The "fires of hell" are real but metaphorical. How can something without a physical body burn? Its something else.
The "fires of hell" are real but metaphorical. How can something without a physical body burn?
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I don't think being tortured for all eternity sounds right.
I think it's more like wandering in a dark cave for the rest of your existence with other people.
Well mini dallee seems to portray it that way
And like prison you'd be stuck with the worst kind of people wandering a cave for all eternity
it literally just copied gustav dore's illustrations...
Can you have sex with the other people?
I think so
Well I should say thought if you feel like crap no matter what well sex would do no good. People might have sex to assert themselves though.
The bible doesn't go on detail describing hell. Well it says the gnashing of teeth whatever that means, the lake of fire where the worm doesn't die...
Dante described hell but Dante wasn't a saint well neither am I...
You *must* have sex with the other people, but only with unconvincing trannies.
>being tortured for all eternity
It blows my mind how people can believe a god worth worshipping would do this. It's obviously satanic. I think they get so carried away with the power and punishment side of their faith, they lose sight of basic morality. Either that or they're just demonically evil.
>The "fires of hell" are real but metaphorical. How can something without a physical body burn? Its something else.
IIRC Christians believe you have a physical body in the afterlife. Or at least for heaven. Not sure about hell.
Im a christian(OP) and I dont believe there are actual fires in hell. Youre suffering yes, but not actually burning.
We all get a body after the last judgement. Glorious body reflecting the sanctity adquired during life. Hellbound people will look like gollums and worse.
Well I'm assuming the cave would be really hot that's for sure.
Well tormented is not the same as torture right?
Yes, the original Christian conception of the afterlife is actually very physical. Ancient israeli culture did not conceive of a "soul" distinct from the physical body, these are later innovations, possibly Gnostic remnants. At the end of time, your body is restored, and you are sent to one of the two eternal afterlifes to either be burned and otherwise tortured forever or to do whatever in Heaven.
No torment is feeling bad torture is expiriencing physical pain.
This is not distinct at all, especially not in the original languages.
how did ancient peoppe know there is a fire under land? i'm thinking of volcanoes but there weren't any in middle east where abrahamic religions orginate
Anything can happen in a dream. So I don't see why anything can't also happen in Hell.
Dreams establish if you divorce mind from the mundane material world's external input that pretty much anything goes.
Here's another one.
Well I typed hell and it was a bunch of fire too.
Well to me God casting people into a hot cave and having people feel like crap and wander for all eternity makes more sense than demons poking at your ass with a pitchfork.
Oh and the devil would want to make sure you worship him. Pride was his greatest sin. Well you can't worship someone if you're just being tortured all the time.
I tried to do it on diffusion.
according to catholic doctrine the fires of hell are real and literal and they will consume your body indefinitely, if you don't believe this you're a heretic
now, any of this makes sense? of course not, everything in the above sentence is nonsense, they are fruit of literalistic interpretations of various symbolism and metaphysical doctrines not meant for the 'theologian' but for someone with the right tools and knowledge.
there's no independent soul apart from this body and mind (when you're dead, bye, because the mind can't live without the body as it's support, just like the story of the blind and the cripple)
hell is here right now, just look at a junkie or a schizo or even your own life, they're in hell, an endless cycle
Basically I'm a weird schizo druggie so my interpretation of Hell, Heaven, and Earth is that consciousness is a series of DMT trips at the end of life. Dying in a bad state, such as suicide, or with sins upon your mind, will end in you being reborn in a worse position. "Worst" case scenario is that you go to Hell, but that's moreso a temporary (But feels eternal) place where you cleanse yourself of your sins through ironically tormenting yourself - Purgatio Ex Ignis. Then, when you escape that DMT trip hell, you enter life with a neutral state of mind, allowing you to start fresh. Heaven is the opposite, and allows you to reflect on all the good you've done, so you can be reborn with greater insight into life.
>For the damned, the fires of hell are vastly preferable to entering the infinitely intense blazing furnace that is the Godhead. Hell's pangs are for them far preferable to the intolerable agony (as they see it) of subordinating their entire selves to the infinite furnace that is God. The root disorder in the damned is that they choose themselves as the centre of creation rather than the One Who Is. No-one is in Hell against their will. Those who choose Hell find it infinitely preferable to the surrender of self that is necessary in order to behold God face to face.