>plus tip
I feel like they’re just making up prices at this point. $130 to mount/balance four tires without TPMS seems a bit excessive.
>plus tip
I feel like they’re just making up prices at this point. $130 to mount/balance four tires without TPMS seems a bit excessive.
So do it yourself, you can get basic tools off amazon for a few hundred dollars.
>TPMS
might as well have armed guards drive you around in an armored van with your mommy and your teddy bear and your pacifier if you're so scared, LITTLE BABY
2 tire spoons - $15
manual tire machine - $60
bubble balancer - $100
bead breaker - $150
bead seater - $150
~$500 with tax
Don’t forget twenty five bucks a pop to take your old ones to the dump site. +100. Road hazard is free plus materials and cost of tire, when diy.
What kind of shit hole do you live in where weekly trash pickup won't take tires? Before I went halfzies for a tire machine and balancer I would out israelite the disposal fee by taking home the old tires and leave them next to the trash bins for trash pickup later. I think my area will take 8 tires a week.
>2 tire spoons - $15
>manual tire machine - $60
>bubble balancer - $100
>bead breaker - $150
>bead seater - $150
>~$500 with tax
are you routinely changing 22.5 truck tires or something? for most passenger car tires, 2 spoons and a tire hammer is plenty. then just pay $7 for a dynamic computer balance.
perhaps but if i wrote that i'd have been accused of expecting the unreasonable on nuLULZ where people don't even change their own oil
i listed pretty much all the tools you reasonably need to make it pretty much pain-free and fool-proof
yes, if you want to, you can drive another car's wheel over your tire to break the bead or any other method you can dream up, but i'd rather use a bead breaker and be done
All cheap manual tire machines have a beat breaker included and it works just fine.
You can seat a bead without a special tool, just pull the valve core and use a ratchet strap to squeeze the tire if bouncing doesn't work.
Don't bitch about doing the work if you don't want to pay someone else to do it.
>2 tire spoons - $15
>manual tire machine - $60
>bubble balancer - $100
>bead breaker - $150
>bead seater - $150
>~$500 with tax
LOL, this shit you tards post is hilarious sometimes. I swap my tires 2x a year and the only tools I use are a jack, a couple pry bars, a $2 bubble level and some dish soap. you can easily break the bead by lowering the rotor onto the tire rim (a bit of soapy water helps it slide off). you can even seat a bead with a bike pump if the seal is good, you can stretch out the rim with spacers beforehand to help that.
>So do it yourself
This. Just buy your own tire machine bro. Then pay rent for a location to store it. Then set up a storefront and insurance for employees. Then hire people and hope they come to work. No big deal, right? Who needs money for basic needs, anyway?
just because you have a tire machine doesn't mean you should set up a scamshop
Tires are the biggest scam on earth. Tire shops get tires for less than 100 bucks each, then flip them to customers for over 200 each. Protip, a lot of tire stores keep their tires on the roof of the building, unsecured.
Thanks bro. And yeah, car shop here is trying to sell tires for $350/each (r17 vrx2 winter tires) when they go for $150-200 online and that’s without any special discounts.
I’m sick of you retards and Adam Ruins Everything talking about scammers when all you’re doing is expressing a misunderstanding of economics. Tire sales make 20-40 percent profit. Old ones get recycled and that cost the shop. They need to rent a trailer from the disposal company and that cost as much as a house. They not only need to pay the sales person, but also all the technicians. There’s usually at least 4 because customers go somewhere else if they need to wait too long. So, labor and recycling, not to mention cost to keep water and lights and run compressors and balancers, taxes, insurance. It costs around a thousand a day if the shop is lucky, just to break even. Money to pay employees is taken from rainy day funds, about half the time. Warranty work is done for free and that’s almost half the work. Lawyer and CPA want money. Uncle same always tripping on the environment. It’s pretty much a charity operation. In time, ownership will become an impossibility and you can give all your money to big box stores as long as you didn’t say anything racist on social media and you’re up to date on your jabs.
Local shop charges $10, unless you buy tires from them, then it's free.
I buy 3 tires as cheap as possible and take them to localbro but take one wheel to discount tire and pay the $250+ with their insurance.
Whenever I pop any of the tires, I just take it back to discount tire. I have gotten 3 new tires doing this so far. Last one I broke the shock mount goofing around a dirt road and it jammed right in the sidewall. It cost me about $50 to get all of that fixed by using tire insurance and a local redneck with a stickwelder.
>130
how?
in my country for a full set with TPMS mounting and balancing is like 13€ tops
>13€
Because you bought the tires from them, right? They made all the money on the tires themselves. 13 yuroshekels for 4 tires that somebody brought in themselves from TireRack or something would be losing a bunch of money.
No? I buy my own tires someplace else and mount them at a local shop. Why the fuck would it be so expensive?
They make about zero actual money on that, when they’re not making sales. Maybe that’s why it a bit steep. Because everything is. Our money ain’t worth shit.
That’s actually pretty fair for 4 tires, the labor and machinery they’re using, especially if that includes recycling the old tires. Remember that they’re using expensive equipment to do that, and if they were using tire spoons and old school balancing methods, you would be looking at like 2hrs labor for somebody who knows what they’re doing.
that machine costs 25k anon
Bloat
>chinkshit
now look at prices on a new Bean or Hunter.
>bloat
For the home gamer, its more than enough. Hell, I have friends begging me to do their tires because they're tired of being bent over at shops with "pro" equipment. I only ask for a six pack as payment and end up getting that and cash on top. Me and my buddy are looking to go halfzies again so we can have one set each to split the load of friends and family needing tire service.
I should buy one of these for my garage. If you charge $80, you break even after 28 customers.
americastire does it for free as long as you bought your tires from them
you live in a left wing shithole. It cost like $10 dollars here
>he's happy to earn $10
I paid $50 to have a single tire mounted and balanced on my spare wheel, they didn't even have to unmount it I did that for them and put it back on myself in the parking lot. Tire monkeys deserve the rope. Never not going to Mexicans for tire or exhaust related shit again.
why on earth would you pay for dynamic balance on a spare tire? you're speed limited with those anyway. just bubble level it and call it a day.
Late reply but it's a legitimate full size tire to match the four, I don't fuck with shitty ass donut spares rated for trailers.
>you're speed limited with those anyway
fuck. i forgot donut spares were a thing
I get mine done for free now from goodyear cause the employees know and like me
My biggest gripe is in my experience no tire shop is able to change tires without some level of damage.
I am that extreme anal OCD annoying fuck who does things meticulously and doesn't want the tire shop to put any nicks or scratches on my reimz.
Where go? Lambo dealershit? Srs question, I'm willing to pay up for good service so I can maintain teh original paint/finish on my wheels. Yes I know they are technically a consumable and inevitably get minor rock chips with use
as a tire shop worker, non-marring composite spoons are extremely expensive, and the rubber socks they come with quickly come off. but you could buy some and donate them to a shop of your choice.
sorry, i mean the rubber boots the metal spoons come with, and that you can cheaply buy new ones on ebay and elsewhere. if you are really concerned buy your own non-marring spoon and request they use it and give it back.
One time I ordered nice new wheels and I wanted to throw some tires I got online on them. Ended up going to three different shops and they all said they couldn't do it without damaging the rim or it was too low profile (225/35)?!?. Was about to give up when I decided to check out one last joint, it was called
>"4x4 Extreme specialists"
and was deep in the hood, I was going to pass it up but then I saw the truck they had sitting out front was sitting on 30inch chrome wheels. The tires had maybe a half inch of sidewall and sure enough all the other cars where fully Donked. Turns out it was three white rednecks running the place in a sea of blacks. I explained my situation to them and they laughed and said "we ain't afraid of work here". 15 minutes later the new wheels where on and all he asked for was 24$.
TL;DR:find a shop that obviously respects wheels where alot of people in the local car uncultured seem to go
and just like that they get a customer for life
is it even worth it to go through the hassle of buying your own setup to change your tyres when that costs far more than just taking it to a garage?
some things to consider that makes it worth it past the actual cash value.
1. pride in your work
2. knowing it's done right
3. no garage service writers upselling you on TPMS they broke
The question to ask if its economically viable is:
4. Unit cost/How many times will you utilize this tool over its lifespan vs total cost to perform equal amount of work at a shop
I can't help but wonder what the difference between the chinkshit one and the tire shop ones that cost 10x as much.
i dont balance my wheels and im better off for it because the last time i handed them to the retards at walmart they didnt even bother to set the indicator for the valvestem at the valvestem hole on the wheel
they're too retarded to mount weights.