>the forms are necessary and make sense because... THEY JUST ARE AND DO, OKAY????????
>the forms are necessary and make sense because...
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Yes. Begone, hylic
>sour grapes
Do you love your parents? Why? What exactly is a ‘parent’?
>she doesn't know that meaning is use
Retard.
It's really simple.
We are able to know about things that have never existed, never will exist and have never been observed. for example equal lengths.
How is this kind of knowledge possible?
Plato's solution (in a very general way) is that those things are mind independent, i.e. not figments of our brains but things that actually exist just like a rock exists.
This idea is still very popular to this day even in physics and mathematics.
Does that mean my waifu with a femine penis actually exists?
Pato cucks btfo again
She does in your mind. It's not actually possible to imagine everything (a square that's also a triangle is impossible to imagine, it cannot exist). So your dick waifu has something over impossible ideas.
Yeah but what does this actually prove?
>somethings are possible and some aren't and I can imagine stuff that is
Just stating the obvious, really.
The general form of a waifu/ female exists to Plato. The notion of a female entity is itself something that exists as an object on another plane. YOUR specific waifu is just made up nonsense though.
cope
That is actual Platonic discourse. Plato never said "anything you want to be real is real" like he's a genie or something.
Seethe. Plato was team girl cock waifu
>YOUR specific waifu is just made up nonsense though.
The forms are an absurdly primitive solution to this problem, it's actually childish
Plato's genera for things is in the intellect is: being, motion, stability, difference and identity. The Intellect is one, but since the Intellect thinks, and thinking includes grasping something the thinker is doesn't possess, it is also "one-many", meaning it has multiplicity while still being unified. A form in the Intellect is like the chair before it is made by the builder, only we must understand that this analogy is limited, since it is trying to explain the intelligible world in sensible world terms.
More importantly. it ties into his notion of the soul because if the soul is keen to everything in the entirety of existence due to being part of The One before being sent to your body then you must only recollect what you inquire. It's actually kind of interesting to think about.
Everything including the soul is The One and we are on the transient plane so to recollect something we must only think back to when everything was open to us.
Sounds like baseless nonsense frfr.
The idea of the soul is arguable but if the soul is real then it can be inferred that at one point all of the universes secrets were open knowledge to you and you just forgot them.
Plato wrote satires, don't take him too seriously.
Imagine a table, now make a table.
The table you make will not be the table you envisioned.
The table you envisioned is the prime form, THE table. A perfect table.
That’s just my minds conception of a table. It’s not from a literal realm outside my head lmao
Lol it is pretty apparent when you think on it that ideas are caused by our encounter with objects, they do not precede and certainly do not cause objects. That would be silly.
Arguing over stupid nonsense.
ᛝ The Four Noble Truths ᛝ
1. Suffering is inseparable from existence.
2. The root cause of suffering is craving.
3. Suffering can be ended by ending craving.
4. There is a path to ending craving and suffering.
ᚼ archive.org/details/WhatTheBuddhaTaught_201606
ᚼ buddhanet.net/audio-lectures.htm
Refuted by Plato. Read Hipparchus. If something is good then it is justified to crave it.
>If something is good then it is justified to crave it.
pure filth
>2. The root cause of suffering is craving.
>4. There is a path to ending craving and suffering.
The Buddha was very sad and life denying.
You realize every single philosophy and worldview has axioms of some kind?
I mean, it makes discussing questions of philosophy simple. Plato's forms or essences aren't a real thing, he's not saying there's a mystical "roundness" ghost somewhere, but it is helpful to understand when we speak, we speak in ideas and concepts that may not always 100% of the time, be manifest physically
You missed the point, I doubt you'll be able to comprehend any other philosopher if you can't even understand Plato removing semantics games from Socratic method
No, Plato was in fact saying the Forms were a real thing.
And not just in the sense that they're just as real as any other thought, idea, or thing that you can think of. That they objectively exist and already pre-existed.
To Plato, every thought and idea is an eternal and concrete form and what we see in front of us is a weaker, transient copy of it.
Correct,
is a brainlet who's only encounter with Plato has been in one Undergrad. philosophy 101 course he took years ago.