WEEKS)
You're sure it wasn't israelitelenskys dick that flew into your mouth?
>near complete military stockpile depletion
Stopped reading there. When are you shills going to get acquainted with Reality?