The atheist LARP that God's existence has not been proven or God's existence is known by man has to be most unhinged thing ever in this age.
The atheist LARP that God's existence has not been proven or God's existence is known by man has to be most unhinged thing ever in this age.
I don’t believe in mythology or deities. Sorry, if you have proof present it but I won’t hold my breath,
I don't believe that you are sorry. Prove it.
Here's a part two series argument proving the existence of God.
Choice Maker:
The impossibility of following atheism to its logical conclusion.
Either the universe came from nothing or it is eternal, always existed in some form.
The former is immediately discarded as an impossibility.
If the beginning of the universe happened just because it could, or because it had to, it would have happened before it did, a second earlier for instance.
As it had an infinity of before where all potential of random chance or function had been maxed out.
Because there is no such thing as not enough time for the event to happen yet with an infinite past.
But it's impossible for something to happen before it did, or without a before it did.
>What if the universe is in an cyclical eternal loop without a beginning?
It's impossible to get anywhere without a starting point, a beginning.
Progress without a beginning is impossible. Progress which is the phenomenon of an event or situation leading to another.
>What about God's beginning? Special pleading.
>God can't have an infinite past cause he too would have had to create the universe before he did.
Not only does that presupposes he is undergoing a progression of some kind (is he aging?) but also that he solely had to operate by random chance or function.
We don't know the workings of God. Possible that its by choice which is under binding by a being who is eternal, aka God.
So a universe where all events are determined as they are a byproduct of random chance or function with an infinite past leads to the aforementioned paradox of the order of events in it.
These two impossibilities can be avoided if the universe had a finite past which is only possible with God.
So there is God, a possibility where the contrary, no God, is impossible.
By the law of excluded middle, the universe is created by God.
>The former is immediately discarded as an impossibility.
Why?
They just say "Infinite regression is impossible because everything needs a first cause", and then spout an analogy about infinite train cars not moving without an engine
Atheists can't read.
You are wrong
You made a typo, you meant to type "religious people" but accidentally typed "atheists".
Not him but the Big Bang is a scientific theory, yes. And no you don't have to believe in God in order to believe that the Big Bang theory is probably correct or largely correct, of course.
>Not him but the Big Bang is a scientific GODry, yes. And no you don't have to believe in GOD in order to believe that the Big Bang GODry is probably correct or largely correct, of course
Oh. I get it. You don't know what the word GOD means. Go read the new testament in greek.
Why would I read your nonsense fairy tales ever? Only people who are thick would waste their time like that. Like you.
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Here's the actual etymology for anyone interested: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/theory.
>wikiGOD
They've read the Bible, unlike you. That's how they became atheists.
>We don't know the workings of God.
There it is. Just insinuate some magical bullshit that doesn't even abide by logic and "explain" LITERALLY ANYTHING.
Arguments don't prove anything.
Show me the experimental data.
That's just an argument by pigheadedness.
It doesn't disprove anything.
Give me a refutation, give me something.
Where did god come from?
Loaded question, you would first have to prove your underlying presupposition that God has to come from like the universe.
Part two:
>Why is X impossible? Prove it.
Because it is proven by the non-existence of a possibility for X.
Same way a possibility to undo the past does not exist, so it's impossible to undo the past.
>You're saying that it's impossible because it's not possible.
Saying "it's not possible" already presupposes the existence of said possibility.
That is to say, besides the self-refuting possibilities of the beginning of the universe being by random chance or function, the only other possibility which exist is by God.
>No evidence/proof. Demonstrate.
The beginning of the universe is the evidence/proof of God, demonstrated by the universe beginning to exist.
>What if the universe "began to exist" by means of quantum mechanics?
That would just be the universe changing form from one to another, so it's just begging the question.
Because it still has an infinite past which is solely governed by random chance or function.
>The universe couldn't have existed before it did, since there was no time.
Irrelevant as the argument doesn't state that the universe had to exist before it existed but that the beginning of the universe should happen before it did if it had an infinite past without God.
>What if there was no "before" the beginning of the universe since there was no time?
There is no such things as a time before time or an event without a before it happened, nonsensical.
Time is a feature of the universe and the universe is a feature of time. One can't exist without the other.
>What if the universe is uncaused?
Again, without God, the beginning of the universe (which is absolute) could still only be by the self-refuting possibilities which is either random chance or function.
>I don't know whether God exists or not.
That assumes the existence of the possibility that God does not exist.
>Therefore a schizophrenic israeli carpenter born from an illegitimate affair created the universe alongside himself and a pidgeon
To the atheist little princesses, it doesn't matter whether if you are unconvinced or unsatisfied with the proof.
Your opinions mean jack squat. The existence of God is a matter of fact. Deal with it.
>The existence of God is a matter of fact. Deal with it.
What about the existence of israelite zombies?
Facts usually have proof.
Lol
Revelation 7:4
"And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel."
OP is a israelite dick sucker.
>nothing exists
Why do creationists always start off with this like it's any sort of factual statement held by anyone serious. Everything existed and all space existed, it was just confined into an immensely small point.
>Everything existed and all space existed, it was just confined into an immensely small point.
No it didn't there was neither matter nor time nor space
>we know this because uhhh some stars are colored red
this is literally the atheist argument. they really are that stupid folks!
>this is literally the atheist argument. they really are that stupid folks!
Oh that's right!
Suck the dick out your imaginary sky daddy instead that is based on no evidence what so ever?
Instead of a theory informed by cutting edge astronomy?
>theory
I thought you were an Atheist. Why are you using this word? Do you believe in God all of the sudden?
>Doppler effect is made up!
You literally hear it occur every time an ambulance drives by you retard.
>Nothing exists
>BANG!
>autistic semitic sky-demon now exists
>creates world just to seethe about people mixing fabrics and getting poopdick
And kill kids.
God might be real, but there isn't a single religion out there, or any religion that existed once upon a time that describes God acurately.
It's all man made bullshit. FACTS!
Show me the proof that Jesus was born on December 25th.
Show me the proof that God told to muslims to travel to Mecca and walk around a stone
>The universe has existed forever
>A sentient being has lived forever and he decided to make the earth one day
One of these is not like the other
1. Evolution is true
2. Planets did form by gravity pulling matter together
3. That matter was formed in stars through nuclear fusion
4. The Big Bang probably happened because there's lots of evidence for it
5. Your image's assertion that "nothing exists" before the Big Bang is not known. The fact is that we don't know what happened that long ago, and we need to do more science to figure it out. It's like not knowing where a shipwreck is. You have to do research if you want to know the answer.
>religious larpers go on about how something can't come from nothing followed by doing a complete 180 when asked were their diety came from
Argument from incredulity. Familiarize yourself with basic logical fallacies.
Basically God isn't real for the same reason there is no teapot orbiting between earth and Jupiter and I don't have an invisible dragon in my garage.
Fundamentally all our beliefs are founded on things which can't be proven, but some beliefs "appear" to have better consistency and ability to make accurate predictions and that's the foundation of rationality or the rationalist. Within this framework of "rationalism" you just don't have any good reason to believe in God especially not the Christian one that would be absurd.
>then god created the universe from nothing
The existence of a creator doesn't validate any earthly religion
>God's existence has to be demonstrated using persuasive logical arguments before you can believe, all those Christians who never heard them were stupid!
Yes OP I do agree that reason demonstrates the existence of God but it's really just an exercise for the pleasure of those who already believe, atheists will *never* accept them even if they can't refute the arguments because they're axiomatically prejudiced against theism.