Teraphy and hating women

>be me
>hate women
>my therapist recommended me to "interact" more with women (In a non sexual way, fucking prostitutes is my main source of interaction with females but it's not the same as knowing them in a personal level)
>try to make friends with women
>all of them reject to know me
>all of them have prejudices against me and unironically think i want to fuck them just for being male
>all of them are vain and hate me for being short and won't talk to me
>whenever i approach a woman they look at me as if i were a criminal
>they simply don't want my friendship if i don't look like "Chad"
>MFW

I don't think therapy is working for me. Interacting with women is actually making me hating them even more, actually it's making it worse. Recently i reminded me that even my own mother refused to breastfeed me.

Should i continue the teraphy? I don't think it's helping me.

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Continue therapy. Stop blaming a gender for your inadequacies and try analysing what it is you're doing to repel and disgust.

    Stop blaming your height or "not being a chad", that's retarded and has nothing to do with reality. Take responsibility for yourself.

    Continue the therapy, talk to your therapist about your experiences and how you're feeling.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >try analysing what it is you're doing to repel and disgust.
      It's the way i look. My height, my face, my skin, my facial structure. Things i cannot control whatsoever.

      And meanwhile things like my wheight or my manners or my personal hygiene fall under my control, it's the traits i cannot control that makes women repulsed to me.

      >Stop blaming your height or "not being a chad", that's retarded and has nothing to do with reality.
      It is
      >Take responsibility for yourself.
      How? I literally said women hate me for things i cannot control.

      >Continue the therapy, talk to your therapist about your experiences and how you're feeling.
      She is not helping me at all just like you aren't neither. Both of you are unable to feel empathy for me and fail to understand the nature and behavior of women.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        even though they treat you disrespectfully anon, you have to stand strong and be the better person. hatred will only cause more hatred. being the better person and recognizing that the people who disrespect you are not worth your time and effort is the first step anon. the women you are interacting with dont seem like good people. they seem mean and uncaring of your situation, but nevertheless being the better person is the first step to achieve greathness and strenght of character. who care if those women are disrespectul, they are filled with meaness that they direct towards you for being "ugly". be strong and recognize that those people arent good, theyre unhappy with themselves. now you anon, you have the chance to rise above them and be kind, caring and strong. be what they could, and be happy. find what you enjoy and dedicate yourself. bring others happiness and most of all bring yourself happiness. rise above the hatred and pain and you will become what they cant, even with all their characteristics. its a difficult proccess but talking to friends always helps anon, the therapists isnt wrong in that you need to talk to more people, but these people seem incredibly mean and self centered. find good people and talk to them. godspeed anon

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Has any woman straight up told you that they are rejecting interacting with you because of how you look? Even if you think any other answer they could give is fundamentally dishonest, (which is just flat out incorrect, there could be other honest answers out there), I don’t think they’d think that of themselves. Find someone you can ask why THEY think you’re having problems, and I’m going to guess they’ll tell you something you can work with.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry anon, I can't because with you because you are just too UGLY!! You stopped going to the gym and your stomach is faaat and ugh that neckbeard you've been growing lately, idk if you thought that was hot or somethiinng but it's looking like an automatic no. grow up anon, and when you do, maybe i'll THINK about coming back!!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What makes a man become like this?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              too much porn and masturbation
              what do you do after you jerk off? lay around and do leisure ass shit

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Idk what you're talking about but whatever it is, it's looking like an automatic no. I don't understand how you could poossssibly expect me to listen to a word you say with you being so fucking ugly as you are? Please anon, grow up.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Women

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      op may be a retard but saying chicks dont judge men by their appearance is fucking retarded, chicks do not like masculine, ugly and short guys unless they know they're gay or they look or sound effeminate, every chick iv over heard talk about guys height talk like short guys are fucking disabled and most of them have talked about how they fel scared of random guys they see while walking, women literally refuse to walk to some places alone and to not walk at night, you probably expect op to act and look like a homosexual

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop being deliberately blind to how women act and how people perceive height. It actually happens out in the world. You are literally blaming him for being insulted by other people. You are an idiot, please die.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, being short puts you at an unfair disadvantage, but if you think "Everyone hates me because of my height and facial structure and for no other reason," you're kidding yourself.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shove a dynamite stick up to your ass and blast yourself retard

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >GASLIGHT: the post

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        see
        [...]

        Your refusal to admit that you have a problem is pathetic and the sign of major retardation

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Schizo: the post.
          Meds, retard.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          If faithful husbands who envy us knew how unhappy we are... when their wives, who we idolized, yield to us.. The disillusion and boredom which result from their surrender!

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ego hates the truth that tells them to change. OP is a fag that will not accept fpbp

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're the asshole telling people to fit in others' preferential boxes and you talk about ego? fuck you

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lol no I am not whatever asshole you are projecting onto today.

          All I am saying is fpbp and anyone that is triggered by that should stick with therapy till they aren't.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            see

            >GASLIGHT: the post

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You come off as extremely defensive, sensitive, hostile, and arrogant. These are not qualities that most people find attractive. They may be part of the reason you aren't as socially successful as you'd like.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't want to be "socially successful." I have three good friends; all I need; a sister and my parents. I now need a wife to bear my children and then I can permanently checkout out of "society."

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              The point stands. You're going to have trouble finding an emotionally healthy woman who is willing to settle for an angry, resentful, hypersensitive man.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >emotionally healthy woman
                literally not a thing in my experience

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If every woman in the world is emotionally deranged, why do you want one for a life partner?

                > You're going to have trouble finding an emotionally healthy woman who is willing to settle for an angry, resentful, hypersensitive man

                They fuck and marry mentally ill Chads all the time. The problem isn’t his mind

                Yes, if he were a billionaire who looked like Ryan Gosling he would be able to attract women in spite of his resentful, whiny outlook. That doesn't mean his resentful, whiny outlook isn't a problem.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                To fulfill the genetic imperative obviously

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Yes, if he were a billionaire who looked like Ryan Gosling he would be able to attract women in spite of his resentful, whiny outlook.

                It doesn’t even need to be that exaggerated. Were he a 6’5” dude with the same presumably incel face he would be laying XX vermin like a pro.

                >That doesn't mean his resentful, whiny outlook isn't a problem.

                It literally isn’t. It’s a consequence.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It doesn’t even need to be that exaggerated. Were he a 6’5” dude with the same presumably incel face he would be laying XX vermin like a pro.
                It's really not that simple. Being tall puts you at an advantage, but an unkempt, physically unfit, angry, awkward tall guy isn't going to "lay XX vermin" that much better than an unkempt, physically unfit, angry, awkward medium-height guy.

                >It literally isn’t. It’s a consequence.
                Okay, so go to your grave crying about how the world isn't fair and how your problems aren't your fault.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Okay, so go to your grave crying about how the world isn't fair and how your problems aren't your fault.

                It’s incredible how quick stink holes resort to just telling you to die when you win over their NPC programming spiel tactics

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > You're going to have trouble finding an emotionally healthy woman who is willing to settle for an angry, resentful, hypersensitive man

                They fuck and marry mentally ill Chads all the time. The problem isn’t his mind

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              > I now need a wife to bear my children and then I can permanently checkout out of "society."

              Why would you want to have children knowing you’re a subhuman manlet ? Create one more suffering bastard

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >manlet
                funny how you assume that. No, I'm socially inept because I can't into conversations about shit I have no interests in. Fuck sports and true crime. If people don't give two shits about my hobbies and interests why should I give a fuck about theirs? This is a mentality I've lived by my whole life. I'm not going to be a door mat for the sake of pussy.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >funny how you assume that
                you literally wrote in your OP youre short and blamed it on this

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not op but I sympathize. We need ids like pol

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                The issue isn't overlapping interests. You can find someone else who shares your interests. The issue is your hostile, whiny, defensive outlook. Even if we shared all the same interests I wouldn't want to have a conversation with you because you sound boring and unpleasant. People whose outlook boils down to "The world is bad and I'm perfect and don't need to change and life isn't fair" are a dime a dozen.

                To fulfill the genetic imperative obviously

                Okay, so become a sperm donor. Or knock up some random woman. No need for you to lower yourself to partnering yourself with a horrible inferior female who is so unworthy of your attentions.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Even if we shared all the same interests I wouldn't want to have a conversation with you because you sound boring and unpleasant

                I bet a 6’5” Chad wouldn’t need to exchange a word with you for you to bend over like a animal in heat

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You really are stuck on this idea of height being the only variable that matters, aren't you? If you were tall it'd be something else, I'm sure. You'd say, "Being a 6'5" lanklet sucks if you have a recessed chin, if only I had a strong chin I would be slaying pussy 24/7, but chin shape is the only variable that matters so I am doomed forever and it's not my fault, blah blah blah."

                I just don't understand what you think whining about the unfairness of life will get you. Yes, life is unfair. It's unfair that men who are tall are considered more attractive than men who are short. It's unfair that men who have such-and-such face shape are considered more attractive than men with a different face shape. It's unfair that some people are born with money and some aren't. It's unfair that some people are born in mud huts and others are born in huge mansions. It's unfair that some people are born healthy and others are born with disabling conditions. It's unfair that some people have parents who love them and some people have parents who hate them. Everyone in the world has to deal with the unfairness of circumstance. Jesus Christ, just the fact that you can read and write makes you luckier than a lot of people in the world. So, what I don't understand is this: how do you think that endlessly complaining about the unfairness of life will improve things? Do you think it will make your life better?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > You really are stuck on this idea of height being the only variable that matters, aren't you?

                No I just singled it out for simplicity sake but I know full well other factors are important.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >become a sperm donor. Or knock up some random woman.

                I want my progeny to have a caring mother and I'd like to have a relationship with them. If I cared about spreading my seed devil may care I'd vacation in the philippines or thailand.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I want my progeny to have a caring mother
                I thought we'd established that all women are emotionally deranged. Surely a horrible evil femoid who only cares about Chad penis will not be a good parent.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Surely a horrible evil femoid who only cares about Chad penis will not be a good parent.

                They have genetic motherly instinct though. They’re only evil when they’re not dealing with infants

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, okay. Sorry, clearly I don't have your subtle understanding of human psychology. What happens when the child is no longer an infant, though? Won't it be inconvenient to have an evil woman around the house? Do you intend to kick her out at that point?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > What happens when the child is no longer an infant, though?

                If he’s a Chad she’s gonna keep loving him (perhaps also sexually considering the son is a extension of the father). If he’s a beta he starts being treated like trash.

                > Won't it be inconvenient to have an evil woman around the house? Do you intend to kick her out at that point?

                I’m not OP but I would personally just kill or kick her out of the house, as women are a hindrance to make child education after 7 yo. Ancient and primitive people knew this and yanked the brats out of the mothers as soon as they started to walk to be trained as warriors and true men

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m not OP but I would personally just kill or kick her out of the house, as women are a hindrance to make child education after 7 yo. Ancient and primitive people knew this and yanked the brats out of the mothers as soon as they started to walk to be trained as warriors and true men
                Oh, okay. Of course. Do you plan to let your wife know you plan to murder or reject her after a few years, or will it be a surprise?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Surprise obviously.
                Cruise vacation. My poor wife fell overboard. What's this blunt force trauma to the head? Must've hit it on something on the way down.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like a great plan. I'm sure you'll have a very happy life. If only you were two inches taller, then everything would be different.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If only you were two inches taller, then everything would be different.
                This but unironically.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >2 inches

                More like several because I’m 5’8”. I would only ever be satisfied being like 2,10 m because I need to account for female standard inflation.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's so goddamn stupid. If you spent more time in real life and less time in your online echo chamber you'd realize that there are tons of men under 2.1m/6'9" who have success with women. The idea that you're treated like a leper unless you're built like an NBA player is pure delusion.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just take the stairs bro
                >there's nothing stopping you bro
                >it'll work out bro trust me bro

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am well under 6'9" and I have a girlfriend. How did this happen, according to you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                She's settling and or cheating. Either she doesn't respect you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you claiming that every single woman on earth who's partnered to a guy under 6'9" is cheating or settling? That's so bonkers I don't know what to tell you. You do realize that less than 1% of men are 6'9" or over, right?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not necessarily 6'9, the exact number is debatable, though it is without certain significantly above average, but every woman is always looking for someone more attractive than the chump they're settling with. Women would rather a 6'9's side piece, secretly or otherwise, then dedicate themselves to a manlet or other such genetic failure.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If a woman is with a 6'9" guy is she on the lookout for a guy who's like 6'11"? At what point does it stop? Like if you're 7' tall can you relax, or will your girl still be looking for a guy who's even taller than you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > If a woman is with a 6'9" guy is she on the lookout for a guy who's like 6'11"?

                Yes, because you’re literally hyper hypergamous sub-animals

                > At what point does it stop?

                It doesn’t

                > Like if you're 7' tall can you relax, or will your girl still be looking for a guy who's even taller than you?

                Yes. If she can find a even taller dude she’ll cheat on him all things being equal

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes. If she can find a even taller dude she’ll cheat on him all things being equal
                So if there was a guy who was 20 feet tall, she'd be secretly hoping to cheat on him with a guy who's 21 feet tall? You sure are teaching me a lot about women today.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > So if there was a guy who was 20 feet tall, she'd be secretly hoping to cheat on him with a guy who's 21 feet tall?

                Yes. That’s literally what hypergamy is.

                > You sure are teaching me a lot about women today.

                Cold hard science doesn’t give a shot about your whore feelings

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for your patience, I'm not a science expert like you are.

                He was also deformed and weak, so it would cancel out, but I still think he pulled his fair share of cunts on the day

                Are attributes like personality capable of canceling out the effects of height, or is it only immutable physical characteristics that can cancel out height?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >personality
                Lmao
                >immutable physical characteristics.
                Hair, frame, face, dick and more all play into it to varying degrees, but nothing is saving you if you're a manlet. Even really good looking men can be mogged and cucked by men who look even better.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Even really good looking men can be mogged and cucked by men who look even better.
                So your situation would be fundamentally no different if you were taller and better looking than you are now. You'd still be oppressed by guys who were taller and better looking than you were.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It could still happen but the chance of it would decrease significantly with every inch of height, and every inch counts.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, it's too bad your life has been irreversibly ruined by circumstances beyond your control. I guess your only option now is to whine and complain about it until you die.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > I guess your only option now is to whine and complain about it until you die.

                You also forgot our violent/serial killer options.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's really not so different. Misogynists who run around shooting people are basically just whining through the barrel of a gun.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Misogynists who run around shooting people are basically just whining through the barrel of a gun.

                You wouldn’t say that while we would hold a barrel to your face being basically god

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Any retard can kill another person, it doesn't make you god. Shit, I'd rather get shot than be someone pathetic enough to run around waving a gun like some kind of replacement peepee.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Shit, I'd rather get shot than be someone pathetic enough to run around waving a gun like some kind of replacement peepee.
                >Ha ! You’re so pathe-ACK

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're arguably a step lower because you don't even have the initiative to go on a pathetic killing spree. All you can do is fantasize about it between bouts of masturbating to niche pornography.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > You're arguably a step lower because you don't even have the initiative to go on a pathetic killing spree.

                I don’t have access to guns. Plus I could kill way more of you being a serial killer

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, have fun being a serial killer then.

                >muh starving African
                I guarantee I've been through worse than any normalfag ITT. If you want this to turn into a pity pissing contest be warned that I'll win. Even among all the things I've suffered, being a sexual/romantic dead-end is the worst.

                I really doubt it. Everyone's life comes with some difficulties, and being rejected romantically is a common one.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >being rejected romantically is a common one.
                >uh chad only pumped and dumped me I didn't get to be his gf so heckin sad I'm an incel now.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I really doubt it. Everyone's life comes with some difficulties, and being rejected romantically is a common one.
                uhhh actually about 95% of men will have sex in their lives. If you remove the volcels, probably 97 to 99% of men who want to have sex will have sex.
                It is very common to have romantic failures. It is very, very uncommon to not have any romantic successes.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >95% of men will have sex in their lives.
                if they want to scrape the bottom of the barrel
                i could go out tomorrow night and bag myself an ugly hog if i wanted to but that isn't what this is about

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                They deserve to be honored just like everyone else.
                And we do honor them.
                But you don't put the bruised apples at the top of the crate.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, that's not an option because then you become attractive to women and your inceldom is cured (supposing you can sneak past the guards).

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                But I thought height was the only thing that mattered. Now you're basically claiming that being famous or aggressive can make women attracted to you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kind of, yes, but the impact is felt sigmoidally as you get more attractive. Initial gains in attraction help a great deal (think: going from a 2 to a 5), then the trend inflects and you begin to see diminishing returns (going from a 7 to a 9).
                Fundamentally things stay the same, but the life you experience is dramatically different. No one would choose to be less attractive, and the reason why is because looks matter.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, looks matter, but they're not all that matters, and wallowing in self-pity about it is counterproductive. Jesus, all the retards in this thread could just have easily been born into some village in rural Africa where you'd never learn to read and write and never learn much of anything about the world at large. You're more fortunate than you'd like to acknowledge.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > You're more fortunate than you'd like to acknowledge

                How am I fortunate ? Just because I have the bare minimum to survive and have to compete with superior people ? The African naggers life might be even more happier and oblivious than mine

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're fortunate because it's only by a quirk of fate that you aren't an illiterate farmer living in a mud hut and sleeping on the ground. And if you'd rather pursue that lifestyle, there are plenty of villages out there that'd be happy to have you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > You're fortunate because it's only by a quirk of fate that you aren't an illiterate farmer living in a mud hut and sleeping on the ground.

                They’re happier though. Being oblivious and stuff

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay -- so why not join them? I'm not kidding. I've worked in plenty of rural Third-World environments and you would have no trouble finding a family who'd be happy to have you move in. Expenses are nonexistent. I know villages in West Africa where you couldn't spend more than $4 a day if you tried.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because their happiness is contingent on their ignorance and I’m already aware of my shit situation

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, okay. Well, I guess your only option is to feel sorry for yourself until you die.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I already said I will also kill you on the low for sport.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh right. Okay, like I said, have fun being a badass edgy serial killer.

                No, I would genuinely be down to trade places with one of those African villagers. Or even like a Medieval peasant. I guess it's hard to say, though. Africa has some of the most miserable countries in the world (in terms of suicide rates) and some of the happiest (in terms of self-reported happiness). I guess it depends on where we're talking about. Obviously active war zones are worse than almost anything, especially in a modern era.
                Timothy Chalomete really said it best by putting it simply, "It's a difficult time to be alive right now." Our society is faced with a crisis of meaning and community, as well as existential threats to our way of life like climate change and demographic replacement. This effectively forms the societal backdrop which other crises are precipitating from. We can demand that incels self-improve, but how? They don't have the guidance or resources to do so on their own. They might still succeed in spite of this, but they face massive obstacles that would not have existed in prior times.
                It's just not the same world any more. On a social level, things change these days because people share their lived experience, discuss it, and come together to find solutions. It necessitates us to "whine" and "wallow" because, otherwise, there will be no change from society at-large.
                I know you're very concerned with helping these guys in the short term and thus want immediate changes from them, but you need to understand that all of them have already tried to do this and failed. Most of them are going to realize that something is wrong by 14 or so and spend the next decade trying to fix it.

                >On a social level, things change these days because people share their lived experience, discuss it, and come together to find solutions. It necessitates us to "whine" and "wallow" because, otherwise, there will be no change from society at-large.
                These are two different things. Yes, we should find a solution to broad social problems. That's not what's going in in this thread, though. In this thread we have a bunch of socially inept dickheads trying to reinforce their preconception that if women don't like them it's 100% due to height and facial structure and 0% due to their godawful approach to life. The whining and fatalism is what provides an excuse not to seek actual solutions.

                I want to and I fantasize about it all the time. It would honestly be incredible. But I'm just too tried. I can hardly manage to dress myself each day, let alone move to another country and survive there.

                You should consider doing Peace Corps somewhere like West Africa. It can certainly be a one-of-a-kind experience, for good or bad, and you may surprise yourself.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > The whining and fatalism is what provides an excuse not to seek actual solutions.

                Fatalism isn’t a excuse, it’s a correct conclusion

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Natural selection at work.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Natural selection at work.
                Just like a mass shooting.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, we got a genuine nutcase here

                There is nothing natural about humanity's selections

                YOU CHOSE to be insufferable, YOU CHOSE to wallow in your own shit, YOU CHOSE to isolate yourself from the world.

                This is you naturally deselecting yourself out of the gene pool. Stop coping

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >she doesn’t think we were already deselected from day one

                Cope

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She
                I'm a Man. More of a man that you'll ever be

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >typing like this

                Your T levels must be negative

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                YOU CHOSE to not have the reaction time to dodge a bullet. YOU CHOSE to be unable to reason with or talk down the shooter. YOU CHOSE to be in a crowded place like a lamb to slaughter.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing natural about humanity's selections

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even if we do imagine you are inescapably doomed to be unloved no matter what you do, you still can choose how to respond to it -- whether you want to spend the rest of your life bitching and carping about something no one can change, or whether you want to direct your energies elsewhere.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ll direct my energies towards killing women on the low, I’ve mentioned it quite a lot here

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, you won't

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn’t know I just got into med school

                You ain’t seen shit

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, go ahead and do that, slugger. Stop wasting your time posting on here, go be an epic serial killer.

                Did I hit too close to home?
                It seems like I did LMAO.
                What did he say before you let him fuck you? Do you feel bad you didn't have the willpower to reject him instead?

                Oh, you didn't use a false rape claim to cope now, did you?

                I'm a guy, dude. Calm down.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm a guy, dude.
                Then you're a delusional one if you don't think the amount of bullshit a man can get away with and still fuck that pussy ia directly proportional to how attractive he is.

                I'm mildly attractive myself so I can get away with mild "bullshit" (or what sounds bullshit to female ears). Like saying I would never register a kid without asking for DNA due to rampant paternity fraud... and having them being 'understanding' towards my position.
                Either
                >well yeah I kinda understand
                Or
                >uhh I don't agree Anon... anyway, do you lift? It looks like you do tee hee

                My ugly teenage self would've been scolded into oblivion for saying that same thing.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Then you're a delusional one if you don't think the amount of bullshit a man can get away with and still fuck that pussy ia directly proportional to how attractive he is.
                Yeah, no shit. People usually prefer to have sex with people they find attractive. I don't think many people will debate you on that one.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Problem is that women only ever care about this and won’t even treat you like a human if you’re not Chad. That’s the whole point

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You most likely strike out with women because they can sense your hostile, resentment-filled, hypersensitive orientation toward the world. I've had success with women and I'm not a "Chad" by any stretch of the imagination.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > I've had success with women and I'm not a "Chad" by any stretch of the imagination.

                I wouldn’t be impressed by your gallery of 3/10 and drunk public use cunts

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't look at relationships in terms of trying to fuck as many women as possible, though I know that's a common outlook right now. The point is that it disproves your claim that women treat you as inhuman if you're not "Chad."

                Thing is, a truly ugly guy can't even get away with "hi, how are you?" towards females.
                I'm not even sure if they're wrong, or if OP has a right to complain. But I totally sympathize with him against the people ~~*(therapist*~~ included) trying to gaslight him into thinking it's his "spirit/mysoginy/bad energy" that makes women despise him, and not his looks.
                It probably IS his looks, and not much else. If anything his hatred and bitterness are consequences, not causes of women scolding him for even dare to get near them.

                Again, there's a grain of truth here (i.e., that more attractive people are treated better) but you're exaggerating it massively and using it to justify useless and self-harming behavior. Yes, it's unfair that some people are more attractive than others. However, bitching about it and developing a seething resentment for half the human race isn't a useful response.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > The point is that it disproves your claim that women treat you as inhuman if you're not "Chad."

                You certainly underestimate your attractiveness

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're unwilling to consider modifying your worldview to suit new evidence. Instead, you reflexively try to alter the evidence to suit what you already believe. Yes, looks matter, but it's not everything, and not every person is the same or values the same things.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > and not every person is the same or values the same things.

                Though women are not people

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                They are, which I guess makes life more complicated for you.

                >Yes, it's unfair that some people are more attractive than others
                I never even claimed that. I stopped thinking in terms of fairness/unfairness a long time ago, because it's useless. I do what works.
                And yes, I believe he should just forsake women and ignore their existence instead of letting them live 24/7 rent free in his head. But
                >nooo you can't have contempt for muh precious women, you have to love them
                >if they treat you poorly it's not because you're ugly, it's because you're le bad person
                >it doesn't matter what you do, you'll always be le bad person, and women mistreating you is the ultimate termometer on your personal badness
                This is even less helpful than his whining.

                >>nooo you can't have contempt for muh precious women, you have to love them
                >>if they treat you poorly it's not because you're ugly, it's because you're le bad person
                >>it doesn't matter what you do, you'll always be le bad person, and women mistreating you is the ultimate termometer on your personal badness
                >This is even less helpful than his whining.
                No one in this thread said any of that.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > which I guess makes life more complicated for you

                Care to explain how so ?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If women were all robots programmed to think and do the same things, life would be much simpler. However, women are human beings, with all the complications that entails.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >with all the complications that entails

                Such as if Chads or Tyrone’s are better ?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Humans like and value all kinds of different things, often for reasons they don't understand well themselves. Women are human beings; they aren't just robots with scanners to assess height and penis size or whatever.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Women are human beings; they aren't just robots with scanners to assess height and penis size or whatever.

                They are though. Otherwise they wouldn’t reject us manlets out right

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, it's unfair that some people are more attractive than others
                I never even claimed that. I stopped thinking in terms of fairness/unfairness a long time ago, because it's useless. I do what works.
                And yes, I believe he should just forsake women and ignore their existence instead of letting them live 24/7 rent free in his head. But
                >nooo you can't have contempt for muh precious women, you have to love them
                >if they treat you poorly it's not because you're ugly, it's because you're le bad person
                >it doesn't matter what you do, you'll always be le bad person, and women mistreating you is the ultimate termometer on your personal badness
                This is even less helpful than his whining.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thing is, a truly ugly guy can't even get away with "hi, how are you?" towards females.
                I'm not even sure if they're wrong, or if OP has a right to complain. But I totally sympathize with him against the people ~~*(therapist*~~ included) trying to gaslight him into thinking it's his "spirit/mysoginy/bad energy" that makes women despise him, and not his looks.
                It probably IS his looks, and not much else. If anything his hatred and bitterness are consequences, not causes of women scolding him for even dare to get near them.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kay y'all, I'mma just respectifully direct my energies towards killin bitches on the low...

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I want to and I fantasize about it all the time. It would honestly be incredible. But I'm just too tried. I can hardly manage to dress myself each day, let alone move to another country and survive there.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh starving African
                I guarantee I've been through worse than any normalfag ITT. If you want this to turn into a pity pissing contest be warned that I'll win. Even among all the things I've suffered, being a sexual/romantic dead-end is the worst.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I would genuinely be down to trade places with one of those African villagers. Or even like a Medieval peasant. I guess it's hard to say, though. Africa has some of the most miserable countries in the world (in terms of suicide rates) and some of the happiest (in terms of self-reported happiness). I guess it depends on where we're talking about. Obviously active war zones are worse than almost anything, especially in a modern era.
                Timothy Chalomete really said it best by putting it simply, "It's a difficult time to be alive right now." Our society is faced with a crisis of meaning and community, as well as existential threats to our way of life like climate change and demographic replacement. This effectively forms the societal backdrop which other crises are precipitating from. We can demand that incels self-improve, but how? They don't have the guidance or resources to do so on their own. They might still succeed in spite of this, but they face massive obstacles that would not have existed in prior times.
                It's just not the same world any more. On a social level, things change these days because people share their lived experience, discuss it, and come together to find solutions. It necessitates us to "whine" and "wallow" because, otherwise, there will be no change from society at-large.
                I know you're very concerned with helping these guys in the short term and thus want immediate changes from them, but you need to understand that all of them have already tried to do this and failed. Most of them are going to realize that something is wrong by 14 or so and spend the next decade trying to fix it.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lmao
                Do you care about personality when selecting a partner?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. Even the chick is ugly, if I ever find one that has a personality that isn’t a wet carboard I might be down to reconsider my instinctive repulse. Such thing doesn’t exist with women.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Such absolute statements. Are you so sure about that?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It never ends. This is sexual selection. Eventually we will look like elephant seals unless natural selection puts a limit on how grotesquely massive men can get.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm honestly fucking laughing myself to tears rn at this post and this entire thread

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                what woman on earth is going to hear "You're evil but I want to have a child for genetic reasons, let's get married" and say yes to that?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > what woman on earth is going to hear "You're evil but I want to have a child for genetic reasons, let's get married" and say yes to that ?

                All of them as long as it’s Chad speaking

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, I'm sure you'll be successful then. Best of luck!

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I won’t but it won’t be because of any ineptitude other than the fact I didn’t hit the genetic lottery

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. Everything you're doing is perfect and you don't need to change anything. It's the whole world other than you that is at fault.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Everything you're doing is perfect and you don't need to change anything

                Yes, my reasoning is literally perfect and invincible.

                > It's the whole world other than you that is at fault.

                Yes. Because I didn’t decide to be born 5’8” and bellow average in looks.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                um, psychotic big tiddy goth gf??

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If the guy is attractive enough, several. Half of them at least.
                If it's OP, he's gonna get in trouble.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a woman, anon? You have such a nuanced understanding of the female psyche.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You XX wastes of carbon think you’re sooooo complex because you are midwit tier manipulators but behind that there isn’t much more

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again there's the paradox of you raging and fuming about not getting enough female attention but at the same time claiming that women are evil and inhuman and have nothing to offer.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not about romantic affection, you stupid estrogen drone. It’s about not even getting 1 drop of respect just because I’m not Chad

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s not about romantic affection, you stupid estrogen drone.
                I didn't say it was. Why are men always so emotional and irrational like this? It's weird.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Why are men always so emotional and irrational like this? It's weird.

                Typical “snarky” woman response. You’re literally not even trying anymore. Idk why I even engaged with you. Maybe I just woke up badly today.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. What does it hurt to have a conversation and be treated like a person? And they think it's a mystery why men are checking out of society. Let me buy you a god damn drink for 10 minutes of your time.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't need to be 6'9" to "have a conversation and be treated like a person," anon.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't women let me buy them a drink then? They write me off as soon as I say hi.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know. Maybe they can sense that you're not at ease with yourself wor with what you're doing. But I really have no way of knowing without actually being there.

                Buying women drinks in bars isn't the only way to go. I don't think I've ever bought a stranger a drink in a bar in my life.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Not in uni
                >All friends are married or in the same boat I am
                The bar is all I got

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have a job? Any hobbies? I met my fiancee in the Peace Corps; the more experiences you have that take you outside of your comfort zone, the more chance you have to forge new connections with other people.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I manage a store where I'm the only employee. My hobbies are reading, video games, board games, anime and 80s/90s pulp action and campy movies. All solo ventures really save for boardgames which I don't do much of anymore since graduating college and everyone's busy with their own bullshit. Cherry on the shit cake is I live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in flyover country.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Huh. I don't really know what to tell you. You haven't made any friends or anything through managing the store?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm the only employee and I don't see any one customer often enough to form a connection

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why don't women let me buy them a drink
                Because the act of buying a drink is generally viewed as transactional. "I buy a drink and you will give me your time (or other things)" and so instead of taking the drink and carrying on, they'll refuse the drink and avoid the entire expectation put upon them.

                The buying a drink thing, while super popular in movies, is only commonly accepted by roasties who want to get blackout.

                A more acceptable way to do the buy a drink thing would be to chitchat FIRST, and offer to buy a drink after you've have words already. That way the precedent of conversation has already been made and the drink is not as "sinister" (for lack of a better word first thing in the morning.

                But, IMO, I would avoid the drink thing entirely.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was exaggerating but the point still stands, retard. With a height bellow 5’10” you’re not even a person

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're still exaggerating, anon. Being short puts you at a disadvantage, but radiating resentment, hostility, and discomfort with yourself puts you at a bigger disadvantage.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol Your abrasive ability to hate and be quite rash with your words is admirable and it amuses me so... !!

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                What do women have to offer? I have yet to get an answer to this question.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Let's say nothing. Women are evil maniacs whose only interest is chasing after Chad penis. So why are you devoting so much time and energy to raging about how you don't get enough female attention? Why care about whether or not evil, irrational people respect you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because I want to have a family someday you dim witted little cunt. Women can't even offer that up anymore. Far as I can tell what you said is the truth. You bring absolutely NOTHING to the table.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If women offer nothing, why are you so worked up about whether or not women like you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                What part of I want a family did you buy understand

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You said here

                Because I want to have a family someday you dim witted little cunt. Women can't even offer that up anymore. Far as I can tell what you said is the truth. You bring absolutely NOTHING to the table.

                that women can't offer you a family.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                sunk cost fallacy

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everything and nothing

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did I hit too close to home?
                It seems like I did LMAO.
                What did he say before you let him fuck you? Do you feel bad you didn't have the willpower to reject him instead?

                Oh, you didn't use a false rape claim to cope now, did you?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Therapy is useless. They just get asshurt if you tell them you don't want meds then laser focus on the shit that's irrelevant to your problems.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >whenever i approach a woman
    There's your oproblem. You are "approaching" women in a suspicious way.

    If you really want to meet women in a non-sexual way, don't target women. Set out to meet a lot of new people, of all genders, just to increase your circle of acquaintances and casual friends. Some of them will be women, but met and related to as just people.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you really want to meet women in a non-sexual way, don't target women. Set out to meet a lot of new people, of all genders, just to increase your circle of acquaintances and casual friends.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because you want to succeed, rather than just sitting around and saying "IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT I FAILED, IT'S THE WORLD THAT'S AT FAULT"

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not going to jump through hoops and make niceties with normies I don't give a fuck about. I was born without that part of the brain. Society is lucky I didn't grow up to be a serial killer.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, cool. Well, if that's the choice you've made, you should accept the results of that choice rather than whining about them.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because I'm not willing to lower myself to their level I'm just supposed to throw in the towel and let the gene pool filter me out? No. This is because men aren't allowed to be men and put women in their place anymore.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Raging about the unfairness of life won't change things for the better. You either need to change your approach or accept the consequences of your current approach.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Life wasn't always like this though. That's what you don't understand. Most men not getting married today would have been very desirable a generation or two ago. Women aren't willing to settle anymore.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, circumstances are unfair. I also wish I lived in a more prosperous and stable time. But just shaking your fist at the sky and saying, "WAAAHHHH!!! WHY ARE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE? IT'S NOT FAIR!" isn't going to change anything. It's a useless gesture.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                P.S.- You're embarrassing yourself talking about "lowering yourself" to other people's level. You're not better than the people you interact with on a day-to-day basis, I guarantee you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                shut up redditor

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're not better than the people you interact with on a day-to-day basis, I guarantee you.
                I met a girl who was really proud about having voted. She couldn't remember whether or not she voted in the presidential election or the midterms.

                Yes. Yeah, I actually am better than most people I interact with on a day-to-day basis.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure a prime specimen like yourself must be going from success to success.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Considering I'm about to fall ass backwards into a six-figure role at work, I'm smarter than 99% of the people around me, and I'm stronger than 80% of them, yeah, I'm doing pretty good.
                The only problem is that society doesn't value those things, so my social status is low, but then again, idiots compete to see who is the biggest idiot, and if that's the competition then I'm cool with bowing out.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                wowwwww, you're so amazing!!!! you're so smart and cool. Anyway you're clearly very smart and awesome I'll stop commenting now to make room for you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No problem, thanks for recognizing your own inferiority.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I just hope being smarter and better than everyone isn't too much of a drag for you. I imagine it must be very frustrating.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is irritating knowing that other people are allowed to have the same rights and status as me.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                All those people who don't like you -- it's not because you're an awkward, defensive, arrogant sperg, it's because they are jealous of your intelligence, your success, and your strength.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mfs will literally write shit like this and than wonder why people dont like them

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              More gaslighting coming from XX stink hole drones. Chad can say whatever the fuck he wants and still get laid.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but I have plenty of friends of both sexes. That doesn't make me attractive. Sure, if I weren't an ugly manlet it'd probably help, but first impressions matter, and even with a personality that has brought me many friends, my ugliness is the first thing women will see. I can't get my foot in the door. This isn't anyone's fault. My genes made me ugly, their genes made them unattracted to ugliness. Nothing to be done about it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        If anything being ugly should help you get friendzoned, which is what OP is asking for help on lmao

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey OP I'm thinking of banging some escorts to try and get over my fears and insecurities witj women. Did it work for you? I want to do it but nervous and it feels dirty and seedy etc. Would you recommend it?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Did it work for you? I
      Yes and no, it helped me to be comfortable around women but also destroyed my ability to pair bond

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read over your own post slowly a few times and ask yourself: why would a woman not want to be friends with this?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like they know (or have the supernatural ability to see) OP's issues. All these women see is "physically ugly", so they just operate on that.

      In the past, women didn't treat me particularly well, they always acted as if I was a little inherently inadequate. Then I made myself more attractive over the years, and today women will even tolerate mild redpills about the vapidity of the female gender on my part, just so they can stick around and be in my presence.

      It is what it is.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You fuck prostitutes and that was previously youre only interactions with women?

    Ever consider you may be unconsciously approaching normal women the way you did prostitutes and so they read you as an obvious creep? You should talk these thoughts out honestly with your therapist more. Describe your feelings as you approach women. How you make yourself appear. Body language. Conversations you try to have etc.

    Also get over the fact that mommy didn't breastfeed or read you enough bed time stories. You are not a child anymore to be crying about childhood bullshit. Grow up. Stick with the hard work of exposure therapy or you will remain a misanthropic loser for longer than is comfortable.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ever consider you may be unconsciously approaching normal women the way you did prostitutes and so they read you as an obvious creep?

      *SIREN ALERTS* GASLIGHT GASLIGHT FUCK OFF PSYOP nagger

      > You should talk these thoughts out honestly with your therapist more. Describe your feelings as you approach women. How you make yourself appear. Body language. Conversations you try to have etc.

      Total coping

      > Also get over the fact that mommy didn't breastfeed or read you enough bed time stories.

      He’s not traumatized by that you fish stinking hole. He just remembered the fact that even his own mother rejected him because of his ugliness

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some real crabs in a bucket mentality by the angriest incel today. Most be agony to hate meme psychology but trapped in a mindset obsessed with meme psychology terms.

        Good luck itt. Hope you find happiness for some time.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not crabs in a bucket mentality. It’s basic mercy. I don’t want to see a brother being violently put in his low caste place by overstepping his lane. There’s literal no hope of true affection for us ugly short men. Not even money can fix that

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    so many kids out there making LULZ their personality

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all women hate me must be something wrong with them
    >by the way i am impossibly sexist and hate women
    Maybe change your mindset

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the problem is the world in general. OP is already perfect and doesn't need to change.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit don’t you female scum ever stop gaslighting

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, they'll literally hate you for being ugly, and then claim they hate you because you're actually a bad person so they can pretend they're not super shallow.

        T. can rub this reality about women in their faces (with words a little bit more gentle) and get away with it because I'm somewhat attractive

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is why I plan on becoming a woman serial killer in the future like based Ted Bundy. Though I will certainly not commit the same mistakes. My upcoming med school education will take me a long way in those objectives

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah dude women are bad people

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    there's a saying in my country that if your mother didn't breastfeed you, you are not a real man

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Robert Wadlow was the tallest man ever, does that also mean he was the most attractive man ever?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was also deformed and weak, so it would cancel out, but I still think he pulled his fair share of cunts on the day

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also look at how these 2 cunts are looking at him. Totally ovulating their whore pouches out

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        yooooo

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically, kind of. If being over 7' didn't come with crippling health effects (due to humans being bipedal), it would be what men were selected for (assuming we could get enough calories to grow that tall, ig).

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty based of you to have insane, hateful expectations of women based on stereotypes and interactions with the lowest common denominator of woman (literal whores), and then to be totally outraged when women have hateful stereotypes about men.
    Are you legitimately so obtuse that you can't see that bigotry is common to all mankind? That it's bad for precisely the reasons you are seeing now?
    >all of them reject to know me
    can't imagine why some disgusting Indian who can't even speak English is getting rejected
    >they simply don't want my friendship if i don't look like "Chad"
    It's more like they:
    1) Assume you only talk to them because you want to fuck
    2) Figure, okay, well at least he's hot, so even if that's the only reason he's here, I can smash
    3) If he actually doesn't want to smash, they can just be his friend.
    Most guys don't approach random women to befriend them. Sometimes it's just what you have to do, but it's unusual. 9/10, a guy randomly talking to a woman is trying to pick her up - not platonically befriend her. Of course htey will assume you want to fuck.
    One solution is to deliberately try to befriend girls you aren't attracted to. Go to your resident study group or board game club or anime convention. You will find loads of hideous women who might genuinely be nice, kind friends.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      > bigotry

      Reddit talk detected, opinion discarded

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am using it in the literal sense. The women are bigoted as well, because they are assuming negative things about men (in this case, about OP specifically). It's bad in both directions.
        There's a difference between being not bigoted and willfully blind, ofc.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          > It's bad in both directions.
          >Le “both sides” meme

          Fuck off whore

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bro you wrote literally like 9 words and managed to not even track with what I said. Both sides stuff is a meme because you're equating different actions. This is LITERALLY, DEFINITIONALLY THE SAME ACTION. I said nothing about the sides and only discussed the action.
            I don't know why I bother. You literally responded with "muh both sides" in a discussion about men and women. Do you think the sexes are at war with one another? Like we have something to gain by that? You have an infantile view of the world and I'm not going to waste another second explaining that to you.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        fucked around and found out round these parts

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No no, we don't want any solutions here. This is all about OP justifying his failure and assigning the blame to anything and everything other than himself.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >loads of hideous women who might genuinely be nice, kind friends.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You shouldn't use words like "bigotry" or "stereotype" around here. They trigger people.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    women dont deserve our attention

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are women persons?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >women
      >people

      Pick one

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>be me
    >>hate women
    doesn't matter its all your fault forever and you're just an incel.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >females

    maybe looking at them as being the same species as you and not some weird alien thing you've never heard about might help.

    It's always cool guys who talk about "females"

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just fucking done. The women can approach and chase me from now on.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your anger is severely misdirected. Think you were a 5/10 woman, and simply by existing you received daily compliments and money from thirsty simps. Would you reject it all and say "No, I should settle for one of those weak men who can't even control their urges"?
    Fuck no. You would start searching your value and soon realize that the only men who are not acting like pathetic wimps near you are those so-called Chads.
    If you really want to hate someone, maybe you should hate those simp males who inflate the ego of every average roastie

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded take. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and all the blame still falls on them

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah yeah, women are bad and everyone hates you because you're not 6'5". Come back when you've got something original to say.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        So you're claiming that simps holds no responsibility for modern female entitlement?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. They’re just as helpless as any incel brother but unfortunately they’ve got even less self worth

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Any simp out there will throw you under the bus and murder your family for the chance to get a whiff of a vagina, and yet here you are defending them and calling them brothers.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              They’re shit people but they’re still family. A brother in misery is still a brother regardless of how much of a shitbag he is

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I simpathize somewhat with OP's opinions, and even I think SIMPs are at least 50% responsible for all the shit regarding female behavior.
          It wasn't women who created massive #MeeToo laws thst effectively made men "guilty until proven innocent" in my country. It was SIMPs holding political power.

  18. 5 months ago
    A girl that will break the rules

    You can't just walk up to women with your serial killer vibes. We can smell that. Stop being a grumpy and pouty little shit inside.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      > You can't just walk up to women with your serial killer vibes

      That’s a weird way of spelling non Chad face structure + low height

      • 5 months ago
        A girl that will break the rules

        NO!!! It is all about height! If you were an eight-foot-tall pouting serial killer literally every women on earth would have sex wiht you

        No, I prefer shorter or equal height men.
        You just want to make everyone else mad at you because you're attention starved. Now stop. Anxiety medication time.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          every woman wants taller men and chad cock

          • 5 months ago
            A girl that will break the rules

            I am not every woman. I am my own individual with personalized tastes.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am 5'1" and have a small chin will you date me

              • 5 months ago
                A girl that will break the rules

                Post face in the atoga soc thread.
                (But I don't do long distance, and needless to say monogamy either)

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                your robot hate of manlet is shining through

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >don't do monogamy
                How to end up childless, miserable and alone 101

              • 5 months ago
                A girl that will break the rules

                I'm not childless, miserable, or alone though.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                How many children from different parents you have?
                >Implying you aren't a tranny like other anons pointed out

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                hideous female try to destroy men and fuck chad

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                How many children from different parents you have?
                >Implying you aren't a tranny like other anons pointed out

                He can't have children you dumb fucks, he doesn't have a womb.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are not a woman to being with, you are tranny and I have the picture of your ass to prove it, also many discord chats where you admit it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          But you're not a real woman my guy, you're a tranny. Stop pretending you're the same as bio females.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If bio women are evil robots and trannies aren't, why not just date a tranny?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because they're not women and I'm not gay.
              Seriously, it's something about the pheromones. It doesn't matter how visually "passable" a tranny is, my body gets sexually repulsed by even getting within arms reach to a tranny.

              And I'm not truly ugly like OP so I can score actual, bio pussy.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why aren't you gay? If men were people and women were evil robots, I would definitely be gay. It's about a partnership and an emotional connection, something you can only have with a fellow human being and not with an evil robot.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don’t choose to be gay ya dolt

              • 5 months ago
                A girl that will break the rules

                Every conservative thinks so. Go write a blog about choosing to be gay as a woman hater. Date men, it'll be good for your health.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would exactly follow the advice of a mentally I’ll troon. And btw, I’m left leaning with the difference that I don’t hide my contempt for minorities and women

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn’t***

              • 5 months ago
                A girl that will break the rules

                I wouldn’t***

                You know you want to obey me and suck fleshy cock.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                not Op but ive tried going gay because I am not attractive enough towards women but it didnt work out, I couldnt get any attraction towards them.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop projecting your homosexual fantasies on me, trash

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because being gay is not a choice.
                This is the one reason I respect gays and twinks. It's not their choice.
                But trying to pass as a female when you're a tranny is 100% a choice, and a despicable one.
                Also

                Because they're not women and I'm not gay.
                Seriously, it's something about the pheromones. It doesn't matter how visually "passable" a tranny is, my body gets sexually repulsed by even getting within arms reach to a tranny.

                And I'm not truly ugly like OP so I can score actual, bio pussy.

                >my body gets sexually repulsed by even getting within arms reach to a tranny
                I respect my biology, Anon. You should try doing the same.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe so, but then why try to get a woman as a partner? Why would you want to live in the same house as an evil robot?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      NO!!! It is all about height! If you were an eight-foot-tall pouting serial killer literally every women on earth would have sex wiht you

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf are you on about? Women LITERALLY want to fuck convited serial killers when they're good looking, bonus points if they're also charismatic.

      The only thing you can smell is his good genes semen through his pants, and you want it inside you.

      • 5 months ago
        A girl that will break the rules

        No, I do not want men that are bad at killing people. Lol.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah, these are different things. There's a difference between
    >Stop blaming your height or "not being a chad", that's retarded and has nothing to do with reality
    and
    >if they treat you poorly it's not because you're ugly, it's because you're le bad person

    > Women are human beings; they aren't just robots with scanners to assess height and penis size or whatever.

    They are though. Otherwise they wouldn’t reject us manlets out right

    Some preferences are common, but no preference is absolute or universal.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tall and women automatically hate me and think I want to fuck or rape them. Being tall and muscular makes me more scary to them.

    The easiest way to be friends with young women is to act like a flamboyant homosexual. Just wear a pink fairy dress, rainbow tiara, have a limp wrist and act really over-the-top stereotypically gay. They'll see you as non-threatening and relax. But doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to be gay friend zoned and not get any pussy, and also have to deal with gay males' advances.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    tl;dr: women are evil and worthless but the fact that they don't like me is ruining my life

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >men are evil and worthless but the fact that they don't like me is ruining my life
      Are feminist's the "incels" of the women?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you consider that statement expressive of feminism, then, sure. Why not?

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how you could not love women. They're soft and adorable and smell good and we complete each other.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's sour grapes, basically. "Women don't like me? Well, it must be because they're evil robots. Also, the only reason they don't like me is because I'm not 6'5", it has nothing to do with my personality or actions."

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't understand that either. I thought there was something deeply wrong with me too when I went several years without getting any interest from women, but all it took was me to drop 5% body fat and now I am overwhelmed by the options I have. If I can do it as a scatterbrained ADHD autist anyone can.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can't know my personality from me just saying "Hi, my name's ______. Wat's yours?" or "Hi, I'm ______. May I buy you a drink." and you laughing and walking away or feeding me a bullshit excuse.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Getting turned down offering someone a drink doesn't make your life some kind of Greek tragedy. Disappointment and unfair circumstance are part of the human experience. It doesn't mean the world is out to get you.

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your therapist does not know what they're talking about.
    You hate women because you have not reached the goal in life that made you a man yet. That makes you unwanted by women. You blame your laziness on women and make excuses like Chad.
    This is universal and you have it. Get to work or keep suffering

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No woman had ever worked to be loved by a woman or be considered a woman. Chad never worked for his success with women. It's all genetic lottery.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am good looking and have features that you'd normally consider chad and I was a virgin until 22 because I was too autistic to go outside and talk to people. Hear hear.
        I now have no relationship because I'm busy with my career. Stop being so obsessed with women

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I had the gun but was too stupid to learn how shoot
          But you had it in you. Most men aren't born with the genetic lottery ticket.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's harder to fuck around in your 20s. Once you hit your 30s you unlock a big chunk of young women to hang out with. Most women don't want to date guys below 30 because they're still boys to them.
            This is not talked about often because it's a lot more exciting to people to spread blackpills.
            >you had it in you
            I did not say I'm not using it to my advantage. If I wasn't good looking it'd be hard to convince people of my intelligence despite having it. You know that study that shows handsome faces are considered intelligent. I just used it for my career and development, not fucking around aimlessly. With that chick I lost my virginity to at 22 - I was only with her for 4 months and I got depressed because I could have done so much more in that timeline. It's a waste

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Once you hit your 30s the pool is even smaller and most are single moms or divorcees

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of that is true.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          All of it it's true and you can't refute it. You just don't like being told the truth.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are plenty of women who don't get love.
            There are plenty of "chads" who don't get love.
            There are plenty of ugly men who get tons of love.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >There are plenty of women who don't get love.

              Don’t give a fuck

              >There are plenty of "chads" who don't get love.

              Great. I also want to see them suffer

              >There are plenty of ugly men who get tons of love.

              It is certainly fake

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It is certainly fake
                Women don't fake loving ugly men unless they're psychopaths/sociopaths which make up a small % of the population and those men they fake loving have money.
                There is no benefit to the average woman to pretend to love an ugly man. Women can and do fall in love with men regardless of their looks.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Women can and do fall in love with men regardless of their looks.

                Nice gaslighting. Ain’t falling for it

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Don’t give a fuck
                >Great. I also want to see them suffer
                You were the one making the argument that they all get love. Now you're being a deflecting homosexual.
                >It is certainly fake
                Incel cope

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You really need to get more real-life experience. This is so divorced from reality it's almost delusional.

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be a man
    <go to therapy
    There's your problem. Therapy is for women and I'd argue it does more harm than help to men,

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just redirect your hate. Don't hate women, hate the israelites that made them this way. Fuck the israelites.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine falling for the israelite cope

      It’s just their filthy nature

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forgive mammy and the seeth against women will go away.

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    my biggest question is why do you need therapy for hating women, just fucking ignore them you dont have to interact with them any more then you have too, are you like beating women or some shit? I dont like black people and homosexuals, guess what I dont talk to them life has never been better, just dont be a fucking retard day dreaming about killing them and shit and you'll be fine. the amount of shit in life that doesnt matter is astronomical, if you were minding your own business and some chick insulting you who gives a shit, literally not giving a shit would piss them off the most, women are attention whore not giving them attention is the most hurtful thing you can do to them, it just sounds like you shouldnt relationships with women in the first place just fuck hookers and ignore women as much as you can and dont be a fucking retard if they try being a retarded bitch

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP seems like a pretty sensible guy to me.

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hate women
    based never change my lord

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Smart lady.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      that bitch plays games with motherfuckers all day get the fuck outta here how about if you lie to yourself and the world go fuck yourself how bout if you post selfies with duck face and think that's actually attractive bitch grow up someone check these hoes the fuck and mary beth which is your first name and which is your last name? classic dumb psuedo mature chad fucking cuck sucking bitch whore

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You sound like a real catch.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am because i don't post dumb selfies of myself on a dumb dating site full of stupid people with stupid contradicting captions and expect to be taken seriously. Thank you for having a few brain cells to notice.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not posting dumb selfies isn't sufficient. You also have to not be a seething, resentment-filled manchild.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              isn't sufficient to what? Being extra retarded? you just sound like a stupid virgin who'd tell her she doesn't look fat in her cocktail dress quit self projecting, I'm just not a simp for dumb whores who wanna pretend to be A class women when we all know they're fucking D on average, C at best fucking average. Grow a real dick ands balls, and then learn how to fucking hold them. OP is smart, neva stop hatin them bitches, cuz they ain't neva gonna change!!

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Untreated autism is a real problem in our society.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't make that musk money, an 8 inch cock and have ever cried as a man, automatic no, grow up. buy my onlyfans uwu

        ayyee

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't make that musk money, an 8 inch cock and have ever cried as a man, automatic no, grow up. buy my onlyfans uwu

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is your therapist a woman or a simp or something? They're going at it the wrong way. They're assuming that if you interact with women you're gonna find out that they're not the selfish sluts you think they are. The problem is, they are selfish sluts. But that's fine. Being a selfish slut is their nature. As is yours, men are also selfish sluts. The problem is that we've been thought as children that women are these selfless, caring creatures who will love you just for being yourself. Absolute delusion. So now you have that idea in mind and you're confronted with reality so you start hating them.

    Women are complex creatures, they can love, they can hate, they can have shallow desires and deep feelings. Hating them for not being the way you want them to be is pointless and immature. Would you hate a dog for barking at you? Would you hate a pidgeon for shitting on you? Maybe, but the point is that this hate is pointless. You cannot change the nature of beings, you have to accept it and work with it, not against it if you want to be successful and happy. Interacting with women might be helpful, but just for understanding them. In order for that to be useful you must first get rid of your immature ideas of what women SHOULD be.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best post

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women's nature needs to be put in check. Not allowed to run rampant. Discipline your children and your wife when they step out of line. Open hand across the face.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, if you're a man like John Wayne or Sean Connery that works. But if you're a flabby, resentment-filled, weak manchild, this will just result in your getting a beatdown from bystanders.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's when you fight the bystanders; flabby or not. It's the cops after the fact that's the problem.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can picture you emitting a high-pitched screech as you, red-faced with rage, aim a slap at your wife's face. She catches your wrist in midair and shoves you to the ground. She then goes off to scroll tinder while you lie on the floor, sobbing with anger and humiliation.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              in the off chance that would ever happen that open hand would become a closed fist, I'd break her jaw and then I really would be going to jail

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No. What you'd do is get on LULZ and post about how you would smash your wife's skull with your mighty fists... then when the anger started to fade, you'd start looking at porn and jerking your undersized peepee. Meanwhile, your wife would be pulling Tinder messages from Chads five inches taller than you and trying to figure what order to bang them in.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're the kind of woman that does her skull caved in

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're the kind of woman that does her skull caved in
                Were your hands shaking as you typed that?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao look at this edgy internet tough guy

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                same to you skank. a generation ago I'd end your ass. you wouldn't act like this if you didn't have ~~*society*~~ to insolate and coddle you

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, if you didn’t have society to “insolate” you you’d be cut off from your porn, political echo-chambers and other avenues of cheap gratification. Quit fantasizing that you’re prepared to be some sort of rugged mountain man or whatever.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                ~~*society*~~ has put me in a box. I'd welcome Road Warrior world. The western world as we know it is simply vanity and consumerism and waiting to die.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt you'll get Road Warrior world. You'll probably spend the rest of your life getting angrier and angrier and more and more detached from reality.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Impotent raging incels like you would be among the first to be culled without the preotection of society. You're kidding yourself if you think the men in power would protect some friendless loser who everyone hates over their own daughters and sisters.
                Also, I'm not even female.

                lol but youre a proud tinder chad carousel whore roasty? i dont see a difference you two are a match made in hell

                Not a roastie, just think it's pathetic for anyone to post edgy, seething messages like this on a Siberian fish fileting forum.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol but youre a proud tinder chad carousel whore roasty? i dont see a difference you two are a match made in hell

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                imagine going to jail because of a woman and thinking you've somehow won
                real tough, allowing yourself to be pushed to the point of destroying your own life to spite her

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >letting a woman like that into your life in the first place

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What’s a hooker like?
    Never tried before, but I’ve wondered if it would be worth my time.

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, that seems like premature advice. No woman will want to interact with a stranger who's got resentment coming out of his pores, so obviously they'll avoid you like the plague, which will only reinforce your prejudice. Your therapist can't just expect random people you encounter to be perfect therapeutic training tools, and it sounds kinda irresponsible/thoughtless of them to send you out into the world with that sort of goal.
    I'd suggest you continue therapy, but discuss this issue with your therapist in case maybe there was a miscommunication or they have more to add. If you're not satisfied, maybe try a different therapist if this one doesn't seem to be giving you anything you can work with. Some are better at handling certain issues than others.

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