If I wanted to start with the Greeks, do I have to read picrel first or can I jump straight into Plato without losing much?
Start with the Greeks
If I wanted to start with the Greeks, do I have to read picrel first or can I jump straight into Plato without losing much?
According to Nietzsche you should stop at Heraclitus
what is the point of being this guy? uh... my thing will be... more or less applicability
Not absolutely necessary imho. Many of them feature in the Platonic dialogues anyway.
You can jump straight into Plato if you so desire, a number of his dialogs feature other notable Greek philisophers. The pre-socratics are well worth the read imo.
>The pre-socratics are well worth the read imo
There are zero (0) pre-socratic texts extant, so best of luck with this.
OP, you can and should jump into The Republic, it is for many reasons the ideal entre into philosophy, Greek or otherwise.
Retard
There are extensive fragments from multiple archaic philosophers. Sometimes, entire texts. Even some of the traditional "presocratics" (as opposed to sophists) are near preserved, such as Melissus whom some argue only wrote a short pamphlet that has been almost entirely preserved, and we have long quotations of empedocles and parmenides. Not to mention the enormous volume of subsequent commentaries.
do you have to? no. Should you? I say so
You could or you could read something that will help you live a long, happy and healthy life: read only Aristotle and ignore everything else.
If you want to start with the greeks, then start with the OG greek philosophers. IF you have some particular need to discuss Plato or some other latter-day derivative thinker, then sure, go read him. But otherwise you need to be focusing on the archaic big boys, not some 4th century city boys who play with puppets.
I sincerely believe the average IQ of the board would rise by 15 if we banned the Nietzschefags.
Start reading the OP book and you'll decide pretty quickly if you want to read a bunch of retards. Enjoy such philosophical musings as
>the faster runner will never catch the slower runner because by the time the faster runner reaches the slower runner's last location, the slower runner has already moved to the next location
The presocratics were more based right? I know heideggar or however the fuck you spell it thought all after them was ballocks
The sophists were based everyone else sucked, yes even Nietzsche.
Ugh, seriously? You can't just skip the basics and jump into Plato. Like, hello, that's not how it works. Start with the early philosophers, duh.
Plato & Aristotle is all you need.
The absolute midwittery of LULZ...
You don’t need any of the presocratics.
Assuming you're just going to "start" and then continue on and on and on up until modern or contemporary philosophy, then it's such a big undertaking that you may as well read pic related. It's just one more book on top of the litany you're already planning to read
Is there some book that goves an overview of the greek philosophers, and maybe also playwrights and historians?
She starting on me until I greek