stayed in europe for a year and i noticed they didnt have modern washer and driers like we have. they looked straight out of the 80s. mechanical popout buttons and no digit screen with the time left. and they already dont have AC like we do in america. 99.99% of the cars looked like they were from the 90s and 2000s, even the bmws and mercedes. are europeans just too poor for modern appliances and cars?
for reference something modern like pic related is the standard in america
I wouldn't swap mine for this modern shit even if you gave it to me for free, same with my car
this
those old one will run forever
these new ones get instantly moldy and nasty and fall apart within 2-3 years like clockwork
nah youre both wrong
the new new ones are fucking gamechangers
i have to constantly do sheets and blankets because of dog hair and the hair would get trapped like inside of the inside of the machine in this gross sludge thatd plug the water holes
but i got one of those bluetooth ones and now i can listen to 40k audiobooks while im folding clothes. plus they all smell like linen and winter vagina now instead of foul wet dog hair slime and copper pennies
Agreed. My dad has two old washers in two vacation homes and they don’t have shit on the modern versions. Old versions don’t even test the load to determine spin-speed or needed water volume.
The funny thing is I have old and new stuff. Some of the old stuff is great, like fridges, guns, air conditioners and hand tools . Some is total dog shit, like TVs, cars and water heaters.
In general, plumbing is miles better.
yeah and the american version is junk within 3-5 years or some of the buttons stop working and you can't even use half the features. practically over looks makes most euro shit better
>yeah and the american version is junk within 3-5 years or some of the buttons stop working
maybe you just dont know how to install and maintain your appliances
maybe you haven't read the internal company documents that talks about the planned obsolescence of these new modern trash appliances
shut up nagger. These things are designed to fail. The spider that holds the drum is made of aluminum, the drum is stainless steel, result, spider fails after anodic corrosion. The spider cracks, drum rotates eccentrically, ruins the seal on spindle, seal leaks, bearings rust. Get ready for replacing half the value of the whole machine.
Probably zinc "enriched" aluminum. 😉
This. New appliances are part of the internet of everything. Soon you will not be allowed to wash your clothes because you ran out of green credits and if you wash the shit stains out of your undies you're literally killing the planet. So you smell like shit for the next week until you get enough green credits to run the machine for five minutes.
kek, this.
I always buy appliances from boomers who've had that shit for decades.
Not only does it last longer, but manual controls are dope.
So far, I've repaired my washer twice. Once with epoxy and another time with a tie-wrap.
You can't do that shit with modern garbage.
>put comforter in for 45 minutes on heavy duty
>it stops 8 minutes in because the dryer decided that it was dry enough
>put it back in
>dryer turns off after 2 minutes because it thinks it's dry
>go to bed with wet ass comforter
you're better off with the 80s washer and dryer that just dries the shit without giving you its opinion
bro even the new ones have set-timer mode
are you dumb?
Use the timer mode you absolute brainlet, it overrides the moisture sensor
This, I have a dryer with all the bells and whistles and all I use is timed dry and steam refresh if my clothes have wrinkles. My gf still doesn't get the concept that the sensor is shit and does multiple dryings instead of a timed dry for 90 minutes.
If you want a washing machine that gives its opinion just get a wife.
i thought yankie doodles had top-loading ones because they were too fat to bend over? when did you guys switch over?
I purposely looked for old tumble dryer, they are build like tanks and are easy to fix
the heating elements in them are built before planned obsolesce
the one I have is older than me and I am in my 30s, I had to write down how many minutes to leave an amount of clothes in it as it can roast them
If the element ever breaks I could probably get a heating coil made or make one myself instead of sourcing a £80 wire and some guy to take the thousand parts away to get to it
also its all analogue so don't have to worry about the shitty pcb failing
>the heating elements in them are built before planned obsolesce
>
>the one I have is older than me and I am in my 30s, I had to write down how many minutes to leave an amount of clothes in it as it can roast them
yep and it's this that matters, easy to maintain (preferably by yourself) and long lasting.
Because the modern ones break down in a year, while the ones from the 80s just keep going.
So that noname trash is what top dollar buys. I've got a made in europe one from the 90s. Opened it up the other week to do maintanance, really easy, nothing too complicated. Cleaned every part put some grease on moving parts. Works flawlessly. The ironic part is it wasn't even a high tier machine in the 90s. It is getting closer to 30 years old and it's a gamble everytime I open it, the plastic inside is starting to feel brittle, so there's that.
Ah yes, modern appliences.
Shit that was designed by some milennials tranny who just got out of college. They're all fucking obsessed with globohomo touchscreen button, making this shit impossible to easily clean without activating something.
Don't get me started on the retarded chimes that they make everything play.
>go to wipe off dust
>nursery rhyme tune starts playing
>smartWasher™ is now activated and is doigg some stupid shit you didn't want it to do
Also fridges make annoying noises when you leave the door open. Again, making it difficult and irritating to clean.
I 100% guarantee that every single one of these globohomo appliance bugs (they call them features) are the result of giving milennial trannies jobs designing shit. They can not fucking help themselves.
All your modern appliences are globohomo trash. I saw a dishwasher recently in someone's house that was connected to the internet. LMAO
How long do they last?
I bought a $500 tumbler drier and it broke after 26 months, immediately after warranty.
Are you fucking dumb? Lower class exists everywhere and ac isnt common in eu
some places had "AC" but it was always broken or piss weak
That's literally his point you poor homosexual... Kek. They are stupid too.
yes, Europeans are poor as hell.
why must you bully the less fortunate?
Coming from a leaf
Little India chimes in.
I feel like buying technologically advanced washer and dryer is the stupidest most retarded thing a person can do. There is literally no benefit to it, you barely use the thing once a week at best, this is an item that you should just get one that works and stays working forever.
AC would be nice though, not sure why people here insist to never install it even if they own their apartment/house
Impossible to install as a rentcuck though, bolting the AC unit to the outside of the building needs written approval by the owner sadly, else I would have done that a long time ago.
I have AC because of gf, I didn't have it at my other place and when it's 30'C outside and accustomed to AC you litteraly crumble under the heat. Before I had a tolerance and could go jogging for 5km when it was really hot. AC should be used to regulate the temperature, not turn the place into an igloo.
just eastern europoorean things
as this thread confirms, eastern europooreans have more ACs than western ones
Yes, we are very poor. Don’t come here again. It’s even best to cut off all of your relations with us and especially kick us out of the NATO because we’re just a burden for you.
Bro if you are in NATO at least they'll let your leaders know when they blow up your pipeline not like you won't be their bitch just by making a token gesture not to be their vassal
I want to be in BRICS. Life is better without American interference.
Lower home ownership rates plus landlords being landlords equals old worn out shit being pushed well beyond its lifespan. If you've ever wondered who the market is for used/refurbished appliances, it's landlords.
Lower home ownership? Check the home ownership rates in my country and compare them to your country. Fucking retarded mutt.
Swamp coolers don’t count, jackass.
Swamp coolers? I dont know what that even means. This meme about Europeans being poorer then americans is just retarded. Im a so called europoor and i have more than 80% of americans.
if you dont have a multi zone system with multiple tons each per zone then it doesnt count as AC. you have some iran tier tech
utter waste of money.
I dont know what it is. I pay someone else to install it. It doesnt look like your pic so i guess it doesnt count in your opinion. I still think im richer themn 80% of Americans as an europoor.
nagger, u tolt me u wuz rich. Now I believe u! Gawt dayum, can I borry sum moniez??
Those old ones never break and work better than the "high tech" shit the israelites sell you today that are designed to crap out after 5 years so you have to spend more money.
Wtf are you talking about you fucking retard? No air con? I have 4 air cons in both of my houses. Fucking retarded mutt.
>are europeans just too poor for modern appliances and cars?
I think it's because they don't live in throwaway societies, and managed to hold on to their things before planned obsolescence.
>they don't live in throwaway societies
Functionality over optics is the basis for all generational wealth. Otherwise it’s just wagecucking to pay off bills for things you don’t need to impress people you don’t know.
>generational wealth.
as if the average european has that. you are all poor as shit, you included hans
Yes, I’m very, very poor. Too poor to even spend 2% of gdp on military. Pls kick us out asap.
>when the washing machine starts playing a jingle and talking to you
Because their shit isn’t made to break. And when it does break, it can be repaired unlike all the trash here.
Says the fag with the cheapo top loaders
see
Yeah, now post yours rentoid.
.>yess good goy buy mchshekelburger's latest washer and dryer that breaks in 3 years, just like that, line my pockets goy.
the older stuff will break down more than modern guaranteed. never had one scintilla of an issue with my modern washer and dryer
miele washing machines are reliable af, they aren't cheap, they don't look anything special they just work for like 20 years
/thread
>they just work for like 20 years
More like a lifetime.
Yes, you do like your appliances as untested as your vaccines, that is a way to live.
I've had the same washer for 10 years. You're a child and don't understand
Rest in Peace, U.S.A................
Funny coming from a Brazilian.
Rest in Peace, U.S.A..,,
older made stuff is better buddy. go ahead and find literally anything any appliance made in the U.S. or any euro country and buy the older version and the newer version. the one that's 20-50 years old will still be working when your newer planned to fail in 3-5 years appliance is being sent to the trash heap
>are europeans just too poor for modern appliances and cars?
we just don't give a shit about your israeli lifestyle. Have fun with your mutilated dick, nagger.
Yeah lmao they do drive shitboxes out in the west.
It's because they actually bump into bumpers while parking and they're drunk most of the time.
yeah, it's called being poor, bubba.
I agree that Europe is a shithole, but picrel is what a current year washer looks like if you don't live in a poorfag country. The common European tends to use things until they break. The older the appliance, the higher quality it tends to be.
But no worries, European countries are also adoping consumerism and buy "new and shiny" even if the overall quality is worse, the product can't be properly maintained, and the right to repair is shit on.
In IT, European countries even adopted the "It's a software/AI issue, so we can't do anything about that"-lingo of Americans.
>older the appliance, the higher quality it tends to be
oxymoron
It would’ve been broken by now if it was lower quality. You sound like the perfect goy that has no clue about planned obsolescence. Perfectly trained for the demands of your ~~*market*~~.
No, your take is a consumerist fallacy which can be true in some cases, but not universally so. You also have to factor in ease/possibility of repair and maintenance, failure rate, probability of an incident occurring, etc.
Look in the IT or audio industry for example. The quality of new software and IT infrastructure fucking sucks when compared to back then evenn though there are more standards and compliance guidelines now. Older analogue Audio equipment is also so much more superior and reliable when compared to digital Audio equipment. Your take is precisely why people buy into shady trends like Zero Risk Security, moving IT infrastructure to the cloud, RayCons and other lower quality "Made in China" ware.
>never claimed to be Japanese, but call me a mutt LARPer anyways.
ESL here. Are you happy now?
the older parts wont be available forever much like how spare parts for a phonograph are nearly impossible to find. newer stuff has plenty of spare parts and they are built better because of the decades of past experience
Yes, but the same will be eventually true for newer ware if said ware is even designed to be repaired. A lot of things are especially designed so you can't repair them. Spare parts for old things are still available (even if scarce) after such a long time because there still is a demand for it. In some cases, companies just reduce the production of spare parts because stuff the consumer can easily fix himself is undesirable from the business perspective of modern companies.
And again, I'm not saying that all newer ware is universally inferior to older ware. I'm saying that your claim, which implies that newer ware is universally better quality, is not universally true if you apply all facets of "quality" that might be desirable from solely the consumer perspective.
In that sense, I think unamericanized Europeans and Americans couldn't be more different.
On a side note that might be unrelated to the rest of this post, several state governments in the USA and the EU both apparently find a "right to repair" desirable, so maybe American and European consumers might not have such a different mindset after all when it comes to the quality of older vs newer products.
The brazilian called you a jap. I just told him how it is. No real jap speaks english. Larping is ok but being a diaspora fah is retarded. Go back to your own country and leave the Japanese alone.
mutt moron
this jap knows, the old one need maintenance but lasts forever but the new one people can't even properly assemble because it breaks easily.
also, of course in america the only thing to be proud of is related to laundry, ironic...
a symbol of america econimics, laundry dirty money.
Jap? Fucking retarded mutt larping probably teaching english. No real japanese knows english.
>this jap knows, the old one need maintenance but lasts forever
like you have ever owned an appliance before
nigga, I have a laundry room who is 3m x7m. I can fit here about 10 mericans-americans.
*mexican-americans.
So true. Have disassembled so much stuff last 10 years. The plastic molding in stuff is amazing from an engineering point of view but they are much harder to disassemble. Gotten good at guessing, but occasionally shit pops or snaps. So much stuff that isn't made to repair or maintain.
>i stayed in europe
anhero yourself burger please, the world would be a better place
>stayed in europe
so specific. Imagine not paying 200 dollars plus tip every three years to wash your clothes.
did you also notice that you can walk in places and not get shot ? Strange right
He didn't even think about the narrow walkpaths for not fat people. Probably stumbled the streets like a pig, unbeknownst.
lol while shitting itself and crying that such thing would have never happened in his America hahahahahhaa total mutt destruction
American home appliances are inefficient as fuck. You imbeciles still use 110 volts at home
thats 110 volts of pure freedom and 2nd amendment that we dont get
(Cries in low cholesterol )
Those are direct drive washers, are 100% repairable and the best ones dummy. Wait until your fancy Samsung throws up an error code & refuses to function lol.
Or you said wrongthink on social media so your wash and dry cycles have been deducted by 50%.
Cheap shit designed by trannies who never had to clean anything in their life except for their rancid wound.
I fucking hate globohomo appliences.
>in europe
Europe isn't a country you american retard.
However, like the United States, it is a collection of different cultures and linked transactions.
You even have your own currency.
You can just buy a commercial speed queen washer and dryer they are built for laundromats they last forever.
> hurr durr their technology is old because their buttons still have springs in them
Fuck off. Can’t beat clicky buttons and rotary switches. Touchscreen crap is the goyslop of user input. Tactile feedback is king.
HOT LULZ consumer tip:
heise.de/preisvergleich has an option to exclude all appliances with app control.
>99.99% of the cars looked like they were from the 90s
that's rite, keep your modern goycars for yourself. Fuck off and take your gigafactory berlin back, we dont need gay teslas here that will stop working cuz we wrongthinked
> stop working cuz we wrongthinked
Any post 2010 car will do that.
That said, I'd love to have an E30 BEV conversion.
Imagine the precision drifts.
I dunno. My washing machine looks like the one in your second pic, just white instead of black.
I also have a fancy "wireless" tumble dryer. It sucks balls. A tumble dryer just needs a mechanical timer and a heat setting. That's it. Nothing else. Less shit to go wrong and no needless bollocks that is superfluous to making clothes dry.
I remember my mum talking about when automatic clothes washing machines became big in the 80's. She fucking hated them and used to bang on about how utterly shit they were, and that twin tubs, though bigger, were way better at actually getting your clothes clean.
Maybe Europe is ass backwards. Either way, putting a bunch of computer controlled pointless shit on a device does not make it better, but it does make it easier to work planned obsolescence and makes it harder to repair, same way cars have gone.
Let me guess, you buy Samsung washing machines?
>the cars looked like they were from the 90s and 2000s, even the bmws and mercedes
Still better than the new ones though
How TF did they conclude it would be wise to apply software scam tactics to an emotional status item like a car?
They will ruin their brand, or even the whole industry, if it catches on.
NPCs will buy them because of programming. They'll claim it's green. I know an asshole like this. It was funny watching him drive his electric "car" to the charging station to find all the copper charging cables had been neatly cut off by meth heads that he supports.
Paying for literally everything is the hip and cool thing to do. People who don't are the problem.
>old ones are better
Yes. ngya ftang shub niggurath.
A pressing issue worthy of 3 separate threads, I'm sure
By the way, touch screen appliances are cancer. Mechanical buttons are superior.
This anon gets it. This chad right here understands the importance of designing things with cleaning in mind. I clean mansions for a living and I am constantly dealing with these fucking NPC tier garbage pieces of 'tech'. I posted earlier lad, I saw a dishwasher in someone's house that was connected to the internet. I see idiots with toilets that plug into the wall. Microwaves and ovens that start cooking if you so much as look at the buttons.
The same trannies that buy into this touchscreen cancer tech also somehow found a way to complicate light switches.
I don't think globohomo light switches have made it to the UK yet (I'm from there myself) but some real good goys here have them, and I don't even know how I can describe them. They're that retarded. It's like a clicky button that you have to press about 5 times to get the lights to come on.
I will continue to spew my anti globohomo diatribe to anyone who is willing to listen. I'm just so happy to see someone else who hates the touchscreen shit. I hate it so fucking much.
Yes! Refreshing to hear. When I bought a new fridge there were so many with wifi connections I had to specifically find one without. I refer back to the old saying: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. These companies are just preying on søy cretins that will buy anything so long as it's marketed aggressively.
Fuck mate this is a genuine fear of mine. My wife and I are saving for a house and we've discussed how it's going to be basically impossible to get non globohomo appliences. I vowed that I'd actually make my own appliances before I have a fridge that's connected to Twitter. And I mean it too. I think people will start designing these things and sharing the blueprints to print them yourself. If someone could make a washing machine in the 1900s (without PCBs and 3D printers), then surely a modern day computer savvy chud could do the same.
Do we have those retard light switches in the UK yet lad? It is actually astonishing that someone even conceived a way to complicate a light switch. My mind begins to unravel just from thinking about It.
Hope you're safe from all that shit lad, sounds like you put the time in to avoid it. It'll only get harder and harder.
Dude just don't put them on your wifi. I have a security camera on my front door. WIFI is turned off. It records on a local SD card. You have to be some kind of retard to not figure out you don't need a subscription to everything because they told you so.
That's not the point anon. I know for instance you can host your own ring doorbell so it doesn't send anything away. The point is the lack of choice.
I do not want a fridge with a screen on it. I simply refuse. It's not that I think I'll be 'forced' to use these things, because I won't be forced to do anything. It just now requires extra diligence and work just to have functional appliances in your home.
The point is this. What was wrong with a light switch the way it was? Why do washing machines even possess the ability to connect to a network? Why on earth is any of this necessary?
I don't want anything with a touch screen.
I don't want anything connecting to the internet.
I don't want anything that plays a retarded chime.
I want a machine that washes my clothes and that I can clean easily. I will have things the way I want them but it might even require me making and building my own stuff, that is how much I refuse to buy globohomo shit.
It's my right as a consumer to decide what I want and it's not for sale.
You can still buy all that analog stuff. You are misrepresenting it like digital is your only choice. Buy an old house with analog stuff. You are giving up before you even tried.
>Do we have those retard light switches in the UK yet lad?
Yeah we do, internet connection and all. They've been around for a while.
They're trying to force you to get smart energy meters as well.
I have a new wash machinę but I prefer to dry my clothes in open air.
Begone Mammon's bitch!
They don't have to replace them every 4-5 years.
>failed american immigrants
>he doesn't know about the post-2008 israelite on purpose added self-sabotage mechanisms on all electronics and ppliances manufactured post-2008.
>are europeans just too poor for modern appliances and cars?
yes, obviously
in countries like france having money makes people jealous and the vast majority of people make between 10 and 13 $/hr
same here to some extent like people will glance at you for buying pricier "eco-milk" or inflation adjusted products that are more expensive now than being a non-voluntary cheapskate
yep, unless you're brown of course then they automatically see you positively, as some kind of success story
Not here though. In America you guys are on some weird fucking acid trip if the majority of your population has been fucking psychologically conditioned into cheering non-whites getting all the fruits of whitey while not doing any worthwhile work.
you're really gonna pretend like sweden doesn't put minorities on a pedestal when you literally revamped rape statistics to avoid stigma against them? when they're running around with grenades in impunity?
Our politicians did, not our people. Even today the microaggressions are are more than apparent in Swedish society towards brownskins. Every single Swede knows that any polite or nice interaction between brownies are just forced, akward at best with room for passive microaggressions. Brownies are trying to seek validation from the higher up Swede while the Swede gently wants to indirectly end the conversation calmly. Only a judaized Stockholmer would be passive enough to see everything as a strive towards multicultural utopianism. In America it's more harmonic yet forced in a completely different and unrelated way that is just as random like schizos when they have to conspiracymaxx to Alex Jones flat earth level arguments.
he said in a european language on a hungarian gypsy langos frying forum via a european hypertext protocol
I used to have an old Whirlpool washing machine from 1994. My fucking god, that mf was strong. Literally just repaired like once in 13 years and it was a minor reparation as well. Those heavy duty 1980s and 1990s Whirlpool and Electrolux washing machines were absolute unit compared to the shitty slop-machines manufactured today.
OP probably drives around in a 2019 chevy that's about to shit its engine or transmission all over the nearest highway
The biggest gore American automakers did was to abandon the Crown Vic. Truly an underrated marvel despite its huge fuel sharding engine.
I work at a thrift store.
Pro-tip hit up these places and try to look for white goods (fridges, washing machines, microwaves etc) from the 80s.
They're basically bullet proof. All modern shit is designed to die within 5 or 10 years so you have to buy a new one all the time
You need massive washing machines to fit your enormously grotesque lard arsed garments in.
keek
the chad mechanical popout button vs the digit screen incel
since i live in a van down by the river, there is no shortage of dryers - or what i call trees.
maybe you stayed in a poor/midclass area where people are frugal, or took care of their appliances. richfag euros have the newest tech. stupid thread, what are you sliding?
My washing machine has delicate, normal, and casual settings. What the fuck does casual do?
>What the fuck does casual do?
sits around and tries to look cool
The other dials are cool. Load size is straightforward. Water temperature is fine too. But this one has a hand wash option, which is clearly a lie. And then goes on to suggest that we take a casual attitude towards getting the laundry clean
casual like a temp worker who shows up at the office; aloof and keeps out of the fray
>and they already dont have AC like we do in america
fake, that's a forced meme by mutts with an inferiority complex, i have AC and most people i know do too
that's normal, america just gets the best of everything. our healthcare has significantly better outcomes than europe, especially when controlling for comorbidities but also just outright.
reserve currency status has its benefits
>that's normal, america just gets the best of everything. our healthcare has significantly better outcomes than europe, especially when controlling for comorbidities but also just outright.
factually untrue you retarded cretin.
We had this same thread with the same pic a week ago, sage
I have modern washer and drier, AC and a 5 year old car. I'm poor
They put their washing machines in the kitchen over there
Hahaha what a bunch of losers
do they really? if they are poor and have to use powdered detergent it can get into their food or on the surfaces nearby
europe is a poverty shithole. its nothing but a museum for tourists of aspiring world powers
Yes, yes, we are all really, really poor. Don't ever come to Europe, especially if you are black.
the blacker you are, the poorer we are
EU regulates all kinds of obscure bullshit. Minor appliances and cheese have to be made in the right country or else they throw a fit.
i mean, better than having plastic cheese and oreo milkshakes with 300 grams of sugar and corn syrup
why fix it when it aint broke
>woaaaaa look at us we re so rich and advanced ! we have the last 65 000 € bmw and AC and a screen on the washing machine ! we have a 750 000 € loan too!
LMAO FUCKING MUTTS