Jim lee and others thought why not and mandated it for some reason
It was pretty widely panned and then nu 52 supes died/ became daddy supes and Wonder Woman got another retcon
They wanted to "modernize superman" so he was a cold distant fuck boi who was just an ass to everyone but still get the girl.
editorial remember the wonder woman and superman paring in the bronze age the survived through various good else world books like Kingdom come and New frontier but wanted to ape off that. Rather then do what those books did as the two grew a relationship through their mutual desire to do good and fix the world through justice and compassion Dc went the early 2000s edgefest route of them now getting together because their "loners and no one understand them except each other so they should bang"
They wanted to "modernize superman" so he was a cold distant fuck boi who was just an ass to everyone but still get the girl.
editorial remember the wonder woman and superman paring in the bronze age the survived through various good else world books like Kingdom come and New frontier but wanted to ape off that. Rather then do what those books did as the two grew a relationship through their mutual desire to do good and fix the world through justice and compassion Dc went the early 2000s edgefest route of them now getting together because their "loners and no one understand them except each other so they should bang"
said it was just two loner fucking each like a bad batmanxcatwoman fanfiction that didn't go anywhere. It was so bad that it cause the even more stupid backlash of Superman giving a shit about humanity becuse he bangs Lois mentality
>Why is LULZ so hostile to Diana x Clark?
Because they want Batman to get all the girls. Diana, Babs, Lois, Cheetah, and Selina all get Batdick while Superman is off masturbating in his Fortress of Solitude.
Long and short of it. its fucking boring its always either
>diana lets do more good >great idea clark. lets
or
>diana we'll need to be a little more heavy handed to get things done >got it. we'll sacrifice 2000 kids to find this villain
Supes is always the moral compass since his editorial never lets him be evil. but the problem is that WW is also almost always good. so its either an echo chamber or she's forced to be unnecessarily heavy handed.
Tldr:
they play off like childhood friends or siblings than actual lovers with complementary chemistry
Superman has always been a human who happened to be a kryptonian so making him actively seek out god like pussy is pretty contrary to the message that he's just a guy with powers and more in line with the DCEU snyder messaging of
>i am a god and expect to be treated a god you're all insects im just pretending to be relatable
I mainly dislike the justification for it which is usually that Superman can only be understood by someone powerful like him when power itself has never been defining of him
It's not vanilla at all, it's terribly out of character for both characters.
The whole "he/she's a demigod just like me, we understand each other" angle was awful, neither Clark nor Diana ever gave a shit about their powers and in fact always seemed to prefer normal human partners that didn't remind them all the time how inhuman they are.
Personally I ship them. though it was mainly due to the fact that their child would probably be overpowered as fuck. Also I never liked super powered individuals dating normal humans. If I was superman I would be scared to fuck any normal person I might break them or if your normal and fucking someone as strong like wonder woman well say good bye to your pelvis.
i unironacally liked it and the love triangle with batman was kind of cool.
everyone complains but modern batman and supes barely have any personality and are so homogenized for maximum self insert that theres barely any personality there. Nu52 Supes had his flaws but once you came to accept those flaws, reading about him was actually pretty kino
How many have offspring from a ship?
General Zod
Ursa
Faora-Ul
Lex Luthor
Mercy Graves
Doomsday
Deadshot
Harley Quinn
The Joker
Captain Boomerang
Killer Croc
El Diablo
Slipknot
Enchantress
Doctor Poison
Deathstroke
Ocean Master
Black Manta
Dr. Sivana
Maxwell Lord
Cheetah
Darkseid
Bloodsport
King Shark
Polka-Dot Man
The Thinker
Savant
Blackguard
Weasel
Calender Man
Black Adam
The Riddler
The Penguin
Carmine Falcone
Ra's al Ghul
Scarecrow
Black Mask
Victor Zsasz
Two-Face
Bane
Catwoman
Talia al Ghul
Max Shreck
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Eve Teschmacher
Hector Hammond
Sinestro
Bizarro
Manchester Black
Brother Blood
Joe Chill
Blcokbuster
Marvel has Absorbing Man/Titania, Molecule Man/Volcana, Carnage/Shriek, and the Sabretooth/Mystique/Destiny triangle, but who else that actually lasted?
I liked Tarantula, I really miss the Batfamily from the early 2000s to until Infinity Crisis in 2006, their stories might not be great but the dynamic between characters was amazing
Pretty sure the then current legal dispute with the Shuster Estate had DC spooked so they preemptively took initiatives to separate their Superman from the one created by the original creators and that includes characters like Lois Lane
People were asking for it for years. They got it, didn't like it, then went back to asking for Steve. They got that, didn't like it, then went back to shipping her with Batman
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Jim lee and others thought why not and mandated it for some reason
It was pretty widely panned and then nu 52 supes died/ became daddy supes and Wonder Woman got another retcon
Basically erased from continuity entirely
In her whole existence. How many ships did artists let Harls have?
They wanted to "modernize superman" so he was a cold distant fuck boi who was just an ass to everyone but still get the girl.
editorial remember the wonder woman and superman paring in the bronze age the survived through various good else world books like Kingdom come and New frontier but wanted to ape off that. Rather then do what those books did as the two grew a relationship through their mutual desire to do good and fix the world through justice and compassion Dc went the early 2000s edgefest route of them now getting together because their "loners and no one understand them except each other so they should bang"
Why is LULZ so hostile to Diana x Clark? It's pretty vanilla, but so is Babs and Dick and you guys love that.
new 52
like
said it was just two loner fucking each like a bad batmanxcatwoman fanfiction that didn't go anywhere. It was so bad that it cause the even more stupid backlash of Superman giving a shit about humanity becuse he bangs Lois mentality
>Why is LULZ so hostile to Diana x Clark?
Because they want Batman to get all the girls. Diana, Babs, Lois, Cheetah, and Selina all get Batdick while Superman is off masturbating in his Fortress of Solitude.
Are you retarded?
1) Dick + Kory is the true gay whatever
2) Superman doesn't need a goddess, when what the character has always demanded is a human grounding mechanism in his relationships.
3) See 1) where Earthboy Dick needs Kory, not some bitch who can't even feel her pussy.
Because Superman has been tied to Lois since he fucking appeared in Action 1. There is no reason for him to want Wonder Woman.
Long and short of it. its fucking boring its always either
>diana lets do more good
>great idea clark. lets
or
>diana we'll need to be a little more heavy handed to get things done
>got it. we'll sacrifice 2000 kids to find this villain
Supes is always the moral compass since his editorial never lets him be evil. but the problem is that WW is also almost always good. so its either an echo chamber or she's forced to be unnecessarily heavy handed.
Tldr:
they play off like childhood friends or siblings than actual lovers with complementary chemistry
Superman has always been a human who happened to be a kryptonian so making him actively seek out god like pussy is pretty contrary to the message that he's just a guy with powers and more in line with the DCEU snyder messaging of
>i am a god and expect to be treated a god you're all insects im just pretending to be relatable
I mainly dislike the justification for it which is usually that Superman can only be understood by someone powerful like him when power itself has never been defining of him
It's not vanilla at all, it's terribly out of character for both characters.
The whole "he/she's a demigod just like me, we understand each other" angle was awful, neither Clark nor Diana ever gave a shit about their powers and in fact always seemed to prefer normal human partners that didn't remind them all the time how inhuman they are.
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Tom King, pretentious homosexual
Tom King, tongue my anus
Tom King, king of cucks
Tom King, certified cocksucker
Tom King, herald of the homocoitus
The ship is fine, Tom King is ass
Personally I ship them. though it was mainly due to the fact that their child would probably be overpowered as fuck. Also I never liked super powered individuals dating normal humans. If I was superman I would be scared to fuck any normal person I might break them or if your normal and fucking someone as strong like wonder woman well say good bye to your pelvis.
You're legit autistic
They had a fetish for mid flight supersex and thought that was all that was needed in stead of a relationship with actual chemistry.
fucking marvel and misty knight and falcon
and carol and rhodey
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>How could it have been you?
>How could you compare?
>You were never good enough.
He's not wrong.
>cuck queen lois.
fucking based.
that overly confident whore deserves to be knocked down a peg.
Prom king and queen effect
Because it's considered a power couple and Didio didn't want the two to be with their usual love interests.
I remember liking this comic or at least the Zod/Faora arc.
i unironacally liked it and the love triangle with batman was kind of cool.
everyone complains but modern batman and supes barely have any personality and are so homogenized for maximum self insert that theres barely any personality there. Nu52 Supes had his flaws but once you came to accept those flaws, reading about him was actually pretty kino
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DC needs Giganta and Choi to continue.
How many have offspring from a ship?
General Zod
Ursa
Faora-Ul
Lex Luthor
Mercy Graves
Doomsday
Deadshot
Harley Quinn
The Joker
Captain Boomerang
Killer Croc
El Diablo
Slipknot
Enchantress
Doctor Poison
Deathstroke
Ocean Master
Black Manta
Dr. Sivana
Maxwell Lord
Cheetah
Darkseid
Bloodsport
King Shark
Polka-Dot Man
The Thinker
Savant
Blackguard
Weasel
Calender Man
Black Adam
The Riddler
The Penguin
Carmine Falcone
Ra's al Ghul
Scarecrow
Black Mask
Victor Zsasz
Two-Face
Bane
Catwoman
Talia al Ghul
Max Shreck
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Eve Teschmacher
Hector Hammond
Sinestro
Bizarro
Manchester Black
Brother Blood
Joe Chill
Blcokbuster
Does DC have even 10% of notable villain long run romances that Marvel does??
Marvel has Absorbing Man/Titania, Molecule Man/Volcana, Carnage/Shriek, and the Sabretooth/Mystique/Destiny triangle, but who else that actually lasted?
Punch and garden gnomeelee, Harley and Ivy I guess, Tigress and Icicle
all promoted by Geoff Johns
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I liked Tarantula, I really miss the Batfamily from the early 2000s to until Infinity Crisis in 2006, their stories might not be great but the dynamic between characters was amazing
Pretty sure the then current legal dispute with the Shuster Estate had DC spooked so they preemptively took initiatives to separate their Superman from the one created by the original creators and that includes characters like Lois Lane
People were asking for it for years. They got it, didn't like it, then went back to asking for Steve. They got that, didn't like it, then went back to shipping her with Batman
>then went back to shipping her with Batman
Which was a more creepier and bland ship than WW+Sup
just because it was a dead in water ship in JLU
Frank Miller fanboys in high places