>supposedly some big brained stoic
>read his diary
>he spends a not insignificant portion of it seething about various people
what did he mean by this?
>supposedly some big brained stoic. >read his diary
>supposedly some big brained stoic
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telling it to people like it is is not seething, toughen up, bitch
what do you mean? I mean the passages were he is complaining about various people in his diary. Off the top of my head there were a couple about senators, or that one about a blackish character.
the more things change
being sincere about what bothers you of other people is not seething
seething is what you do when you are unable to do something about it
>being sincere about what bothers you of other people is not seething
why not? isn't seething a sincere feeling? who seethes insincerely?
Me, about consumerism.
>A black-hearted character, a womanish character, a stubborn character, bestial, childish, animal, stupid, counterfeit, scurrilous, fraudulent, tyrannical
I don't know, sounds like seething to me.
sounds to me like youre simping for some guy no one knows and who is being criticized by a guy whos still being read centuries after his death
looks like you dont know shit
>uhh no he seethe at people actually
>post passage were he is clearly seething
>proceeding to cope and seethe in response
damn stoicoids btfo yet again, truly like pottery
i believe in cynicism you donkey
I hope you wont give up on your studies of Stoicism, you seem a bit antagonistic for no reason but at least you are aware of some of the Stoic source material though its sadly somewhat obscure nowadays or discounted for being "toxic". Its a shame it would really help a lot of people deal with hardship.
>discounted for being "toxic".
Apparently the only way to deal with your emotions according to some people is to talk about them openly with others even though that's not natural for a lot of people especially men. Stoic thought is lumped in with "toxic" masculinity as a bad way of dealing with things which is obviously utter bullshit and they misunderstand the philosophy.
That's pretending there's not a problem when there is, entirely seperate to taking a controlled rational stance towards a problem.
Sadly a distinction not everybody understands and they are lumped together
being compared to Aurelius is a compliment in my eyes. At a certain point if you are going out of your way to misinterpret all I have to say anon just stop being a pussy bro and control your emotion responses its party of being masculine.
>just choose not to be upset or feel pain bro
wow thank you aurelius, truly a galaxy brained take. I haven't been upset or in pain since.
>toughen up, bitch
bro there is a difference between toughening up and saying if your body is in pain just tell it to fuck off
its been all around the world and served many great men who accomplished their goals in life instead of being someone who makes ironic posts on a history imageboard
i wish we didnt live in a society so people like you could filter themselves out of life instead of being carried through life with everyone elses taxes
>uhh your kid died? just think of it like you broke your favourite mug and move on
>uhh you are grievously pain? just don't be in pain bro
sorry, but this philosophy can't actually be followed by humans and is probably insane
>uhh your kid died?
what use is crying
>uhh you are grievously pain?
what use is moaning and whining like a bitch?, does it alleviate your pain?, does it heal your pain?, does it cure your injury?
stop being such a fucking petty bitch on the internet
kids dead, options are
>cry about it, feel bad, end result: kid still dead
>stfu, move on, end result: kid still dead
He still was a human despite trying to reach the level of gods, therefor, he still fall for human mistakes
Which gods? Even YHWH is an angry and obsessive psycho
wtf why did you read his diary you nosy bastard
Marcus Aurelius is about the furthest away from being a person who would have seethed about anything. I've read his meditations and nothing came across as him "seething". Perhaps you are on about the negative visualisation he does at the start of the day to deal with all the ungrateful rude people he will encounter thats not the same as being actually upset.
Wait, he anticipated scenarios he could be angry about so that when they happened he wasn't angry?
thats the essential aspect of it, he would start the day like that and remind himself of what he is thankful for as well. He wasn't some robot, it was a disciplined state of mind. Its about controlling his reactions and emotion not completely supressing it and pretending they dont exist.
Meditations wasn't exactly intended to be a great work of Stoic philosophy. It was just his personal diary for writing his thoughts. He'd probably be horrified one of the only surviving Stoic documents left is his diary.
so what i'm getting from this is buddha stole stoicism from bactrians