Souls can not exist

Inspired by all these encounters

Daily reminder that souls are literally impossible a soul is a self disproving proposition.

>Pictures don't have souls. People do.
Wait for it ....
>Well..some people do anyway. You don't, obviously.
And the fagot disproved himself !

It is a undeniable basic fact that souls can not exist.
Literally every time a IRL fag talks about souls he literally proves that souls can not exist and disproves his own argument.

No souls are literally impossible and can not exist. By the religion fags own admission.

Unless the religion fag wants to make the word "soul" a synonym for mental retardation and/or low IQ and/or schizophrenia.

>Are you using soul as just a fancy name for consciousness
This is literally impossible (by the religion fags own standards).

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all these dead links
    Cool story, bro.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cool story, bro.
      My bad yet I quoted the relevant post
      >Pictures don't have souls. People do.
      Wait for it ....
      >Well..some people do anyway. You don't, obviously.
      And the fagot disproved himself !

      It is like this every time whenever someone speaks that souls do exist he can not help himself and must prove that souls are impossible.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >act annoying
        >someone says you have no soul as an insult
        >BRO THIS PROVES THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN SOULS
        That's like if I said, "Some people are intelligent, but clearly you're not," and your takeaway from that was that I believe intelligence is impossible. Get over yourself, that guy was just insulting you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's like if I said, "Some people are intelligent, but clearly you're not,
          What are souls exactly then ?

          >that guy was just insulting you.
          Sure only he literally disproved his own position.

          If he is saying I'm a pzombie and I'm literally more intelligent then him as measured by IQ then souls are impossible.

          The existence of pzombies by default debunks souls.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it seems like you literally are a (p?)zombie

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >(p?)zombie
              Huh do you not know this ?
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
              https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/

              >it seems like you literally are a (p?)zombie
              By you saying this you disproved your own position.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If he is saying I'm a pzombie and I'm literally more intelligent then him as measured by IQ then souls are impossible.
            Nope, the presence of a soul has nothing to do with intelligence.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Nope, the presence of a soul has nothing to do with intelligence.
              Why should anyone want a soul then ?

              >Nope, the presence of a soul has nothing to do with intelligence.
              SELF CONTRADICTION.

              Before

              >act annoying
              >someone says you have no soul as an insult
              >BRO THIS PROVES THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN SOULS
              That's like if I said, "Some people are intelligent, but clearly you're not," and your takeaway from that was that I believe intelligence is impossible. Get over yourself, that guy was just insulting you.

              > that guy was just insulting you.
              >"Some people are intelligent, but clearly you're not,"

              Your position is self contredictorry nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chill with the autism, kid. I wasn't saying souls = intelligence, I was bringing up an unrelated example to illustrate a point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Chill with the autism, kid.
                Cool ad hominem retard.

                > I was bringing up an unrelated example to illustrate a point.
                And your "unrelated example to illustrate a point" literally debunked you. So what now ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That isn't ad hominem. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy in that an argument relies on an insult of some kind. Someone calling you autistic alone isn't an argument nor is it related to their actual argument. If I were to say "Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen molecules, you're retarded." That isn't ad hominem, that's just me insulting you after stating a fact.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Someone calling you autistic
                Yet you rest your entire argument or a good portion of it on it.

                >Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen molecules, you're retarded." That isn't ad hominem, that's just me insulting you after stating a fact.
                Lets see what impossible self disproving garbage you wrote OK ?

                >Chill with the autism, kid. I wasn't saying souls = intelligence, I was bringing up an unrelated example to illustrate a point.
                Where is the argument ?

                >Chill with the autism, kid.
                Insult.
                > I wasn't saying souls = intelligence,
                factually wrong

                > I was bringing up an unrelated example to illustrate a point.
                Literally nonsense to try to spin doctor your own fuck up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The first two responses are me, everything below that is someone else. Again, by point still stands. You really need to learn formal logical fallacies first before trying to actually argue, otherwise you're going to look like a dipshit to schizos and actual skeptics alike.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The first two responses are me, everything below that is someone else.
                Get a trip code !

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And your "unrelated example to illustrate a point" literally debunked you. So what now ?
                Nope, it didn't. You made a connection that wasn't there. I could have used anything for that illustration. Instead of "intelligence" I could have said "brain" or "heart" or fucking "liver" for all it matters. The point is that whoever told you that you have no soul was just insulting you, they probably don't even think you have no soul, they just insulted you by implying you are soulless and inhuman.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The point is that whoever told you that you have no soul was just insulting you, they probably don't even think you have no soul, they just insulted you by implying you are soulless and inhuman.
                Cool and like I explained to you this insult debunks their own position.

                See the example
                >You are retarded.
                >I'm sure that you are retarded more then I'm sure of the fact that NO GOD can ever exist !
                >And NO GOD ever existing is a fundamental fact of reality !
                What kind of retard makes insults that assume his own position is wrong ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cool and like I explained to you this insult debunks their own position.
                Calling one person retarded/brainless/soulless/inhuman/subhuman does not mean that every human on the planet must also be those things.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You still do not get the problem.

                If one human can function without a soul and be even more intelligent then the ones with souls ...
                This disproves the concept of a soul in like hard.

                Since the assertion "every human has a soul" is now invalid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Every human has a soul" and "souls exist" are two separate arguments.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"Every human has a soul" and "souls exist" are two separate arguments.
                No you are simply to limited in intelligence to understand that if you admit humans without souls exist then souls get debunked super fast.

                Do I need to walk you these 2 or 3 steps or can you figure it out on your own ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism pls read this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What did you mean by this ?

                >syllogism
                Whatever set graphing is a superior way of doing the same.

                Socrates is of the set human.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, set graphing is an entirely separate thing that isn't relevant to formal logic used in debate. Unless you're super autistic and actually try using set theory in debates, which you seem to be.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"Every human has a soul" and "souls exist" are two separate arguments.

                https://i.imgur.com/jTVuO0W.jpg

                >"Every human has a soul" and "souls exist" are two separate arguments.
                No you are simply to limited in intelligence to understand that if you admit humans without souls exist then souls get debunked super fast.

                Do I need to walk you these 2 or 3 steps or can you figure it out on your own ?

                OK lets do this.

                You agree to "Not every human has a soul" and this debunks souls existing.

                >b-b--b-b
                Cool yourself I walk you for the 80 IQ people like you.

                If I have no soul yet function ... what does a soul even do ?
                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                How do you detect the presence of a soul or the lack of one ?

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Like you admitted since there is no way to detect the presence of a soul or not tell everyone how you know that you yourself have a soul ?

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Like I was saying pzombies debunk souls existing.

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Any further questions ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are using imprecise language.

                Who don't you say what you think "soul" is, and give us an example.

                Because right now, what you seem to be describing are ghosts, not souls.

                A human body that's alive carries one sort of soul in its heart, one in its mind, and one embodied in the physical structure of the body. And there are many more! All of these are similar because they are composed of different rarefactions of consciousness but they are not identical (nondualists, your objections are noted.)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you saying "Not every human has a soul, therefore souls cannot exist"? That's not a logical statement. Not every human has blonde hair, so does blonde hair not exist? Even in your own original example the anon who insulted you said "SOME people" have souls.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                https://i.imgur.com/U0a06pc.png

                >"Every human has a soul" and "souls exist" are two separate arguments.
                [...]
                OK lets do this.

                You agree to "Not every human has a soul" and this debunks souls existing.

                >b-b--b-b
                Cool yourself I walk you for the 80 IQ people like you.

                If I have no soul yet function ... what does a soul even do ?
                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                How do you detect the presence of a soul or the lack of one ?

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Like you admitted since there is no way to detect the presence of a soul or not tell everyone how you know that you yourself have a soul ?

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Like I was saying pzombies debunk souls existing.

                > [schizo self contradictions and shit]

                Any further questions ?

                > That's not a logical statement
                It is ! Your are to limited in intelligence to realize why.

                >Souls are like hair color
                I repeat myself:
                How do you detect the presence of a soul or the lack of one ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This entire discussion, aside from a few posters, has been entirely hypothetical regarding the existence of souls. Arguments are like frameworks and can have the contents swapped out with them regardless of how sensical they may sound on the surface. If this discussion were about the existence of auras and if all people have auras or not, the same logic would apply here, just the content would be different.

                That other anon making an example of how your argument is flawed by swapping the details isn't trying to prove the existence of souls or argue with you on their existence, including me. Just because he used blond hair (a falsifiable thing) in his example doesn't suddenly mean you can just attack the soundness of the argument via unfalsifiability. You need to learn logical fallacies and maybe some syllogicistic argument patterns first before you start trying to debate things like this.

                You've repeatedly misinterpereted several fallacies throughout this whole fucking thread, including what contradiction is as well as how ad hominem works. Pls, for your own sake go to some reading.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Pls
                Do not insult me I'm above the superstition that is logic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ITT: OP doesn't know his Ps and Qs.

                Prime example:

                >Pls
                Do not insult me I'm above the superstition that is logic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How do you detect the presence of a soul or the lack of one ?
                You can't because souls are supernatural. We can only see the influence of souls, but that can be imitated. Kind of like how the sun can make things hot, but something being hot doesn't guarantee it's been out in the sun because other things can heat things as well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lets translate this
          Religion fag says
          >Every human has Unki-Klunkie
          >However you do not have Unki-Klunkie
          >Smug.jpg

          It is literally a self disproving position.

          >While yes I make insults that have no impact and disprove my own cosmology !

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, he just proved you are no human, what is so hard understanding that ?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >yeah, he just proved you are no human
              ???
              >what is so hard understanding that ?
              The fact that he is literally wrong ?

              > you are no human
              And why should anyone want to be human ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OP, I mean this sincerely, you are half of a half as intelligent as you think you are.
        I'm not even disagreeing with you regarding souls, it's just you have no argument, and what you have written is embarrassing.
        Real question, are you israeli ?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Real question, are you israeli ?
          NO.

          >it's just you have no argument, and what you have written is embarrassing.
          See

          https://i.imgur.com/9WUFjXS.jpg

          >What gives?
          Because you are fucked in the head when you non stop try to smuggle into your words statements that disprove your own position

          It is literally on the same level as a christian saying
          >You are retarded.
          >I'm sure that you are retarded more then I'm sure of the fact that NO GOD can ever exist !
          >And NO GOD ever existing is a fundamental fact of reality !

          Like do you think about your self contradictory nonsense ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know I have a soul.
        Every conscious being has a soul.

        >What happens when AI becomes conscious?
        AI in it's current form are advanced automatons. Soulless unconscious unfeeling machines that merely respond to stimuli, unable to form original thought or even it's own goals.
        The real question is, will AI ever be able to appear conscious? Conscious beings have preferences, goals, likes and dislikes, opinions, etc. If you ask even the most advanced AI right now to prove that it's conscious, it will give many reasons as to why it is conscious; but in the same token if you ask it to prove that it is NOT conscious, it will give you many reasons as to why that is as well. It has no opinion. It merely generates the output that it thinks best matches the input.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I know I have a soul.
          Assertions of an idiot. Try to prove that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Every conscious being has a soul.
            Like explained the word "conscious " is 300% meaningless and impossible.

            Are you implying that the world is completely mechanical and material?
            Are you really implying that you are an advanced automaton?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Are you really implying that you are an advanced automaton?
              Everyone is and this is fact.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Truth is self-evident.

            The existence of qualia proves consciousness.
            Sight doesn't exist.
            Touch doesn't exist.
            Taste doesn't exist.
            Smell doesn't exist.
            Hearing doesn't exist.

            What you experience does not exist within the material plane.
            This alone proves that there is some "other" substrate which cannot be measured, and this substrate is consciousness.

            "I think, therefore I am"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>The existence of qualia
              Qualia is another nonsense word that can not exist.

              Really now all this fagging is a bunch of retard making up impossible nonsense words and presenting this cancer to the world.

              >Sight doesn't exist.
              Sight exist.
              >Touch doesn't exist.
              Touch exist.
              >Taste doesn't exist.
              Taste exist.
              >Smell doesn't exist.
              Smell exist.
              >Hearing doesn't exist.
              Hearing exist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your senses as they are experienced are not object nor reality. They are a subjective interpretation of reality built by your consciousness.

                Tell me, when you feel any of these 5 senses, where in reality does the experience, the feeling, exist?

                If we were truly automatons, we would have no experience. There would be no "you".

                Experience requires an observer. That observer is consciousness.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >consciousness
                Nonsense word, statement literally meaningless.
                > That observer is consciousness.
                Pictured schizophrenia.

                >If we were truly automatons, we would have no experience. There would be no "you".
                This crap can not be parsed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't rebuttal against your argument, so I'm just going to say you have schizophrenia and that everything you said is meaningless.
                Checkmate. Goodbye.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool cope idiot however you are literally posting schizo shit.. Me pointing this out is the debunking of your shit.

                >Checkmate. Goodbye.
                Hello schizo. I told you to PROVE consciousness is a valid concept. you refuse because this is impossible.

                At this point you are debunked.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Every conscious being has a soul.
          Like explained the word "conscious " is 300% meaningless and impossible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Conscious beings have preferences, goals, likes and dislikes, opinions, etc.
          And you have proven why the word "conscious " is 300% meaningless and impossible.

          >Conscious beings have preferences, goals, likes and dislikes, opinions, etc.
          Yet this is exactly what modern AI is. They literally do have goals, likes and dislikes etc.

          WTF do you think is happening here ?

          Like you can see reality combined with your assertions proves that the word "conscious " is 300% meaningless and impossible.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In that video you are watching a lot of math happen. The math doesn't have goals, preferences, likes or dislikes. This is true for all "AI".

            It merely does what it's instructed to do. The reward system had to be programmed for it - conscious beings program their own goals.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The reward system had to be programmed for it
              Not really. It evolved its preferences based on initial parameters.

              You know food = good, death/wall = bad

              Like we evolved.

              >conscious beings program their own goals.
              Nope, or prove how everyone chose to want to eat and have pain.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You are coping, you literally presented nonsense and after reality debunked you you simply try even bigger nonsense.

              Face it it is over for your shit.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what in the fuck are you even talking about? You aren't really making any sense and it sounds like you're having a one sided conversation with a voice in your head.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >smashes the radio
    >can't find the signal
    >the signal doesn't exist lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is this schizo crap ?
      >smashes the radio
      More like
      >Fagot insist we are drones not robots
      >Smash antenna
      >We still function
      >His position is disproved
      >Schizo posting of the fagot intensifies.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here OP; these posts without a doubt prove souls do in fact exist

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you 15, autistic or both? I can argue against the existence of souls too, but holy fuck is your argument the most retarded thing I've ever seen.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but holy fuck is your argument the most retarded thing I've ever seen.
      Explain why.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's taking what is clearly meant to be an insult, taking it way too literally and using that as the basis for your argument. Other anons have already pointed this out to you. Rather than simply relying on the fact that they're unfalsifiable you latch onto the first thing that you can autistically pretzel into a shitty counterargument that nobody in their right mind would make except for you. By your logic exceptions automatically apply to the whole, which is just blatantly false.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's taking what is clearly meant to be an insult,
          This makes everything worse.

          imagine a christian insulting me this way
          >You are so stupid that I know this more then I know that jesus is not god
          >And the fact that jesus is not a god is beyond questioning !

          Like think about the impossible garbage your mouth produces.

          >autistically pretzel into a shitty counterargument that nobody in their right mind would make except for you
          More like the retards literally can not stop themselves from disproving their own position.

          I suspect it is psychological they know they are wrong and subconsciously do everything to tell everyone that they are wrong.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >completely ignores the infinitely better argument from unfalsifiability, doesn't even address it in his response
            What gives? You keep latching onto parts of people's arguments that don't matter and that's what everyone, save for a few here, is trying to point out to you.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What gives?
              Because you are fucked in the head when you non stop try to smuggle into your words statements that disprove your own position

              It is literally on the same level as a christian saying
              >You are retarded.
              >I'm sure that you are retarded more then I'm sure of the fact that NO GOD can ever exist !
              >And NO GOD ever existing is a fundamental fact of reality !

              Like do you think about your self contradictory nonsense ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're still missing the point. People are calling you stupid for making bad arguments. If you make a bad argument, why shouldn't someone call you stupid? Insulting someone after making a valid and sound argument doesn't suddenly make the argument invalid or unsound unless the argument is literally premised on the insult. Can you actually explain why what I'm saying is "self contradictory"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can you stop self contradicting ?

                >having no soul = you are stupid
                >Nooo REEE souls and intelligence are different things !

                Stop self contradicting !

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consciousness exists. Soul is just another word for consciousness. You cannot prove consciousness exists, however it is implicit it does. Cogito ergo sum and all that.

    The Higgs field which is immaterial, gives mass to subatomic/atomic particles, meaning the immaterial interacts with the material. Gravity is also immaterial.

    The soul/consciousness is just quantum physics. The immaterial spawns the material. They are called platonic forms. This is simply quantum physics. Cope and seethe homosexual. The soul is real.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Consciousness exists
      Nope.
      >Consciousness
      Nonsense word religion fags made up.

      >Soul is just another word for consciousness
      And since consciousness is a nonsense word so is a soul.

      >You cannot prove consciousness exists
      This proves that consciousness CAN NOT exist, I mean wow ! You are making the argument for me !

      >Gravity is also immaterial.
      >Magnets are literally magic and gods
      LOL.

      > They are called platonic forms.
      platonic forms are impossible nonsense plato made up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can’t deny consciousness, it is self evident. Do you really think you are not conscious? Even if you aren’t, most of us are. Self reflection would not be possible without consciousness. These are philosophical pillars thousands of years old, just because you say they don’t exist doesn’t mean they don’t lol. You have zero authority and history proves you immutably incorrect.

        So you think love and hate are also not real? You’re denying the human experience entirely.

        Enjoy your cope robot.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You can’t deny consciousness
          You can not deny the fact that consciousness can not exist.
          >it is self evident.
          It literally is not.

          > Do you really think you are not conscious?
          YES.
          Translation
          Do you really think you are not ump-ump-lum-lum ?

          It is literally a nonsense word.

          >Even if you aren’t, most of us are
          How do you measure this ? How do you test this ? How dose someone who is not conscious function ?

          >So you think love and hate are also not real?
          HUH ?

          Hate is real however love is impossible.

          >robot
          Thanks.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hate is real love is impossible.

            You contradict your entire argument here. One immaterial thing cannot be real yet another is. You are logically inconsistent and cherry picking what you want. Thanks for disproving your entire argument for me lol.

            Consciousness is real, just as real as hate is. Consciousness is the vessel that experiences the emotions. It is undeniably real hahahahahah, even according to yourself.

            Enjoy your time, the clock goes tick tock you evil fuck.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm going to throw in an "Actually..." here.

              If OP is describing reality as he perceives correctly, then it makes sense he cannot experience self-conscious awareness either, for the same reason a man at the bottom of a deep well with a flashlight is not lying when he says they're is no light except what he carries with him. To him, this is true, and self-evidently so.

              Hate is a tool that divides consciousness. "Jacob have I loved, but Esau i have hated."

              Take a chance on loving unselfishly OP. Suddenly the room will fill with lights.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I completely agree. I just don’t believe he actually thinks consciousness doesn’t exist. I think it’s far more sinister than that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are correct.
      Souls are prior to and necessary for physical material reality to exist.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where's my "athiesmfag in /x/" image

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen enough.

    Obviously a slide thread.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BRUUUH YOU FUCKING naggerS REALLY FEED THIS RETARTED BAIT? WHAT THE FUCK DOES JANNIES DO

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes yes, well done rationalist, well done, HOWEVER. These games pure SOVL. Checkmate, atheists.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sage this thread Anons.
    Demoralization, retardation.

    We know these truths to be self evident.

    "I think, therefore I am".

    Captcha: XDDMT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We know these truths to be self evident.
      The cope of the retard.

      >Ree the earth is flat because we know these truths to be self evident.

      >Sage this thread Anons.
      >REEE facts make me angry ! Destroy them

      /x/ everyone.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You cannot "prove" that which cannot be measured.
        That's how we know the earth is round. You can measure it.
        The best proof for consciousness is the fact that you experience at all. In a materialistic universe, there is no place qualia.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia

        Perception doesn't exist materialistically - it exists within the "other", that which we cannot measure.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Perception doesn't exist materialistically - it exists within the "other", that which we cannot measure.
          Schizophrenia.
          >qualia
          Prove it is real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
          LOL it is wikipedia.
          >While some philosophers of mind like Daniel Dennett argue that qualia do not exist
          >qualia do not exist
          >qualia do not exist
          >qualia do not exist

          What part of this is confusing you ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you experience?
            Do you know what an apple taste like?
            That is qualia.

            >everything is measurable.
            So like today in reality.

            Measure your subjective experience of reality and get back to me.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do you experience?
              More schizo shit.

              >That is qualia.
              No it is not. Read books that explain to you why qualia can not exist.

              >Do you know what an apple taste like?
              Yes and this debunks qualia.

              >Measure your subjective experience of reality and get back to me.
              Literally schizo post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I didn't want to say yes to the rhetorical question.
                >I do know about the qualia that you referenced, therefore qualia does not exist.
                (In the same way you say people disprove their own arguments about the soul, you disproved your own argument about qualia)
                >I refuse to admit that my subjective experience is immeasurable.
                Checkmate again.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Checkmate again.
                Cool story retarded schizo, everyone else is laughing at you humiliating yourself publicly.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do you know what an apple taste like?
              Let me explain to you why qualia can not exist.
              It is literally an impossible thing.

              >Do you know what an apple taste like?
              Lets see meanwhile in reality.

              the snake AI eats apples.
              It is attracted to these apples.
              It literally has a taste for these apples.

              Does it have qualia ?
              You say no and therefore we know that qualia is literally impossible self contradictory nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's impossible because... It just is! OKAY?!
                >I can't really argue so I'm just going to call you a Schizo and say that everything you're talking about is meaningless because I don't understand it and I refuse to compromise my position on this subject!
                >Look at these programs! I'm going to personify them and say they have attractions and tastes just like a person does. This totally disproves your argument and shows that I myself am not a schizo!

                KEK

                This will be my final post here, and I will stoop down to your level of argument because I think you can understand this one:
                lmao midwit.
                I bet your IQ is right near the center of the bell curve.
                Only retards and geniuses will understand my posts.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>It's impossible because... I
                You are literally quoting a post that literally debunked it for you. Next time try to acknowledge other peoples arguments you /x/ fag.

                >It just is! OKAY?!
                Strawman.

                >I can't really argue so I'm just going to call you a Schizo
                YES. You schizo. What else is there to say ? You clearly have schizophrenia or are some super /x/ retard.

                You can not argue with any opposing view and ignore my arguments while literally posing meaningless word constructs.

                >because I don't understand it and I refuse to compromise my position on this subject!
                YES.

                There are 2 theories here
                1) I'm simply an idiot who can not understand your genius
                2) You are a schizo or are having a stroke while writing this crap

                Guess what theory most people will take.

                >Look at these programs! I'm going to personify them and say they have attractions and tastes just like a person does.
                Because they literally have them ?
                >person
                Hold the phone who was talking about a person ? Do animals not have qualia ?
                ANSWER THIS !

                >Look at these programs! I'm going to personify them and say they have attractions and tastes just like a person does.
                Here are the facts they literally have them since they needed to evolve in the processes of evolution.

                And I bet you are not some ultra solipsistic IRL
                >The fact that others scream when I stab them does not mean they really feel that ! They are pzombies !

                >Only retards and geniuses will understand my posts.
                No the midwqit meme is only something retards think in reality everyone with a IQ above you despises you, you retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ITT: OPs argumentative tactics are fallacious and rely primarily upon using strawman's and ad hominems.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and ad hominems.
                Debunked.

                >and ad hominems.
                Contradicts the other anons definition.

                >are fallacious
                Prove that.

                Here are the facts only drooling retards believe in this crap since you need to have some form of downs syndrome to not realize how impossible all of this is.

                >Ha look me ignoring what you posted
                >I will simply make more insults and ignore all the debunking and facts you posted
                >I think I'm smart
                And you think you are not a fagot retard how exactly ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I quote myself.

                >Hold the phone who was talking about a person ? Do animals not have qualia ?
                >ANSWER THIS !

                A question was asked a normal person would answer this however not you.

                Conclusion you are a fagot and/or retard and/or schizo.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a soulless material universe, everything is measurable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >everything is measurable.
      So like today in reality.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try this

      https://i.imgur.com/JZdLdAv.png

      >Do you know what an apple taste like?
      Let me explain to you why qualia can not exist.
      It is literally an impossible thing.

      >Do you know what an apple taste like?
      Lets see meanwhile in reality.

      the snake AI eats apples.
      It is attracted to these apples.
      It literally has a taste for these apples.

      Does it have qualia ?
      You say no and therefore we know that qualia is literally impossible self contradictory nonsense.

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